User talk:YellowMonkey/Archive98

Hi My friend Yellow monkey
Hi My friend Yellow monkey, pleased to meet you. Thank you for reverting the vandalism on the Jat people page.

The Jat people page has been under heavy anon vandal attack. The Sikh article (I also worked on the Sikh article last year) was under similar anon heavy vandal attack last year but a administrator semi protected the page indefinitely and us editors were able to create a very nice article. Please can you semi-protect the Jat people indefinitely so we can do similar job of producing a very good article without these constant vandal attacks.

Many anon users have been vandalising the article including the following user who keep on vandalised the article by adding uncited info. Here are the separate occasions:


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=250150102
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=249391904
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=249324466
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=249170946
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=249170820
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=249106294
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=248718489
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=248601778
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=248392048
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=248182938
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=245434438
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=244989711
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jat_people&diff=prev&oldid=244120140

He has been warned and blocked on many occasions but still continues, blocking him has no affect. He just changes ip:


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3A24.185.128.31
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:24.185.128.31

The only long-term solution is a similar one to the one done by an admin on the Sikh article Semi-protect indefinitely this allow users to build a nice article without it being destroyed by anon vandals. Once the vandal disruption is gone someone can ask for un-protection. Please can you help us out here. Thanks.--Peter johnson4 (talk) 07:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I ended up semi-protecting the article for 1 month. It's gone as long as 3 months in the past, and twice over the last year, so we might want to look at indef-protection in some form. As I noted to Peter, I'm hesitant to do that if other options exist, but this is one I stumbled into - I don't see the angles yet. FYI, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 16:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Bln! I think my account finally works. Thanks for referring me to WP:VPT.

Now, I'm almost sure, but would like to confirm. ,, - the same person?

And finally,. He keeps adding unsourced films on Bollywood films and plagiarism claiming he's seen the films and therefore no sources needed (huh?). I've warned him twice and tried to explain him that every new entry must be sourced. He says: "I am putting entries for films I have watched myself... There is no way to prove beyond doubt. No one has the right to delete another's entries. If you do so we will revise revert back your changes."

Best regards, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  09:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The top three are all the same yes.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! '') 00:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

PDF books
Hello, I looked at some discussion and saw you mentioned having those pdf books of McLeod and Chapuis. Can i have a copy of them? my email address is nguyentatdat@yahoo.com, thank you very much.
 * Are you 96.229 who hangs out on Djwilms' talk page?  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 07:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You'll need a gmail or something. I got a message that Yahoo's inbox isn't big enough or doesn't take large attachments.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 07:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hedley Howarth
I have undone this edit that you reverted on Hedley Howarth. Hedley never captained NZ but his brother Geoff did, for 30 Tests. Therefore the edit by (a relation?) was correct. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 07:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Noted, thanks,  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

User and talk page seems to be fixed.
I just fixed a move made by User:Jazzmand who moved your user and talkpage to I am an Asshole but I have since reverted to how it should be and have reported them to AN/I. Bidgee (talk) 11:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

You have got
Email.—  Ѕandahl  ♥  02:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Faith Leech and Sandra Morgan
Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to do a full prose review of both later. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

re Barnstar
Thank you very much! What an unexpected and delightful pleasure! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 03:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Please semi-protect Schlieffen Plan
Schlieffen Plan is mainly vandalism and reverts so please semi-protect it when you have a moment. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 08:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! Nunquam Dormio (talk) 16:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Thich Quang Duc.gif listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Thich Quang Duc.gif, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted.  Ja Ga  talk 03:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, don't need that copy.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Key bios
Sorry about the comments which I've restored. I am working my way through these and intending to update the comments as it is some time since your review. I think a single table is preferable to put the names in order, although I've been a little lazy and sorted them by first name only. Please feel free to add more names as I've basically considered only those in the importance=high category. ---BlackJack | talk page 05:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*sigh*
Hello dear friend!

is back at his track. He's moved the Salman Khan article to Sallu, as well as the Saif Ali Khan, the Soha Ali Khan, the Sharmila Tagore articles to ridiculous names... This will now create silly redirects upon reversal which will have to be deleted again.

He had done that many times in the past, he had been blocked several times (once by you as I see). As you have confirmed, both and  are his sock puppets. I think it's about time to block the accounts, when it's obvious that all he does is vandalism.

