User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive131

Roland Perry
See Roland_Perry#Dispute_resolution

Your opinion
Hi, Names of the Greeks seems like a hopeless mess with no one interested enough to clean it up, but I am scared to nominate it for FAR. What do you think? Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 01:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked at the names in the history and I don't think they would riot as a means of deterring FAR. Mostly the people in the history will disregard critics/FAR as not worth worrying about. In any case, if the owners are happy that their work doesn't need to be improved, we can go straight to FARC  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, straight to FARC? (Maybe I don't understand the terms.) How do I do that? Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 02:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think in the case that the owner of the author refuses to change an article, either because they think teh nom is a trolling expedition, the article is perfect, or it is a stunt or whatever, the article can move straight to the FARC (voting)phase  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The original nominator of the article Colossus has not edited since Spring of 2008. However, one of his last edits addressed the problems with Names of the Greeks on the article talk page. It seems he agrees that the article's quality has fallen sharply, despite having many references. Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 16:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Copyedit requested
Hello! It has been suggested at peer review that Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347 could use a going-through by a native-language editor for details of style. If you are interested, your help would be welcome! Regards, Constantine  ✍  07:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'll have a look  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 13:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit level for Philippines
Are all contributors barred from editing this article? Gubernatoria (talk) 08:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll remove protection  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 13:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hindutashravi
I guess I was hoping he'd just go away - will let you know if he comes back. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 13:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thankyou for your kind words, YellowMonkey. Mumbai has finally achieved GA status. This was a tough task. Do you think, it is somewhere near FA now. Kensplanet TC 04:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's defenitely a lot closer. I'll have a look  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 05:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Hi! How are you? I was just taking a break from controversial stuff and creating stubs on Indian villages when this person drew me into a conversation by labelling my contributions "rubbish".

In one place, Svr014 claims that Vadama Iyers are not related to Vadakalai Iyengars and makes personal attacks to defend his claim. At another place, he claims that Vadama Iyers and Vadakali Iyengars have the same set of gothras i.e. ancestry. I doubt his actual intentions. Now is this a mere gimmick? Anyway, I wish to take a break from this nonsense but seems these people would let me have by starting such discussions on pages I had edited long, long ago. - The Enforcer Office of the secret service 13:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I will take a look at another time. The current computer I am on, popups doesn't work and the machine is slow so to open a diff at a time would take too long.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Please don't mistake me. Yeah, I know that there are many ways to get someone blocked. But then, I had not started the sockpuppet investigations just to get someone blocked. I have had genuine concerns that User:Svr014 is (or rather, was) engaging in sockpuppetry and was previously using other profiles. First, there was extensive vandalism and POV-pushing by User:Vyaghradhataki who was adding hateful content using the IP range 122.*.*.*. As a result of these edits, the article was semi-protected. Soon after it was semi-protected, a new user appears on the scene and removes content from the lead. The prospect of the new user being a sockpuppet of a persistent vandal seemed to be a strong possibility as the article had been recently semi-protected and no person without a profile could edit it. And 122.*.*.* is obviously a sock of Vyaghradhataki as you could see from the similarities between this edit by Vyaghradhataki and this by IP 122.*.*.*.


 * Check out the similiarities between


 * this edit by 122.*.*.*


 * the third paragraph of this edit by Vyaghradhataki


 * Here, Vyaghradhataki using a sockpuppet, User:Parakesarivarman has himself admitted to owning a sock User:Sembian valavan in Wikipedia.


 * Yeah, I've been extremely reactive and stern in dealing with this. Why? You can understand the seriousness when you have a look at this and this. Thanks- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 03:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it does seem like 122. is V in accordance with the suspect tags. But The other guy's IP agrees with the statement on his user page that he is in the United States.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 14:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

A sincere request to you
Dear User,

Thanks for your input regarding the complaint by another user. I am an American and I did not move to the USA from any other country. Please assume good faith in my account. I am not a sock, and any admin can verify this fact. I do not know who Mr. V is. Please help me and please protect my account and interests on WP. This is my sincere request to you. Have a nice day! Svr014 (talk) 13:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Please also note that I am a new user and am unfamiliar with the WP culture. Please enlighten me with methodology and ways of communication, if you would like to, so that I can be a strong, happy, editor. Please do not block me. This is also a sincere request to you. Please assume good faith in me and please do not bite me. I am a newcomer. Svr014 (talk) 13:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Good day Sir, Please note that I am an American and I did NOT move to the USA from any other country in the recent past. I do not understand why [User: Ravichandar84] is blindly accusing me. I live and work in the USA and am a proud American. I respect all the editors at WP and I expect the same from all editors. I request you to protect my account [User: Svr014] and interests on WP. Please tell [User: Ravichandar84] not to accuse newcomers as sockpuppets or meatpuppets. Please read the following pages which state some principles on WP. They are:


 * 1) WP- Assume Good Faith at WP: AGF
 * 2) WP- Help Newcomers at
 * 3) WP- Civility at WP:CIVIL

