User talk:Yomangani/Archive 3

Thanks
Thanks for the MFD heads-up. — xaosflux  Talk  02:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Indonesia
Hi Yomangani, how are you? I have a big request, unfortunately, ehehehe. Could you, umm, copyedit Indonesia? Well, you can choose any section you like, don't do all sections hahahaha (if you want, please do so!). Your help will be much much much MUCH appreciated. Cheers -- I   mo   eng  03:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I   mo   eng  10:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Taxonomy of the Carcharhiniformes
Hi Yomangani, About the automatically-generated list of sharks you are going to make, will Taxonomy of the Carcharhiniformes be removed when it is up & running? Cheers GrahamBould 11:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Sharks COTF
Just a note to say that i have changed the COTF from tiger shark to whale shark. chris_huh 11:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Columns
Hi, Don't know who to mention this to, but in the Category 'Sharks' the sub-categories are only in one column requiring the user to page forward to the Next 200. But in sub-categories of sub-categories there are more than 1 column. Small point, I know, but it might be nice to get it improved. Cheers GrahamBould 12:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Erast Fandorin (revisited)
Ok, take your time and thanks in advance for your efforts! BTW, it got GA grade yesterday :) (but I still want to improve further). Errabee 17:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. I'll be sure to work on them, but the images pose a problem: there simply aren't any good quality free pictures available. Any copyedits you could make are of course welcome. Errabee 08:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Citing sources
The anti-citing group is giving Plange and Kirill a heck of a time over at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources. Some math/physics editors apparently don't want to cite, and are trying to change the guideline. Sandy 02:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Parsssseltongue
Thanks for your message. I know there is a statement about not being an admin further down the thread, but that was also made 17 hours after his reply to my original message, and in response to someone else who also assumed he was an admin. And I assumed that you were an admin because I thought he was an admin, and you were challenging him on that level. I feel my assumptions were reasonable. Bwithh 00:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

1FAPQ
I noticed your comment at One featured article per quarter. Good idea to point out the FFAs. Are you going to add yourself to the list for the fourth quarter of this year? I want to get a critical mass of people there. Marskell 11:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I did see that pic, but absent an arrow pointing out the star I do know how to incorporate it (it is public domain, I think, per NASA). Unless you happen to know which point of light is which, that is :). Glad you signed up on the page. Marskell 12:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the digging, but is this not actually Proxima Centauri? The page is a little confusing in this regard. Immediately below is a pic from Jack Schmidling, which is quite nice; however, Mr. Schmidling himself showed up on talk and informed that he could not release his pics under the GFDL (if NASA purchases/receives a pic, is it Public Domain, or only if they produce it themselves?). Two below show's an artist's impression, which is fine too. Perhaps I'll just use it, as it can stand in for any red dwarf but I'll have to double-check the copyright. Marskell 12:33, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

"The Shark Guy"
I promise never to call you "the shark guy" again; my next dog will be named Laika. Sandy 14:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA
There's something wrong: it's showing as 24 neutrals here.  Lots of people look at the summary when deciding whether to vote. I've never seen RFASUM goof before: I don't know what's causing it. Sandy 23:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Dragon only updates once an hour: I was going to try the asterisk, too.  I don't know who to ask.  I'm pretty sure I shouldn't have deleted the final pound sign ???  Sandy 00:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Your asterisk fixed it: when I saw it was goofed up, I took the pound sign out, hoping that was the problem, so that wasn't it.  Anyway, it's all better now :-)  Sandy 00:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not working. Sandy 01:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC) Yes it is:  that one could have been a cache problem here, or it just updated correctly ( I was getting 12/0/0).  Sandy 01:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I switched computers - it was my cache. I've made a mess of your talk page with this, please delete the whole mess if you'd like.  Sandy 01:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

AFD
Thanks for taking care of that. Was it something I did? I can't figure it out -Nv8200p talk 01:51, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

