User talk:Yoav Beck

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Hello, Yoav Beck, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as PTL Group, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of PTL Group


A tag has been placed on PTL Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here.  Dewritech (talk)  09:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of PTL Group


A tag has been placed on PTL Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here.  Dewritech (talk)  10:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of PTL Group


A tag has been placed on PTL Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here.  Dewritech (talk)  12:29, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

PTL Group
Hi, I've seen your message. I'm very busy in real life today, but I'll reply in detail as soon as I can. I always explain why I have speedy deleted if asked to do so, and if I still feel that the deletion was warranted, I'm usually prepared to sandbox the text for you to address the issues prior to reposting. It's not strictly true that all my contributions are one-liners. 09:44, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

You will appreciate that companies and their employees often try to post articles that promote their organisations (in fact, one of the few things that gets an immediate indefinite block is editing under the name of a company), so such articles tend to receive more scrutiny. Some slip through the net, so to point to other examples may just mean that they should have been deleted too. I deleted your article because
 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: provides management support to its foreign customers looking to enter and develop their business in China... They also provide services for companies already operating in the China... seeking to expand their activities... a leading Israeli nutrition... one of the most important industrial cities... region with the fastest economic growth rate and largest GDP in China... a successful visit to Israel... outstanding Chinese engineers.
 * it's all about what the company does, little about the company itself other than locations. How many employees? Turnover? Profits? Has the company ever received negative publicity? Who are its competitors? On the other hand, you give a high profile to promotional meetings with the Chinese.
 * there shouldn't be any url links in the text, only in References or External links. When such links are in the text and point to other companies or organisations, that looks spammy too.
 * If you recreate, note that headings shouldn't be fully capped, just first word and proper nouns as usual. Also note that blogs, Youtube and self-editable sites like Linked-in are not satisfactory as references (there is a bot that removes Youtube links)

The company is clearly notable. I'll shortly post the deleted text here. Let me know if you have any queries or need help.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:13, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I see that you have not edited the page since Jimfbleak userfied it. You are free to edit it or not, but if it remains in its present state, or a state similar to it, it is likely to be deleted again: moving it to a userspace page is a short term means to allow improvement, not a long term way of keeping content that is unsuitable as an article. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:57, 4 July 2013 (UTC)