User talk:Yonatan/Archive/Archive-Sep2007

Hi...
You probably don't remember me, but how do you make a custom sig, usually in various colors/fonts/pictures/links to talk page, etc. TheListUpdater 22:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You can edit your sig in Special:Preferences. Colors/fonts/pictures (I'm not sure if those are allowed)/link are done the usual way when editing the signature box on the preferences page. Yonatan talk 02:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Categorizing images
Hi,

Wikimedia Commons files, and more specifically, images, should be categorized there rather than on the English Wikipedia. Thanks, Yonatan talk 00:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. I moved your comment from my talk page to yours to keep the thread in one place. I will watchlist this talk page for awhile.


 * Please see:
 * User:Timeshifter --Timeshifter 07:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all good and well, but most of your argument comes down to things that should be fixed in the software. You are welcome to open a bug report on bugzilla asking for these enhancements. The other part of your argument basically counters commons' existence. Well, it appears that the commons project is alive and well, and therefore most if not all image-related tasks should be there. I'd like to take the opportunity and refer you to WP:NOT. I agree some of your suggestions are good ones, but as I said, wasting your time recategorizing stuff on en that's already categorized on commons is a waste of manpower and a bad solution to a problem that can easily be fixed in the code. Yonatan talk 17:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You are misinformed about how categorization works on the commons and the various language-versions of wikipedia. I have many edits on wikipedia and the commons. There are no immediate problems concerning these issues that need to be fixed in the software. --Timeshifter 21:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, a condescending response won't get you far, especially when I'm an admin both here and on commons, and I'm a *very* active user on the Hebrew Wikipedia. Categorizing images should be done on commons, there's no point in categorizing stuff twice and doing so is a waste of time and goes against the goal of commons. Please stop categorizing commons images on the English Wikipedia. Yonatan talk 00:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It was not a condescending response. I am stating the facts. --Timeshifter 09:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

(unindent)Let me clarify. A lot of people do not read English. The commons categories are in English. Also, similar articles and images are categorized differently in the various other-language wikipedias. I read French. They do not have the same category trees as in English wikipedia. There are many reasons for this. There is no universal logical category scheme. There is no quick fix to this naming problem concerning categories in many different languages. The category trees are different in the various languages. So when people look in a category in their language, they want to see the images for that category, not just the articles. Images are just as important as articles. They want graphics labeled in their language, too, if there is text on the image. Images without text on them still have the problem of the difference in languages for the categories themselves. And finding the correct category in English to look for related images can be impossible for a native French speaker who also speaks fluent English. Because the categorization is oftentimes different in many confusing ways. This confusion has caused many problems that has been discussed many times on commons talk pages. --Timeshifter 14:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If images aren't categorized on commons in a way that makes it easy for people from other project to find them then maybe the commons category system needs to be changed. Commons is meant to be a multilingual repository of images, and all (free) image-related things (categories, etc.) for all Wikimedia projects are supposed to be there. You may think something needs to be changed in the way things currently work, but for that you'd have to bring it up for discussion with the commons\en community, not by simply doing what you think is right, when many people disagree (and therefore, in many cases, undo your work). Yonatan talk 12:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Funky protection image
Hi Yonatan,

You just changed the protection status on Stephen Colbert, and the indicating icon doesn't render, at least in my browser (Firefox 2.0.0.6). Do you know, is there something new and unsettled about this template, or is it me? Thanks, - Reaverdrop ( talk / nl ) 03:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ahh, much better now. Thanks! - Reaverdrop ( talk / nl ) 03:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Question
I came across your page and noticed the banner stating "Say NO to Fair Use". Can you tell me the code for it. It'll be greatly appreciated. --Tris31erlover 12:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much.--Tris31erlover 15:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Third opinion request
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Hebrew WP
Hi. I saw the removal of the tag, but I think that the referencing tag at the top of the article is enough to make the point. Perhaps you should nominate the article for deletion since it has no real sources and does not seem to be notable. --Kevin Murray 00:10, 23 September 2007 (UTC)