Regards, Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Blocked both and a few IPs for a long time.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot Bln! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  18:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Concordia
Howdy. This is weird; generally I find myself supporting you or following up to support our joint POV. However, this time I really think you've got it wrong. Are you acquainted with the school? If not, please take my word for it - the student leadership is highly relevant. If so, please explain to me why you feel it is unencyclopaediac. Looking forward to receiving your response. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why prefects and SRC etc are relevant. Why is it different from other schools.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 07:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * "I'm not sure why prefects and SRC etc are relevant." - Yes, I could see that. (First answer is that they are neither Prefects nor SRC. But I don't imagine that helps you much.)
 * "Why is it different from other schools." - There are many answers to that.
 * I see you're not prepared to take my word for it.
 * Oh well.
 * Please tell me why it's unencyclopaediac so I can give you an answer that addresses your concerns.
 * Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. I like to see both sides of the discussion in the one place, so please respond here.

Well it was just a general rule of thumb that student leaders aren't notable, I guess less notable than actual teachers. I don't know that much about this so I'm not going to sit here arguing vigourously or anything.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 08:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I have to admit that I'm more interested in your Olympic photos ... Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Righto, keep voting then!  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 06:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Jolly good. How many times? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dunno, I thought I was referring to your not voting on all of them.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 04:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Anupam Mukhopadhyay suspect sockpuppetry
I suspect Sock puppetry at the Afd, can you please check the users.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've blocked a whole pile of them, see my logs. You can chuck out the votestacking as needed.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you please comment at Suspected_sock_puppets. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * done, finally,  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 04:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Waterfall Gully & WP:ELLIPSES
The manual of style seems pretty clear: "Put a space on each side of an ellipsis, except at the very start or end of a quotation." This is followed by examples. If you think the manual is wrong, or just doesn't follow usage, that's another thing.

Personally, I would myself have left out the spaces, but I can see a plausible argument - to avoid long non-breaking blocks. In any case, I won't lose any sleep over it.

And, by the way, thanks for your work on Waterfall Gully. It's appreciated. Pingku (talk) 06:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Noted, I stand correctted.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 04:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

FACs
YM, that's four FACs at once ... and the first still hasn't gotten support. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 05:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you mean Faith Leech? It has one.... I know 4 at a time is a lot, but I've been able to deal with in the past quite easily. Unfortunately because of the type of topic, with nobody caring about Vietnamese history and swimming, these ones have always attracted about one comment per week, whereas the cricket ones have usually got 3-4 per week. I know about the karma theory of FAC and all that, but I was the most prolific GAC reviewer in a few months, and usually, a large majority of my articles have gotten onto the WP:GAN/R topic because of the fact that nobody is interested in VN or swimming. Whereas I think TonyTheTiger has 100+ GAs and has probably had maybe 150+ GANs in total and only a handful of reviews because more people out there are interested in American stuff...I do believe I'm within the proviso of not-nominating without prior supports and having dealt with objections, because there aren't any. I should be right apart from any copyediting concerns though.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 06:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Ashes
Hi, Can I ask why you have deleted my changes to The Ashes page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallerina (talk • contribs) 08:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this is covert advertising, the article is about the whole history and tradition of the Ashes, not so much the details of the sponsors for one of the series.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Signpost updated for November 17, 2008 and before.
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Ears burning?
Courtesy notice: an editor has called you out by name on ANI, for your information. Regards, AGK 18:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:ANI. (Permalink.)


 * Sorry for not notifying you first. It didn't occur to me.  Enigma  message 18:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it;s fine.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 07:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Googlean block review


Can you show me any evidence that Googlean = Avinesh, such as a positive checkuser result? This ANI thread is not convincing me. Jehochman Talk 11:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, nevermind this. I have found the necessary information already. Jehochman Talk 16:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks,  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 07:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Message from JSR

 * I have rewritten the Indian Antarctic Program article and plan to further expand it. Please make sure to take a look whenever you find time.


 * I will be expanding the Cartography of India article since I have an article by Joseph E. Schwartzberg (published by Springer Science+Business Media). Please make sure to take a look whenever you find time.

