User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive102

User:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
my previous account Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, has ben blocked for sockpuppetry of another account, lucyintheskywithdada, i am not lucyintheskywithdada, please check user and unblock.Aseanea peis (talk) 05:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

i was even denied access to my own talk page after the block and no unblock requests came from me.Aseanea peis (talk) 05:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
my previous account Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, has ben blocked for sockpuppetry of another account, lucyintheskywithdada, i am not lucyintheskywithdada, please check user and unblock.Aseanea peis (talk) 05:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

i was even denied access to my own talk page after the block and no unblock requests came from me.Aseanea peis (talk) 05:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal
We've got one to merge this into this in the fashion of this (when I finish it...). I've heard a cut/paste is frowned on, so I wondered a) if that's true & b) what the form is to avoid it. We've still got possible precincts not heard from, including Mid-Atlantic gap's creator, so there's no tearing hurry, but your attention & assistance would be appreciated. TREKphiler  hit me ♠  17:50, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about this topic...out of interest is there any particular reason why you thought I could make a useful contribution?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

173rd ABCT (again)
Hello. I've once again been putting a lot of effort into the 173rd Airborne Brigade page, including plenty of book sources. Since you've done some work on it before, I was wondering if you'd mind skimming it over to see if I missed anything...It's a whole lot more comprehensive than before but I don't want to head into another FAC without making it as spotless as possible. Thanks! - Ed! (talk) (Hall of Fame)  21:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, coming.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

the lucky guy
Hi, so far I am the only candidate that you have opposed, and User:Carcharoth is the only candidate that you have supported. Any chance you could explain why I am the lucky guy. If possible I would like the opportunity to answer any concerns that you have. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, you're not the only "lucky guy", see Coren and Sam Korn. As for Carcharoth, he's not the only unlucky guy then either. See Casliber, Risker, Wizardman and Roger Davies. I voted for some of them under my YAM account so you probably haven't noticed that sometimes I do the housekeeping with that account.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, sneaky yet productive. :-)
 * Is your concern that I dont do enough content? My signal:noise content:other ratio is about 45% - I dont do much featured content work on en.wp, but you can read about my other love, and I am a New page creator. -- John Vandenberg (chat) 02:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, just the general content.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject_Military_history/Logistics
You are listed there, but no language is specified... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 00:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bnguyen
I agree with you. He is spinning more tales as his lies are unraveled (see his talk page). Jappalang (talk) 01:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Need a semi-uninvolved admin for a block? See AN/I. -MBK004 02:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer. I won't be blocking him because I also revert a lot of his edits for simply being corny, all the time. He always makes all these articles - first Vietnamese American to graduate from law school, first VA killed in Iraq, first VA to become and army officer etc. and a whole pile of VA guys who became councillors in a small US town (100k people). And then accused me of being anti-Vietnamese. Apart from that sticking "he is a devout anti-communist" almost ad nauseum all over the place.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am taking a break from looking through the images. Is there a way to simply delete them all?  I would think that the collatoral damage would be minimal, compared to the strain the user imposes on others to check through his falsehood.  If any can be used for "fair-use", I am pretty certain interested editors can find them again via the web.  On another note, why are there no templates to declare the information given (author, source, or date) are false?  I have to go around, trying to fit db-i9 or npd to the mess.  Jappalang (talk) 03:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, only commons has a delete all mode. I don;t think you should worry about tagging it. Some admins are onto it and they'll be deleted without someone having to put an application form on it, like you. It would be good if you voted for the ban though.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Due to personal principles, I kind of stay away from participating in the admin boards. On a side note, I thought he was a doppelganger or stalker who is targeting you (the similar user names).  Turns out he was here longer than I am.  Jappalang (talk) 06:09, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Your box

 * "This user is a cricket pundit for by the Times of India, the world's largest distribution daily newspaper".

Times of India is only the largest English language daily. There are five foreign language newspapers with wider circulation. See List of newspapers in the world by circulation. Dragons flight (talk) 02:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I should fix it.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Ding!
You've got mail! &mdash; Coren (talk) 02:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Coming,  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Question
I left a question for you here. Can you please comment there? Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 01:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Done  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

RFAR
Could you please vote or abstain on Motion 1.3 in the Matthew Hoffman appeal? It currently has 5 supports out of ten, but the new Arbcom is going to come in in two weeks, and then everything will be thrown into chaos. It has been up for three and a bit weeks, the appeal itself is a month old. It would be nice to be able to get this over with and move on, instead of leaving it to the new Arbcom to sort out.

