User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive170

Yet another image question!
Sorry, pestering you about images again. The reviewer of the Hammond GA has pointed out that the image in the article has no source info and has put a tag on it. Fair enough, and I've no info it. As usual, I'm useless with images and have no way of scanning them at the moment. Have you any good images of Hammond that could be used? It looks a bit bare now! --Sarastro1 (talk) 23:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I thought there was one of Hammond in Bodyline on cricinfo that would be PD-Aus, and some on Bodyline Autopsy that you didn't like. There's an iconic one of Hammond cover-driving some Australian spinner which is very famous. They're running a big drive to cut down the GA backlog so it might be a good time to stick out a lot of GANs and get them polished off while the queue is moving a bit more quickly.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I realised this about GAN. I've already had Barber and Hammond passed, while Jardine and Macaulay are being reviewed. Might try and get one more on while the drive is on. Found a decent image on cricinfo, like you said. I'll make sure there is an image before it goes to FA again, it passed GAN without images. The Bodyline Autopsy book has only very grainy images for the most part, and I've still no scanner, even if there were any good ones! --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

FARs
Hi YM! I've been thinking about the two FARCs that have been lingering on the bottom of the pile for a while now. My thought is to close them both as keeps as that is the default option, there is no consensus to delist on either, and they are both seem to be going nowhere quickly. Canada has been at FAR for over six months and Manila for almost four, and they really need something done with them. I'd say to keep them, and if someone wants to bring them back in a couple of months for a clean-slate review, they can. I can't take action on the Canada one, however, as I have commented fairly extensively, and so I need/want your cooperation on this :) Thoughts? Dana boomer (talk) 00:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think another Malleus nag will tell us if the articles really are up to scratch. The main problem with FAR is that the hardcore reviewers stick to FAC and sometimes even a few flagrant rubbish keep votes can trick an unwary delegate, eg check the Ahmedabad pass in 2008 with hacked-up prose and messed up formatting and unsourced stuff everywhere. It can seem a bit pointless to always raise FA standards while old articles are left unaccountable. Hamiltonstone's also bitten on Canada  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Dana's on the right track ... FARs should not be hanging around so long, and if there's no clear consensus on insanely long FARs, they should be closed as a default keep, with a note to the participants about what is expected still in terms of improvements, and a note that a new FAR can be initiated in three months if those issues aren't addressed. FAR will never become active again as long as FARS are dragging on like this; there is no motivation to work there.  Direction is needed from delegates.  Having a less than superb FA hang around a few months longer is less damaging than having the FAR process become so ineffective-- action is needed on those cases-- I support closing them as a default keep.  If they aren't fixed, they'll be back in three months.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 10:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Gimme a couple of days to look at Canada and Manila and I'll comment. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As for disinterest, people just can't be stuffed fixing up other people's work, and you don't get an official star or a WBFAN ranking out of it. If an article gets promoted it gets signposted, or a delist, but nobody gets a mention for fixing up a FA, sometimes completely redoing them. Barnstar and fame incentives are very strong influences on Wikipedia, and there's no fame in cleaning up someone else's shortcomings. Nowadays there are plenty of PC admins who avoid everything of substance and just rely on gimmicks and TV-time on ANI to make political mileage, and this is always increasing; despite the output on WP being steady or decreasing, there are more and more meaningless posts and "leadership" roles being invented so people can claim credit for others' work; similarly for inventing gimmick porcesses/mechanisms so people can create a "legacy" for themselves. Wikipedia is just getting more cynical with more and more people trying to freeload off each other, and trying to maximise their fame/networth with the least amount of work. People are less willing to unglamorous community work (eg copyediting, cleaning out junk, referencing unreferenced articles) but are more willing to engage in exploitationism (leadership gimmicks to take credit for others' work while not actually doing anything) or trying to maximise their article credit/fame (only writing GA/FAs, which get attention, and doing the bare mininum to scrape past and not researching properly because of a lack of content people to pick up missing bits, and then doing nothing at all to improve the article, unless forcibly hauled to FAR). If people say that their articles and totally complete and they never happen across sources that they had missed before, then I don't think their being honest. I don't have a problem with giving direction but a some of the really slow and debated FARs are tactical manoevres in that the authors do a little bit, a few explicit examples to shut the reviewers up and then stop working, even though there were dozens of other cites that were similarly done incorrectly, with noun +ings, or lack of n-dashing, or even mixed Br/Am, and then ignore the 95% of the repeated instances of systematic inconsistencies and go "what? where?" to try and stall the system, to try and induce the reviewer to give up or simply fix it themselves. I could indulge them and repeat the same thing over and over and play cat and mouse, but those guys would then try and force me off and play legal games.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm more inclined to bite on some of the non-trivial non-abandoned FARs now because I think Dana won't entertain filibustering stone-age article owners; I think there were too many of these in the old era including many where chunks of unreferenced information and uneven formatting were all over the place except the owners just caused enough of a riot, or a numbers keep like Ahmedabad. On lots of FARs that I had to process I thought "This would cop 3-4 opposes at FAC from serious reviewers" but none of the indepts were willing to do anything and there were only wikiproject (usually ethnic/nationalist/nation-based) votestack keeps from 100% keep/support SPA reviewers, so I would just keep them open despite 4-0 support and wait for Tony or Malleus to eventually turn up. If I pointed out the obvious the SPA reviewers would make a lot of noise and try to have me disqualified from closing it. That's also why I hardly ever close without FARC even though the sometimes the [fanclub] feedback in general discussion is 100% favourable despite clearly broken prose, and because for whatever reason, the serious reviewers don't come until the closing stages. With a lot of FARCs there is a whole pile of perhaps mock incredulity and mildly histrionic "what?!?!?" each time it gets segmented, but eventually Tony/MF will come and state the obvious after a "urgents nag"  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

