User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive176

Abuse of rollback
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Your arguments, wrong data and inconsistencies are a waste of time. And it's not an abuse of rollback to revert 50+ rpt copyvios  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you read the conclusions of that discussion? Colonies Chris (talk) 07:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you so much for the quite unexpected barnstar. :) - JuneGloom07    Talk?  21:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

AWOL!
Still around, but moving house at the moment. No internet until next week at the earliest, so I've no time to do very much except little bits at work, like now! Can't do anything at weekends. Once the chaos subsides, should be back to normal soon. Best I can do is keep an eye on the stuff I've got going. --Sarastro1 (talk) 07:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Roy Kilner stuff. --Sarastro1 (talk) 07:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, castle being upgraded! :) Unfortunately, the barbarian hordes have sacked parts of it, so it's keeping me quite busy. --Sarastro1 (talk) 07:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Uqahr
Since he/she has been editing around the articles where you've been editing, I thought that you should you know that I've blocked them as a sockpuppet. The 122.104.x.x IPs are also them.

I thought this was really funny though especially since this is what this person mainly does.  E lockid  ( Talk ) 12:47, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, a lot of subcontinentals with broken English fancy their skills a lot. He isn't anything unusual  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Xenobot/R
, but I was still confused as to why you've decided auto-stub=no and given you an example where this would've reduced the size of the unassessed category. – xeno talk 13:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Old unblock on hold...
Can you check out: User talk:Tommy Nero Sullivan. Its been on hold for a month and should probably be resolved. -- Jayron  32  00:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yers, I already answered  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Can you point me to your answer, or restate it, since I am apparently to stupid to find it.  -- Jayron  32  02:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's Bnguyen  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

odd edits
Looking at some of your recent rollbacks, I'm confused by why you did them. For example, this appears to be a good-faith edit using AWB. There are many more, some not from that specific user. I'm not totally fluent in policy, but even if it was against some odd quirk in MOS, I think you should have used undo. Of course, you may have your reasons, but I would like to know, because it has piqued my interest. Griffinofwales (talk) 02:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The explanation is a few sections above you and I gave a manual one in my first revert  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, but don't the edits fully diacriticise (don't know what else to call it) the article? Looking at one example, the name (at the beginning, in bold) is already in diacritics, and the edits seemed to cover the entirea rticle. Even then, WP:RBK doesn't mention reverting for MOS reasons. While I completely understand why you did it (large undo jobs are annoying, I often go the easy route also [not on enWP]), on a controversial edit, I don't think you should have done it (especially considering that the reason seemed flawed), since much of the edit was correct (although very minor changes). Griffinofwales (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No, only some of the Viet words were diacrticised by the AWB  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at some other contribs, this is another example where some policy probably says that it's not allowed, but it's not really vandalism. Griffinofwales (talk) 02:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a mass copyvio, and it would waste about another hour filling them all in. I already filled in the first few manually after that the pattern is obvious  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Common sense is needed for issues like this. However, I'm sure will pull you up for it one day, too.  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What does Bidg do?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Using rollback.  Aaroncrick  TALK 07:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Email
Hi, I emailed you last night. Would appreciate if you can get back to me asap. TQ, Bejinhan  Talk   03:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Done OK  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Gia Long
Why did you revert my changes? Colonies Chris (talk) 19:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Because partial diacritics creates an inconsistency  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * In all the articles were you have reverted me, there was already an inconsistent use of diacritics. My edits were a step toward making them more consistent by at least using diacritics wherever the corresponding article's title has those diacritics. And I also made a lot of other minor improvements to these articles, which your unthinking reverts have just thrown away. I will reinstate these changes. If you're so bothered about consistency, I suggest you decide whether the titles of Vietnam-related articles should have the diacritics or not, and make them consistent with each other, rather than just rejecting wholesale a good-faith attempt (and a lot of time) put into improving these articles.
 * And I see you did all this using rollback. This is a misuse of the rollback facility, as well as being highly discourteous. You might want to read Help:Reverting, from where this quote comes:


 * Rolling back a good-faith edit, without explanation, may be misinterpreted as "I think your edit was no better than vandalism and reverting it doesn't need an explanation". Some editors are sensitive to such perceived slights; if you use the rollback feature other than for vandalism (for example, because undo is impractical due to the large page size), it is courteous to leave an explanation on the article's talk page or on the talk page of the user, whose edit(s) you have reverted.