Thank you,

Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 01:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Noted.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Sandeep Unnikrishnan Sock puppetry???
Please check all users with "KEEP AND EXPAND" votes. I suspects sock-puppetry there, but do not want to accuse any person without evidence. Thanks and I promise will give a banana. ;) -- Redtigerxyz Talk 17:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Patraon=Kadambaking = Doctorpt . The rest are probably there because the main article was on the front page. They'll be ignored accordingly if they are just casual readers who did a drive-by vote.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Request an opinion at an open arbitration request
I appreciate you are likely busy with other things right now, but if I could direct you to the procedural inquiry here for just a second, that would be great. All that is required is an arbitrators opinion, that is all. MickMacNee (talk) 15:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's accepted now, so it's mute.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

November Arb Stuff
Probably going to be the last nudges you'll be getting from me excepting perhaps 1 or 2 in December. Bittersweet in a way. :P


 * this motion (alternative 1.3 needs 1 more support or abstentation vote to pass) ✅


 * this motion


 * this motion on AH ✅

and;


 * Requests_for_arbitration/Kuban_Kazak-Hillock65/Proposed_decision ✅

If you could vote on the above, especially the motions, that'd be awesome. :) There's also the SlimVirgin/AE motions, and especially the old and long Piotrus 2 case which needs to be closed soon. ✅ Would appreciate any assistance you can provide in moving these along to close/archive status. ;) Cheers, Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC) modified again at 04:35, 3 December 2008, 06:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC) (UTC), 06:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC) and 05:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If you could abstain on this it'll pass and that whole mess can be bundled up and actioned. Pretty-please? :) Daniel (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (Moving this thread down to page-bottom to leave additional comments.)


 * YellowMonkey, there's been some curiosity on the Clerks' noticeboard as to whether you plan to participate in on-Wiki Committee matters any time soon. As a rule of thumb, Arbitrators that have not made any ArbCom-related edits in two weeks are usually moved to "away" to keep the members list current.


 * Would you have any objection to being moved over to away for the time being? Any comments you have can be either dropped on the Clerks' noticeboard or on this thread, at your leisure.


 * Regards, AGK 17:02, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * YellowMonkey...? Ping? AGK 21:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be right.... YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that is an affirmative that you'll be participating on ArbCom matters soon? :) AGK 17:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Wally Grout
Hehehe, my mother has a biography of him lying around at her place, so there is an easy DYK in a few days...(He was my grandmother's favourite player) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * All the way to GA no doubt?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 08:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

The Word Ho Chi Minh City
Hi Yellow Monkey,

I put up a page called 'The Word Ho Chi Minh City' and you deleted it with no explanation.

For future reference, could you let me know why?

Thanks!

Labyrinth23 (talk) 03:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Basically, the article is written in the style of an advertisement. Also it does not appear to be notable WP:N.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Monkey,

Thanks for your response.

Is it possible to see the page again so that I can edit it.

As for being notable, as far as I can see those sources are good. Could you explain why they're not?

Thanks for your help.

Labyrinth23 (talk) 06:41, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure I'll get it for you.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to User:Labyrinth23/The Word Ho Chi Minh City. The main problem is that the references have to be independent, not it's own website, and the article has to be written properly, not like an advert with information on how to subcribe etc.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 08:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Protection of Joseph Cao
Could you please explain your protection of Joseph Cao? There is a request to unprotect it here. There seems to have been little or no anonymous vandalism before the protection, and the article hasn't been protected before, so indefinite semi-protection seems unjustifiable. Thanks. --Tango (talk) 14:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I've unprotected it, but the edit before I protected it said in Vietnamese "as tall as a penis".  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding alternative remedy for greg
In light of votes to close and this passing, may I ask if you have seen this alternate proposal? If you have seen it, could you post your vote there, with a rationale? Thank you, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be back.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

