User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive3

Thanks for your Keep vote - Bhai Makhan Shah
Hi,

Many thanks for your very positive and constructive comments. I will start making changes as soon as I have fought off the vultures!! --Hari Singh 06:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Blnguyen, thanks for your vote to keep this article and your kind words – and as you said correctly, Bhai Makhan Shah is an important person in Sikh history. That is why I think that the initial reaction by the "moderators" was wrong – A little more consideration need to given to the value of the article rather than the contents, which can be easily amended. It is as if we asked for article on PM Tony Blair to be deleted because you do not agree with the style of the contents. To me that does not make any sense. The correct route would be to ask for a 'cleanup' of the article and not to delete it.
 * I have no idea of who these various people who voted and left comments are. I have only judged them by what they have said in reaction to things that I have posted on the site. You may be totally right about them. But my judgement is based entirely on this one incident which, in my opinion was initially tackled incorrectly.

I also totally accept what you say about the workload and everyone's daily commitment to people and things that we love – You are completely right about that. Also the fact that you get huge amounts of total rubbish – As an administrator on Sikhiwiki we too face a tiny bit of that. I sympathise with you guys because the volume sound out-of-this-world. I am on your side with this. However, the only thing I ask is that we should all act
 * Righteously – we may have to act in haste but we must not act in error or be responsible for an injustice of any kind to anyone!


 * In a war, you may have to kill hundreds of your enemy, but if you kill one of your own, that is not right - Is it?


 * I agree with you that this is a debate and things have gone the right way in the end. But the initial reaction was totally wrong and some of the remarks made were blatantly incorrect and unsustainable. - "… a fictional story", "smells of original research or a school project", "the text is a Sikh story taken from this website", "WP:NOT a book publisher", etc are comments which to me are meaningless; give no idea to the author of what steps to take and of no real value at all.


 * Many thanks for your time and I hope you have a great time in sunny Australia. --Hari Singh 04:07, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I write to thank and commend you for your thoughtful response to the Shah AfD and for your appropriate suggestions to the article's creator on his talk page, which suggestions I have echoed there. I thought I ought to leave a message here lest my comments on the AfD page should prove insufficient to establish that never was my nomination driven by religious or personal animus; I think you will well understand the reasons for which I nominated the article for deletion (and for which sundry other posters ostensibly thought the article to merit deletion), as well as the reasons for which I readily recognize that tagging the article for sourcing, Wikifying, and cleanup might be better. In any case, these sorts of discussions are what AfD is for, I think; just yesterday, I wrote to defend an AfD on which I had voted keep against a suggestion that the nomination was vandalism per se, and I think my words may now apply to me as well. Cordially, Joe 06:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Caulfield Grammar alumni
Have you got references for this edit? I'm 99.9% sure that Phillipousis and Klim both went to Wesley College, Melbourne. This is what is written both at the school's article and on Associated Public Schools of Victoria. I'd like to hear your reply. Thanks. Harr o 5 07:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry Harro5. I got a bit confused/forgetful. One of my old schoolmates went to Wesley College for a while and told me about it, but I got the schools mixed up. I've been around I while so I hope you'll trust that it wasn't a purposefully mischievous edit.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I know you're one of our best Melbourne-based editors, and I was just making sure I hadn't missed picking up that Klim is one of ours (Caulfield's, that is). Anyway, thanks for straightening that one up. I'll go back to processing the results from the Our Games onto the various pages. See you round! Harr o 5 07:25, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've been a lifelong Adelaidean actually. My schoolmate went to Melbourne for a stint and then returned. It's just that I've stuck a whole pile of council and LGA templates all over all of the WP:MELB suburbs because they were missing (in line with Adelaide and Sydney). I'll get back to updating the Aussie swim bios with their cg results. Cheers, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin offer
Thanks for the offer! With my recent edits focusing more on the project namespace, I now feel confident in taking up the responsibility. I am slightly against self-nomming however, which was why I didn't do it myself. Unless you know at least one other person has belief in you, then you shouldn't try it I reckon.


 * Btw, I've noticed you support India in cricket and are part of the Indian Cinema project. On your userpage you mentioned that you have no connection to India. I am just curious, then how did you become interested in the great nation?  G i zza Chat  &#169; 07:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Just noticing, currently the page is over 32kb. You might want to archive some of the discussions when you have the time.  G i zza Chat  &#169; 04:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Libby Lenton
Re comment on User talk:Thayvian: Oh no! I didn't think to look at the edit history. I thought it was a bit strange that there was so little info there, but Wikipedia was a bit patchy on Aussie swimming last I looked, so I didn't question it. Thayvian 01:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's heaps better now ;) Keep up the good work. Thayvian 01:16, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree
He seems intent upon making controversial statements & then pulling ot long drawn arguments about those edits, arguing on techncalities. NPOV isnt just a set of hard rules, but a more subtle nuance. And due to this we are spending more time arguing than contributing. Something definitely needs to be done. What do you suggest?

