User talk:Yelloweyeddemon

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Speedy deletion nomination of John B. Ford
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John B. Ford
Hi, I hate to bother you, but do you have any references to prove this person is notable? This article has many serious issues. Bearian (talk) 21:26, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I suspect that it will be difficult to find internet sources for references, as the bulk of Mr. Ford's writing was published in the late 1990s. The most recent entry in the bibliography (copied from the Rainfall site) is five years old.

I'm a huge fan of horror literature in general, and 19th C./early 20th C. horror in particular. Mr. Ford was a leading figure in a group of predominantly British authors who wrote and published horror stories following in that great tradition. In the late 90s-early 00s, they formed a sizeable portion of the independent press, putting out high quality, perfectbound, professionally printed magazines in small press runs.

Ford's Terror Tales was one of the biggest of these publications. The other leading publications in this genre were Enigmatic Tales, The Dream Zone (both British), and Penny Dreadful (American). I still have copies of many of these, and other, magazines which I believe mention and/or contain reviews of Mr. Ford and his work.

Both Mr. Ford's writings and his publication were continually mentioned in The Mammoth Book of Best New Horror (a UK summary of notable events in the horror genre) during the above mentioned period.

I shall, however, search for articles pertaining to Mr. Ford over the next few weeks.

Wikipedia seems to have all of the really big topics covered in detail. I just ran a search for a little known philosopher whose book I'd discovered by accident at a used book sale over a quarter century ago, and was surprised to find an article on him here. My goal in contributing to Wiki (assuming that I stick around) is to create new articles on lesser known authors, books, actors, films, places, historical personages, etc., that have affected me in a positive manner. The 2 ariticles I've initiated so far (those of Mr. Ford, and the 1974 cult film, Moonchild) being examples.

I am hoping that my fellow editors at Wiki will be open to expanding Wikipedia's scope to include topics that might fall slightly to the left of the proverbial beaten path.

adminhelp An article I submitted on the cult film, Moonchild, has been declined. Apparently the declining "editor" felt that IMDB and AMC Guide were not reliable sources. News Flash! These are 2 of the biggest sources out there. Please restore the article and smack the oxymoronic "crimsonblue" on his limp wrist.
 * While I can't say anything about AMC, having never heard of it, IMDB is not a reliable source, as it is anonymous-user generated content like Wikipedia, except that they don't use references. Perhaps you should find some better sources.-- Jac 16888 Talk 20:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

THE AMG Guide (quoted in reference #2) is a well known reference book sold in all the major book stores (like Barnes & Noble). Here's a link to their website: http://www.allmovie.com/work/moonchild-102815

AMG is *the* source for encyclopedic information on film and music (there's also an All Music Guide). It is used by various sites all over the internet. *Both* the All Movie Guide and the All Music Guide entries on John Wayne (he was an iconic American actor, btw) are quoted in full at Answers.com. You can confirm by pasting this link into your address bar: http://www.answers.com/topic/john-wayne

But I have to say that your objection to IMDb is rich! You are aware that IMDb has a much better reputation for reliability than Wikipedia. I'm not saying this to be offensive -- I'm just letting you know that it does. IMDb is considered more reliable because it limits its entries to easily verifiable facts: release date, cast and crew, running time, etc. The reviews/opinions follow *after* the entry and are clearly stated to be user reviews.

Even so ... *what* precisely do you think needs further verification in my brief article on Moonchild? The film exists. I have a copy of it on vhs. You can purchase your own copy at Amazon.com. The cast is listed in the credits (on my copy of the film). I've cross checked it with IMDb -- and they match. The release date was 1974. It's on the box that the movie came in. Amazon also lists the release date as 1974.

I certainly think you can trust IMDb for something as innocuous as a cast list and a release date.

TCM (Turner Classic Movies) also lists the cast and the release date as 1974 (TCM is a famous cable channel owned by Ted Turner). So does Yahoo Movies (Yahoo is a famous search engine).

So *what* facts are in dispute?

