User talk:Yesdijefferies1985

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Yesdijefferies1985! Your additions to Stephen Jefferies (dancer) have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. /wiae /tlk  10:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, this bio was originally written by my mother, Rashna Homji-Jefferies for Stephen Jefferies, my father. As such, they are our words and we would argue that we own the copyright on them Yesdijefferies1985 (talk) 10:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for replying here. If you want to use this text in the Stephen Jefferies (dancer) article, it will have to be licensed for use on Wikipedia. (Right now the benois.theatre.ru source says "© 2002–2022, Benois Centre", so it is possible that the Benois Centre would actually have to do the licensing.) You can follow the instructions at Donating copyrighted materials if licensing the text for use on Wikipedia is something you would be interested in doing. Until that point, I will keep the text out of the article, since it is currently a copyright violation. Thanks, /wiae /tlk  10:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Please read my message above. We own this copyright. I'm changing back. Yesdijefferies1985 (talk) 10:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay I will reword Yesdijefferies1985 (talk) 10:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do not re-insert the text wholesale—if you do that, you could be blocked from editing Wikipedia, because we take our copyright policy pretty seriously here. You will need to either follow the instructions at Donating copyrighted materials before that text can be reinserted into the Stephen Jefferies article, or rewrite it entirely in your own words. Personally I find that the rewriting option is faster, and is more likely to result in the text staying in the article, but that's just my take. Thanks, /wiae  /tlk  10:57, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. We will rewrite. I also added references for anything I could find online to support the biog, but they appear to have been deleted. I know the Royal Opera House website for example is a reputable and trusted website, so not sure why all these were removed. Yesdijefferies1985 (talk) 11:02, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * In situations involving articles that are about a living person, typically you will want to use inline citations to directly attribute statements in the article to a source. This is not necessary in every situation, but I find it is a good practice.
 * The Pointe Magazine source looks reliable, and you can probably use the Benois Theatre source as discussed. I would drop the IMDb source entirely (it's user-generated content, which we do not consider reliable here on Wikipedia). Wikipedia has a rule about placing external links (i.e., links to other websites) directly in the body of an article. You can sometimes put these in an "External links" section at the bottom of an article, but take care to keep only links that are relevant to the article. And if you want to use them to support actual content in the article, then using a reference is best. I would suggest reading Help:Referencing for beginners to get started.
 * Here are the links that were removed and that could be used, for your reference:
 * https://www.royalballetschool.org.uk/discover/about-us/
 * https://www.ukwhoswho.com/search?isQuickSearch=true&q=Stephen+Jefferies&searchBtn=Search
 * https://www.roh.org.uk/about/the-royal-ballet/staff
 * http://old.benois.theatre.ru/english/participants/jury/jefferies/
 * https://pointemagazine.com/tbt-carla-fracci-esmeralda/
 * Thanks, /wiae /tlk  11:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The other thing I will mention to you is that it can often be challenging to write neutrally about a subject with which you have a close connection. This isn't a slight against you, it's just a fact of reality for all of us who edit Wikipedia. Wikipedia's general rules around conflict-of-interest editing are available here; if that page looks too long to digest at once (Wikipedia's policies and guidelines can be lengthy!) then try the plain and simple version of our CoI rules instead. Basically, the best path forward is for you to recommend the changes you'd like on the talk page of the Stephen Jefferies article, and to tag the requested changes with request edit. Another volunteer editor will then be along to assess the content of your requested change. This process helps ensure that all the content we add to Wikipedia is neutral, not promotional. Let me know if you have any questions about this. Thanks, /wiae /tlk  11:34, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi again, could you please stop removing the copyvio-revdel template from the article? You'll notice that the template says "Note to others: Please do not remove this template before an administrator has reviewed it" at the bottom. The template will need to stay on the article until an administrator has the chance to review the article and hide the revisions of the article (i.e., in the article history) that contain the copyrighted content. Thanks, /wiae /tlk  12:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

No problem Yesdijefferies1985 (talk) 13:02, 9 June 2022 (UTC)