Thanks

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  ) '' 01:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

(P.S A welcome to Esperanza from me too!)


 * Damn man! I thought we will be able to maintain the NPOV of Dravid's article. But whats got to be done, has got to be done.


 * [[Image:Flag of India.svg|20px]]Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  ) '' 01:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. My apologies for the Second Innings. That was a mistake. I have removed that. I did not realise the wrong filter used for the second innings till it was pointed out.

And I honestly do not understand one thing. can some one explain this to me. When sachin's failures are quoted from Wisden, that stays for a long time without any one editing that. When the fact Sachin scored 1 run is quoted, it also stays. But when the fact Sachin was the top scorer is stated, that becomes a controversy. Honestly, I am against arguments, but I am not understanding the base behind retaining the failures and removing the high scoresDoctor Bruno 02:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello
Hello TeaDrinker - You used to be Hansnesse right? Because some of the Hansnesse posts on my talk page are now credited to TeaDrinker in the history. Are you going to redirect Hansnesse to Teadrinker??Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 05:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well spotted. My intent with the name change was to disassociate my editing with my name, after noting that one persistant vandal (PinkTulips, also known as Amorrow, and a variety of IPs) was collecting personal details about editors he disliked on his website.  Although I have not been targeted by PinkTulips, I figured it was preferable to make it a bit harder to track me down for like-minded people.  I do watch my talkpage, so I can get messages there.  A smarter thing to do, I suspect, would have simply registered under a different name. --TeaDrinker 06:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The bio I was thinking of was on Mindspillage, at the bottom of the page, who originally blocked him. It is not particularly for this site that I was worried; it just alerted me to the potential problem.  An ordinary vandal could find me on google quite easily (knowing my name).


 * Morrow was blocked, as near as I can tell, with no arbcom ruling (which is not what my initial impression was, if you have read the discussion at User_talk:Hansnesse). There was a discussion on admin noticeboard.

Greg Sheridan
It's good to see another reader of The Australian! I'm against biased political speculation - which is what a large portion of the article does in an effort to discredit Sheridan - so I've made a few changes. That said, it probably still needs some cleanup. I assume this is what you wanted me to have a look at, feel free to clarify with me otherwise.

Hope you're 'enjoying' your study too! ;)

michael talk 06:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me further of the issue, and good on you for your non-partisan activity on all this! I've made some changes to Greg Sheridan and voiced some thoughts on the Christianity in Australia talk page. I've been keeping well aware of the Darren Ray issue, it's beyond a joke that someone has the idea that they can use wikipedia as their own personal spin machine. Have a good one, michael talk 05:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:swimming
Yeah, thanks for your support on my RfA! Anyway, I'm kinda busy right now outside of WP, but I would be glad to help you out on the portal or if you start a Swimming WikiProject, I'd help there, too; I'm just short on time and can't devote a heck of a lot of it ☺. It seems like a great idea to make a WikiProject, because even if there isn't that much convention debate, there may be in the future so it'd be nice to have one now. Drop me a message any time you need help or want my opinion on something; I'd be more than willing to help. Good luck! → &ensp; J @  red &ensp; talk  +  ubx &ensp; 01:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Islam/Christianity in Australia
I have been observing this most of the time for a bit of time now, but when someone creates an article and stacks it with negative and irrelevent POV, I do not appreciate it and (to the detriment of my time) I get involved in full scale reversions. Xtra 02:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
, thank you you so much for supporting my RfA, which passed successfully 49/6/3. I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken people's suggestions to heart. I will do my best to live up to people's expectations. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please feel free to let me know! Thanks again for your much appreciated support.

¡Dustimagic! ( T / C ) 06:00, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

AfD - Party entertainment
I thought you would like to know the article that you proposed for deletion (x2) Party entertainment is now at AfD Articles for deletion/Party entertainment.--Blue520 07:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Examinations
TeaDrinker. All the best with your studies. I too will probably have to slow down in May-July as I prepare to finalize my research proposal and defend it (if necessary) in front of representatives of the Australian Research Council. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 00:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and good luck with your exams as well. It sounds like your research is fairly far along.  Cheers, --TeaDrinker 18:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

tbeatty RfA
Thanks for you help. You listed my statistics but not what is necessary (except 2000 edit, 3 months). What are the other average stats?--Tbeatty 05:30, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

FLC
Looks much better now, I'll fix table widths sometime tonight so you can see and learn from the changes. Best. -- Run e Welsh | &tau;&alpha;&lambda;&kappa; 13:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks For the recomendation, I will withdraw my request Betacommand 21:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Portals
I think the general principle is to link to the portal only from pages which include a link from the portal (deos that make sense?). I'm sure this is not a hard and fast rule, but seems to be generally applied with the cricket portal.

