User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive136

Citation needed
Hello. Your DYK suggestion checks out, except I don't see in the article about Ian Chesterman that Australia won three gold medals. Could you please check the DYK page? Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 01:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Tamil cabal?
I noticed that your statement at Articles for deletion/Allegations of State terrorism by Sri Lanka suggests of a Tamil Cabal of sorts, and therefore am puzzled from where this allegation sprung from. Another user I have dealt with suggested the existence of this cabal of sorts, and I am just curious what justification you may have.Pectoretalk 01:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't referring to you, but some people with more restrictive interests, especially those from teh same overseas city.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clearing that up. I consulted with some other users who informed me of this group you were discussing. Very interesting indeed.Pectoretalk 22:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Lake Burley Griffin

 * Thanks...it got a bit tiring at times, not being in my specific interest, but it was good to save it.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 00:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Great job, would have taken hours. Lake Burley Griffin wouldn't have been the most exciting article to work on.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 06:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It was a bit dry yes. So was Australia at the Winter Olympics. There isn't much on the old-timers who came almost last except the stats. Especially as the media wouldn't have kept track of them  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 08:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: Indochina War
The Battle of Muong Khoua migth one day get there. Cheers. SGGH ping! 11:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject TRANSWIKI
You are all invited to join WikiProject TRANSWIKI and join the Vietnamese language transwiki project. The aim is to draw up a full directory of missing articles from Vietnamese wikipedia and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge and to improve existing articles by translation and finding reliable sources to back up information. We need your help, as your language skills are crucial!. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 11:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Gee this might be too much for me. I don't want to get your hopes up by signing up and not doing anything like a politician who only turns up for a free lunch  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry it doesn't all have to be done over night put your name down anyway!. I'm not exactly going to have much time to dedicate to purely Vietnam trnaslation on here anyway!! Some time we will get a bot to draw up a list of referenced articles anyway. The idea is that it is part of the Vietnamese project and that we collaborate and extract what is up to standard and if the article is unreferenced then find a way of finsing sources to compliment them so they meet requirements. I know it is a big task but as I said it will be a gradual one, it is more a way to list banks of missing articles, so if you want any articles transwikied or started list them in our workspace which will be built up in due course. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 08:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Pham Van Son
Uh, didn't it twig when I said about it a few days ago? Dr. Blofeld       White cat 09:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
and here's one for you:

We won
Paid editing. TomStar81 (Talk &bull; Some say ¥€$, I say NO) 01:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it isn't policy yet. I don't think the RFC did anything except reach a stalemate.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you. JKBrooks85 (talk) 01:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Australia-India
FYI. Abecedare (talk) 02:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Noticed. Can't do the CU myself, obviously  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Clearly! We don't want you deCUed. Abecedare (talk) 02:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

