User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive143

Sock
YellowMonkey can you please block Arthur Rightus as he is trolling my talk page, thankyou Thewayilikeit (talk) 23:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You've only got 10 edits. Interesting .....  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 23:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Gasp* Blue Monkey?  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 23:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to the green sig? The sock changed it  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know. Looks blue to me. Funny how different screens show different colours. Had an argument once. I was saying it was one colour and he was saying a completely different one. Like orange and green.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 06:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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Regarding your assertion that tags "don't mean anything", I responded (since removed):Yeah, they do mean something, and there are no "owners" and what the heck got in your cheerios lately, Blnguyen? I support and appreciate you encouraging editors to not be discouraged if their efforts meet with disagreement, either in substance or in application. But if tags mean "nothing" then we need to just delete them all, eh? Obviously that's nonsense, so I submit that your statement is nonsense as well. Please be more careful about what you say; especially when speaking to editors whose tag use has met with strong disapproval from multiple editors. Regardless of which view you happen to agree with, your stated view above is unhelpful. One puppy's opinion. KillerChihuahua ?!?Advice 17:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I wasn't angry at the time at all I must say. I was just meaning that a tag or a number of them doesn't necessarily correlate with the reality of the article, so it is not indicative of a conviction of guilt or exoneration or anything, like erecting a flag to claim a colony or whatever.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just suggesting that you be more precise with your phrasing. You are quoted, you know, and "tags don't mean anything" is not a good meme to have running loose, without whatever damage you did to C's comprehension of the issue - as she rather stridently argues against multiple editors that She is Right, you adding such poorly phrased comments cannot be helpful. I'm not trying to badger you about it; I've certainly phrased things poorly in the past and doubtless will again - I'm just bringing it to your attention. I'm nto sure why you felt you needed to inform me you weren't angry; I did not think you were, and am confused about what in my post might have led you to belive I did. KillerChihuahua ?!?Advice 06:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Noted  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure your comment here about an early closure was in jest, but could you clarify please? I've found that in FARs such as these, there really is nothing you can do except wait a while until FARs such as these are open for a while, and tempers have subsided. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:17, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, Featured article review/Penda of Mercia/archive1 can be closed. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 01:01, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

My condolences
After looking through articles for those that need sourcing checks and others that are lacking attention, I came across a review that was absolutely nuts. I wanted to say that you do great work and that the comments appear to be more of soaping than actual legitimate criticism. Some people want to fight for an issue and push their own taste and force other people to work on other areas. It is a shame. Do keep up the good work and continue to produce quality articles. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That's life. I'm not deluded about how Wikipedia works.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Derrick
Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 06:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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Mistake or others? --Caspian blue 01:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * My own issues with my mouse  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Issues with problematic User:THEunique
I have long encountered this user make edits towards Pakistan and related pages to make it seem as if Pakistan has been removed from South Asia (and the Indian subcontinent) and is only in the Greater Middle East (which he prefers to call the new Middle East and inaccurately edits pages to seem it as such from time to time). They have been accused of vandalism countless times and each time they just ignore the warnings and blanks his talk page. They pretty much never use edit summaries, talk pages, or user talk pages.

evidence for constant ignoring warnings and blanking talk page evidence for ignoring talk pages evidence for ignoring user talk (on two occasions they actually used user talk pages, but simply left rude messages, )

Here are some of the most recent incidents http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan&diff=315638188&oldid=315540085 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urdu&diff=315638393&oldid=315444704 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan&diff=314281349&oldid=314236437 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=310239733 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=292161563

Can something be done about this editor? He has been editing for years, but never conforms to Wikipedia policies. They have been consistently warned about their policy violations, but they continue to them. Can anything be done to discipline them

Sincerely, Thegreyanomaly (talk) 03:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked. Surprised he managed to last so long like that, randomly deleting referenced stuuf he didn't liek from aother articles  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:54, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you?
In the page Mark Waugh you appear to have made a revision as of 05:40, 16 June 2008 by adding text and citations to the article. One of those citations is causing a cite error. Could you please go back and fill out the full source information for the reference tag ? Thanks. 75.69.0.58 75.69.0.58 (talk) 02:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll look  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Third Test, 1932–33 Ashes series has the same issue from 05:14, 3 June 2009 with and from 06:27, 9 June 2009 with  75.69.0.58 (talk) 19:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * And Ricky Ponting has a cite error apparently beginning at

06:59, 27 August 2009 and caused by the reference tag 75.69.0.58 (talk) 05:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC) All done, thanks  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * And Alan Davidson (cricketer) beginning at