User:ais523/UnclosedAfDs
I can answer at least one of your requests; there are now log links in the section title. (I'm no longer doing it entirely by hand; I've got a script I can run locally to produce the list, and a bit of ParserFunctions on the page to get the links right). The whole thing is started manually by me, so I have to be online to update the list (which relies on having a good enough Internet connection to run the bot; the quality of the connection is quite variable at the moment). Your only hope of a daily update would probably be to clone the bot; if you don't mind a few more false positives, I could email the shortlisting script that harvests a shortlist from query.php, analyses it, and produces the results to you if you'd like (it's somewhat kludgy, requires some copying and pasting by hand due to JavaScript security restrictions, and I've got no idea how portable it is). (The script is normally run immediately after the bot to prevent closed AfDs being caught up there; it will work without the bot's aid as well, but will catch closed but still-catted AfDs.) I don't mind the flood of feature requests, by the way; it helps to give me something to do. --ais523 14:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Parliament Acts
I see you've been working on it: is it salvageable? It's Greek to me, and I don't know where to start. Not sure if it needs to go to FARC ?Sandy 03:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: AFD cats
No, at the risk of sounding like a jerk. This is a process that can easilly be done by a bot, and I suggested that happen, apparently it hasn't yet. As useful as these categories may be, requiring closers to remove them, when closers (as far as I know) never asked for them to be there in the first place, makes a tedius process more tedius. So basically I oppose out of principle, sorry, my fear is that if we just keep adding processes onto closing AfDs, the backlog will get even worse. This seems like a process AWB could do easilly, just run once a day, if the AfD is closed, remove the template, otherwise skip. --W.marsh 14:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * As disorganized as Wikipedia is... I'd never heard of the poll personally, so I wouldn't consider one consensus somewhere to be something that's set in stone. Ultimately since this is something that a bot can do perfectly, it's something that philosophically, I think it should do so human editors can do human tasks. --W.marsh 14:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

About your last modification
I just spent a lot of time to modify the presentation of the discussion related to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Kingstonjr/Work Gallery. This page is so confused now that it's impossible to understand the log of the comments. Please explain your last modification. Thanks SEwiki 16:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand now. SEwiki 16:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, thanks!
Thanks for thinking of me!!! I'll definitely go out and buy a copy - hopefully the US edition is the same... I'm pretty sure it is.

Thanks for the heads up! :)

 Srose  (talk)  01:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

AfD: Vemo
Thanks for the note on my talk page and for removing my erroneous attempt. Basically, I don't know what I'm doing. I think the Vemo article is bogus nonsense from a user with vandalistic tendencies. But I don't know whether I'll bother learning how to properly nominate it for deletion. I followed a link on the AfD page for adding an entry, but apparently there is something I don't know. -Wookipedian 01:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

AfD: Wilhelm Strasse
Thanks for moving the AfD to the correct(?) day, but to my knowledge, it was put in the right page - it was still Oct. 9th where I am, and the AfD tutorial page redirected me to that page as well. Virogtheconq 02:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, no, I wasn't offended at all, just curious. I guess we can chalk it up to a disconnect between local Wiki servers and global policy. Virogtheconq 03:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Optimum Nutrition Inc
Deleted article was cited with optimum Nutrition web site. I was doing this for them and this is the page they wanted displayed. I was not infringing on copyright at all it was approved by Optimum Nutrition.

I will redo the article and resubmit it.

How if you are doing a company can you copy a page and not be consided as copyright, I can see the problem this causes and don't want to keep causing work for all so is there anyway if I do another article for a company and I use one of their pages to keep it from being considered copyright infrigment?--Cleanupman 18:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

STOP DELETED VALID INFORMATION
This is a message for the one who deleted the link African Holocaust. I dont care if you think it is spamming the facts are this site deals with slavery. If Steven Hawkins contributed to "Black Holes" would you delete it. You can only delete a link for a valid reason. the site deals with slavery in debt, hence it is relevant. the film on slavery is a film on slavery. all of these things are facts, so there is zero reason to remove the link. Films on slavery--then it is 500 Years Later isnt it a film on Slavery? so leave it alone--Halaqah 15:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you've mistaken me for somebody else - see the note on your talk page. Yomangani talk 15:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Then i am deeply sorry, I am not sure how this thing works so how do i find out who did it--Thanks for the warning and i am sorry---Halaqah 15:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

