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Kelsang Gyatso
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Please explain why you removed references by Waterhouse and Spanswick on that article's talk page. Thank you. Emptymountains (talk) 11:57, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Kelsang Gyatso? What happened there? What province do you want to start on? ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 12:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Did a few on Tay Ninh Province and Chau Thanh, Tay Ninh is missing from the template and so is its infobox and popn/land data  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * KG is some Tibetan monk who rebelled against the Dalai Lama and started his own thing. Emptymountains and Truthsayer62 are members of this this and one of them is an admin for a "New Kadampa Tradition" website and they just fill up the article with hero worship using non-independent sources. I did most of the Thua-Thien Hue ones yesterday  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Tibetan buddhist groups are inherently argumentative about who is wrong and right - regardless of which order you support/ understand/comprehend - for WP to have a well balanced collection of articles about all the people and groups and ways of thinking there is a need for a big cleanup sometime - the current state of the WP arts is a real mess - from any perspective - as there is always undue happening amongst the arts and groups SatuSuro 04:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, regardless, he's plugged a bunch of self-serving info from self-sources, eg, using their own website to say that they have no character faults, no materialistic tendencies etc, which is banned. And while I have your attention, and you are willing to put in your two cents, I need some honourable learned person to sit on the photo judging panel,.... yes, you kind sir  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * (huh? checks navel for signs of disaffected wikipedian fluff...) me kind? me sir? nah just a baby boomer stuck in heavily opinionated and increasingly very disaffected wp-edian (gimme commons, source anytime for the quietlife before milhist take over the damned place) ....  honourable? learned? bah if we have 15 year old admins how could i possibly be learned so close to... ok all that out of the way was that an order or request?... SatuSuro 09:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Order :) — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well either you have as macabre sense of humour whatever that i suspect you have or a very very bad judge of character - either way - what does it exactly entail ? (thinks, ive got em cornered now - to request the need for explain the bloody obvious is quite an offputting device for some... heheh where is my villain pice when I need it? ) SatuSuro 10:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And I thought you'd get easier to understand ... that's what 28 degree nights and 40 degree days do to you I guess ... — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll post a ref critique on the talk page over the next couple of days, it's filled with primary and non-RS opinion pieces. From the article history it looks like the TP approach might be easier to enforce instead of removing with edit summaries. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  05:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

What is your opinion of this material? Mitsube (talk) 07:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's inappropriate. Every wife/flunkey etc goes public and says how good their husband/leader is all the time, in politics sport etc, and this is tripe and undue weight  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

How about the Spanswick material? It is a film of some sort. If you remove it I would support that. Mitsube (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what it is but given the authors' history, everything in the article is cherry-picked and is useless like an election/marketing pamphlet  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if you're done with it then so am I. Mitsube (talk) 02:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I think so, although the article is stgill probably biased I can't do anything unless I read lots of books about it  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Meckiff
I've made a recommendation on the article talkpage which I'd like you to consider. Brianboulton (talk) 10:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, re comments above, I don't think the issue here is merely different tastes in prose, nor British cricketspeak versus Australian cricketspeak. It is the question of what is or is not "encyclopedic" prose. You are a cricket writer used to communicating in a semi-informal style to a generally knowledgeable readership, and your prose serves admirably in this respect. Writing for a general encyclopedia is a different matter, requiring more formality, less slang, more explanation. The required summary style also means leaving out lots of the good bits. Like you I want to see this article featured, and I am sure it will be (Meckiff was before my time [just], but it's a fascinating story), but as Graham mentioned in the FAC, it needs to be presented to a wider readership than followers of Australian cricket. I will continue my copyediting efforts with this in mind, but do let me know if you don't like what I'm doing. Brianboulton (talk) 19:53, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No carry on, that's fine, I'm very easygoing about style, the content is the important stuff. It's just that I worry eg if I don't use enough synonyms and that may irritate people for repetition but at the time they may say what is the difference between a wicket-keeper and gloveman and whatnot  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Coordinator elections have opened!
