User talk:Yellow Evan/Archive 1

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2008 Pacific hurricane season
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Plasticup  T / C 02:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Go on weather.com and click on Hurricane Herman. Then click on the link that says then click on Cristina. You will soon get the tracker. After you finish looking at it. Click on Douglas, I am right.

2006 Pacific hurricane season
Mitchazenia, Hurricanehink and I discussed the matter, and decided that we would revert the recent edits to let Hurricanehink take over. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  17:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much but i will be editing the page from time to time too.--72.193.254.254 (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

2006 Pacific hurricane season
Mitchazenia, Hurricanehink and I discussed the matter, and decided that we would revert the recent edits to let Hurricanehink take over. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  17:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much but i will be editing the page from time to time too.--72.193.254.254 (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Elida
Hi there! I noticed that you changed a redirect to point to your sandbox article on Elida. Please don't do this; if you want to continue working on your article without making it an article in the main article space, keep it in the sandbox and don't redirect anything to it. The main space is only for things that you think are useful and you feel others should feel free to work on it. When you're ready to release it as a main-space article, ask an administrator to move it on top of the redirect. I recommend asking others for help before you do this, though - the standards for tropical cyclone articles are pretty high because we have a lot of knowlegable people in WikiProject Tropical cyclones. Happy editing! —AySz88\^ - ^ 00:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

My Cyclone Page
I known that you are trying to help but can you please stop editing my cyclone page! --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 ''edits!!!' 12:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Meteorological history of Hurricane Ioke
I noticed that you've been hastily creating articles, which aren't of very good quality. An example of this is Meteorological history of Hurricane Ioke, whose title is spelled incorrectly, which I presume is a result of haste. Another thing I noticed in that article is that it's a copy and past of an existing article, which is generally discouraged. While you can easily move that article to its correct title, I think redirecting it to the original article would suffice. One more thing; if an article you have created has been merged, redirected or tagged for deletion of any kind, you should not revert without first discussing with the person who preformed the action. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

Happy editing, and I hope to see you at the Tropical Cyclones WikiProject! –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  21:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Please Try to Make It a Non-Copy
Please do not just copy and paste the article! If you continue to do that all the articles will be redirected! Please do not just copy! Most EPac storms are fish-spinners so just because Hernan is the strongest storm of the season doesn't mean that it should have a article. --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 ''edits!!!' 01:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC) Even if you just organize the article, try to make it longer that it. If you want, change all articles to the new infobox, I know that this is not the best but it is better. --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 ''edits!!!' 12:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Make A Sandbox
If you want to make articles until they are long enough and spell checked, make a sandbox, maybe at User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox. There you can make long articles that have decent storm history that is longer than it's section in the main article and has at least 3 paragraphs!

Please Respond!!! --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 ''edits!!!' 18:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

List of Pacific hurricanes
Your recent edit to List of Pacific hurricanes made the article worse. Please try and make your edits more constructive. When people merge your articles, try and consider why they are being merged. If you are working on articles in user space, make sure they are at least three paragraphs long, and please move the sandbox - copying and pasting is bad! ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Please don't revert my latest change to Great Mazatlán Hurricane. You don't own the article, and every time you change the article, you add back several problematic things. If you continue reverting without reason, you could get blocked for policy violation. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, as to your comment about the single table in Hurricane Ioke, please keep in mind that table is for Category 5 Pacific hurricanes, of which Ioke was one of only a handful. The tables you are adding are poorly sourced, and aren't a definitive set. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Why
It is too short! 5 sentences is too short! --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 ''edits!!!' 22:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Boris 2008 and Hurricane Elida 2008 articles
Yellow Evan, sorry to tell you this, but please STOP remaking these articles, none of them meet notability and there is precedent to having articles on East Pacific storms that did nothing. If you could be so kind to have a thoughtful discussion about this, please post on WT:WPTC. Otherwise, for now - leave the two alone or I will report them to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Thanks. Mitch32(UP) 22:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Great Mazatlán Hurricane has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. ... disco spinster   talk  22:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

My Pages
You are welcome to look at them, but DO NOT COPY THEM ALMOST ENTIRELY SIMILAR!!!! I do not mean to be mean but this makes me upset, link it or something it is after all mine!!!. Sorry If I Get You MAD --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 ''edits!!!' 00:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Elida
I'm sorry, I don't understand. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Warning
Yellow Evan, I'm going to ask you to stop again. You're being disruptive to the Wikipedia community; you've been blocked twice for edit warring and once for editing disruption, yet you continue to edit war, ignore consensus, and refuse to take note of other editors' guidance. The articles you create violate Wikipedia policy, and/or WPTC standards. If an article you have created has been merged in good-faith, whether as a result of a merge discussion or at the judgment of an individual editor, you cannot revert without a justified reason to do so, or a discussion on the talk page. Additionally, if an editor adds cleanup tags to the articles you have created, you are not to remove them without addressing the issues, or proving that the issue at hand does not exist. If you continue in this disruptive manner, you may be blocked for continually longer periods of time. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

My Userpage
Do not edit my userpage, it is my personal page, and the info on their is what I put myself. If you want to have something changed on there, don't just edit it because it's not a mainspace page. Put your thoughts on my talk page if you have anything to say. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

You're not the boss
Excuse me, I didn't know you suddenly took control over what I can and can't do. For one, I can create any article I feel like making, second you are not in a position to be remotely close to telling people to work on a certain topic, third, learn how to write using proper spelling and grammar, and fourth listen to what people say when they give input on your edits, because it's really annoying to many of us that you're ignoring our comments and doing exactly what we asked you not to do. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

You're not the boss
Excuse me, I didn't know you suddenly took control over what I can and can't do. For one, I can create any article I feel like making, second you are not in a position to be remotely close to telling people to work on a certain topic, third, learn how to write using proper spelling and grammar, and fourth listen to what people say when they give input on your edits, because it's really annoying to many of us that you're ignoring our comments and doing exactly what we asked you not to do. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Last warning
I see that you removed my message last night; that doesn't make the warning non-existent. It shows me that you read the comment, and that you know how to edit while adhering to policy. This edit reverted the merging of an article you created, which was done so as the result of a talk page discussion. This article, along with the dozens of others you have created, violate many, many Wikipedia policies, and/or WPTC standards. You as an editor have to discuss the matter on the talk page before ignoring consensus, and refusing the listen to other editors' guidance. If you continue in this destructive manner of editing, you will be blocked. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Regarding that message your mother wrote, can you make sure she reads my response? Also, I suggest that you wait before creating more articles, as Nora seems to need too much work to be published at the moment. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  23:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: EPAC Storms
Its simple there is not enough infomation for the EPAC, to support articles for all EPAC Storms weather they be fishspinners or not. Jason Rees (talk) 15:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If you would like to avoid a further block after your current one runs out then listen to advice that myself and others have given you.Jason Rees (talk) 15:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Just so you know i would support articles for all storms providing there is enough Infomation for them and the article isnt poorly written Jason Rees (talk) 13:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Warning re.
I'm quite sure that it doesn't matter. Most of my work is done in one edit anyways, Also, I couldn't move the sandbox because the article had been previously made, for Elida, you made an article which was merged, and douglas was a redirect page. I don't think you should be giving me warnings though, pay more attention to your actions and avoid being banned yourself. I can take care of myself and if I'm doing anything wrong an admin like Juliancolton will notify me of such actions. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's too late now anyways, both articles are completed and rated GA. Don't worry about the edit history too much. I don't think it really is all that important. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * See my reply at Cyclonebiskit's talk page. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Nora sandbox
I notice you are working on a sandbox for Hurricane Nora (2003). May I please help? -- Dylan620 ( yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 22:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the (relatively) slow response, but OK! We just need to find any additional good sources that we don't already have, and we'll be all set. Dylan620 ( yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 09:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Too Late - I finished it in 5 minutes. Itfc+canes=me <font color="#66666">Talk <font color="#66666">Contributions  17:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Another article request re.
Sure thing. Since I'm in school right now, I can't work on it right now. I should be able to work on it during lunch and free. Since it is a short lived storm it should be quick to finish. I'll leave a note here when it's finished. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It'll take longer than expected. Sorry for the inconvenience. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article that you requested, Tropical Storm Lidia (2005), has been completed. If there are any other articles which you would like me to create or work on, leave a note on my talk page. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 13:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I might not have it done by sunday since I have two other articles to do beforehand. I'll notify you when I start the article so you'll have an idea when it will be completed. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:00, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Ele
I saw your post, please don't do ELE!!! I am doing it.--Kirk76 1854 Atlantic   Hurricane Season  20:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Welcome!
Um, thanks, I guess... –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not if the articles aren't up to C-class standards. Nominating an article at GAN doesn't make it inherently good. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Newsletter/Archive 22
Please do not add information about fake hurricane seasons to the WPTC newsletter; it's not project news. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  20:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Yellow Evan/Make up hurricane season 2
Just so you know... technically it is. I can't move using huggle but I suggest you move to another name. Other wise I will report for AFD. Sorry.... can you wish your Mum well and tell her thanks for the explanations... User:Itfc+canes=me <font color="Orange">Talk  Contributions  21:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Hernan (2008) A-class article review request
Evan, as previously stated in the FAC for Hernan, the major contributer to the article should be the one to nominate the article for things which need peer reviews. You need to notify me of such if you want to go further with an article of yours (by which I mean you created) that I've rewrote and completed. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