Colonies Chris (talk) 12:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No your edits did not decrease the inconsistency, as diacritics were only used in the bolded part or infobox to give the intricate detail if people want it. Unthinking? Yes, your pattern edits  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hye Bln, I need your admin help on Playback singer. Two users, and  (I actuallly suspect it is the same person), keep adding names to a list of Pakistani singers without sources at all. I required sources from them but they just ignored my warnings and kept reverting. Now I warned both of them with a last warning and made some copyediting and clean up to the list that was mentioned there. I was again reverted. Could you please help me with this? Thanks, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  07:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Direct hit. Blocked  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  08:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  16:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

UnclePaco
Hi. Are you still doing checkuser cases nowadays? On a few occasions several years ago, you had checkusered for socks of (, see also prior checkuser case, another checkuser case). There is a request at Sockpuppet investigations/UnclePaco regarding a new suspected sock -. Based on contributions, I think it's more than a slam dunk. I have made some comments at the case page and on my user talk page. The best evidence is that CashRules began his WikiCareer by reverting back to a then-20-month old version of Dominicans Don't Play that just so happens to have belonged to UnclePaco's self-admitted IP. Either CashRules is incredibly unlucky or a sock. Would you be able to look at Sockpuppet investigations/UnclePaco and see if checkuser evidence can offer anything? I know that UnclePaco's known socks are all stale by now, but maybe the user could be compared to UnclePaco's known IPs? Thanks, --B (talk) 13:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to admit I have severe trouble remembering anything about CU cases that aren't about racial/religious editing wars, as those are always the most "exciting" although also depressing  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Aint no barnstar big enough
Strongly agree!  Aaroncrick  TALK 01:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed.--Grahame (talk) 01:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou very much gentlemen  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Yen Bai Province
Hullo. Bout time the province articles were written properly, even if the districts are not being expanded... See User:Nvvchar/sandbox. Could you help us write a decent article? Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Coming. Hopefully we can get a decnet source that is actually RS. I see the Yen Bai mutiny has already been plonked in there.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lisa Sthalekar
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ellyse Perry
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sarah Elliott
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Murali Kartik hook
Thanks! The zoom is pretty decent, especially at Taunton where we have such a small ground. The shot was less a hook and more a tennis style smash, this is the following photo. It made the members raise their eyebrows.

Really good work with the Australian women by the way, I had a peruse through a fair few of them, and was shocked by how many you've managed to get to a decent standard now. You going for GT on the 2010 World T20 squad?  Harrias  talk 06:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, my camera doesn't zoom much and things worse than 20m are pretty bad. I should archive the current poll and set up the NSW/SA men poll. I more or less just did the articles to get them long so that there would be space to use more of the photos, without thinking about article drives or clusters. But yeah, with the 14 used in the Rose Bowl, the only two not at the T20 WC were Ebsary and Andrews, replaced by Villani and Clea Smith. You're up early today! I'll probably be up late hoping for a miracle in South Africa. Not likely to occur though  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Had to be in work for half 8, so I tend to have a quick look around first thing. Will still be in work for the football later, although I'm not too bothered after England's last two matches! Let me know if any cricketers you want pics of pop up in England, and I'll do my best!  Harrias  talk 07:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't make requests as I assume that people will take a photo of everything that isn't already there, or is there, but of bad quality  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  08:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I try my best.. sometimes I get distraced by the cricket and forget to take photos though! Boring games on the other hand.. photos galore!  Harrias  talk  08:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

New message
Hello Bin, I have come to ask a favor from you. For the past couple of months, I have been working on Kareena Kapoor's article in my sandbox. After a long and exhausting schedule of editing, I have finally managed to finish, and I am planning on nominating the article for a FAC. However, before doing so, I am looking for a couple of editors that can help me with copyediting the article. Would you be able to help me with this? --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 05:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Grr for FAC karma. I'll have a look  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I suspect there will be alot of hackles raised about Rediff and Bollywood Hungama. Rediff usually has really bad English and it also has a lot of cricket gossip, and everyone I know says that if only Rediff is reporting it, then it is "bakwaas" and personally I agree. Nowadays they ask you about the source reliability a lot and WP:WIAFA has been strengthened to say "high quality" RS. I see Bollywood Hungama also has an office etc, but I'm not convinced. I think you should ask who normally checks the sources as I don't think those two are any good, and if a better newspaper can be found instead, then good. Also in your sources sometimes you use the Newspaper title and others in the timesofindia.com fmt, which is inconsistent  YellowMonkey   ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait... I'm confused. What do you mean by the last part "you use the Newspaper title and others in the timesofindia.com fmt, which is inconsistent"? --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 17:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I meant Indiantimes <--> times of India and using Rediff.com and boxoffice.com and then putting the rest in a non-dotcomism way. Also, my concerns about large-scale Rediff and Bollywood Hungama stand  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket! ) 03:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * TOI & Indiatimes are two different sources. As for Rediff, we have the WP article labelled as "Rediff.com" - that is why I labelled them like that. If you want me to change BoxOffice India.com to BoxOffice India then I can do that but I didn't think that was a big deal. --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 03:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in here (this has crossed my talk page and another one on my watchlist!), I just wondered if you;d thought about taking it to WP:PR first- that tends to be a good way to weed out the potential issues and the blows are a bit softer than at FAC which, in my experience, is the only thing comparable to RfA in terms of brutality! HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   03:41, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rice production in Vietnam
 — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Champa pages are legible. I will start reading the book after I finsih the 11 artciles which we are jointly doing. I am presently in USA on a holiday and will be able to attend to wiki article writing sporadically.-- <span style="color:#fef;background:	#191970;">N.V.V. Char     Talk. 06:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Diacritics in Vietnam-related articles
There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Vietnam that you may wish to to contribute to. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:10, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