If you would like to close the Biman and Dalek FARs, go ahead. I had been thinking about it, especially the Biman one. However, I've been trying to keep my archiving work to Tuesdays and Saturdays, as that is when GimmeBot runs to archive. Perhaps we should work out a schedule something like what Sandy and Karanacs have, where one does any archiving on Tuesday and the other on Saturday? Dana boomer (talk) 12:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be good ... I know it's very frustrating for Gimme that FARs haven't been closing according to his Tuesday night, Saturday night bot runs ... Sandy Georgia (Talk) 15:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Nash FA
Yes, I'm very slowly and painfully getting the article ready for FA candidacy. Considering he was one of the most written about sportsmen in Australia in the 30s, I've still got a lot of material to cover. --Roisterer (talk) 07:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, which quote/typo? --Roisterer (talk) 04:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Aah, that one. That would be my fault. I'll change it now. Thanks for spotting it. --Roisterer (talk) 08:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Viet gian
Hi,

Could you find a source that definitively mention when the concept of "Viet gian" (analogous to Hanjian) first appeared? I could not find any source that places the term earlier than the Viet Minh during the Japanese occupation. This is for the article vi:Việt gian; some users insist that the term had been in use much longer, but couldn't provide sources. My best chance of definitively pinpointing its origin is in this article, but I don't have access to the full text. DHN (talk) 04:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * My library doesn't have it. How are things going on vi? Any new initiatives etc?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  09:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Aransas Bay GA review
I appreciate your review. I will make the changes as soon as possible. --William S. Saturn (talk) 16:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Nuff reviews on the go? Have u seen the tas election result? - what a farce. -- Aaroncrick - 9 April.
 * Yes enough, Could be like Belgium a few years ago when they didn't get a govt for six months or more. Are you still going to finish voting?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I could not find sources for all of the information you requested in the review, but I did fulfill most of your suggestions. --William S. Saturn (talk) 02:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
Hey, just thought I'd ask this since I imagine you'd have a good feel on this. For attempting to get an athlete to FA-status, how much personal life info is seen as necessary? I know there's not a fine line, and you at least need some. For example, some of the articles I'm working on have essentially no early life notes out there. I don't want to waste people's time at FAC, so any suggestions on what to use as a benchmark to separate the GAs and FAs? Or should I just try and go for it anyway? Wizardman Operation Big Bear 23:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well it depends on if you have any printed anywhere. If you don't, then I doubt anyone cares too much. I'm not sure whether people would treat politics/army officers differently but Ton That Dinh and Le Quang Tung don't have anything at all, as American historians aren't going to care about non-professional work matters and they aren't going to do a full biog on a foreign general unless he took power in a coup or something. Keith Johnson (cricket administrator) has very little as well. But if there is a full biog out there, then there should be a heap, or a mini-biog in a compilation book about a team/club then there should be a small paragraph as well. And if this is a player from the old days the personal life can be a bit more important as social expectations were more rigid in those days and race/religion could be a clear factor in how their career turns out.