A comment would be much appreciated
Regarding finding 25.6, which I consider still very important. I'd very much like to learn why you voted as you did. You may also want to read this for my rationale in asking you to support Kirill's original finding. Thank you, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll read them. The reason I don't want to comment on "good faith" is not because I have a general cynicism of it or have a specific suspicion about you, but because some of the allegations here involve off-wiki activity. I think that if arbitrators go into this type of stuff, people will be encouraged to try and spy on each other, or pretend to befriend people and run sting operations off-wiki, or to turn on people. I have seen a few guys join up with a few other guys off-wiki (only revealed afterwards) and they seemed happy with each other, and groups A and B seemed united in dealing with group C. Then after group C left, some of group A posted a pile of supposed correspondence on-wiki [which contradicted themselves] and then banned some of their former buddies [later overturned]. I'm not sure if they had always intended to report B after C had been thrown off and only intended to team up with B so that B could fight for them, or whether they changed their minds on a whim, but after that it started a horrendous brawl within the said WikiProject, with some folks sending emails to one guy alleging some guy did a certain illegal thing and then sending emails to another guy saying other things, and trying to play mind games with different people as to who to report [possibly falsely] and who to cover-up in return for political favours. After that the WikiProject went into a recession for a long time, basically, and even 18 months later is basically not growing much at all in terms of FA, and that was one major reason for it, although other big-time writers slowing down was another. I think that if there is a problem with some guy, it's better to deal with it in a straight manner, instead of trying to do off-wiki tricks, which can lead to mass distrust. So that's why I don't really like to make a big deal about it, in case people try to start to raise the stakes about off-wiki business.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the extensive reply. There are several findings/remedies that state that off-wiki coordination is difficult to prove/disprove without special evidence, and I am satisfied with those (quite logical) findings. The point of 25.6, as I see it, is rather different: this is a second arbcom in which I have been accused of being (by some editors at least) next to a wiki "evil incarnate" :> I am fed up with such accusations, which appear not only on arbcom but occasionally all over the wiki (quite a few appeared in Piotrus 1, were ignored by arbcom then, and as a result not disappeared but were reappeared afterwards and reappeared here). Thus I am certain that if certain issues are not addressed this time, I will be facing the same slander for the next year or so, until Piotrus 3 is launched... thus I would like to see either a general rebuke or a series of specific (evidence and workshop proposals by user x are rejected). Findings of good behavior may not be common but I know they are not unprecedented as far as arbcoms go, and I strongly believe that this case, per reasons I tried to elaborate upon, may be in need of such finding(s).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 11:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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Arbcom ignoring myself
On 17 September I sent an email to Arbcom, which can be viewed in its entireity here. I have repeatedly asked for a response from Arbcom, and I have yet to reply a single response in regards to the botched checkuser performed by an Arbcom member, which resulted in me having to out myself in order to show said Arbcom member that they had made a monumental mistake. All throughout the checkuser, I was treated in what I believe was an uncivil manner, particularly as an assumption of WP:AGF was never made. And I stated at the time that a simple apology would not cut it. As I stated above, I have repeatedly asked Arbcom for a response, with emails being sent to the Arbcom list on 21 September, 20 October and on 4 December. To date, I am yet to receive a response from Arbcom, except an email 5 days ago which stated that I would be gotten back to within a week. Given that Arbcom is absolutely aware of my case, as I brought it up at the Kuban_kazak Arbcom, here, and given that Arbcom does not have the common decency to even acknowledge it, one can't help but feel that I am being completely ignored. If I haven't received a response from the Arbcom by the end of the week, I will be opening a case in full view for all of the community to see, because as far as I am concerned, Arbcom members are not above the same standards that us mere mortals are held to. --Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 17:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Empire & Cambodia
I'm glad to see that someone else who understands WP policies has joined in. I've been having real problems with EuroHistoryTeacher getting him to understand WP:NOR, WP:V and WP:RS. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 10:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you think he will want to stick it back in there? He seems to have stopped in the last 24 hours, although I'm not sure why.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Perhaps the fact that someone else other than me is making the same point about references has made him realise it's not just me "wasting his time" as he suggested at one point.   The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 02:14, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

O.k. but no no problem we seemed to have already "fixed" this indochina issue but anyways thanks .--EuroHistoryTeacher (talk) 21:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Email
Hi Yellow, did you get my email, and could you possibly take a quick look at the issue? After looking further into it, I'm not so sure, sorry if I was a bit strident about it when I wrote. I would appreciate your opinion muchly.:) Sticky Parkin 20:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me. Did you have a talk to the original CU?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How strange, I thought I replied here but didn't. I should really, I just asked you as I 'know' you through your work with Ekajarti/Ipsos.  It was User:Voice of All, I'll ask him.:) Sticky Parkin 02:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's ok, I don't really much about Coldmachine except he was up against Ekajati and GlassFET and like. And I don't have the old explicit data.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Using yer connections...?
Hey BL, did you ever think of contacting someone like Richie Benaud and asking if they wanted to donate some "off-cut" photos to wikipedia? May be a good way to get some images of players from 1960s anyway. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have a little bit recently, that I met and talked to Dr Bernard Whimpress, the curator of the Adelaide Oval museum and Gideon Haigh at a cricket mini-conference. Dr Whimpress did ask me to explain what WP was about and perhaps give a talk about it to the Australian Society of Sports Historians, although GH chortled, perhaps sardonically. when I metnioned that his work was quoted on WP! Nevermind, we'll see what happens as I've been told that my blogpost about Jack Iverson was passed onto GH. I wonder if it was wel reeived though. Also apparently Roger Wills teh ABC radio commentator goes to the ASSH although not when  I was there this month. Perhaps I can twist his arm lol.  YellowMonkey   ( bananabucket ) 00:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

EuroHistoryTeacher
More delights from EuroHistoryTeacher. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 02:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm only familiar with Vietnamese history. Can you explain what the problem is?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that TOO MANY HISPANOPHOBES who think they OWN wikipedia and who claim they are half-spanish love to put bullshark in the Spanish Empire article and they don't have a clue of what they are doing. Also they love to read books written by british hispanophobes who are laughed at by historians at the Royal Academy of Spanish History and who also support catalonian and basque separatism within Spain. --EuroHistoryTeacher (talk) 17:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You might want to be more specific with incorrect data, pov-pushing rather than asserting a bias as an outsider wouldn't be able to know where to start with just that.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)