What's Nevada Day?
Really, what is it? You speak about it in your signature. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 13:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! Although not now, I do plan on visiting there some day. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 14:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Please read
Sorry for taking so long to respond. First of all, please stop creating the new articles. None of them are needed, and none of them are any good. Hurricane Max (2005), for example, is not at all needed; it is extremely short, and the overall writing is poor. As such, it should stay merged. As I've said before, you are in the process of making enemies. I asked you before, but you ignored - have you gone through grade school writing and grammar? If so, please, write better the first around, and avoid the spelling and grammar mistakes. If not, then I suggest you avoid writing for a while, until you learn how to write. Regarding the Pacific hurricanes article, you must create a discussion to get people to agree with you. If no one agrees, or if no one knows about it, then you could been as disruptive. So, to recap, please stop making new articles, and please allow your old ones to be redirected. None of them are any good, and it just creates more work for other people to clean up. If you're looking for a storm that has a lot of info, why not try Hurricane Iris? I know it already exists, but it could give you the chance to work with a pretty significant storm, and one for which your efforts would not be wasted on. The key to making a good article is to find every piece of information available on the storm, and research very thoroughly. That means doing a Google search for "Hurricane Iris", using and citing every useful link you can find. Note, you'll have to cite, which means reading over WP:CITE and doing it correctly, or by using the formats established by other articles (check out Hurricane Lane (2006), which is featured). So recapping once more - please don't make any new articles, and instead work on Hurricane Iris. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Please respond as soon as you read this. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm only trying to help you out. First of all, Max isn't that notable for absorbing Linda, and even if it was, you cannot have an article that short and stubby. This may be a free encyclopedia, but you need to realize you don't own your articles. Hilary, Max, and Otis are all unneeded, although Otis is the most notable out of the three (which is why it hasn't been merged yet). I strongly suggest you stop making any new articles, since nearly all of them have been merged by various project members, simply because all of them are poor, unneeded articles. Regarding that list of articles you think should be made, I don't think any of them need articles at the moment. Personally, I think the best thing for you would be to improve an existing article, which is why I suggested Hurricane Iris. The storm has a ton of information available, but the article is rather poor. I'm telling you this because I don't want you to leave the project. I want you to be useful, and I believe you can be in the future. But right now, you are creating more work than what it is necessary, by making the new articles. I hope you read and understand what I am saying. I am willing to help, but I can't do 100%. I hope you take faith in what I am saying. I have been here for over three years, and I know my way around the place. To be honest, I am working on finding enthusiastic editors who could be great editors in the future, and I believe you are one of them. Cheers. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ekeka could probably stay, but that's not important. Yellow Evan, please read my post again. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm telling you, that is a bad policy. You haven't written a good article yet. I don't know what MH is, but it is probably a bad idea. Please read what I said again. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with Hurricanehink here on most points. Creating new stub storm articles that contain no more information than already exists within the season articles, does not help. Just because a topic (storm) is notable does not mean we need a stub article on it if the information can be presented better in a list (seasonal) format. Take some time to work on improving your writing and researching skills by working on existing articles to improve them. Talk to experienced editors for guidance, and consider their advice seriously; joining the IRC channel can help speed this up. — jdorje (talk) 03:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Evan, I'm telling you, it doesn't matter how much you try fixing articles up. You cannot write good articles, and stubs like this are polluting the project by creating more work. As an aside, Boris and the Mazatlan hurricane still exist only because other editors worked on them. Fausto is far from good, as it is merely a copy of the tropical cyclone report. And so I'll say it once again - it doesn't matter how much you try fixing your articles up. You are fighting a losing argument by trying to keep Hurricane Hillary (2005) (which is misspelled, BTW). Fausto could be on the way to being merged, as well. PLEASE stop making the new articles. Instead, as Jdorje said, take some time to work on improving your writing and researching skills by working on existing articles to improve them.

Now, I have a question for you. Would you be opposed to talking with the rest of the WPTC editors online? We have sort of a chatroom on Internet Relay Chat, but it's reserved to only WPTC members, and so I am formally inviting you to join. You just have to click on this link; when it says "Connect to IRC:" click on the dropbox and change it to freenode.net (it's pretty far down the list). Then, under Nick: put your name, and under Channel(s): put #wiki-hurricanes. I hope you join, so we can talk to you. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * We really want to to talk to you on the IRC. We think you have potential to be a great editor, but you're not doing so well right now. If you come on to the IRC, we can show you how to make a great article, all by yourself. It's a bit tedious to show through talk pages. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * And I'll say again, we really want to talk to you, just so you realize we're all part of a team, and not just individual editors. We have certain standards, and you aren't meeting them. I really suggest you stop writing articles for now, and instead learn how to improve existing articles. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's clear you're on right now. There are a group of editors who would like to help you out, but it's cumbersome having to do it on talk page. For example, we are talking about how you should not have moved that depression article. Please just come on for a little while. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ugh, please stop with the new articles. I see you plan on making Meteorological history of Hurricane Guillermo (1997), and I can assure you that will be redirected as soon as it is published. Please, take a look back at what you are creating. Every subject does not need an article. Please, stop wasting your time, and instead work on an existing article. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, please follow our suggestions. For why you should, consider this analogy: Which would you rather have, (1) twenty leaky drafty houses that are in ruins and that you built yourself? Or (2) one other house that while not a mansion or created by you at least keeps you warm and dry? I would take the second choice and I know you and everyone would take the second choice. Change houses to articles and you will see why you shouldn't keep creating articles the way you are. By learning the ropes on an existing article you will eventually be able to make houses rather than rubble. And if this dispute escalates further, it may eventually get to Requests for comment. Trust me, you don't want to go there. I would never send my worst enemy there. I personally offer to help you work on an existing article. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Evan, would you mind explaining this edit? It is factually incorrect, and adding incorrect information can be seen as vandalism. If you continue doing edits such as that, you could get blocked. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I redirected the article for Guillermo's met. history. There is NO need for the article, since, as we went through with Hurricane Ioke, removing the met. history would make the main article too short. Please stop making the new articles. Please, just stop. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that Guillermo's met. history in the main article isn't good, or just the article that you made? Yea, working on Hurricane Kathleen (1976) would be a great idea. We have project resources that should be able to help, and I'm sure a thorough Google search would help a lot. Let me know if you need help. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty clear
Not to be harsh, but you're not helping the project any. Do you have any other interests? Who knows, you could benefit with them. I, and the project do feel that you should either start following standards or stop creating articles which are just hurting the project. Several people have suggested mentorship, but right now you're driving the project downhill. If you could reply, or contact me on Internet Relay Chat or e-mail me. It would be benefcial to the project if you start listening to the people who have suggested what to do. Otherwise, please STOP recreating articles and doing all the stuf you are doing, its becoming huge pain in the butt.<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT>32(UP) 18:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

"Sandbox"
Don't make a sandbox 4 TD 11 when it forms. You know why, because you have horrible grammar, spelling and it will be too short. Let some one else do it O.K.? --Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 ''edits' 22:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:BEANS –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 ''edits' 22:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you mean, face it, your writing is horrible and your articles are short. His article has info and is thorough while your Meteorological history of Guilernmo isn't comprehensive and doesn't has enough info.

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 ''edits' 22:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But your articles are no where near that! They has spelling and grammar mistakes! Improve some other article.!

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 ''edits' 22:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ha, Ekeka was largely improved by Hurricanehink so it doesn't count and Fausto was edited largely by Miss Madeline. Stop arguing with this! You should try to improve other articles so that you are actually help.

--Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 ''edits' 22:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See User:Miss Madeline tell you something at my talk page. No more articles!