I had a quick look at Swimming World Swimmers of the Year and it looks good. My view on featured lists is that they shouldn't be a simple reformatting of info from the primary source. The Wisden list admittedly doesn't do this, but I suspect FL standards have raised a lot since then. Additional info like (for example) each swimmers main event or records held or perhaps a comment about swimmers who've won more that once would add to the usefulness significantly. Good stuff though -- Ian &equiv; talk 02:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * No more quality control than any other article, but showcase articles should be a representative list of good articles which together paint a picture of what the portal is all about. (Jguk set most of this up prior to it being moved to the portal namespace - which he was instrumental in getting created BTW). You wouldn't want to just have cricketers in there for example. It has players, grounds, rules, records, history, competitions. -- Ian &equiv; talk 03:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Swimmers
Have a look at User:Ianbrown/Sandbox2 as a suggestion. Fell free to use or ignore as you like. -- Ian &equiv; talk 03:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Swimming at the 1960 Summer Olympics
You're welcome. Btw, is there any special reason why you don't use the wikimarkup and class="wikitable" for tables (like this)? It makes both the code and the output look a bit cleaner. Conscious 05:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Conspiracy of Silence on AfD
Hi -- At your convenience, please take another look at the article and/or the AfD; it was on my cleanup list for a long time and seeing it on AfD prompted me to do the rewrite that I think should be able to save the article. Thanks, MCB 05:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Portal:Swimming
Actually, I first noticed it on Ian's talk page but followed the links from your user page. --cj | talk 07:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

DaGizza's RfA


Hi, thank you for supporting me in my RfA which passed with a tally of (93/1/2). If you need any help or wish discuss something, you are always welcome to talk to me. GizzaChat  &#169; 09:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Ute Geweniger
I announced your new article (as a stub) at Portal:Germany/New article announcements. If you write about other German swimmers, please add your article there. Thank you, and happy editing! Kusma (討論) 06:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You are fast! Thanks for the other stub - I have sorted it to the date of creation (and clarified the instructions). Kusma (討論) 06:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice list! I fixed Anke Möhring. Unfortunately she also lacks a German Wikipedia entry. And yes, I am still interested - I added my name to that list myself and bolded it after my 5,000th edit :-) Kusma (討論) 06:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Mortlock Library
Sorry for taking so long to reply to your message on my talk page; real life got in the way (I am writing this in a different hemisphere from when I read your message). To recap, you asked what the title of the book was that may have mentioned which SANFL club former SA Premier Lionel Hill played for during the early part of the 20th century. I had a search through the SLSA library catalogue but couldn't find anything that looked like the book I mentioned. IIRC, the book was a slim, self published tome listing the players to have represented SA. I hope this is of assistance but if not, then don't stress.

Cheers. --Roisterer 08:04, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

FLC
I presume you mean something like this? But why not leave as one cell with two names which I think would look neater -- Ian &equiv; talk 08:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I left a formatting tip there for you also... -- Ian &equiv; talk 08:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much...
...for the barnstar and the RfA nomination :-) Unfortunately I have some urgent mathematics to do right now, so it will take a couple of hours until I answer the questions and officially accept. All the best, Kusma (討論) 00:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Urgent mathematics. That's always the excuse.  Facetiousness aside, excellent nomination; upon Kusma's acceptance, I'll be happy to add my support.  Joe 00:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have accepted now. My maths and answering the questions took a little longer than I thought. Thanks again for your nice nomination statement, Kusma (討論) 06:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: FLC
I sent a message to each of the people who voted oppose alerting them of the fact that most of the red links are gone. I gave the choice back to them whether to go and de-strike it or to add a "support" below their stricken oppose vote. Thanks for your concern, though! → &ensp; J @  red &ensp; talk  +  ubx &ensp; 02:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess you're right. I left them unstricken, but I also responded to the nasty comment that my reverter left me. ☺ → &ensp; J  @  red &ensp; talk  +  <sub style="color:#DC260C;">ubx &ensp; 03:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the RFA monitoring tip. I always was interested in keeping an eye on the RFA nominations/voting but could never do it. Now doing it is a piece of cake.

Thanks again

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  ) '' 17:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

(P.S I think archiving of your talk page is long overdue. I took nearly 45 seconds for the page to load on my slow dial-up connection!)

