User talk:Yomangani/Archive 7

Civility
Yes, I know, I know. But as I mouthed off earlier, there's more to civility than the avoidance of naughty words. The fellow in question didn't just delete an article, he deleted an article hours after another admin restored it and did so despite a "hangon" and despite references that included the New York Times. And needless to say, it was well-written and Wikified. On that basis alone, I think it should have already been restored until an AfD debate took place. I hope you can understand my frustration and, on a personal level, forgive my civility transgression. Shaundakulbara 01:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ship-eating pandas on SS Antenor (1924)
Hello again, and gosh, thanks for that. I've got lost in a world of Antenors this afternoon ... I thought I'd poke around some more and check out the panda story as it seeemed such a ripping yarn - however I've only found one source for it. It's not beyond the realms of possibility though as this website lists all the arrivals to western zoos in the 30s and 40s - 14 in all - of which four came to London Zoo in Dec 1938. So I'm wondering if the story is in essence true, and it's just the year that's wrong. Or if I ought to remove it as it doesn't seem to have enough supporting evidence? Whaddyareckon? By the way - I came across this woman whilst panda-poking and it sounds like she led a life: her Wikipage doesn't really convey her particular ripping yarn either. I love the bit about how she'd take a taxi if the journey was over two blocks, and then heads off on an expedition to the wilds of the China/Tibet border. By the way - been following your heady DYK progress with admiration. How do you do it? Jasper33 15:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Misleading pics - Hol Chan Marine Reserve
Hi Yomangani, I really enjoyed your article on Hol Chan Marine Reserve. Articles on the Belize Barrier Reef were sorely lacking. In fact I can't believe these articles didn't exist until Jan. 2007. Anyway, I understand that you want your article to be illustrated with good photos but the selected pics leave the perception that they were taken there. Having been to Hol Chan, the Brain coral image can really create an unrealistic expectation. -- P199 17:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, location-specific articles should only have pics showing that location. Just my opinion, I won't force it. Anyway, the replacement pics are a great addition. Don't mind me if I slightly rearrange them - don't like the large white gaps... -- P199 19:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Banjee
Can a block against unregistered users editing (or whatever) be placed on banjee? It is on DYK main page and is getting vandalized over and over. Thanks. Shaundakulbara 18:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

You've got e-mail
Marskell 13:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

dyk
Thanks! I would have left it, but after reading it, and reading the dyk article. There was no mention of a.) that specific act being associated with that date and b.) no mention of the occurance being mentioned happening of that date. Would it have been better to put random act of date? -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you feel it more appropriate in there, please put it back. I was just fairly confused by reading it and figured it would be better out but if it actually makes it worse, I will be glad to replace it.  -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, William Frederick Yeames, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  22:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK 2
Since you have a monopoly on DYK, maybe you'll know what to do with this. Gimmebot can't automatically add DYKs to the articlehistory template because the DYKs aren't substituted. Can you get folks to subst them? Then Gimmebot will automatically add them - see Talk:The Four Stages of Cruelty. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 22:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * And congratulations by the way - too bad it didn't work out so you could have had two articles in one promotion :-) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure I've got the lingo right - going by what Gimmetrow says when I find a DYK the bot doesn't pick up - can you tell by looking at Cruelty? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Check here on Gimme's page. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Oxford Road, Hong Kong for DYK
Please read the article before voicing out that the two things are unrelated except for the name. Oxford Road is named after Oxford City. --Deryck C. 12:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comment. I apologize that my previous comment was kind of furious - sorry. --Deryck C. 09:45, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

NCIS episodes
Can you help here? I'm at a loss. Thank you sir! -Shaundakulbara 20:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have discovered that List of NCIS episodes links to articles about every single episode (there are many). None establish notability, none have references, all contain (at most) plot summary and quotes (plus a sprinkling of original research-type observations).  I tagged a few of them before I thought there must be a better way to go about getting these AfD posted and merged or whatever.  I'm not really sure.  As you have been a pundit in similar areas of concern in the past I am hoping you might want to take a look at the assemblage and handle it somehow.
 * Also, User:MatthewFenton has been removing notability and reference tags and has ordered me to "cease". I'm not sure how to handle this either.

