User talk:Ynhockey/Archive21

Israeli MOT page
Hi! I saw your edit. I think I found the Arabic name of the MOT in the agency's Arabic website. The article on the Arabic Wikipedia needs to be moved too. I notified the original editor of the page. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Something to ask
Forgive me for this,i have something to ask with you. ---zeeyanketu talk to me 21:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually,The discussion is not about wiki,Can i email you?I am very fond of Israel.So just want to tell and know something only once. ---zeeyanketu talk to me 21:38, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Email
---zeeyanketu talk to me 22:07, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

http://amudanan.co.il
Hi, Do you know the year of the 1:50,000 maps at http://amudanan.co.il ? Thanks. Zerotalk 01:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! 01:50, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not sure. Perhaps some sheets are older. The reason I asked is that amudanan does not show the curved section of road below the hotel on the upper slope of the Mount of Olives. It appears on Google maps and is easily visible in the aerial photo. Any ideas? Zerotalk 03:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC) Reply here is fine...

I guess it is really a road, not just a path, since there is a parking lot at the end of it. Zerotalk

Sorry I haven't been very clear. Here are identical portions of Google maps and Amudanan. The building in the middle is the 7 Arches Hotel on the top of the Mount of Olives. The road I indicated with a purple arrow on the Google map is not present on the Amudanan map. I'm wondering when it was made. You can also see that most of the large buildings of the hotel are missing. Thanks. Zerotalk 13:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * File:MountOlives2maps.jpg.

I'm curious about when that road was made. It was not there in 1946 (I have an extremely detailed map). It's hard to imagine Israel making it as it would have cut across hundreds of graves. But if Jordan made it, why doesn't Amudanan show it after 45 years? Some sources talk about an access road that Jordan built to the hotel, but this road doesn't seem to give access to anything. On Monday I'll take a look at some maps from 1969–70. Zerotalk 14:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:MtOlives1968.jpg is from a 1968 map by the Survey of Israel. I also have another one that is essentially identical except that the text is Hebrew.  You can see that some sort of trail is marked using dotted and thin solid lines, neither of which is identified in the map legend.  It's hard to believe this is a road, let alone a paved road, since they have their own designated appearances.  But there might be some explanation.  I'll try finding someone official to ask. Zerotalk 00:25, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Holyland (neighborhood)
You recently changed (neighborhood) to (residential complex) in the "WikiProject Israel - to do list". True, the complex (monstrosity) that we all know and love (or hate, mostly hate) as "Holyland" comprises the overwhelming majority of the Holyland neighborhood. But there is more to the neighborhood - residences totally unconnected to the complex. Neighborhood signs have been posted by the Jerusalem Municipality. Here's one from GoogleStreetViews --@Efrat (talk) 09:58, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This may be of interest. (But don't hold your breath!) --@Efrat (talk) 16:22, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Lot
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Self deleted
I'm sorry for letting a frustration take over. I self deleted. -DePiep (talk) 13:34, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

File:Israel districts.png
Could you make a version of File:Israel districts.png Thas includes the Gaza Strip, or what Israel refers to as Gaza Area. It'd fit better on the Geography of Palestine article then the current version does. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 14:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hebrew help needed!
Howzit! I've added the Yavne West, Ashkelon-Beersheba, Jerusalem High-speed, Karmiel, and Jezreel Valley lines. However there is one more line shown here that I need to add: the Sharon line. Using google satellite images I can make a very good approximation, however could you see if you can get me a real map (most likely on the ministry of transport's website)? My Hebrew being non-existant, could you help me out? Thanks bud, Mapeh (talk) 22:26, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, OpenStreetMap gives the exact route. Thanks! I'll have the updated map online by Tuesday evening. Mapeh (talk) 22:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Israeli legislative elections
Hi! A couple of things I thought I should bring to your attention. There seems to be a discrepancy between the infobox and the results table as to the number of seats Jewish Home had in the outgoing Knesset. As you are probably aware, while National Union and Jewish Home together received 7 seats last election, two are serving as National Union, two as Otzma LeIsrael and three as Jewish Home.