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Just scanned the Baseball FAs/GAs and saw that I had two credits Neil Harvey and Norm O'Neill :P. I would say the bigger problem is why so many articles on old sportspeople in other sports are reliant on cheesy websites (although stats databases are good) whereas cricket FA/GAs on old topics eg Harvey and O'Neill are heavily reliant on famous sports historians writing in books mostly, because if only websites were used the content would be much more stilted and silly/less serious, because web pundits are moronic, generally speaking, and especially news outlets are a bit PC sometimes to not offend fanboy readers. I would just say get lots of books and if there's none there, we're safe, but if only websites are scanned then there could tons of stuff of all types missing. But on the other hand the problem with Wikipedia is that often only people inside the WikiProject know the content in great detail, and some WikiProjects have 100% votestacking records because they are interested in their prestige in the community rather than the reader (or propaganda). I'd say that focusing on the book research is the way to go. WP:AUS hasn't lost an article to FAR for 24 months and I think one of the reasons was that the old articles, even though they had no inline cites all referenced qood books and cites were relatively easy to track; not amateur sites etc which were allowed then, and have now gone dead.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Of course I know to use books and major news sources to use for information as opposed to random online stuff. Granted, many of the people I'm writing about aren't going to have books written about them (save some of the major ones). Best I can do is look for anthology on some of the players that could give me some info, though most of those just concentrate on playing careers, which I'm already covering just fine. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 04:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

GA Nomination for Patrick White (ice hockey)
After a bit of a delay, I finally got around to addressing your concerns in the GA nomination. Look forward to hearing what you think. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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McLaren
Hi, Monkey. It wasn't me that nom'd it, but I note that there doesn't seem to be any feedback at McLaren on the reasons for the GA fail. Could you take the time to at least leave a couple of pointers for those who have been working on it? I'm sure they'd appreciate it. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The review page can be found at Talk:McLaren/GA1. I have now linked it into the failed GAN banner at the top of the talk page, for easier reference. Dana boomer (talk) 17:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ta. 4u1e (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Pitru Paksha
Thanks for the ce. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

CU rises again
Can you confirm if

Have been tag-teaming at Parvati to remove an image of Parvati breastfeeding Ganesha, which they consider offensive! Perhaps DUCK applies, but could be meatpuppets responding to some external campaign. Abecedare (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bingo  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confirmation and the blocks. There a couple of other accounts that may belong to the same user but haven't been used since over 6 months; lets see if they suddenly resurrect. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 06:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Brian Close
Nice idea, but I've nothing at all on Closey except a few paragraphs here and there. Certainly nothing to expand the article enough. A pity, though! --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
And I thought that no-one noticed me beavering away at those BLPs. Dan arndt (talk) 03:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi Yellow Monkey! Long time no discussion. Please help me review Sino-Vietnamese conflicts 1979-1990. Thank you very much for your help.Genghiskhan (talk) 04:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've copyedited it. How are you?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Paracel Islands
Hello YM, Would you please take care of those high school students editing the Paracel Islands article. Thanks.--Trinhbaongoc (talk) 23:29, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