Again, please protect my account. Please do not block me for no reason. Please tell [User: Ravichandar84] not to accuse me. I do not know who Mr. V was. I am an American citizen and I am new to WP. The reason why I retired from WP is mainly to avoid accusation from users like Ravichandar84. Hope this explains my side of the story in a very professional manner. Have a nice day! Svr014 (talk) 16:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I will take a look at another time. The current computer I am on, popups doesn't work and the machine is slow so to open a diff at a time would take too long.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: +
Thanks for the barnstar. If you see any other FARs that are close to "keep" territory, ping me and I'll take a look. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Lake Burley Griffin done. I couldn't convert the volumetric flow rate in Lake Burley Griffin, but I don't think it's a big issue. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Images still need alternative text, but everything else looks good. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR
Yes, excellent idea. Those things may pop again and again. Kensplanet TC 16:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ashes
Fairly even I say. Looks like Requests for bureaucratship/Juliancolton‎ is going down.  Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 06:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Australia ahead I think. The pitch doesn't appear to be doing mcuh. Alot of slack batting  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 06:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * England ahead I think. England have runs on the board and Australia to have bat last. A lot depends on the Aust. top three tonight. -- Mattinbgn\talk 06:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There we go three different opinions. Pieterson's shot was v poor.  Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 06:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I didn't think it would come to this but the inside cover of Miller's Luck claims that he won "Book of the Year" from the [UK] cricket society when he wasn't even shortlisted. I wonder if it was a "deliberate error"?  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 06:37, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

mmm.... it's gotten Very strange. Thanks didn't notice the peer review on my watchlist.  Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 06:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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FAR issues regarding Australian articles
Now I don't know who "Aaronclick" is but unfortunately he seems to have caused a bit of a stir a while back at Talk:Australia. He probably should have mentioned this on the talkpage but he didn't so we must move on. I think he was hoping that this will promt action in fixing refrencing issues. (For the record a little birdy tells me he did the same to Canberra) Some of the natives obviously didn't like this and got a bit upset as he was supposidly just "throwing in tags without really considering if they were necessary." Maybe if Aaronclick removed unsourced info it would cause quite a stir.... Maybe if we started work on Australia along with Canberra we could save some work for our selves when FAR comes around. Just a thought. Do you have any idea when you think the articles would come around for FAR?  Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 11:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Strange you didn't tell me who the complainant was and I didn't think that Tony1 would be it. NeEvertheless there are lots of unsourced stats there which need reffing. I see at WP:URFA there are 9 WP:AUS FAs that were written in 2005 and were unreviewed. At the rate that those are being nominated, I would predict that about 60% of those 2005 FAs will be nominated by the end of this year, so 6 Australian FAs will be in trouble. At the moment I don't think any of them pass the standard, not by a long shot, although I won't be closing those FARs as I would be trying to salvage them. Most of them are short-looking flora/fauna articles a la cane toad and Lake Burley Griffin and might need a complete expansion. Quite a lot of them are Canberra articles. Need to get the locals involved but judging by the response to LBG and Cane toad on AWNB I think it's inevitable that some won't be saved unless there is a broader set of people chipping in. Bilby can't do 70% of the work unless he is going to rewrite about 50% of the FAs as a lot of them were/are unbalanced and had odd sections while missing important stuff.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Even things like Bodyline, Bill O'Reilly and Don Bradman need a content overhaul although only a cricket enthusiast would know that there is missing content. For a lot of FAs I wrote even last year I am discovering all sorts of content and and adding more all the time. A lot of the FAs could have content problems that aren't known unless a would-be reviewer or revamper read up on [10+] books about it an the general topic, or unless there is an expert who has already read 20+ books. I also have an excel file with a list of Australian FAs by citation density, although citation density is only one of the potential problems.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow
FAR is back on track!


 * Thanks, although I wouldn't say that FAR is back on track if you mean preserving stars. Most are outmoded and haven't been improved since they passed three years ago, so FAR is more a result of three years of apathy than anything. Only 15% of articles at FAR have been saved since the start of May; it's the result of a whole generation of articles not moving enough with rising standards. I've only got enough time to try and fix some old Australian FAs and it's mostly up to the WikiProjects to fix their old FAs. Only the Australian one does FA saves, and Yannismarou does the Greek ones all by himself. But even then, although all seven Aus FARs since late 2007 have or will be saved, the continual rise of FA standards means that a lot more have been rendered unsatsfactory and will be inevitably be FARed once they all pile up. WP:INDIA has lost 20 in the last 24 months and the FA count has stayed stuck to around 65 for the last two years. The same thing could happen to Australia if there an underclass of FAs gets left behind because it's hard to deal with lots of FARs at once on the run unless there are a lot of people from the same WikiProject all working on them.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, mav's been doing a nice job with the US national park articles. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's true, his articles haven't been here much recently. He's one of the few to fix it  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 05:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've started work on Whale song... I think I'm starting to settle in already. FAR isn't so bad.  ceran  thor 15:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)