1984 ghallooghaaraa
You deleted the article 1984 ghallooghaaraa which another administrator had closed as no consensus, with the summary explanation of "‎ (at least two of the keeps were socks of banned users, thus adjusting the AFD result)". Shouldn't the closing administrator have been the one to make that call? And what of the cases of the other keeps that were not socks?  D r e a m Focus  20:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The consensus speaks for itself and a look at the article shows that it is a farce there anyway. Almost all the keep votes were sectarian.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:24, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for 1984 ghallooghaaraa
An editor has asked for a deletion review of 1984 ghallooghaaraa. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.  D r e a m Focus  08:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Greg Norman... or Karrie Webb?
Saw your reversion of Greg Norman in Australia - fair enough - how about we add Karrie Webb, seven majors, most successful Australian female golfer, European tour Rookie of the Year etc? hamiltonstone (talk) 02:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. hamiltonstone (talk) 02:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

good decision
semi-protecting India article. -- Car Tick  10:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Check user
Could you point me to the CU case for DawnOfTheBlood? I'm not finding it, but I'm guessing I'm not looking in the right place. Thanks, Hobit (talk) 04:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There never was formal SPI page, I just CUed him and he's Singh6  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  05:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Given that one account stopped editing well before the other started, I don't think this can be called a case of socking. I've also raised the issue of blocking without a formal SPI or even putting a note on the sockmaster's page on the CU talk page.  I don't know a lot about CU stuff, but something feels very odd here.  It looks like you've taken two out-of-process administrative actions (solo block for what looks like a non-blockable offense, deleting an article after the AfD closed) with respect to a topic and person you've had significant dealings with before. I suspect I'm missing something, but this seems odd.  Hobit (talk) 13:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * DOTB turned up and triple-voted on the AfD with two IPs, which is I blocked him and cut off Singh6's account once and for all. The CU in 2008 was a request here on the talk page from another user, you can look in my archives. I had not been in conflict with Singh6 and his army except to execute a CU request from him  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

If you want, you can personally clerk the CU requests on my talk page  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

NP
Hey YM, do you mind looking at ? <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Where are the other votes you promised lol  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I kind of procrastinated a little and for some reason summer makes me procrastinate more. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 02:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It sure sounds like him.--Wikireader41 (talk) 14:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

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Is wiki sure about this now?
Is wikipedia administration sure now about Striving4 being Tennis Expert? I know administrator The Rambling Man was researching the checkuser id to make sure himself but I never heard one way or the other. I ask in case he ever removes the banner that others in the group can quickly restore it and that Striving4 was also using the handle Striving4Truth. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I did a CU  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Sigh
Good stuff on the FARs! :) An article in the paper about Aurora Stadium says how $35 million has been spent re-developing the venue, instead of $23 million. I don't know where that came from? Not a typo because an alderman is also quoted as saying it. I guess an extra $7 million for the new stand but that only adds up to $30 million. *sigh*... Wasted a lot of money building useless size stands, and I hear there's now plans to demolish them to make way for a 25,000 all-seater venues. Pathetic planning as always.  Aaroncrick   TALK 05:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the aerial images

 * Thanks. I was surprised that no other people take photos out of airplane window seats (especially those who make frequent Wikimedia-funded jaunts). Unfortunately there was a very grubby patch on the outside layer in the middle, resulting in a powdery white effect on some of the images. I have to cut up some of the bits over Cronulla and Parramatta as well! Unforutnately my enthusiasm uisn't matched by skill either, per the action photos right above you.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:41, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I never seem to have time/motivation to set the focus to manual and make sure it's not going to get the window of the plane instead. Anyway, I'm due to fly to warmer parts of the world on Friday so might have a crack at it from the back window if I can. Thanks for the motivation :) Donama (talk) 07:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Yikes! File:Oakden.jpg. Either you are Superman or the yellow monkey is getting up to his usual mischief and is flying on a microlight?  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:00, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Don't you love the greenery :)  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * More like yellow grass  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol; I know. When did you go to Sydney?  Aaroncrick  TALK 00:28, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Passed through last year  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)