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IPL

 * Good how IPL videos have been uploaded to Youtube! Who do think will win? — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   07:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't see IPL last year but has the advertising become more incessant. They have and ad on the TV scorebaord in the middle of the over and the commentators shut up when the camera zooms into the board and the ad is played at full volume. Also they have more junk; in addition to the "DLF maximum" they also have a "??? time-out" and some other "??? catch". When are they going to say "Hero Honda hat-trick" and "Ford Fiesta Four" or something..... The relentless tele-spamming is really getting to me, not to mention spending all their time panning to celebs in the crowd, and the cheerleading commentary, saying that every play is top-class and ignoring full tosses. How did KKR manage to win two matches..... heh maybe DD or Punjab, maybe I'm being silly but Punjab have 6 internationals in their mandatory seven, ok they aren't great apart from Yuvraj (Chawla, Pathan, Kaif, Powar, Sreesanth) but they aren't trying to hide 2-3 useless players at least. Still I'm wondering why they pick this guy Manvinder Bislas (a wk with FC av 29 LA av 21 in the second division in India mostly agianst impoverished small states < 20 million people; even Joginder Sharma can get 10WM in 2nd div and he bowls worse than Symonds) and appear to have delisted the Punjab FC wk Uday Kaul (FC/LA av both ~ 50, and plays in first division) who they hardly even gave a game in 08/09 despite other locals with way worse performances  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm watching my first match now, so I don't know. Never saw matches last year — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   06:29, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Frank Vigar
I hadn't thought about it. Presumably you have hopes for its passing? SGGH ping! 10:50, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, there's a lot of work gone into it  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Might as well. I can get round to it after dissertation. (Ironically, I'm doing the First Indochina War - an article I've seen you round before. SGGH ping! 10:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I know basically nothing about the FIW  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Your semi-protections
Hello. The cases of Anuruddha and Nguyễn Văn Thiệu (see above) suggest that you are a little confused about our protection policy and guidelines. I would like to invite you to read them again and reconsider your previous semi-protections, many of which seem to have been excessive. Thank you. 114.146.155.236 (talk) 00:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The guidelines do explicitly state that indefinite semi-protection should only be used as a last resort... -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 17:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a last resort. Nobody cares abotu Vietnam articles and the Wiki culture is more and more about turning a blind eye  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * How is anyone supposed to get into the project and start caring about Vietnam articles if beginner users are unable to edit them? -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 18:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Only a few heads of state are sprotected.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look at the list of your semi protections linked above out of your past 350 protection changes (which takes us back to 19 March 2009 or around a year), only 8 of them have expiry dates and 3 of them are un-protections. So that means nearly 97% of your protection changes are indefinite in length, and that definitely covers more than a few heads of state. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 18:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "It is a last resort" - If by this you mean that you only apply indefinite semis as a last resort, I beg to differ. The log shows that most of the indefinite semis you grant during your protection sprees involve articles that have never been semi-protected before. What's more, very often there was not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection, let alone an indefinite one. Please familiarise yourself with policy at your earliest convenience and adhere to it.
 * To get an idea of what other admins mean by "heavy and persistent" vandalism, I invite you to take a look at WP:RFP and study which requests are being granted (and with what duration), and which were denied because there is "not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection". Thank you. 114.148.192.196 (talk) 21:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Mirpur, Azad Kashmir
Why have you allowed POV onto the Mirpur article and the locked it down? It seems an SPA (who introduced POV) was reverted by banned user and then you reintroduced POV and locked the article. I think you know know enough about South Asian affairs to perhaps realise this - perhaps you can do the honourable thing and make the required amendments. Pahari Sahib  22:20, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You know you can edit it if you agree with Nangparbat, right?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't notice I incorrectly did a full protect  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Meckiff copyedit
I have finished the general copyedit. See the article's talkpage for further suggestions. Brianboulton (talk) 13:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Semi protection of Army of the Republic of Vietnam