Daman
Don't do it!!! user: Jason Rees already has a great sandbox, why don't you ask him? --Elena85 | Talk to Me | Almost 2000 ''edits' 22:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: 1939 California tropical storm
This article is unique in its title, but it should be kept where it is, primarily for the fact that it is most notable for making landfall on California as a tropical storm. It did not make landfall as a hurricane, nor did many people even know it was a hurricane. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Stop
Yellow Evan, please listen to me. You are creating extremely poor and stubby articles, which are a blight to the project. You're not being helpful, rather, you're slowing the project down. When WPTC redirects one of your articles, there will have been a consensus to do so, and when you revert such a change, your edits borderline vandalism. I'm going to ask you again. Please stop creating articles until you gain a knowledge of Wikipedia's core policies, and you learn what an article should be, and more importantly, don't revert an article against consensus. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you reading what we are telling you? Do you even care? Do not revert a merging of one of your articles against a project consensus. You are vandalizing, edit warring, and you can be blocked if you continue. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  12:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

GA review for Hurricane Ekeka (1992)
You did not do the GA review correctly for the aforementioned storm, and so I reverted some of your recent edits that passed the article. Additionally, you are not supposed to assess/review articles which you had significant involvement. Please read up more about policy. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I know you are new, but you are not following anyone's advice. Everyone has asked you to stop writing articles for the time being, and to stop editing without asking anyone else what to do. You should not review for the GA process at the time, since you are so new to the project. As we said before, please take some time reading up on policy, and taking note of what makes an article good, poor, and even featured. BTW, your edits to Hurricane Kathleen (1976) were not good - you removed references and added new, unsourced information. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Lowell (2008)
Why did you add so much information for Ike to the article? The remnants joined, but the damage was related to Ike. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Please check out this revision. First of all, please learn to write better. I have no idea what your edit summary meant - it merged with Ike dd I do not think you want it to be Second, you added back in a redirected link, which goes to Hurricane Ike. Third, Lowell was a very minimal tropical storm, which was absorbed by the front which later impacted the mid-west. Thus, the impact in Chicago was not directly related to Lowell. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What does that even mean about Maria? You are responsible for every edit you make. Please learn to spell better - in fact, have you even passed elementary school English classes? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * He appears to have an understanding of (some) basic grammar, so I don't think it is a fundamental language problem. The spelling errors are random - he often spells the same word three or four different ways - which makes me believe that it is simply carelessness. Or vandalism. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 04:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What does Maria have to do with anything? Lowell was a minimal tropical storm, that hardly anyone knew about nor cared about once its remnants reached the midwest, since Ike was the dominant factor. Maria was a powerful hurricane, which was widely known as a contributor to the remnants in the Europe. I'll ask again. Have you even passed elementary school English classes? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 13:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I am only deleting a few redirects to the main space, some general cleanup. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to post this again, because I don't like how you removed it, but I also added to it. Are you are still in elementary school? If so (you don't need to answer), then Wikipedia is probably not the place for you. The site is an encyclopedia, meaning good writing and research skills are expected. It doesn't appear you can write or research well - no offense, but your typos are outrageous, and in all of your articles you almost solely relied on the TCR. You don't know policy at all. On the page for discussing the deletion of the hurricane main template, you voted five times (four times you said keep, and one time you said merge), which certainly isn't helping the process. Additionally, it doesn't appear you can take criticism or people telling you what's best. I hope you take the time to think about this. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I still hope you respond to the above. Also, the hurricane main template would look the exact same as the main template, if it was redirected. Nothing would change, except for no more bold. You voted four times on that page, which is votestacking - such an offense is highly frowned upon, and if you do that again, you could get blocked. Again, please respond to the above post. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, do you actually plan on working on Norman, or do you just plan on doing some minor but problematic edits, as you did to Hurricane Kathleen (1976) (which actually made the article worse). Once more, please respond to what I said above. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I really didn't understand what you just said. If you don't want to talk about this on Wikipedia, could you come onto the IRC? Click here. Then, where it says IRC: click to the right of that, then scroll down to freenode.net. Next to nick: type your name in, and under Channel(s): type in #wiki-hurricanes. I'd really like you to come on there. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * So when you get a chance, can you come onto IRC? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Effects of Tropical Storm Lowell in the Midwest
A tag has been placed on Effects of Tropical Storm Lowell in the Midwest, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template   to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 04:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I am placing your talk page on my watchlist, so please respond here. That will leave the entire discussion in one place, making it easier for others to read. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 04:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

You are more than welcome to have my page on your watchlist --Leave Message orYellow Evan home 13:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Fake Ella
Hi, Yellow Evan. Just so you know, I put "Elena" on my fake hurricane naming list, not "Ella." Also, "Erika" is replacing Elena, not "Emilia." And "Erin" is on List 3 and "Esther" is on List 5. But how's this: Ella will replace Erin, and Emilia will replace Esther. Happy? --Dylan620 (talk) 23:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: Welcome to WP:TROP. You're actually one of the few members newer than me.

3RR
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 19:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. It also appears that you've been logging out to press this edit-war using your IP, which is an exacerbating factor. MastCell Talk 21:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I have to help sometimes to get the template to work! --Rose09 | Talk | 2011 ''edits' 21:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I dissagree about what should it say on the template (I also think the rull is silly) and the Hurricane main is more then likely to get merged or get rid of the bold. it makes all the pages look silly and they are over 60 pages with the template.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 23:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, when your block expires you should express your view on the template's talk page. KnightLago (talk) 23:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Unblock me theres what i care about more then be able to edit a template thats going to get merged.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 23:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * 72 hours for 3RR when the user was unaware of the rule? That strikes me as unnecessarily harsh. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 00:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He was blocked for 3RR in the past, so he clearly knows of the rule. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not true, as I blocked him for breaking the 3RR previously (see above). Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 00:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, that makes a whole lot of difference. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 00:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

It is a silly rule and I try to remember. Its is hard to remember. It should have been 36 hours I would say.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 00:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it is not a "silly rule". It is a very important policy that prevents edit warring and severe disruption, which is exactly what you doing. Being "hard to remember" is not an excuse. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

i think the time is the main issue. It should be 123 strikes your out. Tixod never should have blocked me in the fist place and that was the day Tropical Storm Lowell struck my house. We must that user about it.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I meant Julio (Lowell also knocked on my door).
 * Um, no. Per policy, users get blocked for 24 hours the first time they violate 3RR. Also, what does Julio or Lowell have to do with anything? –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec) Please don't be a liar. Julio dissipated on August 28, and I blocked you on September 8. Lowell was in the middle of the ocean on September 8, so I doubt that one affected you at the time of your blocking, unless you live in the Islas Marías. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 02:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

just interesting.i bnot expect to now. what about second.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC) i am going to show you something worse.

The remains of Julio enter the southwest with its identity. Residual moisture struck labor Day, anyway thats not the piont but it is interesting to know.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Mabey Julication is right what if the WPTC got into a war. what page did I do the edit war. I think it was one of the Boris's but i am not sure. Will some one let hurricanehink know. More after the Simpsons.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 03:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Someone unblock me. the first time was too harsh(blocking someone when you do not no the rule?)thats nonsense. Juliancolton or Hurricanehink would at let me now before hand. We should let her know. He even miss understood me in first reason.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 14:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Spell my name right and please use a spell checker. I have no idea what you're saying. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

PLEASE UNBLOCK ME.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 03:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

blanking pages is worse those anyone agrre Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted by ClueBot. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: 2005 Atlantic hurricane season was changed by 68.124.71.22 (u) (t) blanking the page on 2008-07-30T23:19:18+00:00. Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 23:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to 2004 Atlantic hurricane season. Your edits have been automatically marked as unconstructive/possible vandalism and have been automatically reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: 2004 Atlantic hurricane season was changed by 68.124.71.22 (u) (t) blanking the page on 2008-07-30T23:20:25+00:00. Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 23:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Hurricane Charley. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. <font color="black" face="tahoma">Scarian Call me Pat!  23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Hurricane Charley, you will be blocked from editing. Your edits have been automatically marked as vandalism and have been automatically reverted. The following is the log entry regarding this vandalism: Hurricane Charley was changed by 68.124.71.22 (u) (t) blanking the page on 2008-07-30T23:22:47+00:00. Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for Vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so when the block expires. <font color="black" face="tahoma">Scarian Call me Pat!  23:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

You have removed several user warning templates from your user or user talk page. This is a bad idea. These warnings are not put on your talk page to annoy you; they are put here because other editors think that your behavior needs improvement, and we're giving you the courtesy of letting you know. Please respond by changing your behavior, and please stop removing the warnings. Thank you. —Jer10 95 Talk 17:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. L337<font color="black" size="2px"> *P4wn<font color="yellow" size="2px"> 01:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. JForget 01:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Please stop. You're welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text below.

--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 02:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Dora
Dora was a tropical storm that effected Mexico as a minimal tropical storm.

Meteorological History
A tropical wave left Africa on June 14. It moved westward without any deep convection. It continued through the Caribbean and crossed Central America on July 1 and entered the Eastern pacific Ocean shortly thereafter. The wave turned north as it began to organize. Finally on July 3 the NHC classified the wave as Tropical Depression Four-E and Tropical Cyclone Watches and Warnings were issued.

Upon becoming a tropical cyclone, land was in the way which could have weakened the cyclone. Instead, It became better organized and was upgraded to Tropical Storm Dora six hours later. Shortly thereafter, Dora reached a peak of 45 mph.