The cricket stuff looks good (although I wouldn't add the see also for Phanto there). There is enough material for a full article! I would humbly suggest some of the orphanage work/PR of Saint Steve of Bankstown (sarc) could be included as a less acrimonious example of cricket leading to interpersonal links. Perhaps Binger the singer as well? -- Mattinbgn\talk 05:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * On a personal note, I have actually met Sujatha Singh, the Indian High Commissioner. I spoke to her briefly at this event last year. It was quite a moving experience, the local community were quite touched by what she had to say. -- Mattinbgn\talk 07:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't normally link to Phanto either in the long run, but since the 1969-70 tour article doesn't exist yet and Lawry is the de facto 69-70 article. Added a bit on those scholarships for Indians to go to the ACA. IIRC Tiwary, Raina and Rohit have been there.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for this, BL. I'll do my best to ameliorate the Australia–India relations article. Have a nice day! :-) AdjustShift (talk) 08:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I am interested in doing something along those lines. I used to lurk (not post though) at RSC on usenet for a while but it all got too silly to bother with. -- Mattinbgn\talk 08:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * What's RSC?  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I am skeptical of the impact we can have on the-people-on-the-internet but am all for tilting at windmills, or at least improving the Australia-India relations article. Nice to see a quorum forming. Abecedare (talk) 13:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, only 700 reads this month although if we link to it, maybe more.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
I really appreciated your comment.-- VS talk 05:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Aus-Ind fixup  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 08:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR
Is there any way to get another director to close them? I've found a couple FAs that probably need to be listed, but the FAR list is quite long already. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've asked Raul a lot of times but he has not replied for a week on this batch. In the old days, he promoted his own FAs, and didn't seem to be worried about it, so maybe he is expecting me to do the same. In late 2007 there was a time when maybe he didn't close FACs for about three weeks and the list got up to around 120-140 for a while that he finally agreed to let Sandy be the delegate....But I don't see why you should worry about the backlog...Most of those articles are abandoned anyway so most FARs only take up about 1 hour of total human resources anyway if you want to nominate some.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. I have two unrelated questions that have been nagging at me for months: 1) Why do use this account and your "Assessment" account almost interchangeably? 2) What is the point of the cricket pictures poll? Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I started YAM to do talk page taggings, but eventually just used it for all non content edits instead as a habit..... The point of the poll was that I took a lot of photos of the same thing and was asking the general public community, to pick which one had teh most photographic merit for using in the article. Not many have replied and I need more survey participants, as you can see....  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:19, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah. Are you are sports journalist (no need to answer if you wish to keep it private)? I'll keep the photos in mind when I have nothing to do. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think I count. Although I pissed off Roland Perry with my hack reviewing and error hunting judging by the way the SPA that turned up to whitewash his article. All the cricket specialist historians know that his work is lifted from the old classics.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I find the idea of a hired Wiki-thug hilarious. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well was desysopped for using a sock for paid spam and he wrote the delisted FA on cricket. Perry could have hired him and the interest in cricket wouldn't have looked out of place...  YellowMonkey   ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thugs can just as easily be well-educated and smooth-talking businessmen as muscular grunts. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Miller and Bradman
Hi. Reading some old Wisdens over the weekend; found a splendid quote/story from Michael Parkinson about KM/Braddles. Will try and type it in this week. --Dweller (talk) 11:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Marvellous  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 00:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday, Mr Monkey. --Dweller (talk) 21:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well what a nasty fellow that Bradman was, asking Miller to bowl express on a sticky wicket.... and he complained against Bodyline. For Bradman's part, he said that Lindwall and Miller bowled slow in 1948 with not much bounce. Lol  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

A total clash of personalities: the champion and the maverick who'd seen hell. Really, it's astonishing. If Bradman is the ultimate winning cricketer, Miller is surely the most lovable one of all time. And I'm not just talking about his women! --Dweller (talk) 07:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Cricket Crossfire
If its of any use to you, I just picked up a copy. Happy to scan etc. –Moondyne 06:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 07:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Future FAC review
I've been working on building Trans-Alaska Pipeline System up to featured status, and while I'm still a ways off from that (I've just submitted for GAN, and I need to get individual reviews after it passes), I'm a bit concerned about the article size. Right now, it's got 82kb of readable prose, which would make it the No. 5 FA in terms of length. Conversely, it has almost 300 citations, which is my goal. Could you take a look at it and let me know what you think about its length? Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, personally I am not too worried about a long article myself if there is a lot to say, eg Keith Miller and I think Don Bradman is pretty short for the topic, however I do think a lot of people will get bored by the construction details, eg the the thing about strikes. Since it was prevented from happening due to pre-emptive action, it probably doesn't need to be stated so much in the main article because it was already there. I think a fork should be created for that.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Australia at the Winter Olympics
I'll give it a sweep tomorrow and see if I can help push it to avoid FARC. Referencing looks much better at a glance and the problematic images are gone, so a little prose work may in fact do it.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 01:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Part one done, covering everything until the sport-by-sport overview. Will do the rest tomorrow, because you're not the only one who feels lazy.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 00:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

FARs
Thanks for dropping by my page. Yes, I can see there's work ahead at FAR, including for Australia. I am happy to put my hand up to help. My ability to contribute will vary a lot, time-wise: at the moment I'm doing a lot, but later this year it's likely to be less. I'm mostly a content reviewer, as you'll see by my activities at GAN and FAC etc; I'm not as strong as a content contributor. My current project, Indigenous artist biographies, here, is a little bogged down. Ping me if I don't seem to have seen something where you'd like more hands on deck. hamiltonstone (talk) 08:45, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was wondering if people were going to do it pre-emptively as, there's a lot that are in need of repair. Makes it easier at FAR  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Paid editing
YM, perhaps this issue will collide with our lax policy on alternate accounts. are you aware that there's been pressure to tighten up that policy? I'm interested to know whether WP is letting itself in for really bad news in trying to manage both issues. Tony  (talk)  10:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have, I saw there was a bit of action after this Geogre thing at FAR, but I think most people stay well within it anyway and that most people regard it as misleading to go argue the same thing at the same FAR with two different accounts. Geogre didn't deny it but as people tend to AGF that things are legit unless something fishy happens, they aren't going to ask every guy on the same side of the pendulum to declare that they aren't socks. I don't think the recent activity about socks is because of the paid editing thing, using a bad hand account to spam.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

