User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive184

FAC
Plz not another 48 article up next. Miller must be feeling lonely ;)  Aaroncrick  TALK 01:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, this one on Barnes now has an objection that it cannot be understood, so maybe never again lol :(  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  02:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * But that's understandable and the standards keep rising. I know myself, I'm over the 48 articles, so I'm sure the non-sport reviewers would be, too  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I should copyedit those history articles that are ready...or polish off some main bios eg Lindwall or Hassett or just some others like woodfull or o'neill....My strategic reserve is dwindling :P :( .... I should have entered the WikiCup to motivate me to focus on writing more new FAs instead of saving them... No points for devil or emu or anyone else :(. just kidding :P  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  06:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The Bios are the most interesting. And you should get points for FAR saves - especially with substantial expansions. Well, you have a huge load of bios (which i cant wait for at FAC) - just they have ridiculously long leads. I dunno what happened to the Aus captain drive. I'm barely editing atm, a bit sick of wiki.  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:10, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'll ever finish s waugh, taylor, border, simpson or any of those Vietnamese heads of state/govt, which are even less likely as I always get diverted into subarticles on coups and the like .... Mattinbgn hasn't been writing anymore... its just Yorkshire and Somerset all the way nowadays  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  06:23, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't you thing you'll finish 'em? Too long, too much effort? Hughes isn't too far away from GAN, surely...  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:25, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

indent It might be worth trying to have a push on improving articles in WikiProject Cricket/Key biographies or something next year: not necessarily to GA/FA, but a lot of them could do with a lot of work, and it would be a more global task. Problem with the Invincibles and the Aus captains, is that as an Englishman, I'm not all that bothered about them to be completely honest! I write about Somerset for obvious reasons, but I'd be happy to improve articles on other topics (a lot on women's cricket, particularly South Africa, for no good reason). So a project push on the key bios might attract attention. Of course, there's not many people really about in the project, so it may well fall completely flat, I don't know. Anyway, the reason I came over here in the first place was to ask if you could email me the batting graphs template file thing please?  Harrias  talk 21:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Why doesn't the project target a specific player and pick of the article section by section?  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Need to get Ponting up,. REgardless of anything in Tests I still think aus will get to WC fnial next yr, gilly was tfa for the final last time. Do you want a copy of the graph template? sent anyway  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  06:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, might as well. I'm stuck with what to do with Ponting - already huge.  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You have to email me first so I have your address as the Wikimail doesn't allow attachments to go along directly  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  02:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Sent  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  00:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha, Hauritz is disgusting atm! I swear he helped Sachin to 14,000 runs then floated up a couple for tendulkar to hit a couple of sixes to reach his century. George is a try-hard, too.  Aaroncrick  TALK 05:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Haven't being paying attention, Australia doing real bad in Delhi too... George never seemed very impressive when I saw him bowl in person. Put up a non-sport FAC, per your request for no more 48s  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  06:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Very good crowd in Bangaluru - finally. I know, though I don't have a clue about your war veterans.  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Put up Macca at FAC - more Yorkshire, I'm afraid! :) I can't be much help with Nguyen Chanh Thi, but let me know if it's lonely and I'll have a look. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem with Yorkshire. For maximum efficiency, people stick to their area of training. Just need another few hands for Surrey, etc. As for Vietnamese articles, they always languish for 4 weeks  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  03:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Surprised at the mentioned languishing, I decided to do a full review, on the basis of supporting i18n and globalising the wikipedia. Fifelfoo (talk) 04:23, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Australia's strength in cricket
I see that the info box at Australia national cricket team does not reflect Australia's current match results record and "strength". I would edit the box but I am not sure that emphasising Australia's fifth place test ranking would have "consensus". Silent Billy (talk) 22:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * heh  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  00:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Peer Review
Please give some additional advice / clarification in the above review. Thanks. Farawayman (talk) 19:38, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  01:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Blocked editor
I am the editor whom you blocked for 2 weeks. I had appealed to you to reconsider your action, which I had considered unwarranted. You did not do so, nor did you justify your action, except with a cryptic "block for POV and troll".

It is my opinion that you misused your administrative privileges in blocking me. I have seeked help with the help me tag on how I could proceed with your blocking me. However before that I assume that you acted in accordance with Wikipedia conventions and rules in handing the block and so I request you to kindly explain and justify your actions. Nothing personal here all this is for the betterment of Wikipedia. (I hope that your reply is in detail, quoting the exact statements that you consider justify your action, with necessary comments for explanation. I wish you go through the very short list of articles which I have started and contributed in a major way, which will give an idea of the type of my contribution to wikipedia.)Yogesh Khandke (talk) 09:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I am bringing to your notice one comment generated by your action