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Henry Simms, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  21:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK - thanks
Thanks for updating DYK. I had time to populate next update, but didn't have time to make the update and do credits. Signing off. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 13:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Mop
Yomangani, can you help me reconstruct this for the article history? Back in the history of this&mdash;which is actually a review of the Portal&mdash;is a review of the article Poetry, which I need to add to the articlehistory template. Thanks, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 21:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Sophie Blanchard
Oh, you minx! -- ALoan (Talk) 15:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It was the easiest one on my list and I was feeling lazy. Citizen Henry (Citoyenne Henri) looks like it would be an interesting spin-off from that one though, as far as can see she was the pin-up for balloonists.  Yomangani talk 15:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, great article! Jvhertum 15:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Next
I tried to balance the selection with arts from 2-3 Feb., some from 2/2, though, were really short, or else contested for lacking sources etcetera. Bondkaka 17:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

No
I've been informed previously (and seen some) of the mess that attends academic naming of flora and fauna. MO: they're caught between their descriptivist jobs and their prescriptivist training.

But no, with large mammals the upper case is not used. You would write lion (not Lion) in an e-mail to me, and researchers do the same in their papers (as I've gathered in writing the jaguar FA). I don't like these post-hoc decisions on wiki. Marskell 00:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It's the shifting without discussing that I'm finding annoying here. I've rv'ed three times, and will stop, but I don't understand why Uther would be so unilateral with this. At the very least, the rest of Panthera should show the pattern, but it doesn't. I've checked the refs previously: none of the sources use upper case. I think nomenclature decisions of this sort are almost a type of OR on Wikipedia. We're deciding what should be done? We should be describing what is done. Marskell 08:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've moved the discussion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mammals. Marskell 12:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Prince Sadruddin Aga Khan FA status!
Yomangani - thank you for your support in pushing this article all the way to FA status! Best, Cimm[talk] 11:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

As it's award season ...
For the constantly surprising scope (and speed) of your magnificent contributions to Wikipedia. Eat your heart out, |Walt Disney, you never got one of these! Jasper33 09:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations


Congratulations on getting Jack Sheppard up to snuff and out of the dock. Also, thanks for the interest in 18th century figures. The lads and ladies and books nearest to my heart need more champions. Geogre 03:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I wish I could take some credit for it, but my contribution only ran to uploading some fuzzy images and then miscaptioning the one I added to the article. I'll continue working on the 18th century mob though: it's a surprisingly under represented area considering the number of easily available sources. Yomangani talk 01:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

My thanks too, Yomangani - every raindrop raises the sea. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Per SmthManly, FYI
FYI,  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 19:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I see that's fixed. Great, lots of reverting for me on 19th of Feb, then. Yomangani talk 01:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd offer to help, but I'll be on a plane. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, well done. This must be one of the fastest from new article to DYK to FA to Main Page. Is it some sort of record? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If we could work AfD and DRV in there somewhere we might have a chance. Yomangani talk 12:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Just Nuisance, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  00:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Peer review request
Dear Yomangani