Secondly, as the media is starting to report, current figures show Jewish Home winning a 12th seat, whereas Ra'am will be reduced to four. Guy0307 (talk) 09:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion on the AFT5 Request for Comment
Hey - this is to notify you that there is a discussion starting on the Article Feedback RfC talkpage that has ramifications for the RfC itself. Your input is much appreciated :). Thanks! and apologies if I've missed anyone Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

MK infobox
I think it may be time for some changes to this to make it a bit more reader friendly. I've separated the party and ministerial sections and allowed entry of years. You can see how it would look here. What do you think? Any other suggestions? Number  5  7  22:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool. I built in the capacity for about 10 parties and perhaps more ministerial roles. If it isn't enough I'll add some more lines to the code. At some point in the next week I may make the change to the proper template then roll it out to all the MK articles using AWB or something.
 * Actually, there are still two Jewish Home members to do, but otherwise they're all there now. But yes, I'm up for collaborating. Many of them have quite detailed Hebrew articles, but I didn't go into that much detail with translating them. I'm also hoping that the Knesset website gets updated fairly soon so we'll have some more solid info on them. Let me know about focussing on any you're interested in. Cheers, Number   5  7  23:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Done a bit of work on Yoni Chetboun. Plus I created Shuli Mualem (the last one), which is fairly detailed. Number   5  7  13:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks - that Jerusalem Post series on the new MKs is very useful. Number   5  7  22:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've started rolling this out, but it's going to take a while! Any help would be appreciated. Number   5  7  19:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. I've done most of the current MKs (only the Likud Beiteinu list to go through) and will work my way through the rest of them using AWB. Number   5  7  13:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Earlysense MOS tagging
Hi Ynhockey, First I would like to thank you for your input and reviewing my edit on EarlySense, I have gon ethrough the MoS manual page and added the company logo to allow user recognition on the company more easily. I would like to know if there are any other styling suggestions you might have regarding the page and of course if not, if the MOS tage can be removed.

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theog75 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Eretz Hadasha
Lord Roem ~ (talk) 00:03, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Yoni Chetboun
Nyttend (talk · contribs) 16:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Israel: A Right to Live
Thanks for tagging the article's talk page. Do you have any university resources at hand or national archives that may contain further information about this apparently "lost" documentary? Please add any new categories to the article itself that you can think of as the subject matter is far outside my area of knowledge. Please respond here on your talk page unless you feel strongly about splitting the discussion. - Fantr (talk) 22:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry for not getting back to you. Yes, please ask Wikimedia Israel's GLAM representative for help (or pointers!). Unfortunately I'm nowhere near Israel so cannot do the research myself. I wasn't intending to ask anyone there to do in-depth research for me; I was hoping that if someone had two or so minutes to spare that they could check any archive indexes or periodical indexes at hand. Or perhaps even do a www.google.co.il search for me. Perhaps there are even hidden online resources your wikipedia colleagues may know of that I can access. Not practical as I don't speak or write the language. Actually, now that I think about it how does one go about nominating a page on the English wikipedia for inclusion on the Hebrew wikipedia? The article certainly has relevant Jewish value and so warrants inclusion there; further, the director's filmography here needs updating. (I hope I hyperlinked the right page.) The advantage here is that someone in Israel may see the documentary page on the Hebrew wikipedia and add information which, thanks to google's free online translation service, I can keep an eye on. Perhaps you also know of Israel-based film buffs who contribute to the English and Hebrew wikipedia who can do the documentary article translation. Sorry for being such a pest! - Fantr (talk) 20:53, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Gaza envelope map?
Hi. I was refered to you as one who created maps before, and my question is do you have a map for Gaza envelope? or can you create one? or otherwize can you translate this map ? Thank you. --Midrashah (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


 * What's up with the map? --Midrashah (talk) 18:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Protection of template:hebrew audio
Would you please unprotect this template or explain why it is semi-protected? It doesn't seem to qualify as highly-visible to me. Thanks. --JFH (talk) 01:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Municipal elections
I'm slowly getting there on the infobox implementation (now done all current MKs and all ministers), but when I've finished that I was thinking about doing some articles on municipal elections. Do you know any sites that give the full results for each city? Cheers, Number   5  7  16:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Are they every five years? I really know very little about them. Number   5  7  18:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Any idea how long the period has been five years, and when they started (i.e. if always five years, then first elections in 1948?)? Was going to add them to Israeli elections. Number   5  7  12:47, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I found out myself from he:הבחירות לרשויות המקומיות בישראל. Number   5  7  13:43, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Techni Be'er sheva
I've seen you edited the page, could you add the next images to the page as I wasn't able to fiure out how to do so ?

berret sign

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A1_%D7%98%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%97%D7%99%D7%9C_%D7%94%D7%90%D7%95%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A8.png

shouler sign

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:Tag_Y.jpg

School airial photo :

http://iaf.co.il/5585-he/IAF.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.226.48.139 (talk) 16:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Cable cars in Haifa
In Cable cars in Haifa I agree that I was wrong to confuse Carmelit with the aerial cable car, but you shouldn't have reverted my entire edit, which included a dead link template and other enhancements. —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

