User talk:Yksin/Archive 1

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Please do not add "future" info for characters in episode articles were it has not occurred yet. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 01:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah. Got it. Thanks.--Yksin 03:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I may of come out overly hostile, sorry, it's just fiction is written in the present tense as if everything in that episode is happening and also there exists a small tribe of "spoiler police" here (hehe) who try there best to remove anything they deem over spoilerish etc etc :-\ thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 08:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject LGBT studies!
-- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice to see you're using my Poetry userbox. Welcome to WP:LGBT! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 18:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies
Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 23:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'll be glad to help. I just checked your talk page & got further information, & tried one one out following the instructions given on the "unassessed" page, & it's pretty straightforward. I'll try to do at least a few every day.
 * (This way I also come across articles in my areas of interest that I might be able to improve.) -- Yksin 00:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Update: did a bunch of assessments in a couple of stints yesterday & today, primarily of A&E bios, & wiped out the Unassessed listing of A&E folks whose first name begins with letter A. Now back to my own projects, but will continue to contribute to this effort. Yksin 05:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for helping out! The community already seems to be banging out a good amount of assessments on the unassessed list. Here is to hoping we can at least get that number belong 100,000 before the end of March. --Ozgod 06:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Persian literature
Hi!

Persian literature was previously a GA. However it was silent about contemporary literature. I added information about "contemporary persian literature". The section needs copyediting and also shortening. In case you are interested in the subject, I would like to ask you to help me in improving the article. Thanks alot.Sangak 16:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not too sure why you tapped me for this. I know very little about Persian literature, & it's outside the field of my own endeavors.  I've got a couple of major projects I'm working on myself. However, if you come back here to see my response, I will say that the article looks great other than that it doesn't seem to have enough sourcing for its facts. Yksin 05:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I moved a comment
Hi there. You left a comment at Talk:Joseph Estrada/Comments instead of at Talk:Joseph Estrada. I moved the comment to the main talk page, and tagged the subpage that was created for deletion. Flyguy649talkcontribs 20:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've already written on your talk page the following:
 * Interference with WikiProject Biography assessment
 * Re: your initiation of speedy deletion on the comment from Talk:Joseph Estrada -- My comment was created as part of the WikiBiography Project standard assessment techniques, intended as a comment note for biography editors seeking information on how best to improve an article.  See the WikiProject Biography page on the Talk:Joseph Estrada page.  Such comments get lost in the general hubbub of talk pages otherwise.  Yksin 20:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * -- Yksin 20:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've started prefacing my comments on the (usually new) comment page with


 * WikiBiography Project assessment:


 * so that other editors running across them won't make the same well-intentioned mistake. I've suggested this as a practice for other WPBiography assessors also at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Assessment. --Yksin 21:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that's a great idea. Sorry for the mix-up, Regards, Flyguy649talkcontribs 21:26, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar!

 * Thank you so much! --Yksin 17:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter
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Becker
I found it by doing a search of documents relating to "Steven B Stanton" at the Pinellas County Clerk of the Circuit Court website. It seems a bit of a non-sequitur to cite a random housing agreement from that website just to give her a maiden name, but if you do a search, it is there. The documents are all public knowledge as well, since I could easily access them. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 04:15, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
Well done! You've been doing awesome work :) - Alison &lt;talk&gt;  20:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow, thank you! --Yksin 20:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Thank you. --Yksin 01:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Native Alaskan Tribal Entities
The page that I created is List of Native Alaskan Tribal Entities, and so the list on my user page is accurate. If that's changed over time, then the redirects should appropriately follow.

HOWEVER, be VERY careful that you're not using conventional terminology inappropriately. This list comes from the U.S. Government, and if they use the term "Native Alaskan", then we should use it in that context, and use the most commonly used term elsewhere (perhaps briefly explaining the difference inline). -Harmil 18:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, I don't see where the discussion on this change took place. Can you point me to that? -Harmil 18:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're right: I did fail to start discussion on this before making the change, but simply took it on myself. My apologies.  I have now started a discussion at Talk:List of Alaska Native Tribal Entities, and commit to making the change back again if consensus is that the name should have been retained as it was.  However, I think I justified the change there pretty well. But -- I will know better next time (should there be one) to seek consensus before making such a change. --Yksin 19:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Steve Stanton
Hi there. Thanks for your commentary on my recent editor review. It was most unexpected!