Thank god for that (add his talk page to your watch list and you'll see it). Hopefully his 2 week block will give our newer friend User:Zuggernaut some food for thought too on what happens when you behave like this.
 * I did reply to your email  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  01:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Where? When? Please share the link. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 18:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Emails don't have a URL  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  23:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Blocked editor humbly requests explanations
Nothing personal administrator all for the good of Wikipedia about which all of us are so passionate. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The two emails landed in this editor's spam folder. You could simply have written a message on this editor's talk page. Now that has complicated the issue a little. Thankfully they were not deleted automatically as is done with messages in the spam folder and so were found by this editor. Both are dated 2010-10-02 around 3.00 pm and were retrieved only a while ago, after about 3 weeks.
 * 2) First message sent by you - Why are you fighting in such an inflammatory way? you have to stop
 * 3) Second message sent by you - If you want an unblock. No taunting, etc.
 * 4) Administrator you have rushed to block an editor for in your opinion pov and troll.
 * 5) When the editor requested you to reconsider the block, you have responded with emails to which you did not receive a response.
 * 6) You did not bother to use other means of communications such as writing a message on the blocked editor’s talk page or place a talkback tag, after a lack of response from the blocked editor.
 * 7) Surely you are aware that a blocked editor has as many options open for communication as a gagged cat.
 * 8) On the editor's part he waited for a response from you, and also let time pass so that his reactions would grow out of the natural impulsive nature it would have, as a result of the block. On receiving no communication from you the blocked editor decided to sit out the block, and look at the matter after his editing privileges were restored.
 * 9) The aggrieved editor would like to bring to your attention what Jimbo Wales wrote "Remember what we are doing here. We are building a free encyclopedia for every single person on the planet. We are trying to do it in an atmosphere of fun, love, and respect for others. We try to be kind to others, thoughtful in our actions, and professional in our approach to our responsibilities."
 * 10) Could you administrator kindly explain how your actions build an atmosphere of fun, love and respect for others
 * 11) Could you administrator kindly explain how your actions are thoughtful
 * 12) Could you administrator kindly explain how your actions demonstrate that you are professional in your approach to your responsibilities.
 * 13) This editor wishes to bring to your attention the following recommendations about accountability for administrators "Administrators are accountable for their actions involving administrator tools, and unexplained administrator actions can demoralize other editors who lack such tools. Subject only to the bounds of civility, avoiding personal attacks, and reasonable good faith, editors are free to question or to criticize administrator actions. Administrators are expected to respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrator actions and to justify them when needed.
 * 14) Thus administrator the editor's request to you to justify your action was a very natural response to the action you had taken.
 * 15) Please take notice of the following recommendations regarding blocking "Blocking is a serious matter. Administrators should be exceedingly careful when blocking. Blocks should be made only if other means are not likely to be effective; prior discussion or warnings should generally precede all blocks. Blocks should be used only to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, and if there could be any reasonable doubt about whether a block is appropriate, other administrators and/or the community should be consulted. Following a block, the blocked editor should be notified of the block on their talk page, and additional notification on site may be appropriate to seek community input."
 * 16) What other means administrator did you consider before implementing the block?
 * 17) What made you administrator decide that these means would not likely to be effective?
 * 18) Did you administrator discuss before blocking?
 * 19) Did you administrator issue warnings?
 * 20) Did you administrator demonstrate that the editor's actions were disruptive and damaging to Wikipedia?
 * 21) Did you administrator consult other administrators before enforcing the block?
 * 22) What actions have you administrator taken when an editor taunted another editor following your block with the words "Thank god for that (add his talk page to your watch list and you'll see it). Hopefully his 2 week block will give our newer friend User:Zuggernaut some food for thought too on what happens when you behave like this."? Especially since you administrator consider taunting a serious offence deserving a block.
 * 23) Kindly administrator explain your actions in detail please point by point.

Hi YellowMonkey. I met Yogesh at Talk:Nazi Germany recently and saw the block in his history. I am under the impression that there was no warning (at least on-wiki, I see you sent him an email) and that the block length was excessive. I think I have never seen two weeks for a number of borderline disruptive talk page comments before. Maybe I have seen a 1-day block for that, after a stern on-wiki warning. (On-wiki is important because some users use a separate email account for Wikipedia and don't read that regularly.) Now Yogesh has an entry in his block log, and one that looks a lot worse than it was. Or did I miss something?

I told Yogesh to notify me if the block comes up later, and he has just left a message on my talk page. I did not advise him to write so much text. :) Hans Adler 19:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The root cause of this situation is a highly vocal cabal of editors (see WP:Cabals are evil) at British Empire who have a strong POV and want to spread that POV throughout Wikipedia. Zuggernaut (talk) 23:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * User:YogeshKandke hasnt been in the best of his behaviour. a sample of his comments Freedom at midnight, is a muck raising book that indulges in sensationalism, written by a pair of white - Christian imperialistic lackies. --CarTick 15:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Yogesh Khandke (talk) 04:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Why is the above post not signed. Please some one own up for it. Where are all the bots gone? The edit history has been checked it is CarTick (talk)
 * 2) Please do not digress from the issue.
 * 3) The present issue in not whether the present editor deserved the block, but whether proper procedure was followed in enforcing it. Whether the block or its duration was justified is another matter and will be taken up later.
 * 4) No digression please.
 * 5) Isn't the administrator required to follow proper procedure, before initiating action?
 * 6) Please participants on either side of the debate, be to the point.
 * Hans, a clarification is necessary here. Both the emails were sent after the block was enforced. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This administrator has allegedly indulged in disruptive edits and used abusive language Not an ancient case but fresh off the oven. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * you know, people sometimes forget to sign. you are not helping yourself. --CarTick 15:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Please define taunt Administrator? I am glad you were blocked, you utterly deserved it.
 * 2) CarTick's time stamp is wrong for the previous comment, the the comment was made earlier and the time stamp inserted later, just for the record. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 19:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Notice of discussion
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 * Gee, can barely remember only one sock there after reading again  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  01:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