Why is this still semi-protected? It didn't seem to have been heavily vandalised at the time. Can it be unlocked now? -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 16:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * So no reasoning to keep it protected? -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 18:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Unprotection of England cricket team
Theres rather a lot of good IP edits on this one... -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 18:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hope you don't mind, I unprotected it after 3 days per a request at RPP, and watchlisted the article to keep an eye. Hopefully the vandalism stays low after this first protection, since there are helpful IP edits to that article and it seems a shame to blanket block them all from editing the page. If I have missed something feel free to undo my unprotection, and drop me a note. Thanks, --Taelus (talk) 17:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Criteria for "notable players" at Left-arm orthodox spin
I have grabbed this question (which had just become an ANI thread though IMO unnecessary) and put it to you. Should there be stricter criteria for "notable"? It has spawned from a discussion about a Bangladeshi player but it begs bigger questions. Do we have a guideline/consensus to stop such debates from arising? Please hop over to the talk page to give an opinion. Cheers SGGH ping! 11:06, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably, I didn't bother thinking about it too much as the guy is running socks and most of the other driveby additions are additions of part-timers eg SRT, Sehwag, yuvraj, Jadeja, Clarke, etc. It happens of the batting and batting order articles as well  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:FARClosed
Created so that another Barack Obama fiasco doesn't arise. Check the history. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just saw that  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Draganparis and puppets block
There is an ongoing case against Draganparis (Maxkrueg1, Maxkrueger 1 and other suspected accounts) sockpuppetry at. Could you please write there the reasons that led you to ban the above accounts? Thx GK1973 (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Err, because they were on teh same small range and used the same copmuter settings  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry... I thought you might not be aware of the case. I didn't know you were the CU of the case. Thanks GK1973 (talk) 10:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

IPL 2
I only checked for the young talent. Pujara was not at all impressive. First match looked very awkward in his stance and scored slowly. Mishit a few full tosses for only a single. Second match, didn't see, but 5* from 15. Indian pacers, hopeless as ever ~ 115 kph (slower and more fullies, halftrakcers and half-volleys than the Aus Women pacers) Some R Sathish bowled about 3 consec 110 kph fullies and Y Pathan in that "amazing innings".... so many boundaries from full tosses.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh and do you read Marathi There are a lot of publicity stunts on Indic wikis They had a fight over being the boss of Wikimedia India last week  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * My biggest disappointment was Harsha too, he's generally been a little more circumspect and less flowing in his tributes but not so in IPL. Hell, even Ian Chappell seems to have accepted Modi's supremacy. Ha, just read that ITN discussion, don't think anyone active on WT:INB would be keen on IPL getting a standard slot. I can read Marathi (it's Devanagari script), but am low on comprehension. As for the indic wikis, most that I've read are pretty bad. Hi.wiki has pretty bad sourcing standards and even get names wrong -- R. K. Narayan, they've included the full form of his dad's name in the title but not his own! Been meaning to go there and change it, but my computer sometimes screws up indic text on wiki. ta.wiki is a little better than hi. from the articles I've seen. Don't know about the rest though. Apparently they decided on the WM India foundation folks, there was some notice on WT:INB a few days ago. Do people really care for these things? But as for your stub problem, with mr.wiki, it's not restricted to Cricket, it's across many many articles. If you take a look at WikiProject India/Unreferenced BLPs/Sorted and the mr iw links you'll notice that even Nana Patekar has only one line (other than filmography). See this table tennis player, also pretty bad. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  07:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's why BBC and ABC are the best, they aren't censored by sponsors. O'Keefe, Roebuck, Lawson are the special comments guys who do about 50% of the games. Alderman and K Hughes do WACA games, and Fleming does a few. Good and forthrightt regardless of what one thinks. And Kery O'K trolling Harsha with Australian slang all the time :) Kerry would be fired in five minutes in IPL if he called the Indian fielding and slow ground coverage as "camels grazing" ( ref to VVS, Dravid, SRT, Gangu and Jaffer in Aus). BBC is also good with Boycs and Tuffers getting into Aggers. It's also better (both Channel Nine and radio, pay-TV is horrible) because the retired Aus/Eng players are generally more humourous and easy-going, and often gently make fun of each other (Taylor joking that he was also a fast scorer in ODIs like M Waugh and Gilly and getting mocked, Slater mocking Taylor about his weight, and Slater getting chided for causing run outs; everyone bagging Lawry about being pro-Victorian and Tony Greig about his three passports ) and themselves (O'Keefe that he can't spin the ball and how the umpire mocked