I'd also like to apologise for running off like I did. I should have stuck around that bit longer until we sorted it all out. That was wrong, and I'm sorry. The reason I bailed was because I admire you a lot as an editor and I didn't want us to fall out over the matter, or drive you from an article which you've devoted so much time and effort to.

You've been an amazing asset to Wikipedia. I'm looking forward to hopefully working with you again. - Alison ☺ 05:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your answer. :) No I didn't want a falling out either, & I'll be very glad to start over with a clean slate & work together again.  I'm relatively new to WP, as you may have noticed -- a very interesting collaborative atmosphere, which is something I really appreciated about working on the Stanton article, but at the same time I've gotta put the control freak inside of me in restraints for that kind of work.  Thanks for giving me a second shot.
 * Congrats on your successful name change bid. How's the editor review going? --Yksin 16:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi there. The name change was great - I was getting tired of people calling me 'Ali' (it's Allie :) ) I had to kinda put the editor review on hold as I got surprise nominated for RFA. When that ends, I want to get back to the review (and the Stanton article!). It'd be nice to add some quotes from both sides of the fence. Thanks again! - Alison ☺ 16:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Did any of 'em ever mistake you for a comics pages caveman?
 * Yeah, that article def. needs some work in that regard. Whether people want to believe it or not, some of the commissioners had other reasons to distrust Stanton than the TG stuff, at least so they stated it. Some of the stuff I've got from my search in Newsbank from earlier in his career is also interesting from a balanced POV perspective. E.g., once when his contract was up for renewal, there was a heap of controversy about him being a finalist for a city manager position in Colorado. Some commissioners felt he was using his bid for that job as a way to turn the screws on them to renew his contract not just for 18 mos. or whatever the usual term was, but for three years.  Another controversy was about his firing of a city worker -- a cop or fireman or someone -- because the guy didn't show up for work during an emergency situation (hurricane) -- because the guy was taking care of his 81-year-old mother, who otherwise would have been completely on her own during said emergency.
 * I've been meaning to add those details, but I got a bit burnt out with all the intensive editing I already did on that article, & I needed to go on to something else. But I'll get back to it too.
 * Good luck on your RFA. --Yksin 17:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Stanton again

 * sigh* - it's official. He's been fired. I've added a para to the the article but as the news is now breaking, expect another flurry of activity on the article. I'll keep watch over it and add what I can as news is confirmed. - Alison ☺ 10:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, damn. I'm just catching up on the news.  Had a long weekend, didn't turn the computer on even once. Thanks for keeping up w/ it.  --Yksin 16:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * And hey - congratulations on Steve Stanton getting a mention in the press. Well done! :) - Alison ☺ 21:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * [grin]. The article mentions Wikipedia as follows: "Then the news broke that their longtime city manager, Steve Stanton, plans to ultimately live his life as Susan, and the world went a little nuts. How nuts? Today Stanton has his own entry in Wikipedia." --Yksin 01:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA
Thank you so much for your recent support of my RfA, which has been successful. Phew! While most voters wrote a word or two, you wrote a few lines of support. I really appreciate you taking the time out to do that and giving me a chance. Thank you so much! - Alison ☺ 10:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. You're doing good.  :) --Yksin 16:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Terve!
Small world and nice to run into you here! If you can't figure out who I am from the weird userboxes on my page, let me know and I'll send you e-mail :) -Yupik 18:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject newsletter
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Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
Hi,

I editted the page on the the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, which you undid. Fine by me - I was just pointing out that the information on that page is hopelessly outdated, and just simply wrong. If you don't care, leave it like it is... if you want to give correct information, and not just any information, then deleting that entire introduction would be better than this.