You are a good man, i think ones starts to get enemies when you start putting things up. I noticed that after adding slavery to the Christian section the heat came. But we contribute to so many topics i feel it is very unfair for that person claim, i think on the slavery page the link to a site was deleted ---Halaqah 15:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery i think --Halaqah 15:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I think u are right, many thanks. But it is sometimes i think people take a personal intrest in damaging you. Because i said something somewhere which was valid they hunt you down and look for anymistakes you make---Halaqah 23:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations
You're now an admin. Have fun using the new tools to make this a better place. Use them conservatively, especially at first, and re-read the relevant policies before acting. As you get the hang of it, dive in and help out with the backlogs. Again, congrats and have fun, and sorry about the delay. --Taxman Talk 22:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! An 85% approval rating is excellent! Please ask if you have any questions about the role of admin. Regards, (aeropagitica) 22:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * More congratulations! I hope your admin duties don't keep you from the writing and referencing you do so well!  Sandy 22:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Congrats Yomangani, it is deserved. Didn't see a single oppose that actually had anything to say. Marskell 23:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Congrats!!!!!!!! Lets not forget the sharks :-) Stefan 00:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I would do it any day. Congratulations. Feel free to seek a second opinion on complicated cases any time. - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulation! You sure deserve it, and don't forget WP:RFF alright? :D Cheers -- I   mo   eng  00:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! This was well-deserved. I have a great deal of admiration for your work - especially your steely determination not to quit until Oceanic whitetip was FA--Hokeman 01:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. Congratulations. Well deserved. You're doing really well. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 03:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Time to change the user page
Congratulations on becoming an admin! I can imagine few people who handle issues relating to deletion better. Luckily, I think my little binge of deletions is just about over. This should leave you with a bit more time to engage in the Sharks project and anything else you would like to do, in addition to any admin functions. Badbilltucker 22:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats-- Mustafa Akalp 12:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Dear Yomangani, Congratulations for your adminship. I saw your effort for problem/dispute solving and good judgement. As you will see, there is a war on Turkish/Turkey related articles. Some users acting like a professional team to put anti-turk contents to these articles. Please, I required your special attention on these articles. Sorry for inconvience at first day. Congrats again. Regards. Mustafa Akalp 12:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulations Yomangani! Have fun with your powers. If you have any questions about admin tasks, feel free to contact me. Nish kid  64  21:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

RFA/Tiger tag
I have been very busy in real life recently and will be for the next 2 weeks or so at least, but I will have a look at the tag later today. Stefan 23:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Squats
Hi, the addition of ...Netherlands and ...Spain to the original UK squats AfD was not, imo, carried out in accordance with AfD procedure and I was unable to delete them as part of the same process. The titles of any and all articles in an AfD listing should be in bold at the top of the debate, and in the case of non-near-as-dammit identical articles they should really be listed simultaneously to ensure they all receive the same consideration. Please relist them again if you wish. Thanks,  Dei zio  talk 15:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

New Lettrist International
Thank you for closing the New Lettrist International AfD. Would you add the template to the talk page, please? BlueValour 19:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Blatant Advertising?
Are you kiding - so when a band posts thier site here - what is that considered?

By the way, we are not selling anything at Kevlarlounge - nor the Short Bus Racers - so what are we advertising?

Seriously - what does it take to be and admin here? I will keep your comments for further reference.

Thanks

Criteria for Not getting a page deleted
This is in reference to you stating the site offers no significance importance - Should I list specifics that can help? The site is of major importance - Should I attach the FAQ's of driving on the listing to help?