That it has a cult following? Answers.com is aware of one. They state it as such in their article on the homunculus: http://www.answers.com/topic/homunculus#Film_and_pop_culture

That it's "notable"? Besides starring John Carradine and Victor Buono (two famous American characters), having its own articles at the above (and other) sites, being available at Amazon (pretty impressive for a 36-year old low budget student film!); it was mentioned in Cinefastique (follow the link: http://www.moviemags.com/search.php?search=delves)

That it's good? Cinefastique thought it promising (pre-release article). Opinions vary at the various sites where it appears. Like all great films, it has its supporters and its detractors.

That it was a student film? This is noted at several of the links. I first read it in a film reference book from 1983 called The Psychotronic Encyclopedia of Film (follow the link: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the+psychotronic+film&x=0&y=0).

What else could possibly require verification?

I have to say that I'm getting extremely disappointed with Wikipedia. I'm spending far more time trying to justify my articles than it takes me to research and write them. I came here to provide easy access to information on lesser known films, writers, artists, phenomena, etc. ... not to get into arguments experts who've never heard of Moonchild, AMG, John B. Ford, Terror Tales Magazine, or anything slighty out the pop-culture path.


 * Do you realize that Wikipedia *has* articles on the following???

* Moonchild is a term sometimes used for Cancer (astrology) to avoid the negative associations of the word * Moon Child (1989 film), a 1989 Spanish film * Moon Child (2003 film), a 2003 Japanese movie starring Gackt and Hyde * Moon Child (manga), a manga series by Reiko Shimizu * Moonchild (novel), a 1917 novel written by the British occultist Aleister Crowley * Moonchild (King Crimson song), a 1969 song by King Crimson * Moonchild (Rory Gallagher song), a song by Rory Gallagher * Moonchild (Iron Maiden song), a song by Metal Band Iron Maiden from their 1988 album Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. * Moonchild (Fields of the Nephilim song), a song by Fields of the Nephilim from the 1988 album The Nephilim. * Moonchild (Cibo Matto song), a song by Cibo Matto * Moonchild (Deborah Gibson song), a song by Debbie Gibson * Moonchild: Songs Without Words, a 2006 album by John Zorn * Moonchild (music project), a music project by Andreas Salm * In The Neverending Story, by Michael Ende, Moonchild is the new name that Bastian gives to the Childlike Empress, thus saving the world of Fantasia. * Moonchild is a comic character created by Nick Cuti who appeared in Underground comix

The ONLY one of these that has as much notability as the 1974 film is the book by Aleister Crowley!

Come on! You allow an article for a character named "Moonchild" in a comic strip? A song by Debby Gibson? A song by Cibo Matto (wtf is Cibo Matto???)

How? How can you possibly justify an article on songs by unknowns like Rory Gallagher and King Crimson, but not a feature film starring John Carradine and Victor Buono???

Perhaps somebody should request that they be removed...
 * Maybe you'd like to join our real-time chatroom for help? Thanks, Blurpeace  04:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Civility in edit summaries
Hello YED, and welcome to Wikipedia. I have noticed that a number of your edit summaries sound a bit confrontational with wording such as "wtf is Cibo???", "never heard of this group", and "Does a song from a metal band album deserve its own Wiki article? I think NOT." Please remember that "I just don't like it" is considered a poor argument for deletion, and that civility is one of the five pillars by which Wikipedia operates. I hope that you can turn your energies toward articles that you do like, or to improving those that you see as problematic. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

My apologies, Cnilep. Next time I'll spell out "wtf."

GENERAL NOTE: I don't speak netiquette, play by Robert's Rules, and would rather be dead than politically correct.

March 2010
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did to Wikipedia:Five pillars, you will be blocked from editing. causa sui (talk) 23:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Disruptive? lil' ol' me???

Wiki's tutti frutti pillars were in need of a little cleaning. I just scraped off some of the bull shit.

But I would strongly advise against blocking me. I've got a whole sock puppet army ready in the wings and chomping at the bit. Think Vandals vs Rome.

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Moonchild (1974 film) concern
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Proposed deletion of John B. Ford


The article John B. Ford has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Self-published author. Single cite to his own website.  Fails WP:AUTHOR.

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