Twelve hors after its peak, it became a 40 mph Tropical Storm while effecting Mexican States like Guerrero. On July 6 Dora made it closest approach to Mexico, coming within 45 miles. Later that day, It regained peak intensity later that day, but it was downgraded to a 35 mph tropical depression and all warnings and watches were discontinued. It dissipated on July 6.

Impact
Dora brought heavy rains washing out roadways, but no damage was reported.

Many watches and warnings were issued from Acapulco to La Fortuna. On July 4A 45 mph wind report from ship H9UY (Nikkei Phoenix) located 20 miles east of the center was useful in determining the peak intensity of Dora. A 35 mph wind report on July 2 from ship 4XFQ located 35 miles southeast of the center was helpful in estimating the extent of tropical storm-force winds.

After Dora began to interact with the mountainous terrain of coastal Mexico on July 5, satellite-based automated objective Dvorak T-numbers from the University of Wisconsin’s Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies (UW-CIMSS) produced overestimated intensity values of 40-50 kt. These inflated values were likely due to enhanced convective development caused by the southerly upslope flow on the east side of Dora.

SEason
I help too. If you keep up w/ your writing NO but if you improve yes But improve first. --Rose09 Rashmi   Next  18:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Just in case this is about my 1984 Planet Ceres Atlantic hurricane season, I think that's a good idea. However, I do think it's fair to give you a shot. But be mindful that if you make too many grammatical or spelling errors, you will not be allowed to edit my fake hurricane seasons until you improve. Use a spell check (something that underlines spelling errors in red and grammatical errors in green) if it helps. <font color="#0080FF">Dy '<font color="009E49">la ' n ' 6 ' 20  Life story  20:03 UTC October 2, 2008

3 things, --Rose09 Rashmi   Next  22:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * first of all it's Ceres not Ceaser and
 * the hurricane list is of 1995 see my talk page for details about the list, it should be at archive 2 and
 * and third of all, please do not mess around with my user talk pages. I use that template so that I can keep track of it.

First of all (fourth if you count Elena85's warnings), please do not merge Tropical Storm "Daylan" (which you misspelled: it's "Dylan," not "Daylan"). And second of all, I agree with you on the grounds that the season is rather stubby, but it was fictional, and I am not finished. Plus, I'd rather Dylan stay where it's at. You may continue editing the seasons, but please be careful.

On the grounds of your fake season, as a result of the large amount of differences between what happened on Planet Ceres and what you created, I'll make up Planet "Ceser" and let you create all of that planet's seasons. Enjoy. <font color="#0080FF">Dy '<font color="009E49">la ' n ' 6 ' 20  Life story  17:36 UTC October 3, 2008

Hurricane Adolph
Please do not make such a move without discussion. If you are ever unsure about something, just don't do it. You removed the content from one page, then put it into another page. That destroyed the edit history, which is a violation of Wikipedia policy. I reverted your changes, but consider this a warning not to any rash behavior in the future, or you could get blocked again. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

season
check WP:WPTC talk, you can't make seasons. Maybe you could update the pacific seasons? --Rose09 Rashmi   Next  18:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NO! Please don't create any new seasons and blank any fake seasons. Work with real hurricane seasons not articles!!!!--Rose09 Rashmi   Next  18:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you check!!!

--Rose09 Rashmi   Next  18:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I won't apologize. Either way, some would delete it anyway. Don't Create any new ones and that is not vandalism WP:DTTR and do not edit on the archives, it is a preserved copy, that is vandalism! If you keep on doing this and reverting other people, and your edit to Adolph was vandalism, that stuff is not supposed to be there and stop telling people that they are vandalizing because you have vandalized more than them ever and Stop REverting!!!

--Rose09 Rashmi   Next  19:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * By the way I responded to you at hurricanehink's talk page and do not call me CRAZY!!! and Now do you know how I feel when ou edit my pages? I didn't do the edit because of that but you are exhausting my last bit of patience!

--Rose09 Rashmi   Next  20:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * DOn't Touch 1990 Season, That is my page and I want it to saty that way and also, did you copy my norman sandbox when you made norman?

--Rose09 Rashmi   Next  21:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Yellow Evan, would you please explain why you moved the 1990 Planet Ceres Atlantic Hurricane season to make it one of your subpages? I can see why Elena85 is upset about it; I would be too, if someone moved one of my subpages to make it their own.

I will let you off the hook this time. But if this happens again, that icon on the upper-left section of my message will turn into this:.

Uh, sorry. I don't know how to make a link to the picture without showing the picture itself.<font color="#0080FF">Dy '<font color="009E49">la ' n ' 6 ' 20  Life story  22:36 UTC October 3, 2008
 * Type [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|thumb]] . <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 23:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Ugh (and other stuff)
I don't know where to start. Please, please be more careful when making your edits. If you are considering doing anything, ask someone else first, and let them do it. For the article you wanted to make on TD 11 in 1999, you moved it to a user page, but then didn't update the redirect. Not to mention, there is already an article on that (which I redirected it to).

Next, could you explain this edit? You reverted the edit of administrator and called it vandalism, which is very bad taste.

You might be interested in this discussion on the WPTC talk page. It deals with the fake season articles, and how they are being considered to be eliminated.

One more question. Is English your first language? Your writing and spelling errors makes it look like either you deliberately misspell, or you don't know how to spell correctly. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, keep in mind, if you ever have an article in user space, please remove any categories that are in there. It is against Wiki-policy to have categories show up in user space. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 00:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Warning
Do not revert changes without consensus, as it is considered vandalism. For example, you restored the article on Tropical Depression Fifteen-E (2008), as well as removed the link to Hurricane Elida (2008) on the WPTC page, without a clear reason. If you continue making these disruptive edits, you will get blocked again, and this time it would be for a longer period of time. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please do not engage in edit warring; this would be your third block for the same reason. You need to remember that editing to Wikipedia is not a guaranteed right, but is rather a privilege that requires following our policies and guidelines. If you continue to willfully break the three-revert rule, you may face longer blocks, or even indefinite revocation of your editing privileges. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 03:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Your WT:WPTC comment
Yellow Evan, how do you explain this? Calling Bud the worst article you have seen is a personal attack. I suggest you consider withdrawing that comment, as you have little room to criticize the quality of articles. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * How can criticizing an article be considered a personal attack? <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 19:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not. However, calling it "the worst article I've seen" can very easily be considered a personal attack towards the creator of the article. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that is a bit of a stretch. It follows the cardinal rule of talking about the content, not the content creator. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 22:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

monthly Newsletter
Number 21, October 4, 2008 The Hurricane Herald This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of September 2008.

''Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve monitoring of the WikiProject's articles.''

As a result of an extended Wikibreak, I will not be able to work on the next month's newsletter. Other users are welcome to get it together. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Storm of the month Hurricane Ike was among the costliest Atlantic hurricanes on record, based on a preliminary damage estimate of $31.5 billion (USD). The ninth named storm, fifth hurricane, and third major hurricane of the 2008 season, Ike developed on September 1 in the tropical Atlantic Ocean. Maintaining a generally westward track throughout its duration, Ike reached Category 4 status on the Saffir-Simpson scale, moving across the Turks and Caicos Islands at that intensity before weakening and crossing Cuba; heavy damage was reported in Cuba, which was still recovering from Hurricane Gustav just weeks prior. Gustav later moved across the Gulf of Mexico and struck near Galveston, Texas, where its effects were estimated as the costliest hurricane in Texas history. Further inland, the storm brought high winds and widespread damage, and its impact reached as far as Canada. Throughout its path, Gustav caused over 100 deaths, mostly in Texas and Haiti, and several hundred remain missing.

Other tropical cyclone activity
 * Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Ike, two hurricanes from the previous month, Gustav and Hanna, lasted into September, both striking the United States. Tropical Storm Josephine formed while Ike and Hanna were active; it remained away from land and dissipated four days after forming. The tropics were quiet in the Atlantic for about 10 days after Ike dissipated, until Hurricane Kyle formed north of Hispaniola; its precursor brought heavy rains to the Greater Antilles, and Kyle ultimately became extratropical as it moved into Atlantic Canada. At the end of the month, Tropical Storm Laura formed from a subtropical cyclone far away from land; it persisted until early October, when it lost tropical characteristics to the southeast of Newfoundland.
 * Eastern Pacific Ocean– The month in the eastern Pacific Ocean was the quietest on record, in terms of ACE index. Early in the month, Tropical Storm Karina lasted for two days without affecting land. A few days later, Tropical Storm Lowell formed and later affected the Baja California peninsula and mainland Mexico as a tropical depression; its remnants merged with the remnants of Ike.
 * Western Pacific Ocean– Five named storms developed in the western Pacific, beginning with Typhoon Sinlaku which became a powerful cyclone before weakening and bringing heavy rainfall to Taiwan; there, it caused 11 deaths and heavy damage, and it later affected Japan. The second storm of the month was Typhoon Hagupit, which caused $1 billion (USD) in damage and 68 deaths when it struck China. Typhoon Jangmi was next, which brought further damage and deaths to Taiwan. Two more tropical storms developed during the month; Mekkhala formed in the South China Sea and caused heavy damage in Vietnam, while Higos moved across the Philippines and later struck China.
 * North Indian Ocean– One deep depression formed during the month, which moved ashore in the Indian province of Orissa; it caused 25 deaths from heavy rainfall.

