User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive21

Indian nationalism
Its getting positively nasty over there. User:Kennethtennyson vandalized the page here and blanked his own talk page. He also threatened me with a block (even tho he's not an admin) and  he's being incivil.
 * Blocked for 3RR anyway. Blnguyen | rant-line 22:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Possible incivility

 * Is this comment acceptable? If you have the time, could you handle the matter? I'm sorry you have to keep intervening on India-related matters all the time.Shiva&#39;s Trident 06:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Mihir Bose
2002 is the second edition. The first was in 1990. Tintin (talk) 07:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK

 * And I learned a new word "bellwether". If it's not a bellwether, please change.  My learning curve tends to be steep.  Cheers, and thanks for the contribution -- Samir   धर्म 08:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't you ever get tired of these...?
Many more to come! --Srikeit (Talk 19:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

JPD's RfA
Hi Blnguyen. Sorry to not reply earlier - I had quite a good day nowhere near a computer yesterday. I would be happy to have an RfA. I would be honoured if you would write a nomination up, although I am sure it could not be as flattering as some of the others you have written! JPD (talk) 11:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Coming.Blnguyen | rant-line 01:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank, Blnguyen. You sure do a lot of research with these nominations, so it's no wonder you're close to clocking up 1000 supports! JPD (talk) 13:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Re this. You have far too much time on your hands. You also have email. -- I@n 10:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Blnguyen. Your 10th RfA nom finished at 94/1/0, which I hope is a fitting conclusion to your first 100 days as admin! I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me, especially with such a wonderful nomination convincing a lot of people! JPD (talk) 15:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Analyse my edits
Hello! I hope you are doing fine. I would like to humbly ask you to analyse critically and without any reservations about the edits I made for the past one or two weeks. Please inform me about the areas which I need to improve. Your comments would be deeply appreciated as well. Hope that you can help. You could also refer this message to other admins that you think could help me as well. In this way, I would be having the different opinions from various admins. Thank you for your kind attention! (Note:You can do this whenever you are free or feel like it, so take as much time as you want! No need to rush!) I have also started using image tags as well for a better understanding of image policy on untagged images. -- S iva1979 Talk to me  21:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC) In progress. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 22:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

 * It goes without saying that any more photos of the computer monkey would be amazing =). Thanks a lot for everything alpha Chimp  laudare 05:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

user:Netscott
Hi Blnguyen, you blocked User:Netscott recently for one week for persistent 3RR violations. Unfortunately, an editor who was involved in the content dispute on Netscott's side unblocked him and reduced the block to 24 hours. Netscott has spent the last few days doing almost nothing but troll regarding the same issue, and it has now gotten out of hand. I can't take admin action myself as I'm involved in the dispute. Would you please take a look at the situation and consider reinstating your block? WP:AN/I. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. It's probably best to keep it centralized on AN/I. The only reason I didn't bring up the block shortening before is that the admin who unblocked said he had discussed it with you. This is no longer about the shortening in itself, but about the further trolling that has taken place, which is among the worst I've seen on Wikipedia, so it's best to put it on AN/I. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * ''Hi again. Actually, Bastique discussed it on IRC with Pschemp and a few other admins, unblocked, and then notified me on my talk page, then I went to IRC, was shown the parts of the conversation, and didn't wheel war because I've already had my "serving" so to speak and there was a consensus to not do so, although I am still puzzled that 5++ 3RR blocks only incur 1 day. JoshuaZ and Bakasuprman thought the block was OK though. Unfortunately, it was never disclosed to me that Bastique had himself edited the article in question. Thanks again, Blnguyen | rant-line 03:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Would you please look at the situation again and reconsider? SlimVirgin (talk) 03:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * ''Hello again. I'm a bit confused about the last response. In the previous post I was referring to the fact that I wouldn't wheel-war with the others last Friday over the 3RR block, but regarding this new matter described at ANI I will definitely look into it (if I gave the impression that I wasn't going to). Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 03:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I appreciate that. It's literally intolerable. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Bastique
Yes, of course User:Bastique was involved in the same edit warring, on the side of Netscott; see this and this for example, and compare them with this earlier edit by Netscott. Yet even after edit-warring on Netscott's side, he still unblocked him and re-blocked him for a shorter period. Jayjg (talk) 03:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Funny how it's edit-warring when you disagree with Jayjg, but it's "contributions" when you agree with him. Also funny how I notice people are talking about me only by reading Wikipedia Review.  Thanks for being a friend.  Bastique &#09660; parler voir 21:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks like a big battle has erupted at ANI. I'm rather disappointed you didn't tell me of your conflict of interest.