RFC at Talk:Limerick Pogrom
Hello, there is an RFC at Talk:Limerick Pogrom about a proposed change to reduce the amount of detail given to discussion of the term pogrom. Everyone who's been involved in this discussion is receiving this notice. Your input is appreciated, thanks. 04:31, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey Ynhockey; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:36, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes Israeli settlements
Hi Ynhockey. You have reverted my changes of infoboxes in articles about Israeli settlements in the West Bank. I gave the reason for my changes on the talk page Talk:Israeli settlement which I forgot to mention in the summary. The reason is, that the Template:Infobox Israel municipality shows the heading "Municipality of Israel", as I have noticed only a few days ago. We do not have to argue about wether Israeli settlements, regardless of there being local councils, citys or not are "Municipalities of Israel" – they aren't. As I'm not good at template syntax, I leave it to you to change either the "Infobox Israel municipality" or the "Infobox Israel village" or create a new one, but for the time being, the "Infobox Israel village" ist imo just fine, so please don't revert. Thanks, Ajnem (talk) 09:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Ministry articles
Hello Yan. Yes, it was deliberate. The main issue was the colouring, which I felt was unnecessary extra coding, but also WP:OR - I haven't changed this one yet, but how was it decided that the General Zionists were light blue, or that Yisrael BaAliyah were green (and purple for Kadima?). I also felt the numbering was rather a distraction (as it's often not 1, 2, 3 etc, but 1, 2, 3, 2, 3). Generally I thought the new format contained too much unnecessary coding. Thoughts? Number  5  7  15:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool. I've added the numbering back into the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development (Israel) - would you be happy with that? I guess another change I made was having a notes column rather than footnotes, which may be easier to read. Number   5  7  19:00, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem Light Rail
Hello Yan,

Although the "Birushalayim" version was mine, I saw the recent edit that had changed it to "BiYrushalayim" and did not revert it. There are two reasons for that: a) this version has one letter (the Y) that can be capitalized; b) Israeli radio announcers sometimes do pronounce "full khirik" as "iy" in such words as "liyladim" (to children) or "birushalayim" (in Jerusalem). Vcohen (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Precision of Coordinates
Hi, at Zemer you changed 32:22:1/35:2:7 back to 32:22:1.28/35:2:7.05. The distance between those two locations is approximately 8.8 meters, which has no meaning in a place the size of a town and even smaller than the building you were aiming at. Moreover, giving two decimal places gives a false impression of accuracy. Even if there was some particular spot in the town (of a few tens of centimeters in size) whose coordinates should be given, and you went there with a normal GPS device, you would not be able to get that degree of precision. Google maps is not that accurate, no matter how many digits it provides to you; you can see the pointer moves by about 300m between these two locations. You can also check at Amudanan using the WGS84 coordinate system: the difference between 32:22:1/35:2:7 and 32:22:1.28/35:2:7.05 is about one screen pixel at the highest magnification and both are about 20-30m south of where Google says it is. Finally, there is a guideline at WP:OPCOORD. Cheers. Zerotalk 00:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

RFC at List of Israeli cities
There's a RFC at to talk:List of Israeli cities about weather the articles inclusion of Israeli settlements (with city status) as "Israeli cities" in this context original research, or otherwise problematic. I'm telling you this because you made a related post on the talk page. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback from Technical 13
Another move request for this page. Technical 13 (talk) 12:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Swimming requests
Imri Ganiel and Amir Ganiel, can you translate from Hebrew?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  20:40, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

The idea was to translate, source what can be sourced. and then remove what can't be...♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  21:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Deputy leaders of the thirty-third Israeli government
Could you help me with this? I don't know who are the current Head of the Government Deputies.--Michael Zeev (talk) 04:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 29
Thought you might want to join the discussion. Number  5  7  12:30, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Regarding nomenclature and the current RfC on WP:LQ
Regarding your comment on the RfC about whether WP:LQ should be kept, modified or removed, I notice that you say "It's called 'logical' for a reason" but reject the terms "American" and "British." Yes, British style is also called logical style, but the sources are divided almost exclusively along national lines. American style guides say to tuck periods and commas inside the quotation marks. In a recent search for sources, we were only able to find one U.S. style guide that did not require American punctuation, the style guide of the American Chemical Society, and it discusses the writing of papers that contain large numbers of non-alphanumeric characters, which is not an issue on Wikipedia.

The case has been made that British English may permit either British/L or American punctuation, as it does with -ize or -ise spelling, but American English does not.