Member of the month The September member of the month is CrazyC83, who has been a steady editor within the project for the past few years. Lately, the user's contributions include maintaining the current season articles, which is the biggest workload for the project. In the past, however, CrazyC83 was very active in writing articles, and was a proponent for all storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season getting articles. Of note was his contributions to Hurricane Juan, which brought it to featured status and later to the main page.

New and improved articles
 * There were six new pieces of Featured content : Meteorological history of Tropical Storm Allison, 1997 Pacific hurricane season (FT), 2002 Atlantic hurricane season, Image:Hurricane Isabel eye from ISS (edit 1).jpg, Category 5 Pacific hurricanes (FT), and Hurricane Dean
 * New Good articles include: 2002 Pacific hurricane season, Tropical Depression Seven (2003), Hurricane Ekeka (1992), Tropical Storm Emilia (2006), Tropical Storm Hanna (2002), Tropical Storm Erick (2007)
 * New storm articles include: Typhoon Pabuk (2007), Typhoon Angela (1995), Hurricane Fausto (2002), Cyclone Graham, Tropical Storm Josephine (2002), Tropical Storm Miriam (2006)
 * New non-storm articles include: Ocean Prediction Center, Effects of Hurricane Katrina in Florida

Main Page content
 * Image:Hurricane Isabel 18 sept 2003 1555Z.jpg appeared as the picture of the day on September 18
 * Hurricane Gustav, Hurricane Hanna (2008), Hurricane Ike, and Typhoon Hagupit (2008) appeared on In the news during September.
 * Entries from 7 articles: Effects of Hurricane Noel in the United States, Effects of Tropical Storm Allison in Texas, Cyclone Graham, List of storms in the 2001 Atlantic hurricane season, Tropical Storm Gilma (2006), Hurricane Joyce (2000), and Hurricane Bonnie (1998) appeared on the Main Page in the Did you know column during September.

Storm article statistics

Project News Overall, the project has had a relatively uneventful month. One of the most noteworthy events was the selection of 32 tropical cyclone-related articles, that were chosen as part of Wikipedia 0.7. Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. While many of the selected articles are of featured or good quality, several require substantial cleanup and expansion.

In other news, a handful of changes to project standards have taken place. Per a consensus on the project's talk page, the section of each tropical cyclone article previously entitled "Storm history" has been changed to "Meteorological history", thanks in part to Plasticup's bot which preformed the hundreds of edits to execute the change. In addition, a discussion is ongoing regarding the necessity of List of storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, and similar articles for other seasons.

New members
 * Anymediaguy
 * Pérez
 * Jer10 95

Tropical Storm Erick (2007)
Not one edit has been made to Tropical Storm Erick (2007) since its last FAC failed. Why would you nominate it again? ESPECIALLY given the current discussions at WT:FAC and WT:WPTC, it is insulting that you would re-nominate this article only days after its controversial failure. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 22:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

spam
Please stop spamming my talk page with deletion notices. If you want to speedy-delete an article or group (I have no idea why???) the easiest way would be to join IRC (#wiki-hurricanes on irc.freenode.org) and get one of the WPTC admins to do it. — jdorje (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Greater care required when prodding articles
Evan,

I've just been looking at some of the articles that you've proposed for deletion. Ignoring whether they need to be deleted or not, I think you need to take a bit more care when prodding. don't provide enough information and don't make your intentions clear. Please bear the guidelines in mind:

"'Tailor your reason to each individual article; generic messages are not helpful. Use an informative edit summary clearly indicating that the article has been nominated for deletion.'"

I'm assuming that these articles are part of a procedural mass-delete. If that is the case it might be worth asking an admin to do it in bulk rather than prodding, but if you carry on as you have been please add some background to why the article should be deleted. Even if it is copy-pasted, a brief summary like "Deleting as per discussion on project page" or similar (with a link to the discussion) is much more helpful.

Cheers and happy editing, OBM | blah blah blah 16:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Please take greater care when writing articles
For example, this edit to 2008 Pacific hurricane season adds two sentence fragments and a factual inaccuracy. Your next edit was shorter, but equally destructive. Please take more care in editing, or stop editing entirely. The amount of work we have to do cleaning up after you is much greater than your contributions. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 15:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Please fix Hurricane Norbert (2008)
You have created Hurricane Norbert (2008) against the advice of... everyone. If you don't want to see it redirected back to the season article you will need to fix it. Expand the Impact. Create a Preparations section. Write a lead section. Spell check the entire article. Write in complete sentences. Double the length of the Meteorological history. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 23:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I proposed the article for deletion; it doesn't seem that the article is improving any, and it would seem it doesn't meet the article criteria, according to WP:WPTC anyways. Chukonu xbow (talk) 01:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Hurricane Norbert (2008)
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Hurricane Norbert (2008), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Chukonu xbow (talk) 01:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Why did you recreate Hurricane Boris (2008)?
I thought that we all agreed non-notable fish spinners would not be given little articles, and then you created Hurricane Boris (2008). Why? <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 15:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes... Yellow... see:

Please sign your contributions on talk pages
As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Talk page guidelines. Thank you. I have mentioned this before, but you continue to ignore this courtesy. It makes conversations with you very difficult, because I often cannot tell which statements are yours. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 01:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Editing other user's comments at WT:WPTC
Please stop your disruptive editing, here. If your vandalism continues, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 01:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Tropical Storm Dora (2005)
Don't assess your own articles, please. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have quick-failed it's GAN. If the reasons were not obvious, I have enumerated them on the article's talk page. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 20:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Erick (2007)
Please do not remove legitimate content from articles without explanation and discussion on the talk page. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Spelling
Since it does not appear wikipedia has a spell check feature, it would be a good idea to copy the prose you have typed into a word processing program, such as Word or Word Perfect, and spell check it before finalizing any of your edits. People would be more receptive to your edits if you performed this extra step. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

(Quick-adding category "Hurricanes in Mexico" (using HotCat)
What is the purpose of adding a category, removing it, and then adding it back? Please don't do that; it uses resources unnecessarily, confuses people watching the article, and clogs up the article history. If you want to play with WP:HOTCAT, use the WP:SANDBOX. Thanks. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 03:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw the typo:( after adding this. But you should still make sure you spell things correctly. It is still better to do things right the first time. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 03:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, if a category name is spelled wrong, simply section editing the last section of an article will allow category name typos to be corrected without having to remove the incorrectly spelled name in one edit, and then adding the correct spelling in a subsequent edit. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 03:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

3RR at Talk:Tropical Storm Dora (2005)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 03:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * While on the topic of Dora, do not remove cleanup tags without a justified reason to do so. In this particular case, much of the article is a copy and paste of the TCR, which, while not a copyright violation, prompts the need for cleanup. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  23:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Because the damage was from Ike, not Lowell. To say otherwise is rather factually incorrect. Indeed, the remnants of Lowell were absorbed into the remnants of Ike, but one sentence discussing such in Tropical Storm Lowell (2008) is more than sufficient.
 * Regarding Dora, it's not a little thing. Copying and pasting much of the article from another source is quite not encyclopedic. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  23:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * All of which only briefly mention events which they partially contributed to. I want you to go through the references associated with the Damage section of Lowell, and remove the ones which don't mention Lowell at all. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  23:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

HotCat
Please take care when using HotCat; check for errors and typos before saving, and make sure the category is being used correctly and appropriately. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 02:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Bad news
You should see this. If you want to keep your fake hurricane pages one way or another, it's very important.  D ' y ' l ' a ' n ' 6 ' 2  0  Life story  21:10 UTC October 15, 2008

There's a way to save your fake hurricane pages. Even though they will probably be deleted from Wikipedia, I can copy them on to Wikia for you; on Wikia, it is okay to make up fake stuff, including our Planet Ceres fake hurricanes and seasons. If you want to still be able to view your pages, you must reply to this message ASAP.  D ' y ' l ' a ' n ' 6 ' 2  0  Life story  18:32 UTC October 16, 2008
 * Courtesy note. The outcome of the deletion discussion was to delete the involved pages. <font color="#2A8B31">Anthøny (talk) 01:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