FAR Interview
Hey there. I would like to conduct an interview regarding the Featured Article Review process over the next week or two. Are you available / are you interested? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:03, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Seems Raul forgot to archive the FARs. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:07, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * He did it finally  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hokay, the interview will take place in my workspace here. I'll be posting a series of questions related to FAR for you to answer. The next two Signpost issues will be published on August 10th and 17th, so we'll try to get a good solid interview ready for one of those two dates. Thanks mate! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 02:12, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Review request
I hate to ask you this since you're getting stretched about 18 different ways, but could you take a quick look at Yukon Quest for me? I'm trying to gather some reviews prior to taking it to FAC for the third (and hopefully last) time. I can't expect you to do anything in-depth, but even some pointers at tricky spots in the prose would be helpful. Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 11:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've done a few tweaks with the referencing to streamline it. The prose probably could be improved, if I can see stuff. Is there any TV/media coverage of this event or anything else that makes it a spectator event. Do people go to the villages and clap them along (apart from the finish line), I doubt many would given the temperature. I guess the numbers in the participation section could be easier to digest with a graph, which shouldn't be too difficult.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 04:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll get to work on that graph after I do some FAR work. JKBrooks85 (talk) 07:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Selwood
I added this to the article...

The round 17 grand final rematch against Hawthorn saw Selwood collect a career high 42 disposals—19 kicks, 23 handballs, 10 marks, 11 tackles and one goal. Geelong midfielder Cameron Ling described Selwood's performance as: "Absolutely amazing... He just single-handedly lifted the whole group with his intensity around the ball. It's surprising that he's only in his third year. He's something pretty special."

But Boomtish seems to think that it should be removed until the end of the season as it could become outdated. What usually happens for articles? I noticed with info in cricket articles are updated after matches. A player may score his highest score and gets updated right away. The edit doesn't wait to the end of the season.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 06:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict! No problem with adding it. We note each time Thorpe broke the 400m WR, and don't blank out the old ones when he sets a new WR. Anyway, good to see Hackett's WR withstand the suitboost!  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 07:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Beat me asking you.. :) Well don't know whats going on. Pilcha hasn't responded. Seems to be close and he said that it would have been done by now. It's dragging on for too long. Interestingly he wanted me to shuffle around the sections even though I still think History should be at the top. The Brits seemed to think Hackett's record would go.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Those suits are worth about 1s per 100. I reckon Hackett could have done 14.19 in his heyday.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 07:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Need YP done before any other refs decide its a day. Modern times/suites are making Fraser and co look average. Didn't see much of the championship although it was on One HD which we finally got this month.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it just for me or have most of the handy tools stopped working?  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they don't work on Featured article candidates/Keith Johnson (cricket administrator)/archive1 either  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! ) 07:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's been a while as well. Harvey next?  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 08:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Well not necessarily, the "in 48" series are all ready but the reviewers come so slow on that one. Harvey still has a way to go  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! ) 08:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

BTW I was meaning It's been a while since the tools have been working.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 08:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Dunno what's going on with the Aurora Stadium review, seems to be slowing drifting out of memory. Sent a quick message to Philcha, asking If we're still carrying on. Shucks, good work on Johnson by the way. How you managed to find that much out about him, I will never know.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 06:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In saying that its finally passed.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 13:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done on that and Selwood. Looks like a one horse race now with Geelong out of form. I doubt Collingwood or WB will be able to keep up  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Update
No problem with AEJ. If you need any help with other pending FARs (prose, MOS, citation cleanup). I'm focusing my efforts on Sheffield right now, so don't close that yet. Also, don't close Diamond either; I just asked Physchim62 to take a look (his views on the FA process notwithstanding). Dabomb87 (talk) 14:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Raul seems to have disappeared for a week  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

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