I don't have time to write more of an introduction than I did, but you can find more information elsewhere (online if you like, try earlyjewishwritings.com or earlychristianwritings.com - or offline, try "The testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs" by Hollander & De Jonge or "The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs" by Kugler). (Note to self: this unsigned comment left 11:15, 4 April 2007 by 66.124.207.33 | talk | contribs.)


 * Discussion arguing about problems with an article belong on the article's Talk page, not on the article page. So I'd suggest (1) editing the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs itself to bring it in line with current knowledge -- even if it means restarting the article from scratch; and (2) discussing the problems with the article, and changes you've made to it, at Talk:Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs. If you're unable to do (1), then do (2).


 * My deletion of your edit came as part of general vandalism patrolling of recent edits. It's not a subject I myself have any knowledge about.  Perhaps I would have done better not to simply remove your edit from the article, but to transfer it to the talk page. But perhaps you can do so?


 * I'd respond on your talk page, but you didn't sign your message so I don't know who you are. I'll research the article history to find out who you are an add my reply there as well. --Yksin 20:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * (Note to self: I left that comment at User talk:75.13.236.177 because that's the original IP my correspondent used to edit the Twelve Patriarchs page (the edit I reverted). 75.13.236.177 talk | contribs)


 * I editted the talk page, and wrote a shorter, more correct introduction. (Note to self: This unsigned comment left 17:18, 4 April 2007 by User:Tdbiii | Talk | contribs.)


 * Hey Tdbiii. Good job!  I left a comment on your Talk page.  As I said there and at Talk:Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, it does look liked you've improved the article. Although I'm not knowledgeable about this particular book of the Apocrypha, I'm pretty knowledgeable about biblical topics in general (actually, I've got an undergrad degree in Religion), & looks like you know your stuff.


 * I've had an incredible time giving you feedback, because you haven't been signing your comments on Talk pages, & you apparently use multiple computers, at least two IPs. I've had to research my page histories to figure out where to write back to you.  So just to keep track, I've added all the above "Notes to self" to help me keep track. Please, it's a really good idea when you comment on content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion to sign your posts by typing four tildes  ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. Or, you can click on the signature button [[Image:Button sig2.png]] located above the edit window, which will automatically insert your username and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when, and makes it easier for them to respond to you.


 * It's also good practice to include an edit summary for all your edits, as it helps both you & other editors when looking at history pages get a quick & dirty history of edits for the page.


 * Now that you have a registered username, I'd really encourage you to continue using it, as it makes it a lot easier for you to keep track of your own contributions, & also for other editors to give you feedback or otherwise know where to contact you. It also helps to tell you apart from those editors who engage in vandalism & spam from the same anonymous IP.


 * In any case, thanks for your contribution. I'm really glad you weren't discouraged by my original revert of your edit, & that you've persisted in following up on this. Keep up the good work. --Yksin 18:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Jean Keene
Thanks for the additions to Jean Keene! I was hoping someone with that book would come along. I don't have a copy. Wrad 05:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't have the book, but I spend a lot of my Saturdays and Sundays at the Kaladi Brothers cafe next to Title Wave Books in Anchorage... so I just stepped over to Title Wave & found the book & took a whole lotta notes. :) Thank goodness Title Wave had an enormous Alaskana section. --Yksin 05:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I just sent an email to the photographer. Hopefully we can get some of her eagle pictures, too. Wrad 06:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

She replied and said she would love to share them, so I sent her the license agreement to look over. Thanks for that, by the way. Wrad 21:05, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Did 209 talk to you about her change? It would appear not. She left this message on my talk. I told her to tell you. I honestly don't know much about it:

"Actually, Anderson's book is correct on Jean's birthday. The book says October 20 and is confirmed by Keene, herself."