Parthiv Patel
>> He is a left-handed batsman and is of a very short stature of 160cm.

What is the source for his height ? I had been looking around for this without success. Ramnath Parkar (5' 3") is the shortest Indian cricketer among those who played before 1980, and since then Patel is the only one of a similar height. It is possible that Patel grew up a few centimeters since his debut in 2002 so it is imporant to know when this came out.

I have done a rough article for Polly Umrigar but have been sitting on it for the last three weeks. Tintin (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello Tintin. Hmm, it was broadcasted by a commentator, so it may not be very accurate.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The Voice
Not sure what you meant when you mentioned the source, but the problem is that the paragraph read quite POV. I am especially disturbed by the notion that the Ireland's wins were "out of touch" - I remember that this kind of music was very popular at that time, and Irish flutes were absolutely everywhere. Katrina's winning song in 1997 isn't that different, actually, and Ireland still came strong second.

Secondly, not every country did a televote in 1997, it was a gradual process. I believe there were quite many reasons for the inclusion of televote, so this hypothesis, even sourced, seems quite suspicious to me - perhaps somebody really didn't like the Irish songs (I mean, I don't either, but I don't think it's the right way to pursue one's agenda). I guess the only reliable source would be one officially linked to the ESC or EBU - for example, there are official sources stating that some countries skipped one contest in the 70s because they were dissatisified with the four-way tie. If there is an OFFICIAL source saying that televoting was introduced because of the dissatisfaction with Ireland's fourth win, this can be included (though I believe the song's article is not the right place to do do, it would be better if the general Eurovision article and the 1997 Contest one said that). But by no means should the expression of somebody's dislike of a musical genre have place in any article.

Regards, Bravada, talk - 23:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I love the Irish ballad. Bring back juries and Johnny Logan. Blnguyen | rant-line 03:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm, how about I publish a book and say that Ruslana won because she was wearing no underwear (this was a very widespread rumor among detractors), as I really hated her winning over the fabulous Lena Philipsson (if you'd ask me, Brian Kennedys and Johnny Logan should perish without a trace but Melodifestivalen artists should be worshipped daily). Even if he calls his book "official history", he is no EBU, or no national broadcaster. I guess as every author he is trying to add "flavor" to his story. I see that the (featured, after all) Eurovision article quotes the same book when saying that the 1997 was the first year of televoting, but all else is skipped. I would say we should follow this good example. Regards, Bravada, talk - 00:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * HOpefully, I have now reworded it in a more concrete manner.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup, much better, I might have some gripes about the "frivolous" style, it is just as it should be regarding the inclusion of info. Thanks! Bravada, talk - 10:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Hey again. Could you please move Exchange of populations between Greece and Turkey to Population exchange between Greece and Turkey? The reason for the move is only grammar, so I don't think it's controversial enough to go through the whole WP:RM process. Thanks! &mdash; Khoikhoi 00:27, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. :) &mdash; Khoikhoi 00:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Woo hoo! Nice article -- Samir  धर्म 01:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice work Blnguyen. I got a DYK tag also but won't be claiming it as mine! -- I@n 01:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I also purchased a cancelled library copy yesterday of the "A-Z of Australian cricketers" which should increase productivity, for 20c (15c US). Also I had to fix the tagline as Samir removed the adjective "Australian" which was necessary as Craig was not the youngest of all countries. Amazingly Brian Booth was unexpanded whilst on the DYK queue and was featured in the stub version without anybody noticing for six hours!Blnguyen | rant-line 03:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:Indian martial arts
Hi Blnguyen - I request that you have a look this article and its talkpage. User:JFD is consistently breaking WP:CIVIL and WP:NPOV and now is making false accusations. It baffles me that this fellow dragged my name into the dispute when I've never edited this article or interacted with him.

