User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive139

Australia at the Winter Olympics
I'm slowly working through it, should be done by Sunday/Monday. It's a relief to be able to understand one of your sports articles for once! Dabomb87 (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Keith Johnson (cricket administrator) doesn't require understanding of the rules of hte game, mainly administration politics  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 07:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll look at that if I can. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you ever get around to it, Timeline of Australian television needs updating and references for entries. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Peer review request
I'm asking you for a favor. I've been working with User:Ched Davis to improve the List of Daytona 500 pole position winners to featured list level but neither of us have experience with actually getting something featured besides a failed attempt at getting Alan Kulwicki featured. Would you do a peer review on the article? I know that your a Formula One fan and that you're not American, so I'm hoping that your general motorsport background will help with some of the technical aspects of the article, but your non-Americanness might help weed out some of the American biases. I do have a question for you to keep in mind while you do the review. What should happen with multiple wikilinks to the same article? The way I read, a wikilink to a specific article should happen once in the text but then it should appear on each line in the table no matter how many times the link appears in the table. Is that correct? Please create a peer review section on the article's talk page and reply there (except if you decline my request). It is a short article.  Royal broil  04:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Bln
Hey Bln!! Long time!! What's up?

Remember all the socks of one individual with an IP that always starts with "117.." that you blocked? Here you have, who is another sock (100%, you can make a check though). He is back at his track, edit warring, vandalising and personally attacking editors. He adds so much POV to Aishwarya Rai that I start laughing (like that she praised for The Pink Panther, ewhre she had a no-role almost and when she was actually widely bashed by critics). I started a talk page discussion on the matter, clarifying it, and reverted him but he'll clearly revert me back. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  22:55, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked him for 2 days. It's that 115 fellow who was blocked for the KK article. As for me, well slow traffic on FAC as always. I have a stack of ready to go but you can't add a 2nd FAC until you get two supports and that takes about 2+ weeks usually with the interest in my topics. here  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * But it is actually the one who created accounts like (so many):, , , etc etc. And there are many many more (like ) and also once when he saw I was the editor of Zinta, he also created . And the proof is that this new sock does the same things (he wrote me a message mentioning her). And like the previous accounts was adding POV to Aishwarya Rai... There are many factors of his behaviour which make me 100% sure.
 * Yeah I could block, but I couldn't explain myself if someone asked, so I can't.....  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * If you don't mind, I'll read your article.
 * Sure  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I request your help Playback singer. A few weeks back I edited this rather messy page. I removed fan-led information, added sources from books and reputable sources. And one user,, who seems to be a fan of one particular artist reverts the article back to his own very old version, reverting the edits of all the editors who have worked on the article since his revision. I've reverted him twice and discussed this on the talk page with him (where he cites many unreliable links, even links from Wikipedia), but he keeps reverting. He has been warned twice for edit warring, but nothing helps. His edits can be easily seen as vandalism, as he reverta the entire history of edits made by numerous editors. Here are the diffs: Diff1, Diff2, Diff3. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  21:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Left a comment  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey again. I don't think there should be a problem as long as you have a CU. His violation does not stop. Here he comes up with another sock. In violation of both WP:SOCK and WP:EVADE. And again, he makes silly additions on Aishwarya Rai about her "supercouple" with her husband. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  09:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I am not a puppet as mentioned by User:Shshshsh, we are in middle of a constructive discussion, which should be finished first. Auityz (talk) 21:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sock of 115. and a couple more. If you don't sit out your IP's block for a few days I'll keep blocking you and block your IP as well  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You 100% are. I never take such reports for granted. I do it only when I'm sure of what I say. Let the admin decide - he has a way to check that. I rest my case. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  21:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Ton That Dinh
About the NYT article that you mentioned, can you email the contents to me, I can only see the start of it. Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:12, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it appears that that article has since been moved behind the pay wall of the NYTimes. One way to obtain it would be to ask someone with LexisNexus access to email a copy of the text to you.  I don't have that access, but most of the participants at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Law have access because they use that tool for legal research. Cla68 (talk) 06:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Tosh
It is fine. I was kind of guessing ahead that caused the mistake. When I read rain, I automatically expected them to speed things up, but Bradman probably knew a bit more about cricket :-) Btw, were the wickets covered or not ? There seems to have been several short spells of rain, but the wicket remained quite good. Tintin 03:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * they were not covered, unless I am mistaken although none of the books say anything because it was probably just assumed that they were all covered. The weather was cloudy through the First Test anyway, so maybe that's why it didn't turn sticky. Well it livened things up. My FACs get very sparse traffic nowadays. Bhajji passed in four in 2007, although that was more due to the general attitude to FAC than anything.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Disruptive sock
Can you suggest how to deal with who made a number of disruptive edits (see these talk page comments to get an idea of the POV pushing 1, 2) created non-notable fringey articles (see  AFD) etc. After a couple of blocks, the user seems to have abandoned the account and is now using IPs to edit-war and make similar disruptive/Fringe/POV edits. I won't list the evidence of socking here, but it is absolutely clear and arguably self-admitted. See contribution history of Some other editors and I reverted the 48.100 IP's poor edits yesterday and gave it a series of warnings on its talk page. But the user is back today at 48.93 redoing the reversions and threatening to sock/edit-war:

The user goes on-and-on in the same vein, but you get the idea. I am not sure if this is a appropriate case for ANI, SPI, or RFPP, especially since the user is active on 10s of articles so semi-protecting them all may be overkill. Any suggestions on how to deal with this ? Abecedare (talk) 07:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll block his range. Sprotecting everything isn't a problem. Nishkid and I sprotect everything edited by the banned Pakistani vandal Nangparbat, which is about 50+ and probabbly 100+  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll let you know if he is back. After all, he may just be bluffing! Abecedare (talk) 01:47, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've just reverted him at Hindu cosmology, Treta Yuga, and Satya Yuga. He is editing from 75.15.244.140 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS) . Priyanath talk 22:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * His IP jumps around 75.15.0.0/16 too much and there are lots of people on that range, so I'll have to lock everything, Nangparbat style. Done  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It looks like Eronel189 is now in a lengthy discussion with/at User talk:Abecedare, who is showing a Gandhi-like level of good faith. We'll see.... Priyanath talk 04:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Aus at Winter Olympics
Done. On a positive note, it looks like the keep rate for August will improve significantly. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And the ones that were kept were worked over before the latest kerfuffle, as there is a one month lag at least, although I doubt people will agree with me.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This one spelled trouble as soon as it appeared on the FAR list. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe some responsible person will take it upon themselves to do whatever is needed  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Keith Johnson
Congrats on getting this through to FA. I thought this would be the most difficult one of all of them, but you've done brilliantly. Johnlp (talk) 08:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think articles on obscure things are a lot easier because while there is a lack of information, balance and comprehensive isn't an issue due to not having to consider everything that happened. Most of the articles on the greats after reading a bit, one discovers that there is a heap of stuff that is missing, like on the Tiger article. So while an obscure thing might raise more eyebrows with outsiders I think an article on a well studied topic can be harder to do properly, especially things like Bradman's disputes as there are hundreds of different views and analyses on his behaviour.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Battleship Message
Actually, I discovered your point myself when reviewing the article; Both Missouri and Wisconsin were in worse shape when they were on the list back in 05/06. Truth be told Battleship is in pretty good condition, the only 'problem' such as there were is that the article has not had a eyes on it for a review in any official capacity since passing its FAC back in 07. I even remark to MBK004 about his exact point, when he asked if we could save the article I had a look through it and the answer was yeah, because its in pretty good condition all things considering. I do appreciate you leaving me the message though, it helped me get a better handle on the big picture here. TomStar81 (Talk) 19:43, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I can't really help you with the content I know nothing about military tech/strategy/tactics so if it wasn't comprehensive or had undue weight I wouldn't know, but in terms of % completeness of the refs matching up to the content, there are a lot more with a higher % of unreferenced content, see WP:URFA that are likely to be picked out. There are a few people who do a lot on boats, so it's really up to you guys to find any content problems in there. A lot of FAs I wrote, some even only last year, afterwards I found more information and realised it wasn't strictly, even if nobody else at the 2008 FAC knew, so I started working on them (one of them ballooned from 10 to 30k of prose after I found a whole paper on it) ... On some old 2004 FARs I tried to reference like Lake Burley Griffin and Australia at the Winter Olympics, once I looked up the book I found out that there was a lot missing, even though the nominator didn't appear to notice this. I'm guessing guys like Bellhalla, MBK, The ed etc have read a lot, so if there is something missing, and if you guys don't know about it and don't take the initiative yourself, then non-maritime enthusiasts probably wouldn't have noticed either. If you deliberately go slack on research, which isn't/won't be the case, then the reviewer wouldn't know, not that you would take advantage of this.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * FAR has gone into something of a lull; I've had to prod several stale reviews. Here's a "recent changes" link that I find useful: Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:Featured_articles/Review list. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm I had a manual on User:YellowMonkey/FAR  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for your great judgement! (Dewan 08:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC))
 * Hi Yellowmonkey, I think I should make you aware of a few issues:


 * 1) User:K.Khokhar seems similar in style to User:Khalsaburg, who was a sockpuppet and had many accounts.
 * 2) His/Her account seems to be created around the same time as User:Satanoid was banned.
 * 3) I am concerned about the WP:CANVASS and general "anti-Indian" sentiment being expressed on his talk page. This is not in the spirit of Wikipedia.
 * 4) This sort of reporting to make it appear, that the other Editor is Edit Warring has been done by this user before.
 * Thanks --Sikh- History 09:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me see  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Inconclusive. In the same small country. Different IPs  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 05:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I too have noticed K Khokar shopping for admin action (1 and 2. He's been doing a lot of undoes on pages I've watchlisted.Pectoretalk 15:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that. Most of his edits are reverts. That's why I blocked him  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes and you Indian users have been supporting editors such as Dewan I will eventually undo all his trashy edits but untill then enjoy your position because the Pro indian POV will be removed 86.158.237.68 (talk) 20:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes  YellowMonkey   ( bananabucket ) 07:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank your again for your copy-editing in Le Van Duyet.--AM (talk) 05:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