Wrad 23:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope, 209 didn't, but I just checked out the messages between you two about it, so I'll go back & fix it -- but leaving in the mention that there are discrepancies between sources. --Yksin 23:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good. Wrad 23:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: (User talk:Ais523/catwatch.js) Script not working
Sorry about the slow reply, I'm having Internet connection troubles at the moment. The 'no skin' warning is correct but doesn't affect the operation of the script. You seem to have installed it correctly, and it's working for me at the moment; do you have any other idea as to what's wrong? (Are you getting error messages? Does anything at all appear on your watchlist? What browser are you using?) --ais523 14:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have no error messages. I get the standard stuff on my watchlist -- changes to actual pages. But, I understood that this script was intended to show when a new item was added to a particular category.  So, for example, if I add Category:Alaska Natives to a particular article, the name of the article shows up on in that category and also, thanks to the script, in my watchlist as an addition to that article.  But that's not happening.  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what the script is intended to do? --Yksin 18:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * (Sorry again about the late reply; I haven't been online for a while due to problems getting an Internet connection) If an article is added to a category on your category watchlist, or an article in such a category is recategorized, it should show up as a change to the category, with the article name given as a fake edit summary (it's not in italics, so you can tell). Also, you have to have at least one other change on your watchlist on the day in question (this doesn't come up as a problem very often, though, as most watchlists have at least one change a day). Does that help, or is there still a problem? --ais523 10:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Eskimo shamanism
Hi, Yksin. Since you know more about these issues than I do, do you think you might be able to take a look at the Eskimo shamanism article and respond to my concerns on the talk page? Thanks, and take care, --Miskwito 00:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey Miskwito, talking a look now. --Yksin 18:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

bartlett fire
the article written in the anchorage daily news about the fire is completely false, i think the news made up the jackass stuff, and the tampering with evidence charge was for throwing away the gas can...such crap. and if you want a completely factual revisit of the situation, i can set up an interview with the violators. its just ridiculous that the news made up something about the tv show just to make a headline. Robkehr 04:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, if you dispute the detail about "Jackass" you made a good choice deleting it. However, any other information about the case needs to be from documented sources. An interview wouldn't do it: that would constitute "original research" under Wikipedia policies.  Police reports & court transcripts, on the other hand, are legit documents & information can be used from them if you cite them properly. --Yksin 19:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: Even if the tampering with evidence charge was only for tossing the gas can, nonetheless it is a charge that was made, per 3AN-03-11888CR State of Alaska vs. Epperson, Jonathan James. --Yksin 20:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

oh no i understand that, i was sharing my opinion with you that it was crap. Robkehr 23:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

theres no need for anything else really. just as long as that jackass comment stays out, because thats not in any police reports. Robkehr 23:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Yup'ik
id like to work with you instead of against you. we live in the same place, probably have similiar academic training, probably have worked with or worked for the same agencies, and probably know the same people. i'll make it a point to contact you more frequently in the future. παράδοξος 16:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that would be great. --Yksin 17:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Coordinating
i am ad libitum! people from tynonek hunt beluga. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paradoxos (talk • contribs) 14:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Governors of Alaska
Thanks :) --Golbez 02:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Virginia Tech shootings
Thanks for reverting, I made a mistake, insteed of revert a vandalism version of that page, I saved that version again, meanwhile the other version was deleted, so it seems I am the vandalist. It was certainly not common vandalism ;). Tukkaatje 21:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the comments on the big edit on the Eskimo shamanism article. Physis' native language is Hungarian, which I happen to speak. I see you are working on Finnish and Alaska-related articles. What's your connection? I grew up in Anchorage and come from a Finnish family, but have not really done much with Finnish materials thus far.

Best, -Fenevad 01:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Yksin, Thanks for doing the research to clarify the City and Borough of Sitka mystery. Dkreisst 04:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Shamanism among Eskimo peoples + Siberian Yupik tales
Terve Yksin,

Thank You for Your letter.

The changes I did after Your concerns are annoted in Beauty of tension between diversity versus unity, containing subpage Bidirectional approach to organize the beauty of tension between diversity versus unity of cultures. I tried to explain my motivations there. But I know only very few things, thus these are only thoughts, i do not stick to them.