I have seen you peer reviewed some pages on film directors. It would be very kind of you if you could also review Abbas Kiarostami when you have time. I've just sent a request for review. Thanks a lot.Sangak 21:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Red Barn Murder
Wonderful&mdash;airplane reading! I find it hard to go between footnotes and references when there are a lot of books and they aren't alphabetical by last name. Would you mind switching the cite templates on the books to have last name first on author and putting them in alphabeticl order? It just makes it easier to find the ref that corresponds with the note. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 14:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Much better; now you have some footnotes that have first name first; can you make them last name first for consistency? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 14:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, someone (can't recall who) has started requesting wikilinking full dates on footnotes, including last access dates (I went back and re-did all the TS notes), so you might want to do that pre-emptively. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It certainly is annoying; I wish the cite templates would just be consistent or allow one to use the date formats of one's liking. argh.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 16:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Did you know is 10 Hours old
Did you know is 10 Hours old --Hirakawacho 10:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations
...or, perhaps, commiserations, on today's Main Page. -- ALoan (Talk) 00:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations man! I was surprised when I saw this article on the Main Page. I remember I put it up on Main Page DYK just a few weeks ago. Good work, Yomangani. =)  Nish kid 64  00:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks...I guess I'll unpick the improvements from the "improvements" tomorrow. Yomangani talk 00:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats from me too. An absolutely splendid article. Well done you (and all else concerned - but it's your baby). Jasper33 20:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I just had a look at the edit summaries for this article, the ones that you contributed. Excellent work. The article is informative, thorough and also entertaining to read; a rare mix indeed. Well done to you (and everyone else involved!) Nach0king 21:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Penny gaff, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  21:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Four Stages of Cruelty
I just wanted to say how much I liked the Four Stages article, even though I've dived in to make some amendments! Hope you didn't feel slighted. :) GDallimore 18:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If I get a chance at the weekend, I'll take a look at the John Steinbeck article. However, I'm keen not to lose too much focus on the articles that really interest me for a little while - don't want to leave a trail of half-finished projects. I'm a minor fan of Hogarth which is why I dived into Four Stages, and I really think Aerotel v Telco and Macrossan's application has a FA shot once I've filled in some gaps. I want to sit down and re-read Sutton Hoo properly, too, which has had some great additions recently. Take a look.GDallimore 18:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, A Harlot's Progress, A Rake's Progress and Marriage à-la-mode - even William Hogarth himself - can all do with work. There is no shortage of things to do [I have not found the time to tackle a certain rotunda yet :) ] -- ALoan (Talk) 18:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of having a go at the Rake next month (if I don't have to fill in for slackers who still haven't filled Carlo Gatti). Yomangani talk 18:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad I'm not the only person who thinks Sutton Hoo is getting a bit unwieldy. Current consensus is that its length is appropriate to its subject. I need to have a proper dig and propose a breakdown. One day, Wikipedia will be complete :) GDallimore 09:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Ahem. -- ALoan (Talk) 16:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised you could get so much out of it, I couldn't see much more than a stub. I'll have a look for a piccy. Yomangani talk 16:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks - the music hall connection helped bulk it out. Now, what about Agnes Marshall, queen of ice cream, or Italo Marchiony or Ernst Hamwi, popularisers of the ice cream cone?  :) -- ALoan (Talk) 16:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * For what it is worth, two Gatti brothers, Agostino and Stefano, owned the Adelphi Theatre at around this time, and I have seen reference to a brother of Carlo, Giuseppe.


 * Have you seen the posters? -- ALoan (Talk) 17:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Olinto Ancillotti looks like another potentially good one. Yomangani talk 17:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Your review comments
Hi Yomangani, thanks so much for your constructive comments on Featured article candidates/Paul Collingwood. Hopefully we've implemented all your concerns thusfar, could you be kind enough to have another look to see if it satisfies your requirements, and if not, leave a few more suggestions for us to consider? Once again, thanks for the time you've put into reviewing the article. All the best, The Rambling Man 08:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, thanks. I've implemented your suggestions, hopefully to your liking.  Cheers! The Rambling Man 10:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Last time I bother you (for the moment!) - thanks enormously for your time, comments and re-consideration of your position, all are very much appreciated. All the best... The Rambling Man 11:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

You're a gentleman. Really excellent point you raised. You've made a significant contribution to the article's improvement, never mind any of this FA tomfoolery, lol --Dweller 11:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

We've got more cricket FACs coming up soon hopefully....Adam Gilchrist, Harbhajan Singh, Irfan Pathan and Dinesh Karthik as part of CWC Advert. Unfortunately the last two don't have pictures, but....well as as you said about Rebecca Twigley on T:DYKT...it could be worse..it could be cricket. :) Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Eurovision and treatments
I have a sneaking suspicion that I may have said the same thing about myself somewhere along the line. Now if only the GFDL allowed me to claim copyright... BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You agree your contributions may be edited mercilessly (or just plain stolen). Yomangani talk 10:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As the burglar said as he was caught in the lunchwrap: "Curses! Foiled again!". Sorry about inflicting that pun on you. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 11:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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DYK selection
Hi Yomangani, may I ask how is the DYK next update is selected? I am asking this because of the recent move where the nominator him/her-self moved his/her own DYK nomination to the next update, not to mention the article is still a stub. Is it a common practice? His other nomination was noticed by someone that was only a stub, but his other move passed through DYK. I'm afraid that if this is common, then other nominators would directly move their own nominations to the next update. Please note that this is not because I nominated an article, but it is just on my watchlist. Thanks. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 14:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay then, thanks. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 14:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK candidate 22 February
I have expanded Villeneuve-sur-Yonne I hope now it could qualify for a DYK? STTW (talk)  20:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK order
If people put at the bottom of the list they get more attention, for the next update. Maybe we should create a rule? --Parker007 02:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Cruel Coppinger, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  21:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

replacing missed update?
If you have time, can you please elaborate on your edit to next update "replacing missed update"? I put a lot of effort all in vain? --Parker007 22:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The Update after the Next update
We should create a template: "The update after the Next update" :). --Parker007 23:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)