100,000 edits!!

 * Err thanks, I hadn't been keeping up to speed. That counts deleted edits though I think.  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  23:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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ANI
You are currently the subject of an ANI thread, located here. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 07:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Featured article review/To Autumn/archive1
I have listed To Autumn for FAR, but even I have some issues that a couple of users may be trying to add in OR, removing cited material, and replacing scholarly academic sources with sources of much lower quality (e.g. Sparksnotes). If all that needs to be reverted, there would be a fight over it; in either case, the article is looking at a delisting from FA as a result, because if it stays as it is right now, it would fail 1(c) as is. Regards, –MuZemike 01:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Noted  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  01:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Bosie
I'll have another look at Thi later today, just popping in for now. Took a fancy to Bosie for some reason, but it's taken a while. More interesting than I thought he'd be. Does anyone still call it the Bosie? --Sarastro1 (talk) 07:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well McHarg still uses "bosie" when talking about Tiger; but it seems he uses other synonyms when talkiung about other dude  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  23:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fixes on Macca! I'll have a look at the FAC later this week (might be the weekend). --Sarastro1 (talk) 07:35, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Slight delay on review, will get to before middle of the week. --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

The Featured Article Barnstar

 * Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 07:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  03:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hill 303 FAC
The issue of sourcing on the Hill 303 FAC has been explored by Fifelfoo and as a result I have removed or cross referenced all instances of two sources with questionable reliability, but the rest have been determined to be reliable. Please take a look and see if this addresses your concerns on the FAC. Thanks! — Ed! (talk) 16:54, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  03:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

FARs
Hi YM! Could you please revisit your comments at the British Empire and The Catlins FARs? I think your concerns have been dealt with in both cases. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 19:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

DRV of an article you deleted...
Sad to say that it doesn't appear anyone has notified you of this discussion. Please pop in and comment. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 05:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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ITN
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Requests for comment/2010 ArbCom election voting procedure
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Use of flag icons
YellowMonkey, I thought you might want to weigh in on this topic: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Swimming. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Taare Zameen Par
Hey. I think I have addressed your FAC concerns. Thanks. Ω pho  is  15:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

1962 Ton Son Nhut Air Base Photo
Have updated the page for Tsn-1962.jpg. The caveat is that posted that photo in 2006 from a microfilm reel I no longer own. Moved very quickly in May 2007 and a lot of my boxes of "stuff" were left at my old address. Am pretty sure that was the reel obtained from the AFHRA, as it discusses the airport construction and expansion for USAF use in the early 1960s. Regards, Bwmoll3 (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  01:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Do Mau
Could you please check if this edit is correct? I wasn't sure if it was sourced or not, and it is related to this OTRS ticket. NW ( Talk ) 22:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The info about the bus ticket is indeed in the Shaplen page as before. What did the ticket say? I assume some family/friend complained about the sentence?  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  23:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You wouldn't be that far off with that assumption. I have self reverted. NW ( Talk ) 23:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism etc
Hello Yellow, I've been reverting some vandalism and unacceptable references from an anonymous editor and recently registered user. They follow a similar pattern. Can you please take a look and possibly fashion an appropriate response. Special:Contributions/Truthforadelaide and Special:Contributions/121.91.65.118. Thanks Ozdaren (talk) 14:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked and protected  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  01:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Ozdaren (talk) 11:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Addition to FAR instructions - exceptions for extreme cases

 * Addition to FAR instructions - exceptions for extreme cases - please discuss at WT:FAR. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 08:59, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Update: Got some good positive feedback about this at WT:FAR, will defer to community discussion about it. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 16:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

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It's raining thanks spam!

 * Please pardon the intrusion. This tin of thanks spam is offered to everyone who commented or !voted (Support, Oppose or Neutral) on my recent RfA. I appreciate the fact that you care enough about the encyclopedia and its community to participate in this forum.
 * There are a host of processes that further need community support, including content review (WP:GAN, WP:PR, WP:FAC, and WP:FAR). You can also consider becoming a Wikipedia Ambassador. If you have the requisite experience and knowledge, consider running for admin yourself!
 * If you have any further comments, input or questions, please do feel free to drop a line to me on my talk page. I am open to all discussion. Thanks &bull; Ling.Nut (talk) 02:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)