User talk:Yonatan/Archive/Archive-Jan2007

Tim Cahill
Hi there. I'm not too sure if the yellow card is important enough, but if he gets another one, he will get suspended for one game, which is quite important in the context of the WC lasting for only 7 matches (at most). Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC).

David Beckman
Hi. I don't know if you realised this, but the footballer "David Beckman" in the article list of jews in sport was supposed to be David Beckham. There's a bit of a debate going around as to whether or not he truly qualifies as being a notable Jew in support as he doesn't practice Judaism (but may have a Jewish grandfather - which will make him ethically Jew apparently). However, this user keeps adding him without any references. Thanks for keeping a lookout. hedpeguyuk 8:25, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Careful
Please be careful when replacing one tag with another as you did here, especially if is a speedy deletion tag. This article was not eligible for speedy deletion via CSD A8 because it was not created in the last 48 hours (it was created in April). This is common mistake so it is no big deal. Just be sure to read all criteria before proposing speedy deletions. If you have any question feel free to contact me on my talk page here. Happy editing and remember to be bold.-- Joe  Jklin  (  T   C  )  05:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: European Goals
There should be a good deal of discussion somewhere over here - Template_talk:Football_player_infobox. I must say though, that there are many very good reasons to leave to European goals out. Don't forget that certain clubs are more/less successful than others, and the levels of competitions (CWC, Uefa Cup, Champ League) vary quite a bit. Would it be fair to compare a player who scored 8 goals in 1 game against say Barry Town, vs another player who scored 1 goal in 1 game against AC Milan?..Additionally, would African/Asian/South American international competitions count as well? What about their significance and strength? Lastly, if you ever watch any American professional sport (and they keep a LOT of statistics on players), they would never consider combining playoff and regular season statistics for obvious reasons. Cheers, mate. --Palffy 19:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * American Pro Sports are very related to the subject at hand. The reason a club makes Euro competitions is because of its superb performance in the domestic league (or regular season)! Thus, it makes no sense to bring up playoff performance as a significant indicator of a players history and ability. By leaving league stats, you're tracking something useful--ie, this players played that many games in that many seasons and scored that many goals in the most important competition. You might not agree with the latter statement if say you're from Russia/Ukraine, because the domestic tournament is weak, but for the rest of the leagues, the domestic competition is the primary competition. By doing something like (Maybe we should make a rule that ridiculous scores shouldn't count on a player's page such as Lyon's 7-2 vs. Werder Bremen or Arsenal's 7-0 vs. Middlesbrough\Everton or Shevchenko's four goals vs. Fenerbahce?) that, you're making exceptions in certain cases and not making them in others. This is not a methodical way in looking at this..nor is it endorsed by Wikipedia. However, everyone is more than welcome to list european goals in the players profiles...--Palffy 01:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll try to explain once again how they're relevant. With the exception of websites that list trivial information, player stats in American sports do not include playoff statistics. I dont know how much you know about the NFL/MLB/NBA, but there is a postseason tournament, featuring the top teams in the regular season who play for the Championship itself. However, playoff statistics are always kept separately and are never used when keeping straiightforward databases on player---here is an example of a typical baseball players profile--, a football players---, and a basketball players . A players statistics will NEVER have playoff+regular season data combined in 1 season---they're 2 separate things as they are in this case.
 * There are other concerns that are issues such as allowing European cups to count and not allowing Asian/African cups to count as I mentioned earlier..This issue has been well-debated and the original creators were smart to think of reasons why not to include European caps/goals. --Palffy 16:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

TfD vote
I can sense you agree, but you haven't yet voted. ;o) Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_30  SLUMGUM    yap    stalk   01:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

People by language
Categories for deletion/Log/2006 July 19

Please confirm whether you meant your previous discussion to apply to the 3 remaining languages, as they received only 4 days of comments, instead of the full 7.
 * --William Allen Simpson 18:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Before you respond to the canvassing of the above user, I would urge you to note the ongoing discussion of this subject here. This is not something to be quickly swept under the carpet. Deb 21:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)