Revision as of 05:31, 23 September 2009 and caused by. 75.69.0.58 (talk) 19:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * done  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Ponting
Expanding bits on your favorite cricketer. ;P It's just going to get way too long. Even if you try to keep it short. You could make sub pages; such as Early Career of Ricky Ponting but they make even get deleted. The page is already 114kb long. I'll removed all the table and put them into another article. I could still expand by up to 50kb. Bit like Tendulkar, if anyone bothered to write a GA/FA about him. If I cleaned up the article and added refs and nominated for GA it would probably pass if someone who knew nothing about cricket reviewed it. But that would be lazy. I can the article being taken to FA at 150kb, consequently being way to big.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 03:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The fork won't get deleted. Apart from a few people who only get excited when there is some big issue to get involved in, it won't matter, and it will survive anyway.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just going through recent series there is no/limited coverage of: 2007 World Twenty20 and One Day International tour of India, Bangladesh home ODI's. Parts are in a strange order and tour of Bangladesh needs minor expansion. Then we have the old series.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 05:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought I added something about that one in 2006 where he hit a 100 and they won by 3 wickets after condeding a lead.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Doing major moves. Looks like a mess at the moment. Have only properly wrote 1998 tour of the subcontinent  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 10:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if the 98 confrontation at Sharjah is on youtube but I'm pretty sure Bhajji did not give him the middle finger, but an index finger. Like when a lot people just wave it about when they get a wicket, although it must have been clsoe range. Sometimes autobios can be a bit deliberately ambiguous in a misleading way, to be a bit self serving.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:11, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't say what finger. It's written by Staples with quotes and bits from Ponting. Poor book really; just photo copied from library. Hopefully the stats ref stays for York Park. Featured article candidates/York Park/archive2 isn't really attracting a crowd so no replies. hmm... Was looking for info on the Tasmanian Devil and looks like it could be coming up for FAR soon... I Better start reading up and sourcing.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It might do, although people have stopped nomming FARs mostly. In the old days the attitude on FAC was so different. In late 2005 one guy voted in about 50 FACs in a day, once every few minutes.... These days with the sparse reviews, it depends so much on whether people follow the author, or whether the topic is popular, else you can wait for a month :(  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Assessment Monkeys copyedit.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 06:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like you survived the floods. ;) Did your uni survive?  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 06:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ???  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Flooding in Adelaide .... University Of South Australia got flooded?  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Dunno  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:17, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyway, Fowler opposed Loxton. I don't agree with the reason and it shouldn't be considered.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

MH Coord input
Hi, could you specify where actually? I thought it was restricted only to Arbcom members. Cheers, --Eurocopter (talk) 19:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's been leaked publicly all over the Internet. And is probably being passed around hand to hand as well  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Kamau Kambon
Is it possible to get the (10:04, 1 December 2008 Bob Waller (talk | contribs) moved Kamau Kambon ... (Ġŏt ĤΑĠĞÊR？) (revert)) comment moved from the deletion history of this article? ‎It seems improper to leave a vandalistic smear there in view. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 00:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Request for feedback
Do you have any complaints about my behavior at FAR? If you do, please be frank with me and let me know. I have tried to check with you regarding my nominations and such, but if this has been inadequate, please tell me. I have found FAR relatively pleasant lately, compared to the olden days. However, I want to learn of my mistakes, per my arbitration. I have tried to do everything "by the book"! Regards, — mattisse (Talk) 23:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. This was the arb decision: Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Proposed decision. — mattisse  (Talk) 23:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if things were out of control, I would have stepped in. It's very quiet in FAR (almost always)  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 00:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Does that mean there is nothing problematic with my participation there? If there is, would you be willing to report it at User:Mattisse/Monitoring? I would be very thankful for all feedback. Regards, — mattisse (Talk) 12:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Kanwar Pal Singh Gill
Hello there. I noticed that you indefinitely fully protected this page on 16 July 2009. I was wondering if you think it would be safe to unprotect it now. Regards, NW ( Talk ) 22:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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Brian Booth
Left comments.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 05:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 06:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Haven't got yelled at yet.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ?? What for? Me or you?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:06, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You, for nominating Booth. :)  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 07:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, feel free to chop off the six part if you feel it is relevant. I don't know the ground at all  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 07:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Fine. Re. the third point, it may be because I am not a native speaker, but still confused a bit:


 * Some observers felt that the personable Booth would have been more popular among the playing group than Simpson, while others thought that he would not have been hard-nosed enough in pursuing his team's competitive interest.