GAN
I wasn't trying to delete the GAN things, I reduced it to a start, make Storm history longer and get different references too --Kirk76 1854 Atlantic   Hurricane Season  14:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Max and Otis
I've reviewed Otis officially. Max at least has a better quality of writing, but the same issues apply. I've had articles failed which were more complete Max and Otis. They don't have the required sections needed for GA tropical cyclones, which are outlined on the project main page. Consult the manual of style for what to include in a lead section. See MoS for wikilinks. A dictionary would be helpful for Otis. You have until October 25 before I rule finally on Otis, unless someone else thinks they can quick fail it in the meantime (I don't think they can, based upon wikipedia guidelines.) I'm not optimistic on GA passage for either article, unless you're willing to put in the 10-20 hours of work it will likely require to improve each article. Thegreatdr (talk) 15:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Three more days. There has been little evidence of improvements to this article so far, so its future as a GA is not looking bright.  Thegreatdr (talk) 17:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * For Max, the other reviewer might give you some slack since others of us have been helping that article out and it has been improving/expanding, even during your break. For Otis, however, I won't.  This is because you've been focusing on other endeavors during its review process (even during your forced wikibreak) and have shown no effort so far in improving the article, even within your user space.  This article requires so much work, stated within its review, that two more days is unlikely to make a difference anyhow.  You have two days left.  If it is failed, you can always resubmit it.  People are reviewing articles much more timely than they used to, so you will only have to wait days instead of weeks for another review, if it is failed.  Thegreatdr (talk) 11:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Disruption
in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

You are blocked for 48 hours for your continuous disruptive editing. Seriously, Yellow Evan, you need to start listening to others' comments, and stop being so rash in reverting others. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:37, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Reaserch
Hurricane Hernan (2008) RV

Hernan
Sorry, Yellow Evan, but I don't think that Hurricane Hernan (2008) is quite ready for being a FAC. But I did read over the article, and judging by what I've read, it is possibly the best article so far in the 2008 Pacific hurricane season series. You have another hit. But we need maximum sources and information for Hernan to be featured, unless we are already there. I'll try nominating it as a dry run nomination to see what the reviewer thinks. If the reviewer approves, we'll nominate Hernan as a FAC. Lounge with  Dylan620   today!  21:57 UTC October 18, 2008
 * FAC for Hernan failed due to your 48 hour block. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please note, don't comment on a featured article discussion that has already been archived. I did try to keep it up, but User:SandyGeorgia determined that it wouldn't pass regardless of the support. Over the next few weeks, I'll do some minor tweaks to it, get a peer review, and then it should pass FAC. :) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Evan, please let the article's writers submit it to FAC. They are the ones building it, they will know when it is finished, and they deserve the credit. <font color="#0080FF">Plasticup  <font color="#2A8E82">T /<font color="#2A8E82"> C 15:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Virginal
Hurricane Virgil was a late season hurricane of the 1992 Pacific hurricane season that struck southwestern Mexico in October 1992. The twentith named storm and seventh major hurricane of the 1992 season, Virgil's winds reached category 4 intensity on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale before making landfall in Western Mexico (between the towns of Lazaro Cardenas and Manzanillo) as a category 3 storm.

One person was declared missing and three people were injured as a result of Virgil and the storm damaged or destroyed over 1500 houses.

Storm history
On September 13, a tropical wave exited the western coast of Africa and crossed the Atlantic Ocean and Caribbean Sea without development. On September 25, the system crossed Panama and moved into the eastern Pacific Ocean. Convection began to develop in the tropical wave but the system stayed disorganized until September 30.

Hazel
Hazel was a devastating Mexico cyclone.

Impact
At least six persons where dead and thousands homeless today from the northwest Mexican states of Sinaloa and Nayarit.

Officials estimated the damage at $10 million from the sixhour battering by cyclone Hazel. The shrimp fleet, Mazatlan's economic base, suffered major damage, officials said. The cyclone packed winds of up to 68 miles an hour. The known dead in Mazatlan were two fishermen who tried to ride out the storm aboard their boat and a boy electrocuted by a fallen power line. Three persons were reported killed by a broken power line in a rural area of Nayarit.

Authorities feared the toll would rise as reports come in from areas isolated by flood waters. About 10,000 persons fled Mazatlan's low - lying slums, the hardest hit area of the city. Thousands of flimsy shacks of wood, tin and cardboard were washed away or covered by muddy waters as deep as 6 feet. Highways and bridges along the winding coast were washed out by floods. Shipbuilder Tomas de Rueda Jr. said weather information from stations in Mexico and San Francisco had put the storm well out to sea on a course away from Mazatlan. "We were unprepared to face the nightmare which hit us," he said. "We were taken completely unaware." About 55,000 acres of cotton, corn and sorghum were reported lost in the rich agricultural area of southern Sinaloa. Meanwhile, tropical s t o rm Debbie, with winds up to 35 miles an hour, threatened the opposite side of the country. Ships along the Gulf of Mexico were told to head for shelter.

At least six Tucsonians were reported dead to have been in the Mazatlan area when tropical storm Hazel struck the Mexican community. Because of a breakdown in communication facilities, there has been no word from the Tucsonians, relatives reported.

More than 50 fishing boats sunk or dam- i aged by tropical storm Hazel which battered the Pacific Coast port of Mazatlan, Mexico, for six hours with winds up to 68 miles an hour.

Retirement
Due to to damage, Hazel was retired.

Storms
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Stroms
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You're not the boss
Excuse me, I didn't know you suddenly took control over what I can and can't do. For one, I can create any article I feel like making, second you are not in a position to be remotely close to telling people to work on a certain topic, third, learn how to write using proper spelling and grammar, and fourth listen to what people say when they give input on your edits, because it's really annoying to many of us that you're ignoring our comments and doing exactly what we asked you not to do. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Last warning
I see that you removed my message last night; that doesn't make the warning non-existent. It shows me that you read the comment, and that you know how to edit while adhering to policy. This edit reverted the merging of an article you created, which was done so as the result of a talk page discussion. This article, along with the dozens of others you have created, violate many, many Wikipedia policies, and/or WPTC standards. You as an editor have to discuss the matter on the talk page before ignoring consensus, and refusing the listen to other editors' guidance. If you continue in this destructive manner of editing, you will be blocked. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Regarding that message your mother wrote, can you make sure she reads my response? Also, I suggest that you wait before creating more articles, as Nora seems to need too much work to be published at the moment. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  23:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: EPAC Storms
Its simple there is not enough infomation for the EPAC, to support articles for all EPAC Storms weather they be fishspinners or not. Jason Rees (talk) 15:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If you would like to avoid a further block after your current one runs out then listen to advice that myself and others have given you.Jason Rees (talk) 15:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Just so you know i would support articles for all storms providing there is enough Infomation for them and the article isnt poorly written Jason Rees (talk) 13:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Warning re.
I'm quite sure that it doesn't matter. Most of my work is done in one edit anyways, Also, I couldn't move the sandbox because the article had been previously made, for Elida, you made an article which was merged, and douglas was a redirect page. I don't think you should be giving me warnings though, pay more attention to your actions and avoid being banned yourself. I can take care of myself and if I'm doing anything wrong an admin like Juliancolton will notify me of such actions. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's too late now anyways, both articles are completed and rated GA. Don't worry about the edit history too much. I don't think it really is all that important. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * See my reply at Cyclonebiskit's talk page. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Nora sandbox
I notice you are working on a sandbox for Hurricane Nora (2003). May I please help? -- Dylan620 ( yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 22:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the (relatively) slow response, but OK! We just need to find any additional good sources that we don't already have, and we'll be all set. Dylan620 ( yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 09:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Too Late - I finished it in 5 minutes. Itfc+canes=me <font color="#66666">Talk <font color="#66666">Contributions  17:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Another article request re.
Sure thing. Since I'm in school right now, I can't work on it right now. I should be able to work on it during lunch and free. Since it is a short lived storm it should be quick to finish. I'll leave a note here when it's finished. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It'll take longer than expected. Sorry for the inconvenience. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article that you requested, Tropical Storm Lidia (2005), has been completed. If there are any other articles which you would like me to create or work on, leave a note on my talk page. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 13:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I might not have it done by sunday since I have two other articles to do beforehand. I'll notify you when I start the article so you'll have an idea when it will be completed. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:00, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Ele
I saw your post, please don't do ELE!!! I am doing it.--Kirk76 1854 Atlantic   Hurricane Season  20:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Welcome!
Um, thanks, I guess... –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not if the articles aren't up to C-class standards. Nominating an article at GAN doesn't make it inherently good. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Newsletter/Archive 22
Please do not add information about fake hurricane seasons to the WPTC newsletter; it's not project news. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  20:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Yellow Evan/Make up hurricane season 2
Just so you know... technically it is. I can't move using huggle but I suggest you move to another name. Other wise I will report for AFD. Sorry.... can you wish your Mum well and tell her thanks for the explanations... User:Itfc+canes=me <font color="Orange">Talk  Contributions  21:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Hernan (2008) A-class article review request
Evan, as previously stated in the FAC for Hernan, the major contributer to the article should be the one to nominate the article for things which need peer reviews. You need to notify me of such if you want to go further with an article of yours (by which I mean you created) that I've rewrote and completed. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Semi-protect will not pass, there has not been any vandalism recently. There's no need for it. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

What's Nevada Day?
Really, what is it? You speak about it in your signature. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 13:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! Although not now, I do plan on visiting there some day. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 14:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home ,User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox,H, E,HE 18:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

BTW, Evan, there's a Las Vegas WikiProject, if you want to join. --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 19:27, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Your signature
Please shrink it. It is very distracting. Please remove it as soon as possible. Thanks.<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT>32(UP) 15:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am not attacking you. All I am asking is that you remove stuff from your signature. <FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT>32(UP) 15:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Your signature really does border on disruptive, and somebody has opened a discussion on the Admin noticeboard about it. Please see WP:AN. Please reduce the size of your signature. - <font color="#000080">auburn <font color="#CC5500">pilot  talk  17:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, I have removed the excesses from the help desk already. Theresa Knott | token threats 17:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a friendly suggestion from me. How would you feel about something like
 * Yellow Evan, messages, sandbox, contribs

or
 * Yellow Evan, messages, sandbox, hits

Regards, Double Blue  (Talk) 19:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. It was just in case you were interested in alternatives. Cheers! Double Blue  (Talk) 20:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! That's much better. Theresa Knott | token threats 21:32, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #22
Number 22, November 2, 2008 The Hurricane Herald This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of October 2008.

''Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve monitoring of the WikiProject's articles.''

Storm of the month

Deep Depression ARB 02 caused the 2008 Yemen floods. On October 19 the IMD noted that an area of low pressure which located to the south east of Salalah, Oman had intensifed in to a tropical depression and was assigned the number ARB 02. On October 21 IMD updated the system to a Deep Depression while it lay 700 km south of Salalah, Oman near the east coast of Somalia. It lost its strength while crossing the Gulf of Aden due to entry of dry air and land interaction as it passed close to the northeastern coast of Somalia. It later was downgraded to a Depression, named TC 03B by the JTWC. On October 24 it made landfall on the south-eastern coast of Yemen, leaving at least 26 civilians and six soldiers dead while trapping hundreds of people due to flooding and torrential rainfalls. The latest figure of casualties is of 184 persons dead and 100 others missing, mostly from the region of Hadhramawt, where the storm made landfall. A total of 733 houses were destroyed in the governorates of Hadhramaut and Al Mahrah, while 22,000 people were displaced. The Yemeni Government declared the two aforementioned governorates as disaster zones.

Other tropical cyclone activity


 * Atlantic Ocean– In the Atlantic, four tropical cyclones formed this October. Tropical Storm Marco formed in the Bay of Campeche on October 6. It made landfall on October 8 and is one of the smallest Atlantic tropical cyclones since 1988. Tropical Storm Nana formed October 12 in the middle of the open Atlantic. It had no impact anywhere and dissipated October 14. Hurricane Omar formed October 13 and dissipated October 18. Eventually peaking as a Category 4 hurricane, Omar passed through the Lesser Antilles twice, including once near peak intensity. Fortunately, it caused only one indirect death. Tropical Depression Sixteen formed on October 16 and dissipated two days later after making landfall. It killed 16 to 20 people in Central America.


 * Eastern Pacific Ocean– In the eastern north Pacific, three tropical cyclones formed this October. Hurricane Norbert formed October 3 and dissipated October 12. The strongest storm thus far this season, Norbert is the first hurricane to strike the west coast of the Baja California Peninsula since 1968. Eight deaths have been blamed on the hurricane.. Tropical Storm Odile formed October 8 and paralleled the coast of Mexico before dissipating on October 12. Tropical Depression Seventeen-E formed on October 23 and dissipated the next day without impacting land.


 * Western Pacific Ocean– In the western north Pacific, two tropical cyclones formed. Tropical Storm Bavi formed October 18 in the open Pacific. It never came near land and dissipated three days later. Tropical Depression Twenty Two-W formed on October 13 in the Gulf of Tonkin and made landfall on October 15. It dissipated inland the next day.


 * North Indian– In the northern Indian Ocean, two cyclones formed. Besides Deep Depression ARB 02, which caused flooding that killed 184 people in Yemen, Cyclonic Storm Rashmi formed October 25 and made landfall three days later. It killed two people.


 * South-West Indian – The 2008-09 South West Indian Ocean Season got off to an early start with two pre season zones of disturbed weather. The first zone of disturbed weather formed on October 6 and did not develop any further. Whilst the second zone of disturbed weather formed on October 16 and developed in to Moderate Tropical Storm Asma.

Member of the month The October member of the month is Hurricanehink. Since joining the project near its inception, Hurricanehink has been involved in bringing forty two articles, eighteen lists and six topics to featured status. Just this month, Hurricanehink was mentioned in the Signpost Dispatch. Hurricanehink has also been the regular distributor for this newsletter.

New members
 * Izmir2
 * Emarsee
 * HairyPerry
 * Dylan620
 * Yellow Evan

New and improved articles
 * There were new pieces of Featured content : Timeline of the 2007 Pacific hurricane season, Tropical Storm Hanna (2002), Timeline of the 2006 Pacific hurricane season
 * New Good articles include: Hurricane Hernan (2008), Effects of Tropical Storm Allison in Texas, Hurricane Joyce (2000), Hurricane Elida (2008), Tropical Storm Lester (2004), Tropical Storm Arlene (1959), Tropical Storm Rosa (2006), Cyclone Daman, Hurricane Donna, Hurricane Rosa (1994), 1994 Pacific hurricane season, Hurricane Fern (1971)
 * New storm articles include: Tropical Storm Dora (2005), Tropical Storm Karina (2008), Hurricane Norbert (2008), Cyclone Cliff, Tropical Storm Arlene (1959), Tropical Storm Rosa (2006), Hurricane Otis (2005), Tropical Storm Kika (2008), Cyclone Elisa (2008), Tropical Storm Lidia (2005), Tropical Depression Fifteen (2007), Tropical Depression Seven (2002)
 * New non-storm articles include: 1966 Pacific hurricane season, 1854 Atlantic hurricane season, Timeline of the 2003 Pacific hurricane season, 2009 North Indian Ocean cyclone season

Main Page content
 * Entries from articles: Tropical Storm Lester (2004), Hurricane Rosa (1994), Tropical Storm Kirsten (1966), 1854 Atlantic hurricane season appeared on the Main Page in the Did you know column during October.
 * Meteorological History of Hurricane Wilma appeared as Today's Featured Article on October 26.
 * 2008 Yemen floods, caused by Deep Depression ARB 02, appeared on the Main Page in the In the News section.

Storm article statistics Project News A discussion concerning sandboxes for next year's articles has begun. Please consider working on sandboxes so they will be ready to publish. As tropical cyclones can form at any time in the western Pacific and northern Indian Oceans, these two season's should be made ready for cyclones by December. Ideally, due to the possibility of pre-season storms, the eastern Pacific and Atlantic seasons should also be ready by then, but they should at least be ready by the northern-Hemisphere antipeak in late February and early March. Seasons for the years 2010 to 2015 should be given the name "Post-2009 {ocean name} {cyclone term} seasons", as in "Post 2009 Atlantic hurricane seasons".

A category for tropical cyclone articles of very-low importance has been introduced. Although discussion is still ongoing, a rating of very-low-importance will generally be given to weak cyclones that do not have impact or set any sort of record.

Editorial This month, our usual editor, Hurricanehink, has been on a semi-wikibreak until further notice. I am filling in as editor and distributor on an interim basis. The newsletter will continue as normal during that time. Thank you. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:52, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Comment
Heya. First, is that Wikibreak you are taking for real, as in you won't edit at all until that break is over? Good luck pulling that off. Second, I was really hoping that the next time you left a post on my talk page, it would not contain a single typo. I have no idea what you said on my page. Please, please, please take as much time as possible to ensure that every edit you make does not contain a single typo. Third, I have been checking around every once in a while, and from what I've seen you still haven't changed that much, as in you're still a negative force within the project. Please, do not act like you know what you are doing if you do not. Edit like this, in which you only say "Fix" in the edit summary when in reality you do much more, are negative edits to the project, as nobody knows what you are doing. I found it quite rude when you "Welcomed" Juliancolton, and I also found it rude when you wrote a warning to Cyclonebiskit, when he did nothing wrong. You need to read up on policy before you make rash edits. Also, I was a little surprised when I read this edit, in which you said you wouldn't be back until December 12, but you're still editing normally. I'll see you around. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I sort of understand what you said. However, you are still making problematic edits, despite your supposed break. I'll say it plainly - if you don't know what you're doing or you don't know what you're talking about, don't do anything without asking. You changed the statistics page by thinking Lowell was still included. First of all, that is a bad thing to assume, since it's easy enough to check that the two EPAC stub articles are Boris 08 and Odile 08. Second, you changing that one stat would wreck the rest of the stats, which took me about an hour to do last night. Please be more considerate of other people's work. Next, you keep adding non-notable storms to the vital articles for the WPTC list, this time adding Kenneth 05 and Daniel 06. I'll say it plainly right now. Do not change the importance of something unless there is a consensus to do so. I'll extend that to your edits on Wikipedia in general. Please do not change anything on Wikipedia unless you know what you're doing.