wrong button?
You just fully-protected Indus Valley Civilization. I will assume you did this inadvertently, because there is no perceptible reason for the action, you failed to place a protection template, and you failed to give any sort of explanation on talk, or even in the edit summary. I am assuming you intented to set semiprotection. --dab (𒁳) 08:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not necessary anymore  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

woo hoo!
what a wonderful morning :-) - I wonder if I'm going to have any luck finding collaborators to get Stuart Broad to FA? ;-) hooray! Privatemusings (talk) 22:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, yous support England then. Well, cricket is really open at the moment. A lot of teams are sitting around waiting for others to decline. Whoever takes the initiative a year or two early can seize the initiative big time  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't see anything too wonderful about it! :P I went to sleep with the score at 1-80 and wake up at 9-150! Could be Hussey's last Test.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 22:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Please take a look at this
Responding to several comments over at the NOT talk page, based on the idea of "unencyclopedic" content, including yours, I put up a new section, Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not on that talk page. Much of the "unencyclopedic" argument is a pet peeve of mine. It's a bit of a tangent to the main discussion, but I'd be interested in your thoughts on it. Thanks, Noroton (talk) 18:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy message
Hello YellowMonkey, it seems that you were not provided with any message to courteously inform you that K.Khokhar was intent on complaining about your actions. He left such a message for me and upon investigation I note that he has left the same message for at least 6 editors/administrators. I have warned him with a single issue final notice as detailed here however I think it is only fair that you are informed that this editor is intent on raising an issue against you.-- VirtualSteve need admin support? 05:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Noted thanks  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Check User request
Hi there YellowMonkey. Is it reasonable to request a check user for Xxc2009? The new user seems to have no constructive edits – focused entirely on reverting constructive edits actually! Since these are predominantly focused on reverting my own edits, I have a suspicion that it maybe User:Jw2035 given this veiled threat and the fact that he made similar bad-faith reverts two weeks ago.

The main bone of contention between Jw2035 and me seems to be that we disagreed with each others edits on some football articles; I believe he has generally failed to contain his bias for Manchester United over Liverpool F.C.. Also, he did not like the way I improved Exergaming when he nominated it for deletion. I have zero proof that these two users are related, but I'm sure you can see parallels between them. A block for User:Xxc2009 may be an option given the extreme unhelpfulness of edits such as this. It is edits such as that, an entirely uncontroversial one, which makes it clear that the new user has an agenda against me and it is not related to a content dispute. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  19:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Can I also add this IP on to this request? Very likely that there will be cross-over with the others given edits like this and both doing the same edits at Gender verification in sports. Remember that this is a university term time address though, so I presume the other account will not have edited through this IP over the summer. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  23:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Direct hit, you've got a good nose.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 05:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A case has now been opened at Sockpuppet investigations/Jw2035. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  13:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Qasim Umar's page
Bud, note that Pakpassion.net has an article itself on Wikipedia -therefore, it is clearly reliable as a source for information. Also, if you distrusted it that much, was it asking too much to go and verify it from another source? Could you not have marked it in such a way that someone else could attribute it to a more trustworthy source?

Please bear this in mind in the future before you jump to any hasty conclusions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.110.238.16 (talk) 03:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Having a wikipage doesn't mean it is a reliable source of news, otherwise an Al Qaeda website would by RS. The reason I removed it straight away was because of WP:BLP  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 05:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Encyclopedia
Hey Bln, reading your article though I got a bit confused - do all these references put into one footnote actually support one claim that Johnston is "another tailender with little batting ability"?
 * They were there to show that he always batted at No. 10 or 11, if you look at each of them he is listed in that rank.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

List of honorific titles in bollywood - created by a sock of many accounts who in the past adopted Shahrukh Khan's name and created some terrible redirects. Made on lies, hoaxes and POV and filled with nonsense and utter rubbish. A great proof of how encyclopedic our Wiki can be. Put a speedy tag. Could you please delete it if it's not done yet (of course, if you think it's appropriate lol)? Shahid •  Talk 2 me  22:41, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well there is List of nicknames used in cricket etc, so it might not be universally agreed for a speedy, but it would be good to AFD it I think. Also how is Mumbai/KN etc a country?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeh I'm aware of this but this page was full of lies and hoaxes. It's all inventions of the user and may cause a great deal of POV editing. Anyway, it's already deleted.
 * BTW, Preity broke up with Ness - reason, Yuvraaj? Just kidding!! ;) Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  10:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Baby Gender Mentor
I have once again gone through Baby Gender Mentor and checked all the dead or inaccurate links. Somehow when I did this before, the deadlink and failed verification tags were removed without being fixed, so that the true state of the article is not apparent unless someone checks the links like I did. Please do look at the article before this happens again. Thanks, &mdash; mattisse (Talk) 23:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've noted it. I usually do a check of weblinks to articles leaning towards keep to see if the refs actually work or are real. Sometiems there is one ref at teh end of the paragraph and it only accounts for the last sentence  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)