Regarding why you are deleting my page:

So since I'm not quite understanding why you are deciding to recommend and have pages deleted

What would be the criteria for getting these pages to stay? Specifically for Kevlarlounge and Short Bus Racers

We have world records, there is video and stats to confirm this. We are know in the online racing world. We are not selling anything on our site, and promote tips and tricks, and write many FAQ's for PGR and Forza Series.

I am not understanding how any half rated band can post a page here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiny_Toy_Guns

And advertise their album list and buy page - but yet we are a community for giving advice and you find that enough to have the page removed

Would it help if we make an record a racing sounds album first? I can do that and put it online in 30 minutes if so

By the way - our videos on our site are not for sale, only for learning techniques on driving for free

The Quran and science
Help with fixing the link of second AFD on the top of talk page please. It is pointing to the first AFD and not to the second one. ابراهيم 13:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Andrew Jackson Jihad
The AfD you closed a mere TWO hours ago is being re-open. Is it within your power to shut it down as a bad faith nom? PT ( s-s-s-s ) 00:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, responding to both of you - it's not a bad faith nomination in the least since I'm trying to establish consensus, and certain elements of the last AFD did not seem right. You'd have a point if it was a keep, or I was abusing WP:POINT or something, but it was at best a narrow no consensus. -Halo 00:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, you mentioned it was incorrectly named - I was trying to follow the instructions on Articles_for_deletion, maybe they need to be corrected? Is there some sort of unwritten rule about consistantcy? Halo 00:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, I wasn't necessarily debating the ruling itself (I would have gone the other way, but it was closer than I would have liked), but I want to try and establish further consensus hence the renom. -Halo 01:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Swami AfD Done
- CrazyRussian talk/email 12:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

WP Point deletions (surnames)
Hi - how can this AfD not set a precedent? I may not be of the same opinion as Coolkeg, but I'd agree with him that the whole area needs cleaning up. Vizjim 13:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

AFD:Sixth Party System
I intend to appeal Articles for deletion/Sixth Party System, on the grounds that the delete arguments were not answered. Except for Kchase, whom I am going to send a copy, they were ignored. Would you reconsider, to see if you have fully weighed the strength of the arguments? AfD is not a vote. Septentrionalis 15:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks; what follows is not an effort to change your mind, but a pure request for clarification. As far as I can see, and I may be blinded by prejudice, the keep arguments consist of
 * Aldrich's paper
 * Evidence-free assertions that there must be more scholarly research out there somewhere
 * Claims that we should keep the dicdef "The system after the Fifth Party System is called the Sixth Party System."
 * What have I missed? Septentrionalis 15:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If the DRV fails, I will see if a merge can be made to stick. Septentrionalis 16:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Cromford Canal
Dear Yomangani

Since the result of the Butterley Tunnel AfD discussion is keep can the related merge discussion on the Cromford Canal page be removed also?

Yours Faithfully Martin Cordon Martin Cordon 18:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Where Troy Once Stood
Hi Yomangani, Not much discussion there about merging the articles Iman Wilkens into Where Troy Once Stood, in fact none, so I took the liberty of merging them. Best Wishes, Antiphus 09:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Help for against NPOV group
You will find my oppinions at Oppose; adminship of KhoiKhoi and User_talk:Gwernol pages. Regards Mustafa Akalp TC 13:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it's your talk page; sorry for any inconvenience. Cheers, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Lori Klausutis (third nomination)
Very well done. I am always impressed by closes that seem to be based on something other than counting votes, and yet also seem to reflect community consensus. AnonEMouse (squeak) 12:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Did you notice it's not in Deletion review yet? :-) AnonEMouse (squeak) 17:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've been considering taking to DRV, but now I don't want to sully AnonE's compliments. To be sure, the close was reasonable, but I'm not certain that I agree with the proposition that, where a subject is arguably notable but where the article apropos of him violates WP:NPOV during the pendency of an AfD and where no NPOV version to which one might revert exists, the proper disposition is deletion.  In general, when no consensus as to notability can properly be divined from an AfD, one, ceteris paribus, closes it as no consensus, such that your altogether proper pronouncement that the community were divided as to the notability of the subject but your closing the debate as delete in any event ought not to be understood as suggesting that an article about the subject ought not to exist, only that the extant article ought not to exist (of course, MONGO has, ostensibly in contravention of such understanding, deletedpaged it).