him by turning down his lbw appeal by saying "doing too much", or Fleming saying "100mph off the bat" when someone asked if he bowled fast, Tuffers saying he was shut out of Lord's for a Middlsex game because of his battered Volvo). The subcontinentals are all so stiff and serious about themselves, and probably would get really angry if someone bantered them, so they just make inane cliches. I can't see Sunny taking well to jibes about his scoring rate, or Gangu being prodded about his weight or rubbish inagility or chaotic running, etc. Once when Raina was lashing the bowlers everywhere, G Chappell was praising him and then Aamir Sohail said "Yes, Raina was one of your fav youngsters. You gave him a lot of chances." and Chappell just sat silently for the next 3 overs. It's better having lesser/more relaxed players; Hayden's ego takes himself too seriously and S Waugh would be the same if he was let in the box. The Australians also fill up a lot of time by comparing the play to the past and trying to draw historical lessons, but the subcontinentals don't seem to know/care/regard as relevant, maybe that's why they were such bad captains and make meaningless comments like Arun Lal. It has a bad effect on the Asian cricketing public as well, each time you see a forum topic about the best/fav player/performance all the Indians only give examples from teh last 20 years.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope the IPL doesn't get a slot as the cricket is below par for about 50% of the players, and is actually spam. But it shows how many non-cricket people can be brainwashed easily by Indian corporate propaganda... Nobody in US/Aus idolises Bill Gates or Murdoch/Packer, and Modi has also been convicted of drug dealing. WP:AWNB doesn't know about WM-Aus. The leaders of WMA, who aren't active editors at all, made a speech and were in the news, at AWNB people said "who is this person? what is his username". This stuff is more about disciple-countitis and the guru game, taking credit for other people's FAs etc. Although nothing happens at INB anymore, there are about 27-28 India GANs at moment (400+ backlog :, it's probably a good thing if eveyrone just minded their own business and played the lone wolf, as WP:INDIA was usually racked by "groupism" and stupid ego battles, often by folks with the same POV, when people interacted; you should read the mailing list, it's funny; some guys just gave themselves fake credentials as the leader etc etc, and the Wikipedia takes Chennai had about 30 signups and only 30 odd photos... Also, in the Indic wikis they usually only have one race and one religion, so it's easy, but a lot of people who think they can dominate proceedings in one of those small wikis come to en and can't deal with a guy from a different state doing counter-regionalism or a non-subcontinental, so this coalition of regional entities might end up with fighting over funding allocation, if nor outright fraud.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if they'd spend a little bit of money on Women's cricket in India, it can get up to some decent standards. They have a decent talent pool compared to the other countries and could do with some kind of help instead of these third-grade quota players in IPL. Currently have both batting and bowling WODI world no 1s from India, but people are more likely to know about R Satish etc than them. And even in terms of batting style and class, Mithali is pretty good (I'll admit, I never followed women's cricket until I started writing about it on wiki either, but since then I've found it to be noteworthy). As for the INB, it's pretty poorly monitored, most people don't care beyond their own articles and/or are fed up with the casteist/regionalistic battles that's so prevalent on all the articles. Every damn caste in Tamil Nadu claims ancestry (on wiki at least) from one of the four big dynasties. Can't say that this is any better on the other ones, I've just monitored a lot less on those. I've been trying to get people interested in something like a policy to just add disputed and original research to all these caste articles and keep it on until it passes GA at the least, but no comments to that ever :) Don't know if you saw this Asiagh and WP:Articles for deletion/Asiagh, that's one of the extremes that it can get to, Jat people founded Scandinavia and all that! &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I know a few guys who only looked after their personal articles. One long gone admin said that cleaning up POV was pointless and passing FAC was the guarantee of NPOV. This was in 2006 when cutting and pasting and paraphrasing was FA std, not to mention blogs etc. But yes, a lot of the 2006/07 era people only wrote their oen articles and never butted into anything, except political showboating :(. It shows on all teh geog articles being filled with layers of adverts  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Gavasker was asked what he thought on the decision to bring his son onto bowl against Bangalore. He said that he wouldn't mind facing him, lol — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   03:20, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh where's Boycs to call everything a slog  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I remember him carrying on about Gilchrist during his 172? against Zimbabwe in Hobart in 2003/04. Boy, the Mandela articles misses a lot considering it's at GA! — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   04:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Kochi, India
