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Timelines
Might need your help. STO12 won't give up on the timeline symbols. See his talk page. United States Man (talk) 20:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

JTWC
This is the JTWCs website: http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/ and not http://www.australiasevereweather.com/cyclones/index.html.Jason Rees (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC) The only thing i use it for is GPs summaries.Jason Rees (talk) 01:33, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Blocking on Hurricane Wiki
Sorry if I had started an edit war and got us both blocked. I don't understand that 4-revert rule, it doesn't make any sense! So one person gets their way, and the other has to be blocked, I don't think that's very fair. Does user Isaac829 even know what he's doing? I thought Wikia was a free editing community, and the revert+block policy goes against the free editing rules on the main Wikia page, who made this rule? And how can we prevent this from happening again? Would you like to help me figure this out? STO12 (talk) 03:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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OWNing images
I know that nobody owns images; which is why my edit summary was what it was in reply to Supportstorm's "Whoever keeps replacing my images I'm going to hurl a cinder black at you".--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Supportstorm's edit was labeled a minor edit, by clicking the This is a minor edit checkbox on edits. It'll hide it from people who have set their watchlist that way, and means in theory that it's an uncontroversial fix that no one should object to.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:19, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter
The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:
 * 1) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
 * 2) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
 * 3) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
 * 4) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
 * 5) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
 * 6) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
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re: Norman
I wouldn't include it yet. The floods might be article worthy, but at the moment it's unclear. I'd wait to see if the media picks up on calling it Norman more, or if any NWS offices do so as well. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, there is a new article called 2012-13 United States winter storm season that is providing information about the new naming system that The Weather Channel is giving major winter storms. I would much appreciate help from you there. I understand that you might be only based around tropical cyclones, but the way that the page should look is expected to be similar to most hurricane articles. Stop by and comment on the talk page if you would like to help, thanks! STO12 (talk) 22:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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"WPTC sucks"
Regarding your edit summary here, what sort of different info would a Hector article have than what's already in the season article and what's in Ernesto's article? The WPTC is just a project. If you want something changed, you can propose it or do it yourself :) --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Why does WPTC suck because of what I said? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But I don't understand. We already have the season article, why would there have to be another article to cover what's already there! :) ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But could you explain your logic why you don't like how it's done? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, we had the argument over the past few years, and the general consensus was that not every storm should get an article. Do you disagree with that? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Then how can you be such a strong proponent of your proposal number 1? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But why? That's the same mentality that all storms should get articles, if a storm reaches an arbitrary wind threshold that it should automatically get an article. How is that a good idea if there isn't enough info to write on it? How is it better to have hundreds of additional articles when we already have hundreds of stubs and start class articles? How is it better to have a two paragraph separate article on a Category 4 hurricane when the same two paragraphs would fit in fine in the season article? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:02, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm more talking why those articles shouldn't be created. We have an existing precedent. It'd be more dramatic to change that and go through all of that drama again. So why is a Category 4 hurricane more notable in 1988 than 1987? Why is it more worthy of an article? Is there that much information on any post-1988 Category 4+ hurricane that can't fit in a season section? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But they shouldn't automatically get an article. No article should. If there's too much for a season section, then I can see it getting split off, like longer storms like Nadine 12. But they shouldn't be split off automatically. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Even most articles shouldn't automatically be split off. The current WP standard is that if there is too much info to fit comfortably into the section of a season article, then it gets split off. How does that make the project suck? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

But that seemed to be your biggest point of contention, that we deal with season articles and sub-articles in the consistent manner that I outlined above? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Why not? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But most seasons don't indicate why it was inactive or not. Why have 15 sub-articles for a season, half of them only two paragraphs long, and give each of those storms at least a one paragraph summary? Do you have any idea how much redundancy that is? How is that much redundancy actually good for the encyclopedia? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:48, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But again, do you realize how much redundancy that is? How is that a god idea? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

UVU in WAC
I'm not sure why you wrote "Source?" when I cited Salt Lake Tribune on the addition of UVU to the WAC. Why did you revert my edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reds0xfan (talk • contribs) 02:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Paul damage total
Regarding this edit, be sure you add the source to Paul's damage total to the season article. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:20, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But it has to be in the article somewhere. Otherwise there is a citation violation. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That's not in the article though. It has to be in the physical article for 2012 PHS. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:42, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just add the source from Paul's article into Paul's section. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:54, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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Timeline artice
I've posted a discussion on the talk page. I've tried doing so on his talk page with no success. Like I said, this really shouldn't be an issue. We had a perfectly good, sourced article before. Now it's unsourced and missing information. The edits should either be done in segments or in a sandbox. There's no need to gut the article and rewrite the whole thing, leaving it blank and unsourced in the mean time. Inks.LWC (talk) 05:14, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 October newsletter
The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to, our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: (2007),  (2008),  (2009),  (2010) and  (2011). Our final standings were as follows:



Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.


 * The featured article award goes to, for four featured articles in the final round.
 * The good article award also goes to, for 19 good articles in the second round.
 * The list award goes to, for three featured lists in the final round.
 * The topic award goes to, for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4.
 * The did you know award goes to, for well over 100 DYKs in the final round.
 * The news award goes to, for 10 in the news items in round 3.
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 * Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article frog to featured status, a biostar has been awarded to.

Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.

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Discussions concerning non-tropical cyclones
Since you've been involved with articles on non-tropical cyclones in the past, I thought this might be a relevant area for you to give some input. At the moment, there is discussion going on about whether we should adopt The Weather Channel's new procedure of using names for winter storms that will have a significant impact. There are two discussions going on: an AFD of the article about the current winter storm season and a proposal to not use TWC's naming system as the title for an ongoing storm. Out of full disclosure, I've started both of those discussions, and while I have my own opinions, I wanted to get fresh opinions from editors who, like me, have a history of editing similar articles in the past. Thank you. Inks.LWC (talk) 20:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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NHC review
Everything I could deal with has been dealt with. I still can't find anything (online or otherwise) about when the HWO's were disbanded. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:42, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

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Cyclone Osea
Did you see that the DYK for this page has been held up? You'll need to review another nomination before this can be approved for DYK. Nyttend (talk) 03:09, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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DYK for Cyclone Yali (1998)
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Sigh
Thanks for reminding me why I generally don't do more here than correct the occasional typo in articles I read. For better or worse, Wikipedia's become a bureaucracy. The OR policy is generally a good thing, and I'll admit that strictly speaking it isn't yet official that Miriam will be on the 2018 list, but given that it was so inconsequential that it doesn't even rate an article of its own, the only way it won't be on the 2018 list is if they toss out the current naming system altogether. In any case, the article needed to be edited so as to not make it sound as if the name hadn't been used yet this year, which I've done. Carolina wren (talk) 18:03, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cyclone Osea
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Local Time
Whats the problem with adding into Evan what the local time is? When i wrote the article i opted to call it UTC +13 to keep it simple rather than adding in WST, FDT and NZDT all of which are UTC +13.Jason Rees (talk) 19:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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