Should it be "Some observers felt that the personable Booth would have been be more popular among the playing group than Simpson, while others thought that he would not have been be hard-nosed enough in pursuing his team's competitive interest ? Tintin 07:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Scratches noggin'. Rather dim, is the primate.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 00:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Does Haigh say what his source for Indrajitsinhji incident is ? Tintin 07:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * He doesn't have notes, just a list of books :( But he does seem to agree with the theme of borderline cheating umpires, per the second on 1959-60 as well. In Australia it seems to be standard that subcontinental umpires were a joke in the old days, to the point of resembling crooks in movies like Lagaan etc. eg, the same thing is in Pollard's collection, Harte about services in 1945 and a whole pile of others. I dunno whether they just got it off Whitington's book where he said that the Indian umpire wouldn't give catches at second slip. That's the problem with autobios/player comments if people just copy it without checking the raw footage if available. I think Gilly said that when he got dismissed in the Bhajji hat-trick the ball pitched a long way outside leg, which I don't think was the case although the edge definitely was. Or Ponting saying that the "the same things" in Sydney 2008 reversed themselves in Perth 2008 after Sehwag said he claimed "half-volleys" when there were no disputed catches in Perth.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 00:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I've had a chance to look at Brian Booth's autobiography (Booth to Bat by Brian Booth & Paul White, 1983, ANZEA Publishers, Homebush West, NSW. ISBN 0 85892 224 X) and oddly he only refers to his father by the nickname "Snowy" (by which the father was known throughout the Bathurst region) (p. 9) and never refers to his mother by name. He does say that his father had a reputation as one of the top batsmen of the region in his youth but played irregularly due to his market garden business (p. 10). The book has no index and is a bit heavy on his religious calling but if you can think of anything else you need, I'll see if it's there. --Roisterer (talk) 04:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Do we know if he has sisters or anything? Or bits about school, or anything outside cricket. You could just take a digital camera of it and send it over.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:International Cricket Tours of India
Thought this might interest you. Himalayan   15:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Noted thanks, pretty over teh top  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Taking to featured list
YM, what do you think of taking List of India women Test cricketers to Featured list status? The lead needs to be expanded with some decent content and cleaned up, and I'm struggling to think of what else to add there. I believe the tables and referencing is sufficient. What's your opinion? cheers. - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 00:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe demographic stats like which states have the most players. Also it s:eems from the table that India didn't win a single game from the 1980s to 2002, and hoe many games they play a year, the most capped player only has 20. More stats and all that. Referencing is complete for what is there  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't been able to find anything on demog stats, and can't add anything without synthesis. Other than that, I've expanded a little with some stats, infrequency of matches and gap between wins. How does it look now? Do you think it's good enough for a Featured list nom? cheers - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 00:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You can just look at the players cricinfo profiles and see which states have the most people. There's no OR in adding numbers unless you then editorialise it.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Bombay - 15 of the 71 players, and another seven from Maharashtra too. Also cleaned out the women part. Let me know if there's anything else missing or clean up needs etc. cheers. - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 00:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It might be worth mentioning whether the team is professional, as with the men's team, and if so, since when. Nev1 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Technically, I think the team isn't pro yet. But I'm not sure if they can be classed as semi-pro. Let me dig around, gnews doesn't seem to help, so I'll have to look up some books and add it. cheers.- SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 01:55, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Do the women have one selector per zone like the men?? If so, it's easy to add it since we know which state is.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

You can compare other stuff to trends in teh men's team, I guess  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Let me search around for any info on the pro status and selectors. I'll also look for some trend comparison to the men's team. Unfortunately, women's team press coverage in India is worse than Australia or England, as if that were possible! cheers. - SpacemanSpiff Calvin&#8225;Hobbes 04:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Randle McMurphy
Those details are covered by their respective articles. Anything that would cover the reception of the character would also fit into any of the three main articles, so what benefit is there to having a bloated plot summary? TTN (talk) 01:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I have seen a few academic textbooks explain the motifs and bits about the various cahracters, so when the article is done properly, it would be 4-5 times longer at least. eg, the book itself does not explain RPM -> mechanical nature of the character, or "Ratched" -> Ratchet is about the mechanical coldness of the system, and a whole pile of other metaphors  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Googling on Randle McMurphy or Nurse Ratched or the Chief brings up thousands of hits in a variety of areas (eg academic psychology, google books etc). I am reluctant to add any of these as it is easy to get into an 'is/isn't reliable source' squabble but I would be very surprised if these 3 (at least) are not independently notable. (I am also surprised that TTN succeeded in redirecting all of them some weeks ago without protest.) Occuli (talk) 11:19, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Such sources can only go so far, especially for characters from a single work. Given that the article on the novel hasn't even begun to have been fully fleshed out, it is very likely that all of the information will fit there nicely. In the case that it doesn't end up fitting, it can be split out appropriately afterward. Don't you think that is slightly more reasonable than having an article that has been in the same state for just about five years just keep sitting like that? TTN (talk) 16:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You would be surprised actually. Easily 6k+ prose on each of Bromden, RPM and Ratched  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 02:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Where does the basis for that statement come from (I assume that you're saying that each could easily obtain that amount of real world information)? I certainly don't doubt that there has been some discussion on the characters, but I really don't think that you're going to get three or four paragraphs of analysis per character. Take One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (novel) and properly fill it out properly, and I'd say the characters probably would not take up much more than four paragraphs in total. But in the case that the information provides undue weight, it could always be split out. That's why I'm wondering why exactly an article that is currently just five paragraphs of plot information needs to stick around when there is no definite case for its improvement. TTN (talk) 18:04, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No it's easy, we could find as many motifs as required, even when I was in high school. We had to do six pages of questions on all of them, about 30 questions IIRC, and at a higher level there would be even more.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protection request
Would you mind semi-protecting these pages since Nangparbat has been causing disruption there and seems intent to causing further disruption in the future?


 * 2009 G-20 London Summit
 * Indian Rhinoceros‎
 * Bengal tiger‎
 * Religious terrorism

Thanks in advance. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs )
 * A bit late but there was still one left for me :)  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

cricket infobox
I have made some changes IN cricket infobox article cricket which are very true and do not come under vandalism. Please let them remain so. I request you.
 * Absoluteastronomy is a Wikipedia mirror and not a RS  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 01:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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