 * I'd imagine, then, that where no consensus for deletion on as NN exists but deletion is counseled on other grounds, the article ought to be stubbified to an NPOV form or, if editors can readily agree on such a form, placed at WP:RA, in order that editors might attempt to collaborate on a version eventually to be moved to mainspace. My views are perhaps colored by my profound distaste for WP:BLP (for a good while I noted at every relevant turn that "Wikipedia does not and should not abide by a harm-limitation policy"; now, of course, such a policy ["do no harm"] is codified in BLP), but I think it a bit strange that we should delete solely on the grounds of NPOV and subsequently protect a page against recreation, when (in theory) a version exists that would, as consistent with NPOV, have survived the AfD as a no consensus.  It is, I suppose, no big deal, and so I'll not DRV (if only because, as Anon observes, you offered a quite cogent explanation of your close, and insofar as my objections are more to MONGO's deletedpage than to your deletion), but I might list the subject at WP:RA and then, should someone craft an article, suggest to MONGO that he unprotect.  That might all be more trouble than it's worth in view of the controversial nature of the subject; the inclusion/exclusion of the name has generated quite an edit war at Joe Scarborough (which many at AfD adduced as an article that handled the issue properly and sufficiently) over the last two days&mdash;at least the article might soon qualify for WP:LAME...


 * In any event, I guess I mean to echo Anon's sentiments and to suggest that, whilst I might have closed differently (perhaps wrongly), I appreciate, as Anon, the deliberative treatment you accorded the close and the respect you accorded those who partook thereof. Joe 05:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/The Seven Worlds (2nd nomination)
This was a db-move. Please fulfil the CSD. The nomination was placed at the wrong article altogether, you need to delete it and move the "ongoing at the wrong location" discussion into its place. - Hahnch e  n 01:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Halopedia shouldnt have been deleted.
This shouldnt have been deleted. The reason for it being deleted was because the sources werent reliable. Which is stupid because hmmmm lets see...Halopedia is about a fictional universe...Halo right? And when the company that invents the damn universe says its good, then its sure as hell good!--Johnston49er 04:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Headings and subheadings
Good to see someone else working on Platypus, shouldn't be too ahrd to get back to FA. Headings are trivcky sometimes; the more standardized they are the clunkier they can often get for any one particular biology article - I have use Distribution on quite a few animals and plants but I am not too fussed about it either way. cheers.Cas Liber 09:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I am Australian (and also a medical doctor for that matter :)), we always spell it 'Oedema' here. cheers.Cas Liber 10:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

PS: Were you about to nominate it? I have tried to rewrite a few long and unwieldy sentences. Haven't really looked through the refs much. Mammals are not my strong point....


 * Cool, I'll keep an eye on it. Hadn't noticed about reversions of oedema - is it one person?Cas Liber 11:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks good now. The only thing is in general it is better to use commas than parentheses but I can't see in the remaining examples on the page how this would be done without making the text more confusing.Cas Liber 20:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Righty-ho, let's go!Cas Liber 06:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Darn
You're good - don't tell Tony he missed those :-) Thanks, Sandy (Talk) 00:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, I'll get on those. You're the best, Sandy (Talk) 01:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Found that WP:MOS has a separate page on numbers, will make those changes next; does this work?
 * Individuals describe the need to tic as a buildup of tension which they consciously choose to release, as if they "had to do it". Sandy (Talk) 01:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm ... per Manual of Style (dates and numbers), I did fine on the numbers until I hit the Epidemiology section. MOS says "Within a context or a list, style should be consistent", and I should only spell out numbers that are less than ten, or can be said in two or fewer words. But, I think (?), it would be awkward to spell out things like:
 * with about five to ten people in ten thousand having the condition

when prevalence is rarely expressed that way. Don't know what to do - what do you think? Sandy (Talk) 01:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Done with everything except epidemiology: feel like I should leave that in numbers, even though it's inconsistent, since that's how that info is usually written in medical articles, but will change if you disagree.  Thanks again !  Sandy (Talk) 01:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to review Platypus tomorrow: the fire in California has me so nervous I can't focus - didn't want you to think I was ignoring it. Sandy (Talk) 19:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