He's been warned several times, so I don't think my hollering will do any good. I request that you please keep an eye on this person and the problems on Talk:Indian martial arts. Rama's arrow 18:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Apparently he's clarified that his intention was not to attack me. Sorry for the mixup. Cheers, Rama's arrow  18:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes but sadly Ramas arrow and I are the holders of the leash, and Subhash bose and Freedom skies are still gremlins if we AGF on the comment made here . Bakaman Bakatalk 18:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I feel obligated to point out that the use of the word "gremlin" was Freedom skies',, not mine. JFD 14:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi blnguyen, user JFD is actually not uncivil... the other user(s) have had a serious issue with POV and a serious issue with being uncivil on the page Indian martial arts... look at the last discussion and the archives and the wonderful headliners... basically, the article before JFD and i intervened stated that India was the birthplace of all martial arts, it stated taht the british were the cause of the downfall of indian martial arts, and it quoted the birth of martial arts from a generic sanskrit term for wrestling... without any citations of any article... i have tried to place disputed tags on the article in the past but user Freedom skies then removes them and denies that the dispute is ongoing... Kennethtennyson 22:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * regardless, you recently blocked me for 3R on the article indian nationalism... just wanted to explain myself. I was merely attempting to leave disputed tags on an article that was blocked prior to this and remains in dispute... the problem with these tags for disputed articles and POV articles is that the people writing them are POV and thus tend to move the tags off the article... and then deny the existence of the dispute... wikipedia should have a policy where someone who is a member for at least 6 months can place the tag for 12 hours and if it is placed, it cannot be removed for 12 hours by anyone except the person placing the tag.  Kennethtennyson 22:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

IP edits
I just reverted the edits by an IP to your userpage. It seemed he was just blanking a section without reason. I assume there was no reason for this? Michael 01:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Image question
Can you point me in the direction of the discussion of whether the thumbnail images from The Hindu's online archive from before 1950 are fair use or not? I cant seem to remember why it was decided they werent. They seem perfectly acceptable to me, legally. Hornplease 08:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Doesn't it depend on India's copyright laws?Bakaman Bakatalk 14:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Not really sure at this stage. Blnguyen | rant-line 22:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Never mind. I'll ask around elsewhere. Incidentally, I would like to mildly object to the closing of the afd on Vindhyachal House, though, in which you merely said that sockpuppets never prosper or something. There may have been a couple of socks there, but I think a few important points about notability were being raised -by more than one established user, incl myself - and should hsve been addressed by the closing admin or through relisting. Hornplease 07:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Subhash bose
He got blocked for combatting vandals on Atal Behari Vajpayee. All I can say is, the only good admins on wiki are: You, Gizza, and Ragib.21:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bakasuprman (talk • contribs)
 * Hangon, I'll look.Blnguyen | rant-line 22:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Blnguyen, Do we accept such categorisation of Admins on WP.TerryJ-Ho 19:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I never said specifically anything of other admins. They could be "Semi-good, great, mediocre, Awesome, unknown" etc.Bakaman Bakatalk 03:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:
Which warning did you have issue with? Bakaman Bakatalk 23:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

You may want to look at the WP:PAIN board for a pending case.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The last warning was issued for this. The warning is totally warranted there.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:09, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

