User talk:YellowMonkey/Rahul Dravid

Preliminary review comments

 * In the second half of the Early years there are too many numbers packed too close. Please look at spreading them out by adding something in between, or drop the less important ones.


 * The records section needs some serious trimming. Half the records have arbitrary conditions attached to them, some are there just to make sure that they can be entered as a record. There are some records listed which are


 * very arbitrary and unimportant ("This is the highest percentage contribution by any batsman in Test cricket history in matches won under a single captain where the captain has won more than 20 tests").


 * ephemeral, like the winning % of 62.16 which he lost in the very next match after this. Tintin (talk) 08:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course, mostly I will cut the records but have not gotten around to doing so yet. I need more info about ODIs and about his general strengths and weaknesses with stats and sourcing. Also the period between AUS-IND 2001 and 2003-04 is missing.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * http://www.sulekha.com/groups/postdisplay.aspx?cid=191790&forumid=756955 contains some interesting stuff that is apparently based on Dravid's biography. Tintin (talk) 08:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The Keki Tarapore who coached Dravid is not the Test cricketer of the same name. Tintin (talk) 15:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Dropped in one dayers

 * What about the following sentence - and has been a regular fixture ever since, as a middle order batsman and occasional wicket-keeper in One Day Internationals
 * He was dropped in One dayers.. Doctor Bruno  Talk  12:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * True, I need to fix that up. there is stuff there in the chrono account I added where I noted he was dropped in 96, 97 and perhaps later on also. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 00:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Dravid's ethnicity
Well Rahul Dravid is a Maharashtrian originally from Indore. Indore has a large Marathi speaking population. There are many Marathi speaking "Dravids" in US also from Indore. Dravid is infact a Deshasta Maharashtrian Brahmin... I've seen Dravid saying Marathi is his mother tongue... So unless he has some Kannadiga connection i see no need for Kannad name... 'Dravid' as a surname is found only amongs Maharashtrians and is nothing to do with "Dravidian".

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 17:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Dravid great great grandfather (gf's gf) in the paternal side was from Thanjavur and migrated to Indore. Tintin (talk) 05:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, he moved to Karnataka as a youngster. Also does he use Hindi at press conferences in his role as a cricketer? Either way, we could have a battle as I have noticed on some cricket forums north and south Indians are trying to "claim" him and attribute his characteristic toughness etc. to whether he is N/S Indian "at heart". Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Blnguyen being a resident of a state of Karnataka doesnt make anyone Kannadiga. Conversely a Marathi speaker will be referred to as an Maharashtrian even if he isnt a resident of Maharashtra. Heck my mum is a Marathi from Gwalior and i've rarely been to Maharashtra having been born in UK. Yet i'm called a Maharashtrian. A Maharashtrian is a a native speaker of Marathi while Kannadiga is a native speaker of Kannada. Neeways i'm not interested in sparring over trivial issues here, just wanted to ensure factual accuracy.

@Tintin: Indore as well as Thanjavur were Maratha states... they still have considerable Maharashtrian populations..

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 09:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I checked one of his two biograhpies (the one by Devendra Prabhudesai). It contains nothing about its ancestry. Tintin (talk) 13:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

That is the story. Interpret in any way you want. Tintin (talk) 05:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Double ton for Karnataka
This article suggests the double hundred was for Karnataka Schools v Kerala Schools. Not the most reliable of sources, but better than nowt. Sam Vimes | Address me 08:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Criticism
Why there is NO criticism section on Dravid. ??

Early days
Referring to this sentence: "However, he was omitted from the Indian team for the 1996 Cricket World Cup held on the Indian subcontinent."

IMHO, this sentence does not fit into "Early days" section. It could be considered for putting in "International Cricket career" and might need rewording "omitted from " as "not selected to" or something to keep it at neutral tone. Just a thought. - KNM Talk - Contribs 02:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)