A new day ! Colin raises a question on how I've handled the numbers; wondering what you think here. Thanks ! Sandy (Talk) 12:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for your opinion
Hi, your name crossed my mind, because you're such a helpful person in improving any article. I've contributed much improvement for this article: Mount Tambora. The article is currently in GA nomination and have been peer-reviewed. There's not much suggestion in PR, so I guess it's been done with PR. I am thinking of pull it from GAC and then putting this article in FAC. You have a lot of experiences in FAR, so I want to know your opinion about this. Is the article already qualified for FAC? (I've asked this question in PR, but nobody has answered it). Let me know what you think. Cheers. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 10:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. Re: the image, I've asked the owner myself and I've received their permission via email. I am going to ask copyeditors as you suggested. Again, thanks a lot. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 11:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Platypus
A fascinating read, another great save, I learned some interesting facts reading this article. What a strange and interesting animal! Sandy (Talk) 14:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I get tangled up in this sentence, but not sure how to fix it: The term was given to it as a Linnaean genus name by Shaw when he initially described it, but it was soon discovered to already belong to the wood-boring ambrosia beetle (genus Platypus).
 * Are covered, is covered ? "The body and the broad, flat tail of the platypus is covered "
 * There are a lot of words in there I don't know - can anything more be wikified?
 * Sexually mature ??? "Females are thought likely to become sexual mature in their second year,"
 * Redundant? "with breeding confirmed to still take place in animals over nine years old."

John Dee
I do not intend to criticize the work of individual editors; I have not been editing John Dee, and do not follow its edit history. It is the whole in-line citation craze, where they are useful or not, that should be deprecated. Footnotes should be used where they are useful, and not insisted on elsewhere. Septentrionalis 15:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In general, they are a necessary evil. In some cases, especially short articles, they are not necessary at all. (Some of us tried to make this point, at least as an alternate view, on WP:WIAGA, and were suppressed; see its talk.) The people I object to see them as a positive good, indeed the flaming sword at the entrance to WP:GA and {{WP:FA]]. Septentrionalis 15:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yomangani, another great save: I'm not sure about this sentence?
 * He died in Mortlake late in 1608 or early 1609 aged 82 (there are no extant records of the exact date as both the parish registers Dee's gravestone are missing).

Sandy (Talk) 21:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

PDSA Gold Medal
The overlaps between User:ALoan/redlinks and User:Yomangani/redlinks are quite amusing! I never could get up much enthusiasm for Trade Union and Labour Relations Act 1974, though. Good luck!-- ALoan (Talk) 13:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No, no - don't be at all deterred by my listing redlinks. It is simply a list of articles that I hope to get around to if no-one else does.  I am quite happy for someone else to do the work for me :) PDSA Gold Medal looks very good, by the way, although I have added my 2 pennies. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the vote, as it were....
How cool is that, to see your work featured on a Wikipedia portal? I will be sharing more work soon (not enough hours in the day), but could you perhaps give me the lowdown on wiki commons, how it's used, how it works, and why it's better than just uploading a pic here & there? (I know I can research this, but I'd like your take.) Thanx, cheers - pterantula

Java collaboration
hi. Starting today, the Indonesia Collaboration is Java. Come along and help make this a page worthy of the world’s most magnificent island. There’s a suggested to-do list on the the Talk page to which you can add, or just pick a task. All sorts of tasks are required, Images, Citations, Research, Copy Edit, you name it – this important article needs your help!! regards --Merbabu 08:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Unblock
Please see my message; here, and here. Regards Mustafa Akalp TC 09:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)