Came across this at ANI. Two editors warring over content, will make FAR easy pretty soon. I warned both, but I believe both are now socking and doing their preferred reverts (both have a fair block history for the same article). I thought I'd give both a chance and didn't block and instead warned, but apparently my good faith was misplaced. Could you check this socking bit and either perform the bit or let me know? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * , sock of
 * , IP sock of
 * First set, correct plus a few more. Second set, Dewatchdog is Rajithmohan and 192.193s and 199.67s are him  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh, thanks. Rajithmohan is a pretty active editor and I think written an FA or two, so that bit I'd never have guessed, I only assumed that the IP was his sock's IP! cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  05:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Made a start on most of the Southern Stars, especially teh newbies with not many games. Surprised Nitschke never played domestic until 24, and before 26 she took no wickets and averaged about 10  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Saw that, I'll get Mithali Raj ready soon, hopefully Bradjamesbrown will review it, not many seem interested in cricket to review, let alone women's cricket. I was actually surprised that on List of India women ODI cricketers and IP tagged it for updating two days after the series got over, apparently we have at least one active reader for that article! Average views is still pretty bad. Are you following IPL? Decided not to get the package this year just following scores on CI, sick of commentary of "DLF maximum" for six and so on.&mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The views of Perry and Healy spiked big on Feb 21 when they had the W T20 on TV. When Healy messed up and Slater sledged her uncle about it. And Perry took a backtracking diving catch and her ponytail nearly landed on the rope. As for IPL, I commented in the Healy section to AC. I think I'll stop, only saw the opening match. The Indian commentators are especially faithful to Modi's propaganda, they always praise every action as very skillful world-class, even full tosses, wides and crap Indian fielding are not criticised. Even at the toss Gilly and Gangu were praising how amazing the entertainment was, as though it was Olympic level, when it was just a bunch of 20 people dancing on a wooden plank. They have ad breaks in the middle of the over, and the time-out, and catches have their own sponsor now. Even the toss does. Harsha is so horrible with Sunny, just making PC corporate rubbish and saying how great the skill of everything is, including an edged boundary. And it seems to have affected the random hapless Indian who doesn't normally follow cricket per Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Recurring_items they are saying that IPL is better than the WC; half the players are Indian quota players and barely FC standard  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

unblock on hold pending your input
User talk:Dewatchdog. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:10, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The story is up above in the Kochi, India section. I requested CU to confirm the IP socking in the slow edit-war that was going on. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Works for me, I've declined the unblock. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. The name "Dewatcher" ->disruptive editing watcher is a bit of a giveaway as well, people with sanctimonious usernames are usually up to no good  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, I didn't think of that expansion, but looking through the contrib history, it looks to be a "revert only" account. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * He's insisting he's not a sock, while at the same time pretending not to understand what it means... Beeblebrox (talk) 21:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as his comment on the shared IP goes, yeah it is shared but none of the 5/6 guys on that direct hit apart from those two edit India articles, let alone the same city in the same Indian state over and over, using the same computer/browser settings  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

FAR Comment
Hi YellowMonkey! Would you take a look at this comment that I made on a FAR and see if I was too harsh, if you care to comment? If I'm being overly witchy, please tell me and I'll strike... Dana boomer (talk) 22:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, not at all. Actually I wouldn't mind going on a break for a while and you can run FAR. Or so I can bite more on some FARs that I think are way below standard, but if I raised objections I wouldn't be able to close it and Raul and Marskell are a bit too soft for my liking  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think I have the experience/knowledge necessary and want to petition Raul to make me a FAR delegate, I would be more than happy to help out. In any case, having two active delegates at FAR (matching Sandy and Karanacs at FAC) would definitely make things easier on you and make it so that you were free to comment on more FARs if you wished. I think Raul made some good closings last night - I was very happy to see some of those reviews that had been hanging around for a long time closed one way or the other. Dana boomer (talk) 00:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder if that Manila one he removed by accident though. The last year or more, he only closes the ones that other delegates were involved in and can't close, so they ask him directly to shut them down, otherwise he never seems to be doing things off his own bat. I'll ask him about the delegate though  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Epic Star
Hi! Thank you very much for the thoughtful award.--Nvvchar (talk) 05:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)