GA Reviews
Need to remember to transclude reviews to talkpage :)  Aaroncrick  TALK 12:34, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought it was automatic  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not for you, it seems?  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Woah, horrible crowd for first IPL match in Nagpur -- looks to be only 15,00 there...  Aaroncrick  TALK 12:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The bigger problem is that they aren't actually watching, because the crowd noise is not correlated to what happens on the field. The commentators don't add any value either  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion discussion: Comparison between roman and han empires
Hello. You are invited to take part in the deletion discussion on the redirect Comparison between roman and han empires. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 01:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Is this article too premature
Someone has recently created the Australian cricket team in England in 2010 article (which was, curiously, originally written in past tense). Given that the tour is going to start in a few weeks I don't any point in nominating it for deletion, but you might be familiar with how to handle these articles. Nick-D (talk) 10:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll do some cleanup  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

List of international cricket centuries at Kensington Oval
Added the prose. What else would reviewers want? — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC) Well, my opinions aren't in line with FLC orthodoxy. Well anyway, many of these centuries came in giant partnerships when both folks made centuries, so it might be good to point them out. The Lawry and Simpson opening stand was 382. The Atksinon/Depeaiza one was 250+?? and it prompted Miller to threaten to biff Johnson because his tactics were rubbish. Some of the other partnerships must have been very large?? The Sarwan/Ramdin one? The Lara 150* that engineered the 1-wicket win might be worth mentioning. Or maybe how many ODIs it took until the first century (not until 1985). As for what reviewers want, well they generally don't really want anything at all  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I see the Eden Gardens one mentions the partnership between Lax and Dravid  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Jagged85
Hello Yellow monkey!! I´m new on wikipedia and I couldn´t help noticing that certain user called Jagged 85 is making some weird edits,and pushing forward many false,bombastic and propagandistic claims in Islam-related articles,mainly centered on science and technology.Some of his lies include:Da Vinci´s mohter was arab,Avicenna invented the thermomter,Avicenna knew about bacteria,telescope was invented by some guy called Taqi ad din,Muslims had advanced heliocentric theories,universities were invented in the muslim world(and doctorates too),thermodinamics were developed in the muslim world,the scalpel,the curette and the forceps were invented by arabs,and the muslim arrival to the americas is not pseudohistory according to him. What can we do about this guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knight1993 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Dbachmann might be interested in a crackdown; maybe Elonka or Durova or Jehochman might, they went after a guy who did pseudohistory on medieval stuff. WP:FTN also may work. In any case, you'll have to talk to Jagged or revert his edits to see what he does, ie, if he backs down or not. Or you could pack all these articles off to WP:AFD if they are based on a nonsensical basis and it isn't worthy of a topic. What articles are you referring to by the way?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The most affected articles are,for example,History of Science,History of Medice,Tiemeline of Historical inventions,Medicien in Medieval Islam,Islamic golden age,all that stuff.And I´m not the first one to have problems with this guy.You just have to go to his talk page and see all the complaints poeple make to him.I mean,he posts incredible lies like Leonardo Da Vincí was arabic,or that Madrasas are universities,or thatmuslims invented the telescope and the thermometer.--Knight1993 (talk) 17:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You could start a WP:RFC or keep on keeping him on his toes and see if he persists and ask for a block at WP:ANI if nothing happens  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