With Best Wishes,  JSR   0562  13:36, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Good work. I've done some MOS fixes. Were you looking for more specific help?  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 05:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the edits and for providing some uniformity to the articles.  JSR   0562  14:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edits and for providing some uniformity to the articles.  JSR   0562  14:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Sukhdev Singh Babbar
I'm fighting an uphill battle against a number of editors at that article. They all seem to think that I have some sort of hidden agenda. I don't. That article is horribly written and is desperately in need of a rewrite. The comments on the talk page are evidence enough of the determination of the editors involved to give it a pro-Khalistani slant. Would you mind taking a look at it, or suggesting some other editors who could take a look at it? -- vi5in [talk] 00:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's unprotected now and the guy is out for socking.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 07:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Your DYK submission
Hello! Your submission at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – How do you turn this on (talk) 02:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Please semi-protect Douglas Haig, 1st Earl Haig
Please semi-protect Douglas Haig, 1st Earl Haig. It's getting the usual continual schoolboy vandalism. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 16:00, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Done,  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 02:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you yet again. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 09:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Kalarimaster
Hi there,, who you had blocked earlier this month for 10 days, has been busy on the India page. He has set up yet another poll on a stock topic that gets everyone's goat. Anyway, I noticed that the only other vote cast in this poll is by a. Not one and the same, are they? Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  17:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting. I am glad we dont have to deal with Kalarimaster for a while. But, in all its fairness, his presumed sock, Indiastarforce seems to have voted for a proposal Kalarimaster would never himself have voted for. Indianstarforce voted for Hindi alone as a language of the union and on the other hand, Kalarimaster was very explicit in his hatred for Hindi. It would have been hard for me to decide if they were really both socks in light of their totally opposite behaviour.  Docku:  What up?  23:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well Kalarimaster has shown signs of extreme sarcasm in his anti-Hindi rants like saying everything not Hindi-related should be deleted on India (too lazy to find diff but its somewhere on Talk:India). Maybe Indianstarforce is just his alter/sarcastic ego? GizzaDiscuss  &#169; 02:56, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * He probably deserves a block. But dont tell me that he was blocked for incivility when he was actually blocked for sock allegations. I know wikipedia can not be fair always, i just thought i would bring it up to the attention of the involved administrator in case there was a misunderstanding and there apparently is a misunderstanding. I hope Kalarimaster will use this break for some soul searching.  Docku:  What up?  03:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

✅ - Direct hit on an IP with only the usual lot there. Not a shared IP. I wonder why some of the seniors don't block people themselves. Anyway, I guess it was just a sock used to cause a riot or a POINT vote.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 05:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for confirming. It is a good feeling to be sure that you did the right thing.  Docku:  What up?  05:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I have checkuser.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 05:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * thank you.  Docku:  What up?  05:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) Thanks for checking! A big weight off the India page. I think he might have cast his fake "opposite" vote to get the ball rolling in the poll (since no one was voting). Sort of like throwing a few 10 dollar bills in the church collection basket before you pass it around ... The faithful begin to feel guilty about giving only a dollar. Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  05:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * sounds right. he also never protested his block. :)  Docku:  What up?  19:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think he'll take the strategy of not bothering to keep a clean sheet and go for undisguised rioting and socking.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 02:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

MACVSOG
Ping! -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 06:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Noted, thanks.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 02:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

racism against Biharis
User:Manoj nav and User:Notashamed dont seem to have any grasp on any wikipedia policies. They appear to be driven by rage and fail to see reason. They have created this article Racism faced by the Bihari community in India and have been adding every tangentially related incident. Pls see here for example. I explained to them how what they are adding is synthesis. They just dont get it. May be a higher level intervention will help. Thanks.  Docku:  What up?  14:00, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dear that's really bad. If someone says that India can't play hockey well anymore, that doesn't make it racist. Also, the Kokar fellow on the Rahul Raj AfD is a sock. Rather surprising that an experienced user would do that,  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 02:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * exactly. hope the warning will be taken serious, if not, at their own peril. BTW, I am shocked at Gppande incident. I still remember my conversation with Kokar. crazy world.  Docku:  What up?  02:55, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

More socks?
Sorry to trouble you with this, but could you please take a look at my post on this talk page. The two SPAs there have the MO of our recently blocked user. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  20:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, teh second one is. The first one, is apparently more than 1000km away.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 02:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks again! Hmm ... the Mystery of the Separated Twins ... perhaps its time to call our friend at 220A Baker Street. Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  12:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

World Swimmers of the Year
Hey there! We're still rolling out our World and Regional Swimmers of the Year announcements for 2008 on our web site, but the magazine has started to be delivered in the mail. I decided to update the page for these awards. I hope the changes will stick and not be reverted. I apologize for not being signed in for all the changes. user:RedTieGuy —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC).
 * Sure that's ok.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model! ) 02:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)