I know you are young. Perhaps Wikipedia isn't the best place for such a young person. If you choose to stay, then you really need to learn Wikipedia's rules and policies. If you don't do that, and you keep up your current actions, you'll probably eventually be blocked. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't really care about the EPAC articles. What I'm telling you is that your edits are problematic, and that extends to making new, poorly written articles. I'll repeat what I said before. Do not change the importance of something unless there is a consensus to do so. I'll extend that to your edits on Wikipedia in general. Please do not change anything on Wikipedia unless you know what you're doing. I know you are young. Perhaps Wikipedia isn't the best place for such a young person. If you choose to stay, then you really need to learn Wikipedia's rules and policies. If you don't do that, and you keep up your current actions, you'll probably eventually be blocked. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I very much doubt you know what you are doing. You had the signature problem. You were blocked while I was away. You still don't know how to spell. You don't know anything about page-protection, despite you making several requests on the protection page. Despite overwhelming consensus you kept re-adding unnecessary information to the page on Lowell. You don't know how to properly use edit summaries; labeling this edit as a "fix" is very disruptive, as there's no way Hurricane John in 2006 was top class. I'll say it again, please don't act like you know what you're doing. Instead, you should ask for help when you don't know what you're doing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure. What do you need help with? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit review
OK, I'll start right now. Your last edit summary was "answer". A good edit summary should be more than one word, particularly on articles and articles' talk pages. For user talk pages, one word summaries are usually alright, but it's not a good habit to get into. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:43, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This edit summary, saying merely "fix image" is not good. You should avoid saying "fix" in your edit summary. Instead, say what you did. For that edit summary, you should've said something like "changing image alignment", or something like that. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The Hernan edit seemed to be a relatively good edit. Cyclonebiskit continued what you started by continuing the altering of the images. Your latest image might not have been so good, as you changed the placement for no reason. And, I just checked, Cyclonebiskit reverted your edit. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Careful, it looks like you might be getting into an edit war. When that happens, rather than continuing to revert, you need to talk with the other party and find a solution. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright, you're still making the same problems. First, be sure that in every edit that you spell every word correctly. If you can't get past that, then you'll never make it anywhere on Wikipedia. Second, you need to explain your edits better. I saw two edit summaries in which you merely said "answer". That is a problem, especially if your actual edit doesn't make much sense in context. Take your edit you made on Fay's talk page. You said "1.80 billion sounds more reasanadle", and wrote an edit summary of just "answer". Nobody asked a question, which leaves me very confused what you were talking about. Also, I found your edit to the 2008 Pacific hurricane season article confusing, when you added a ton more information on Hernan. You should provide more explanation for what you are doing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

You need to stop saying "answer" in your edit summary. You like you were spamming the talk page for 2008 PHS, with all of the records nonsense. I would consider them bad edits. They had little point from what I read. If you did have a point, you should've made them much clearer. Also, your comment on Hernan 08's FAC was pointless. Nobody on the page cared whether or not it was a fishspinner (and most didn't even know what that was). I think that is a great lesson - don't make a comment on a talk page if no one will care about it.

Since the weekend is over, I will be going back to my Wikibreak, and I'll likely not be returning until later this month. If you have any questions, you should ask some of the project regulars, but please don't ignore the advice I gave you. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 05:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

New message
Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Your signature
Not sure if you've spotted it, but there's a stray square bracket at the end of your sig...at least, I guess it's stray! GbT/c 15:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Hernan (2008) recent edits
Evan, please think over what you are going to do to an article before you do it. The forecast track serves no importance to the article, hence why it's been removed. The other images are in the correct positions and don't need to be moved. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Tina sandbox
May I please help? --Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 23:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Check your sandbox; you're going to like the changes I've made (which can truly be found here). I hope you don't mind, but I removed the 1992 Pacific hurricane season category from the sandbox; wait until the sandbox is released into the main article space to add categories.

P.S.: Just like how you quick-added the category via HotCat, I quick-removed it using the same tool.

--Dylan620 ( Home •  yadda yadda yadda  •  Ooooohh! ) 17:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

2008 Pacific hurricane season
Evan, Tropical Storm Polo was never forecast to become a hurricane, the strongest it was forecast to become was 70mph, just short of hurricane status. I'm telling you this here because I don't want to start another edit war. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

2006 PHS
Now that I'm back, I'll be finishing 2006 PHS in the next few days, since I have a sandbox that is nearly complete. Also, now that I'm back, I'm curious why you are so adamant you are on a break. It seems like every edit summary you make says "returning to break after this", but you've never actually stopped editing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:27, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure what you're doing. I have 2006 PHS under control. Also, I suggest that when you make tests like this on the Fabio page, that you undo your changes quickly. I don't really care what the rationale was, but if it was a test that had no point, then such a change should not remain there. And I'll ask again - how come you say you've been on break, when you haven't stopped editing at all? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about the list of article. Once my sandbox is ready, the main article will be moved over to the list of article. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, you really shouldn't be copying entire articles into your sandbox. It destroys their edit histories. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I told you, I have the season under control. You shouldn't have GA nom'd those articles which weren't yours and weren't ready, especially if you're still "on break" right now. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't make this any clearer. I'm already working on finishing up 2006 PHS for the FT. You don't have to work on it. I plan on working on Ileana and Carlotta as well, meaning you can withdraw their GAN's if you want. Within the next week I should be done. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if I'm rude, but I don't need any of your work. Moreover, I can't use any of your work, as your list article is in bad shape. That's why I told you I'd be finishing the project, so you wouldn't have to waste your time. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Note
Please do not preform tests on articles, as you did with Tropical Storm Fabio (2006). If you would like to test, please use the Sandbox. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  03:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

2008 Pacific hurricane season note
Evan, since when has the WPTC stated that it is against policies to merge an article? I honestly think you're making that up yourself with no proof that is not of your own doing to back it up. Thus, I am removing the link to the merged Odile article, which should remained merged unless the article has been expanded to a sufficient length to deserve to keep that article. Do not revert the removal of the article. If you have any complaints about this, please consult an admin of such. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 22:03, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Karina (2008)
Please remove your merge proposal. If an article of yours is merged, you are not to disrupt Wikipedia by proposing a merge of another article. If you continue to edit disruptively, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This post further evidences your intent to edit disruptively. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Does your proposal to merge Tropical Storm Karina (2008) still stand? If not, please take the steps necessary to remove the notice from the article and its talk page. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:38, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: adopation
Sure, but you have to learn not to edit disruptively. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  23:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Warning
Stop being disruptive. You've been warned several times before of what not to do, yet you ignore it. For example, you keep adding the impact from Ike to information on Lowell. If you add information about Ike to an article/section on Lowell, you will be blocked. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Archived talk page
This comment was deleted in the revert Evan, I have archived comments which are not from november (this month) from your talk page. The page was extremely large and was becoming a burden to deal with when it comes to loading this page. I have added an archive folder to the page also for easy access to the archived comments. If you have any thoughts about this archiving, please leave a note on my talk page before reverting, thanks. This action was only to help, not hinder. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 01:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Article creation
Yellow Evan,

Many editors have repeatedly tried to advise you about your actions and contributions, which, with all due respect, are somewhat disruptive. The biggest issue is what I assume to be lack of inclination to learn how to write articles well, with correct grammar, and with sufficient information, referencing. In short, the articles you create fail to meet project and Wikipedia standards, and we've tried to explain this to you numerous times. However, you continue to write such articles without putting any effort into improving, or even reading Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines. This is especially true with articles on storms of the 2005 Pacific hurricane season. User:Cyclonebiskit is trying to improve that series of articles. Unfortunately, you have created rather poor articles, which cause more work for Cyclonebiskit, and more stress on the WPTC as a whole. I'm not by any means trying to discourage you from contributing; it's obvious that you have good intent. But until you learn how to write articles that conform to Wikipedia's standards, I'm going to have to ask you once again to stop creating articles for a while. Further action may be necessary if you continue do ignore the advise that editors provide.

Thank you. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You haven't been taking a break, though. Nearly every edit summary contains the term "break begins now", even though you have yet to actually take a break from editing. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Why? re.
Read over the FAC, don't post in it, just read. But the basic summary of it is that the article is to excessively detailed, which is a problem since for an article to be an FA one of the qualifications is that it is of sufficient length and detail, but not excessive detail. I have to rewrite the article for it to pass, but it's best to not worry about it and leave it as is for now. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Quik question
Yes. I'll try to get around to expanding. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  04:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Are you ready?
Ok, but do you mind if we use a different format that what's already there? –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't understand that question. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it would be easier for me (and more productive for you) if that page was formatted similar to User:Dylan620/School. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)