Thank You for Your offer to add Yup'ik-specific information to Shamanism among Eskimo peoples later. And I wish much success also to Your Central Alaskan Yup'ik pages (language and people). Do You speak any Yupik language? Do You read tales in them? I try to learn Ungazik by reading tales :

I began also with Sireniki language.

Have a nice time on Your two-week vacation.

Physis 19:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)ŋ

Virginia Tech massacre
As I told ChunkyRice some ten minutes ago, I argue that the names of the victims are quite useful to have the main article. They provide single-click access to those victims with articles - legit articles, I know articles for student victims are getting zapped as we speak but several faculty members passed WP:PROF. (The template with these links is losing its TfD and was just removed from the article.)

More importantly, it needs to be mentioned that five faculty members were killed, and the victims section accomplishes that efficiently and elegantly, giving the reader more information at a glance than what could be given in ordinary prose without greatly disrupting the text flow. Repeated mentions in the text were clumsy and I saw no real way to improve them. And when at least some of the faculty members have proven independently notable, there's no real point in saying that five were killed and not saying who they were, forcing the reader to hunt for that information.

I'm dismayed that there's been no talk page discussion beyond Titanium Dragon's wish to delete both the section and the article. A significant change such as this should be taken up there. --Kizor 23:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd agree that a brief mention of how many people died, whether they're faculty members or students, etc. is relevant, but I disagree with the need for all the names to be listed. But: okay sorry, let's discuss it there.  The whole "delete everything" crew is very aggressive, I just found a user who seems to be making a habit of changing all the articles currently in AfD, including the List of victims page, into redirects. I thought this was part of their whole effort. --Yksin 23:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being reasonable. Talking this over should give far better results than undoing each other's work. If that's what that crew is up to, I can't by any means fault you... though you obviously haven't been around me very much if you thought me a deletionist. :P I never did take the time to thank you for the barnstar, didn't I? Thank you. --Kizor 23:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I just didn't take time to investigate thoroughly, to find out which person specifically added that stuff back, after it had been removed a couple of times before. I did know you weren't the person who has been unilaterally changing disputed articles that are currently in AfD into redirects.  I discovered s/he's done that to several pages, all of them reverted by someone or another, & have reported the person to admin.


 * And... you're welcome! --Yksin 23:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okei, I took up the discussion there. You realize, of course, that this will call the "delete everything" gang you mentioned out.. --Kizor 00:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Lucinda Roy prod
While the think the continuing prodding user is a sock of a regular editor, I placed a message on their talk page similar to the one you put in Lucinda Roy talk. It's on my watchlist, but I can be rather busy myself. I hope other users pay attention also. --Oakshade 20:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've been thinking sockpuppet too. I'll keep an eye out when check in during my trip. --Yksin 21:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

so were you the one who changed it a long time ago. It read differently and I noticed it so I changed it back. Since you're an expert thank you for correcting us on its meaning. -Sincerely Yours Forever, G


 * I'm not sure what changes you're referring to. On the Lucinda Roy article I've twice objected to & hence removed 5-day prods for deletion, added a bio infobox based on info already in the article, & added metadata (persondata) based on that -- I haven't done any work on the substance of the article itself.  If you want to know who made changes, go to the article's history. Also, the proper way to sign posts is with four tildes (~), which automatically render your username when your change is saved.  I have no idea who "G" is. --Yksin 23:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

ASA edits
WHAT!!! some of the info is pretty real ya know. i got some of the info off of a seattletimes article and the eskimos did have shoulders way back then Yksin. if i knew how to do a link i would show u man. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Golum4ever (talk • contribs) 22:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC). Golum4ever

I don't know what you complaint with me is. I didn't remove the detail form Alaska Airlines about the shoulders, and in fact as of today that detail is still present, several edits past the last edit I did. Aside from that, if you have citations to back up the information you provide in your edits, you should supply them, per WP:V. --Yksin 23:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Non-admin fwarn
Template:Non-admin fwarn has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Kubigula (talk) 03:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007
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WikiProject Alaska on Alaska Natives
i'd like to work on this project. παράδοξος 00:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)