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Zeljko Ranogajec
Before making wholesale changes of obvious importance to an article, it's preferable to open a discussion on your intentions in the relevant article's Talk page. Coming to the specifics of the Zeljko Ranogajec entry, the person's secrecy/privacy is an important issue. The person is notable for the alleged size of his gambling and his purported winnings. None of this has been resolutely verified - and he denies it. He maintains a very private lifestyle, which inhibits verification. This is why it is important (and not at all "waffle") to include this information in the encyclopaedia. -The Gnome (talk) 19:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It's already stated in the article that x and y are 'reported' or 'alleged' estimates. There is no need for an entire redundant section about this. Yob 1971 (talk) 07:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That's exactly the point. It's easy to characterise something as "alleged"; the hard part is to prove that it is alleged - in other words, "not proven". As we know, it is impossible to prove a negative. Therefore, these particular attributes of the subject's private life (secrecy, privacy) corroborate the allegation that it could all be blown up out of proportion.
 * Plus, the intensively maintained privacy of some persons, profiled in Wikipedia, is often, when notable in itself, part of their life story. (Trivial example: Howard Hughes.) In the case of Zeljko Ranogajec, we have a clear desire from his part to remain out of the public light that makes it notable in itself. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)