N. T. Rama Rao
HI. Can you put this article on your watchlist? For some reason it attracts ridiculous edits. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 19:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I think he is something of a state hero and as you can imagine attracts all sorts of nonsense. I've copy edited Phumdi BTW and Nvvchar and I have made some considerable improvements as requested. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 11:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Noted. and copyedited  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work. Just goes to show that often two pairs of eyes on an article are needed. Anyway I've contributed to 8 GAs now since my return as Blofeld, mostly Indian articles, so I must be doing something right... Now what part of Vietnam were you working on? Dr. Blofeld       White cat 10:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't been for the last month. I did try and dig up some stuff on some iconic temples eg One Pillar Pagoda and Thien Mu Pagoda but havent gotten anywhere much except some HRW reports about some riots breaking out after teh communists seized the body of the abbot ofthe latter.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Heheh
it must be monday :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The-Pope - I knew either arndt or pope had a dud message - and I got monday on my mind SatuSuro 03:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Bah, you getting an article PR -- well informally, anyway! There's hope for some of us yet :)  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ?!?!? What's this about? oh Miller in 46-47. I replied to the Kensignton oval thing up above if you hadn't noticed  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, valid points.  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * These FACs take too long. And you should nom another FAR :)  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, haven't got time. Why is Australia's history so so brief?  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bite the FAR. No holding back!  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh no, have I missed where it says that aborigines weren't allowed to be counted in the census until 1967. Surely they were previously counted as flora and fauna? I'm thinking this is very notable. Anyway, why in the WW1 bit does it not mention that Australia had the highest casualty rate, per population, of any Allied force? Just from glancing there is heaps of things that could be added, but I don't have the guts to touch a FA.  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, put it on the FAR page or add it in the content. And these old FAs are more like B-class in reality. It's just Ponting in disguise. Else you'll be like the coaches of India too scared to tell gangu that he's fat!  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Nah I get it - one of you bright spaks must have set up the empty section of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack,_Western_Australia SatuSuro 06:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Who was the clever bugger who put the Largest cities in Australia table under the education sub-section? And what's the basis for inclusion for a sports person in the culture section?  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You should get stuck in. We shouldn't be like those fraud projects where head in teh sand and votestacking is the norm. A la Greece and Cyprus giving eah other maximum points in the Eurovision Song Contest every year. And Canberra as well  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Nah obviously not enough trolls working on wp australia articles to keep you busy :) SatuSuro 06:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Pat Cash -- they gotta be joking... I think the list needs some sort of criteria. Warne - yeah; Ponting - no, unless being our most capped cricketer is notable?  Aaroncrick  TALK 07:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

How can New Mexico be close to being passed as a GA? Even has a needs expansion tag!  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:39, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well heaps of crap GAs pass, and heaps of nominal FAs are worse than Bs  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Great Britain at the 1992 Winter Paralympics
Just to let you know I have listed the above GA nominee for Community reassessment. I believe you were somewhat hasty in failing it, particularly in the manner you did and I think this is a better and more open course of action that simply relisting to get a more sympathetic reviewer - Basement12 (T.C) 16:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fine. You are of course entitled to that recourse  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

FAR archiving
YellowMonkey, can we please get on a Tuesday/Saturday archiving schedule in order to help out Gimmetrow and his bot? I really don't care if you take Tuesdays or Saturdays - either one works for me. Dana boomer (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I can do Tuesday, ie Wednesday morning UTC? but it doesn't kill the bot if it's another day does it?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Gimme archives at 00:00 Wednesday and Sunday, so keeps/delists need to be done before 23:59 Tuesday and Saturday. It doesn't kill the bot if it's done another day, but it makes it less confusing for editors who may attempt to edit a FAR/FARC that has been closed but not yet archived. This is where the use of the new template comes in, as well, although it's always possible that people may not see it. A set archiving schedule would also help people know when they should expect action from us, and it won't hurt articles to sit open for another couple of days if we archive them on a Saturday instead of a Thursday (for example). Dana boomer (talk) 02:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Greetings!
I'm currently updating the WikiProject Australia/Participants page and you're listed under "Unsorted partipants". If you could update your listing and place your name under the proper location heading, along with some info about yourself and the contributions you've made, that would be great! Thanks much! --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Done  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:49, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Classic - this one is definitely the sort of user/editor who would break a sort function just by listing his name :) SatuSuro 01:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, YellowMonkey! SatuSuro, stop being funny. --Funandtrvl (talk) 15:09, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

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