My (HereToHelp’s) RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA. I’m proud to inform you that it passed with 75 support to 1 oppose to 2 neutral. I promise to make some great edits in the future (with edit summaries!) and use these powers to do all that I can to help. After all, that’s what I’m here for! (You didn’t think I could send a thank you note without a bad joke, could I?) --HereToHelp 13:17, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thomas Lurz
I just added this bad stub on one of your missing swimmers - unfortunately the German article didn't have more info than this. All the best, Kusma (討論) 04:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Much better now - thanks! Kusma (討論) 05:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Re:Australian Maths Comp
I recall 2003 and 2004 as having the same format as the 2002, where they had the marking scheme of 3 marks for first ten, 4 for the next ten, then for the last ten 8 if you got it correct, 3 if you didn't attempt it, and 0 for you got it wrong. Is Sydney Grammar well known even in Adelaide? I'm so flattered! <b style="color:teal;">Gizza</b><sup style="color:teal;">Chat  <b style="color:teal;">&#169;</b> 08:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I did the 2003 one in year 12 - I believe that used the same scheme as in 2002. I don't know about the 2004 one though. enochlau (talk) 04:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. --CBDunkerson 15:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Eurovision contestants
I'm not sure. I don't really like the term "contestants". :/ Esteffect 18:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

India in Pakistan
Sorry about that. Reverted my edit now. I got it confused with the England one. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 23:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Re:Munaf Patel
I'm sorry if I'm wrong but I think have put it as 48 balls in both articles where I have added Munaf Patel.

Thanks

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  ) '' 02:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem, I too point out mistakes of others & after clicking the "save" button realise my mistake & thunk myself on the head!

Thanks

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  ) '' 02:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Swimming World Swimmers of the Year
Cool, I support it.Ausswim 02:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

AfD
I'd like to state for the record, that I take offense to your implication that I want to see cruft in Wikipedia. If you'll note my voting history, it's evident that I mercilessly smash down against cruft, and by my own admission I'm a deletionist. I'd appreciate it in the future if you a) did not publicly judge me without attempting to get to know me; and b) rescind your statement and replace it with something more appropriate to your vote. &rArr;   SWAT Jester     Ready    Aim    Fire!  07:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, i've replied, etc, a misunderstanding of your reasoning.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: AMC
Hello, nice work on the AMC article!

I remember the scoring was the same from 2002 til 2004. I'll try to detail them in chronological order, but I'm a bit unsure of the years.

system 1 1-10 3 points each 11-20 4 points each 21-30 5 points each start with 30 points and get a quarter of the possible score of each wrong question deducted.

system 2 1-10 3 points each 11-20 4 points each 21-30 8 points each correct, 3 points unanswered and 0 points for incorrect response.

system 3 1-10 3 points each 11-20 4 points each 21-30 5 points each

I hope that's right... I'm just doing this from memory. JSIN 08:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm afraid that it was too many years ago. I don't remember the scoring system. Sorry about that :( Kewpid 08:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

AfD
I think you mistakenly put "keep" on this afd. In the edit summary you put "Del" and in the comment you say "drunkcruft". --Jersey Devil 13:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Screenshots..
Er, not low quality TV-taken images. :p I took an on-PC screenshot for them. I don't think a screenshot of a TV screen would be acceptable. Esteffect 21:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the well-wishes. :) -- Nataly a 03:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof
Everything looks good to me. I'll add you to the list right away, and I'll try to notify you once a download becomes available. If everything goes well, I should have it ready on Sunday, so check back if you don't hear from me. AmiDaniel (Talk) 03:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Buckeye80
Thanks for the info. I've indef blocked this account, and noted on the RFA. — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  04:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Category:Rowers at the 1896 Summer Olympics
Hi Blnguyen! I was going through the 1896 Olympic competitor categories checking to see how many had been added to the Albert Baumann deletion nomination, and noticed there was a Category:Rowers at the 1896 Summer Olympics, which you created back in February. However, there were no rowing events during those Olympic Games, so I was somewhat curious about why there was such a category. Is there something I'm missing, or am I right in thinking that that is going to be a permanently empty category?

By the way, thanks for the support in the Albert Baumann and Lecomte deletions. Happy editing! -- Jonel | Speak 10:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

05:10, 6 April 2006 Blnguyen m (moved User NEWnavut to Template:User NEWnavut: should be a template)
I'm curious. What was the reason for your move "05:10, 6 April 2006 Blnguyen m (moved User NEWnavut to Template:User NEWnavut: should be a template)". It looks like an ordinary user page, not a template. --John Nagle 05:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a userbox template so that people can quote its title, and the box will appear on the userpage, for example see Template: User WikiProject Eurovision.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 05:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

PROD
Where did you hear that anonymous users can't remove prods ? WP:PROD says "If anyone removes Template:Prod from an article for any reason, don't place it back. If the template was removed and replaced, the article will not be deleted."--not if a registered user removes a prod don't place it back. NickelShoe (Talk) 18:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Portal:Swimming
Not enough to be involved in a wikiproject, I don't think. I don't have access to good enough sources to do that (not to mention I'm involved in too much already). Thanks for noticing, however! Sam Vimes 10:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)