If by "all over" you mean two (issued for the nonsense), NPA then yes. The NPA was because he deleted my comment here then put unwarranted warnings on my user page  and here .Bakaman Bakatalk  23:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Talk About Spyro
The previous version was under Talk about spyro, which was G3'd. Not sure if it's a repost or not, which is why I placed the tag there. The editor has been reported to ANI for having a history of vandalism. --Core des at talk. ^_^ 00:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Belgaum
I suggest advice the same to the other users too.Dont ignore his harsh words against me.mahawiki 02:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Block
Thanks for blocking that user. Michael 02:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Sure! I'll start in about 10 minutes -- Samir धर्म 03:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the contributions, as always -- Samir धर्म 04:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think song titles are in quotes by the MOS, sorry for the change -- Samir धर्म 04:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't want to spam
I don't want to spam anybody. Simply I've detected it takes a lot of effort to get an answer from an admin so I'm asking to several of them. Hagiographer 08:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Indophilia?
You seem to be highly interested in India (as evidenced by your many edits etc.). May I ask, out of interest, why you have such Indophilia? This isn't an attack or anything, just curiosity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.246.96.6 (talk • contribs)
 * Not sure really...cricket is just cricket really. I just find the diversity of languages and religions quite amazing, especially with so many minority groups being allowed to occupy positions of high power, which is also rather unusual. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 23:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I am troubled by recent developments
I noticed that both Netaji and Holywarrior have been blocked. While I'll talk about Netaji later, I am troubled by Holywarrior's constant defiance to admin authority. Here, in the diff I provide, he has stated that he will ignore admin warnings and continue to vandalize the articles. I believe that his sentence should be extended for threatening vandalism so that he may have some more time to cool off and contribute meaningfully to wikipedia. Please let me know what you think.

diff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AHolywarrior&diff=73732800&oldid=73729633

Regards,

Hkelkar 11:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll notify the blocking admin. Thanks, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 23:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Editor Review
I can't quite figure out what the instructions at WP:ER are after - do I create a subpage in Wikipedia-space or in User-space to get myself reviewed? BigHaz Schreit mich an 11:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 23:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Requesting clarification of Wikipedia defamation policy
Hkelkar construes this comment by me as an act of defamation.

If it is, then I will humbly submit to whatever punishment is appropriate.

If it is not, then please tell Hkelkar to cease from engaging in frivolous harassment.

Thank you. JFD 13:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Well the tone of the comment is sarcastic and unhelpful whilst discussing touchy topics. I didn't feel that it was defamatory, as these are usually when you make comments which besmirch the integrity or character of a person, or claim that they did something which they didn't etc. Here you are expressing your opinions on the work done by a historian, saying that you think it is non- serious. Also BLP is to prevent slanderous claims being put on the article, rather than people voicing their opinions on the talk page, although to be sure, it's better not to make potentially inflammatory comments on talk pages either. Thanks, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 23:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

It was a cheap joke. I guess this means I should stay away from the entry on William Crotch. JFD 23:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:Chacor
Please don't interfere with an ongoing user conflict. That was exactly what Chacor did. He, unfortunately, interfered with another ongoing user conflict with Ral315. What I did to him I could do to you.--Edtalk c E  15:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Is that a threat to niggle me? Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 23:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Please don't act angry in response to comments left on your talk page. It is very important to keep a cool head.--Edtalk c E  23:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Enjoy!--Edtalk c E  00:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin decision on France in the Eurovision Song Contest 2006
You admin decision for the Articles for deletion/France in the Eurovision Song Contest 2006 appears at first glance to be a conflict. I am coming first for you to explain here to be courteous. You are a member of the WikiProject Eurovision. You are in a group that does almost daily Eurovision nominations on WP:DYK. You made this decision just days after receiving your adminship. Please reply this situation here on your talk page. I am not challenging the decision/outcome/your counting ability, but something procedural seems wrong at first glance. Royalbroil 03:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, there was a conflict of interest there although I did not create those things myself. However the RfA started before the AfD and I was approached by about 10 different editors to run in the month before that as well. I have since undertaken a policy of not closing any Eurovision AfDs - I could have blocked User:Stanfordandson on Articles for deletion/Du Bist, but chose not to. Having said that, if you see my userpage for my contrib list, I have written some 100+ articles on swimming, and maybe 20 on cricket, but I am still relentless in deleting nn cricket and swim clubs - pls see User:Blnguyen/AfD. So there is an issue there, yes, although I see people closing AfDs on religious/political things when they have edited analogous stuff also. Since the songs are at the same level as the xxx in ESC year, then it isn't obvious so I would abstain from doing so. In this case, seeing as the deletion was clearly in the minority, I don't think it remotely came close to being a factor, but I've avoided doing as such ever since. Thanks, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 03:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I read your comments several times, and I don't completely understand. I'll paraphrase what I'm guessing that you mean. I think you mean that you are refraining from making admin decisions on article types that you have been a contributor on (such as Eurovision, cricket, and swim clubs)? And that it was a single decision that you have avoided since? If so, then I think "Let bygones be bygones". Royalbroil 03:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Help
Hey can you help? I seem to have messed up this disambiguation page. Ron Smith (coach) Thanks --Hack 04:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)--Hack 03:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that... Found you on the Australian administrators template - you had the most recent edit so I figured you were online...--Hack 04:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Category:Australian administrators --Hack 04:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I meant category... --Hack 04:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you could do me another favor...
This user, edited re username change Coppertwig (talk) 03:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC), keeps coming to me because new users keep harassing him on his talk page. I just another one of them a few minutes ago. Could you please semi-protect his talk page? He seems to be getting tired of it. Thanks. &mdash; Khoikhoi 04:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks again. &mdash; Khoikhoi 04:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

You opinion on sourcing RE: David Jeremiah
Could you visit the David Jeremiah article and give me your opinion on something? I'm looking for an unbiased 3rd party opinion about sourcing. Please see the talk on the AfD page and the discussion on the David Jeremiah page. Thank you Bagginator 07:31, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Freakofnurture
I'm sorry I had to curse, but a man died! A man died! And this Freakofnurture comes along and disrespects the dead and his grieving family. --66.218.23.122 23:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I did? Diffs please. — freak([ talk]) 04:24, Sep. 5, 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Bint Jbeil
Thanks for the protection. Soon you'll probably get yelled at by one of the involved. Ah, such is the life of an admin :) . RyanG e rbil10 (Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 00:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Good start to the 100th day of sysop.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm...
I've taken a bit of time to think about your block quite carefully, and as a result, I had the inclination to unblock. There's a bit of detail here if you would like to see. Now, there might be a chance that there is something I am not aware of, so if you feel necessary to reblock again, please feel free to do so. --HappyCamper 07:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK - ???
Blnguyen, are you sure this is what you wanted to do? You have just selected two closely related ones on McPherson and then one on the German actress you have left on the talk page with comments. Cheers, Bravada, talk - 08:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup, but I am still concerned about the McPherson Robertson thingies - those are two DYKes about the very same person! Bravada, talk - 08:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Vande Mataram
Pls see Vande mataram. User Sarvagnya is deleting referenced information. He has already deleted it 3 times now.Bharatveer 09:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

You Are Mistaken
Sorry, but I did not edit anything to do with Knox Grammer School. So before you acuse anyone of vandalism, get your facts right. Thankyou
 * You are probably using a shared IP. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Ping pong (band)
I've moved this page to PingPong (band), which is in line with the Diggiloo Thrush spelling of the name (unusual capitalisation, but one of the more unusual bands to grace the stage anyway). BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Diploma mills
I'm back and I plan on doing some cleaning up of the mills including removing the lesser known/unsourced ones. Also another has started a pretty good article on the mills if you want to help. Arbusto 23:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Speedying against a DRV-mandated XfD
I realize that the page will be deleted anyway, but would you please undelete Blocked users with bizarre usernames for the sake of process?

When something was just undeleted by the DRV to be run through an XfD, re-speedying it is a direct violation of consensus that it go through full process. Needless to say, violations of consensus should be avoided by admins. --tjstrf 00:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Expediting an proposed policy is not a valid reason to overturn consensus that a page be put through the standard procedures. The idea that a proposed policy could override consensus is absurd. --tjstrf 00:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, there was a consensus to have a debate, and it appears that people want it deleted, and it has been done so. It appears that those who were at DRV don't appear to want it kept either. The quicker this vandal monument is gone, the better. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 00:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * There was consensus to have the debate. Which you just overruled by deleting the article out of process. Additionally, since when are proposed guidelines CSD's? --tjstrf 01:35, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't deleted it out of process, I stated my reasoning on the page in public with reference to a deletion debate. If 20 people have time to argue then it isn't that quick? I feel that the negatives are far smaller than having a vandal monument perserved for a few days. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)