I understand that this may not change your mind, and you have every right to prefer British style to American, but your decision should not be based on any misconceptions. There is indeed a national split on this issue and American English does require American punctuation. But you don't have to take my word for it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:57, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Kibbutz
I reverted your changes to Infobox Kibbutz - somehow it broke the Hebrew name function, meaning that all articles had displayed where the Hebrew name should be. Number  5  7  10:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I can't find it either. It doesn't seem to be in these changes by Frietjes, and the only change I can see in these edits by Plasticpork is a change in the font size ( is removed). I think you may need to ask them. Sorry,  Number   5  7  10:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I added back the first version, but fixed the nested quotes, and added numeric parameters which are necessary when passing args with = signs. is there a particular reason this can't be integrated into Hebrew? would make things much less messy. Frietjes (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 13
FYI. Number  5  7  12:53, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Unrecognized Bedouin villages in Israel
Please come and bring your opinion. Romayan (talk) 19:52, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Independence
I've moved it back - as far as I know, "Party" is not part of the name of the organisation, it's just "Independence" - happy to be proved wrong though :) Number   5  7  12:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Haim Dayan
Could you check the facts in the last paragraph. They appear to be backed up from my understanding of the sources, but just wanted to make doubly sure. Cheers, Number   5  7  22:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for checking. Number   5  7  10:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Reflist | refs
Greetings, Ynhockey! Ever since I saw you placing all of the references at the bottom of the page using { { Reflist | refs = } }, I too have used this method. Are you aware that edits to such references cannot be done using VisualEditor (VE) beta? Not that I care. I still prefer editing the source. Call me old-fashioned. (And I still do not have a smart phone!!!) --@Efrat (talk) 09:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Map
Hello,

I am sure you are the right contributor for this concern :. Could you bring some help ? Pluto2012 (talk) 17:50, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Arab Liberation Army
Hello,

You collaborated to the debate about this "emblem". Would you mind giving your mind and analysis on the talk page of the article regarding this topic ? Pluto2012 (talk) 19:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Email
---zeeyanwiki discutez 10:04, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Possible nomination of a GA article for FA status.
Hi Ynhockey. Your user page seems to indicate a good editing background/peer review possibility in Israel-Holocaust related articles. I am thinking of recommending a page upgrade for a GA article to FA article status which may involve the reading of one key book if this might be possible for you. The book is the popularly received "Evil and the God of Love" and the wikipage has presently under-represented the important Holocaust-related issues. Any possible interest? AutoJellinek (talk) 17:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ynhockey. Thanks for your return message to my talk page. Since writing my note yesterday, i have discovered that there is a free Amazon twenty page preview for this book which should be enough for these purposes, with link provided below. The larger issue is that the current GA page dealing with "Irenaean Theodicy" limits its discussion only to "soul-searching" and none of the realistic problems of human suffering from the real world. My thought is that by including a discussion of the Holocaust in this article, then the GA article might be made into an FA article by covering a real example of suffering, the Holocaust, which is of such import to many people still living in Israel today. Maybe you have some follow-up comment or question. This is the url for the twenty page preview: http://www.amazon.com/Evil-God-Love-John-Hick/dp/0230252796/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382024335&sr=1-1&keywords=evil+and+the+god+of+love AutoJellinek (talk) 15:58, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ynhockey. From your previous message on my talk page, i did not know if you had a chance to glance at any of this material or if it is not possible at this time. Recently, i discovered that both of the scholars Alan Dershowitz at Harvard and Elie Weisel the Nobel Prize winner, are supportive of including responsible passages on the Holocaust experiences in essays and articles dealing with the theme of the realistic implication of human suffering in general. If you could offer to do an FA evaluation of the wikipage i had previously mentioned, then i could offer to incorporate the passages according to your FA evaluation and the subject could be responsibly represented on the current wikipage for FA nomination. Possibly you could let me know your thoughts. AutoJellinek (talk) 15:15, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Lebanon-Golan border
Hi, Please look at http://amudanan.co.il/?lon=35.668831&lat=33.286629 and note the point marked "786" in the center of the map. As shown it is about 300m north of the border. However, Google Maps at https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.286629,35.668831&q=loc:33.286629,35.668831 shows the border with a sort of bulge that passes through that point. Do you know which is correct? This is the location of Qal'at Bustra. Thanks. Zerotalk 10:57, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think you are right, courtesy of Wikileaks.  This 2006 cable gives UTM 748688/685928 as being "44 meters north of the border".  Amudanan has UTM as an option, and as far as I can tell this position is exactly on the border marked there, directly south of  Qal'at Bustra. Also the UNIFIL deployment map shows a base "Bastra" in that area though I can't tell if it is actually at Qal'at Bustra. Zerotalk 11:51, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The current UNIFIL deployment map perfectly matches the border shown at Amudanan. It appears Israel withdrew to the international border in this region in 2006. Maybe (guessing) Google still reflects the situation before then. Zerotalk 12:22, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Modern sources vs ancient sources
Greetings, YN! In a recent discussion with User:Ananiujitha about sources in Battle of Elasa, a point was made that all of the sources were ancient (Bible, Josephus) except for one (Bezalel (1976)). Do you know of a source tag which would call for the inclusion of "recent works" as sources? Regards, --@Efrat (talk) 11:53, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input. Kind regards,  --@Efrat (talk) 19:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC)