User talk:Yoninah/Archive 21

DYK for Rivka Ravitz
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Florence E. Bamberger
IronGargoyle (talk) 00:02, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

new entry for Jacqui Shumiatcher, named a recipient of the Order of Canada
Given your incredible work on my mother Minuetta Kessler's Wikipedia entry, I thought you might be interested in creating a Wikipedia entry for my aunt, Jacqui Shumiatcher of Regina, Canada, who was just named a recipient of the Order of Canada, along with Prince Phillip. Her late husband, Dr. Morris C. Shumiatcher, has a Wikipedia entry. Please see the internet references to her below and let me know if you need anything additional.--Ron Kessler KesslerRonald@gmail.com

1. Addition to Dr. Morris C. Shumiatcher Wikipedia:

In June 2017, the Governor General of Canada announced that Dr. Morris Shumiatcher's widow, Jacqui Shumiatcher, was awarded the Order of Canada "for her devotion to her community and for her transformative philanthropy, which have re-vitalized Saskatchewan's arts and culture scene." Included among the recipients was Prince Charles. Jacqui Shumiatcher was one of only three from Saskatchewan to receive the honor.[1][2]She has donated millions, according to a profile of her, "Patron of the Arts Believes in Sharing the Wealth," in the Regina Leader-Post.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Shumiatcher

2. The Encyclopedia of Saskatchewan: http://esask.uregina.ca/entry/shumiatcher_jacqui_1923-.html 3. Regina Leader-Post: http://www.leaderpost.com/patron+arts+believes+sharing+wealth/8671664/story.html

4. City of Regina: http://www.regina.ca/residents/heritage-history/historical-biographies/biography-shumiatcher/

5. North Central Regina History Project: http://northcentralregina.ca/bios/philanthropists/jacqui-shumiatcher/

6. CBC News: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/u-of-r-gets-amazing-gift-of-art-from-shumiatcher-collection-1.2778426

7. Toronto Sun: http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/30/order-of-canada-celebrates-50-years-adding-new-members

8. Official press release on Order of Canada: The Governor General of Canada: https://www.gg.ca/document.aspx?id=16917&lan=eng
 * thank you for the heads-up. The WP:Women in Red project actually has a Canadian women project going this month, so I'll try to do it for that. I was also thinking of doing an article on Bella Shumiatcher, though so far my Google searches have not turned up a lot. Sincerely, Yoninah (talk) 20:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * would you have a freely-licensed photo of Jacqui? If you went to her house, snapped a picture, and posted it at Wikipedia Commons, it would be free-license. Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Camino Island
Yoninah, I was wondering whether you planned to return to this review, or if I should find a new reviewer for it. Please let me know if the latter (I'll see your post if it's the former). Many thanks, and thanks for your hard work keeping DYK moving. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * it wasn't really my review to start with; I just pulled it from prep per the discussion at WT:DYK. Please find another reviewer. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yoninah, thanks for letting me know. I will eventually find a new reviewer, but there are issues that need to be fixed first, and I'm not happy with the initial attempts. As long as I'm here, I was wondering about your review at Template:Did you know nominations/Dolly Rudeman. Have the comments since you made the review addressed your concerns, or do you need something more before you can give it a tick? BlueMoonset (talk) 15:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I revisited the review. Yoninah (talk) 21:08, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Sorry it wasn't yet ready for the tick, but it will hopefully get there soon. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Christiane Karg
Sorry, I don't agree with removing the links to opera houses in her hook. These names are NOT familiar to the ordinary readers. I bet they will have heard rather about Der Rosenkavalier but not the Frankfurt Opera, will know Mahler's Second better than the Semperoper. I felt like reverting, but want to discuss at least. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * the hook was one long sea of blue. Please tell me which links are absolutely essential, and I'll restore them. Meanwhile, anyone who actually clicks on the bold link will see all these links in the article. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:58, 15 August 2017 (UTC)


 * None is "absolutely essential", and you know it. If we link one opera house, we should link them all, for fairness. So we don't, and leave the readers with many unfamiliar terms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * All right, I'll revert, but it doesn't look right to me. You end up plugging all the opera houses and not the main subject. Yoninah (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 15:02, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Zerai Deres
Thank you for talking me down about Abebe Bikila. You were right!

I ask for your assistance on a different nomination Zerai Deres. An IP editor as recently reverted the entire expansion: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zerai_Deres&type=revision&diff=796397702&oldid=796292448. Can you take a look please? Am I biased in this? Does the expansion violate WP:NPOV? &mdash;አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you for your kind words.
 * I started your DYK review. The article looks neutral, although I suggest adding a little more background to explain what's going on between Italy, Ethiopia, and Eritrea. Not to worry about the IPs who keep blanking the page; someone will always unblank it. But the page has to be stable before it can appear on the main page. Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:48, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The article is under vandalism attack again by the same IP-user, please consider to semi-protect. In it.wiki we have the same editwar and the page is now under semi-protection. --Holapaco77 (talk) 20:59, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I put in a protection request at Requests for page protection. Yoninah (talk) 21:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you very much, you are very kind. I've upgrade the article again, so please copyedit it if you can. If you have any question, please ask. --Holapaco77 (talk) 11:13, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The article is under vandalism attack again. I asked semiprotection. --Holapaco77 (talk) 12:13, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

The 25 DYK Nomination Medal

 * thank you! Yoninah (talk) 13:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. We can't have the person who promotes them not having a medal! — Calvin999  13:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Birds' Head Haggadah
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September 2017 at Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Expedited DYK review request that maybe you could do?
Since you've stepped in in the past in response to these requests on my part, for which I have always been grateful, I was wondering if maybe you could take it upon yourself to review my DYK nomination for 1972 Montreal Museum of Fine Arts robbery. It's another one tied to an anniversary—Monday will be the 45th—and while I have asked on WT:DYK since it is the last week of August I'm not optimistic that anyone will get to it in time. But you, as always, seem to be active and contributing (Although if you are on vacation in some way, I do hope you are having a good time even while contributing). Daniel Case (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for letting me know; I wasn't watching WT:DYK for the past few days (I'm not on vacation, just busy). Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:59, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for The Potters (artists group)
Alex ShihTalk 00:04, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Page move you suggested
Thank you for asking about it.

I don't feel "Death of ..." is appropriate in cases where, like Mrs. Smith, the death has been officially ruled a homicide by investigating authorities. "Death of ..." should be for cases where (among other things) the cause was undetermined or two different investigations have come to different conclusions (i.e., I think that Jonathan Luna should really be Death of Jonathan Luna because a) he isn't notable, his death is and b) the FBI considers his death an accident or botched suicide attempt while the local coroner insists it was a homicide (see also Death of Gareth Williams, a perfect example of IMO the way that title should be used). In the Smith case the North Carolina medical examiner said it was a homicide due to the evidence of stabbing to the chest cavity and the burial of the body.

Likewise, I have been refraining from titling these articles "Murder of ..." since only a trier of fact can conclude the killing was murder, and to call it that before such a verdict has been rendered is, by Wikipedia standards, a violation of BLP and OR (Since 2013 the AP Stylebook has similarly advocated for such usage, and while I resisted that at first when someone raised the point here, I have since calmed down and seen the light. Thus in articles about homicides I have created this year we have Murder of Dee Dee Blancharde (her daughter pled guilty) vs. this and, more recently, Faith Hedgepeth homicide (which I am still hoping to get enough into to squeeze into Thursday's DYK for its five-year anniversary at the last minute), both of which are unsolved (no arrests, no charges).

I have not yet been able to persuade people to retitle existing articles along these lines (see here, where I do also make an extended argument for this naming that I think you would find of interest), although I do eventually believe people will come to see that our policies more or less direct us to that conclusion. In the meantime I have been titling articles that I create this way, as a way of leading by example. Daniel Case (talk) 03:36, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Players Weekend
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Cynthia Propper Seton
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Missed your comment
I missed your comment on Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Stop_Child_Abuse because I forgot the watch the page, and happened to check in later out of curiosity. Will do another review as penance. --MopTop (talk) 15:11, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Maxwell House Haggadah
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Your GA nomination of Maxwell House Haggadah
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Tammy Kingery
I certainly suppose it's possible that someone else had a key, but if the police know anything about that, they haven't said anywhere that I can find. It has also been noted (but not in a reliable source) that the house had a garage door as well (but if it's like every other garage door I know of, it would be impossible to close from the outside without the remote, which would probably have been in Tammy's car back at work. But then again, she could have brought it with her when she came home if she had (as some people suspect) some preconceived plan to meet someone at home while her husband was away.

As for Park, the documentary evidence pretty much supports his story (he can be seen with his son on all the video footage going through stores, his cell-phone pings are in the right place), although in the last act of the Disappeared episode we learn that the police aren't totally satisfied with the results of his lie-detector test. But then he says they've asked him not to talk about it.

As the person who started the Reddit thread about the case on the day after the episode aired said, this was the vaguest episode in the whole series. "Nothing could be talked about. It was not stated whether or not they talked to the man she had an affair with. So like I said more question than answers."

So obviously you're not alone. Daniel Case (talk) 16:59, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Birds' Head Haggadah
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

A Lion of Judah for you!

 * That is an impressive medal, thank you! By the way, I updated the page views] on Zerai Deres, as the previous day had only 21 hits and the succeeding day, 1,074. Best, Yoninah (talk) 19:56, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of White House Passover Seder
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Your GA nomination of White House Passover Seder
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DYK
I was quite upset by your comment "hope you're keeping track: this QPQ is the fourth of the 4-article review.", because I thought it so ungenerous of you. I spend so much time on DYK and want it to succeed. Last year when there was a great backlog of unreviewed nominations I aimed to do two QPQs for every nomination I made. In total I must have done hundreds of QPQs more than my strict requirement. Which brings us to the present when Useernameunique has put a great deal of effort and reduced the backlog to zero. Brilliant.

So suddenly the problem is that there are no unreviewed articles to review and people can't do QPQs. As a response, I troll through the recent GAs and nominate a few for DYK so that there will be articles for people to review. I wouldn't solve the problem if I did not use up one of my ancient reviews but precisely which ones I had previously used would have been quite time consuming to unearth. The four article hook was a convenient proxy. So I am upset that you are criticising, or querying anyway, my altruistic actions. And by the way, please give ER a break. I don't like to see people being harassed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Whoa. I really didn't mean anything by that comment. I was just confused because on each nomination, you wrote "1 article of a four article hook". I'm used to seeing "1 of 4", "2 of 4", etc., so I checked the QPQ to see how many times it had been used. That's all. I'm sorry you took it the wrong way.
 * I also used to do a lot of QPQs that I didn't need credit for, but as you say, Usernameunique has cleaned up the backlog. Since I haven't been writing articles for a while, I do have lots of QPQs in storage. I'm happy to donate them to you whenever you need one.
 * I'm sorry you think I'm "harassing" ER. That has not been my intention either; I've just been trying to ascertain that her nominations meet DYK criteria. I admit that it has been a stressful experience for me, and I am taking a break from promoting her hooks. So now you'll have more hooks to promote :) Yoninah (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If I had waited till now when I am more relaxed, I would not have written as I did above. Anyway, I would always do a new QPQ if I were nominating my own article, and only used those "iffy" old ones under the particular circumstances mentioned above and when nominating other people's articles. With regard to the other matter, I think ER is feeling harassed, not by you but by others, or perhaps DYK folk in general. I will continue to promote her articles when I can. It is currently difficult to keep up with filling two sets a day, but before long we will be returning to one set I expect. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:45, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If you need QPQs, I have been donating them. I have DYK reviews to spare.  Don't want the process to develop Sclerosis.  Let me know if I can help.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red October editathon invitation
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Re:photo from Oakland Tribune
Paste this onto the Commons file page:


 * Full copy of photo crediting Oakland Tribune with the photo


 * Renewal searches were done in publications and in artwork (includes photos) for the years 1959 and 1960. There were no listings for the Oakland Tribune. There's no evidence of current copyright.

In order to determine things like this, the full photo needs to be clipped first (and then the smaller image can be edited from it) The full photo many times shows if this was a news service photo and who took the photo. In this case, the photo was taken by a photographer for the Oakland Tribune, but you won't know that without seeing the entire clipping. Everyone doesn't have a newspapers.com subscription either, so some people won't be able to sign in there and make a larger clipping. We hope (talk) 21:51, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. These images are being clipped by another user, and I really don't want to get into checking all the copyrights. I just asked because I'd like to promote this article for DYK. Thanks again, Yoninah (talk) 21:53, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Wow! Thank you! I've only driven through Houston on a cross-country trip. Austin sounds like a neat place! Yoninah (talk) 20:51, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/S. Sashikanth
Yoninah, the ping probably didn't reach you due to an unfortunate typo, but there has been a response to your concerns here. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:31, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Jacqueline Shumiatcher
Alex ShihTalk 01:02, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Richard Morris
Yoninah, this nomination appears to have been orphaned—it wasn't added back to the nominations page when it was pulled back from prep after a DYK talk-page discussion, so it's fallen off the radar. I think it ought to be put back on the nominations page (not the approved page), but since the issue is notability, it seems to me that someone involved there should probably nominate it for AfD, since that's the one definitive way to establish notability or a lack thereof. Any thoughts before I proceed with the restoration? BlueMoonset (talk) 15:56, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure that this fails notability. It meets WP:POLITICIAN for his mayorship, and there are a number of independent sources for what he did as mayor. Granted, the rest of the article is padding, but everything is adequately sourced. Perhaps you should ask User:Fram or User:Noswall59 if they think it should be nominated for AFD? Otherwise, I'm inclined to pass it for DYK. Yoninah (talk) 18:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yoninah, I'm going to leave it to you at this point. I did post to the nominator's talk page about it; you can read what was said at User talk:Curlymanjaro. The others have had plenty of time to send it to AfD, though it would be nice to avoid it being pulled a second time for the same reasons if it is approved/promoted again. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

DYKs should be vieweable in mobile too
Considering that a large number of people visit Wikipedia on mobile, DYKs must be able to be viewed on mobile devices too. This will increase lot of pageviews to these articles and grant people more info. Has there ever been a proposal like this, if not, how to make a new one ? 31.215.114.79 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * please start a thread at WT:DYK. They'll be able to refer you to the "techies" who handle these sorts of things. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Calgary White Hat
Hello! Your submission of Calgary White Hat at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:25, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK

 * thank you for the recognition! Yoninah (talk) 18:24, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

November editathons from Women in Red: Join us!
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DYK promotion
I don't think you closed the Template:Did you know nominations/John de Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk nomination when you promoted it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:50, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops. Thanks for catching that! Yoninah (talk) 09:25, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * We all do it! ;) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:27, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * When I am building prep sets, I plan to leave one or two gaps, to be filled hopefully by hooks I cannot promote. When it comes to my own nominations, I am generally happy for the image not to be used, with the exception perhaps of Template:Did you know nominations/Nematophagous fungus, the image for which I am rather fond! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Please, can you leave a slot on prep 3 for Sonne der Gerechtigkeit, the most substantial thing I have to offer, mentioned a while ago on DYKTALK, but that talk archived, and the article not yet reviewed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK hook wording
Regarding this edit, I think the singular form fails to convey that the fact applies in general to the cremation pyres of all royal funerals, rather than a single cremation pyre built for a specific funeral. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:58, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I'll restore your original version. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 10:00, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Another thing, I just added a photo of the royal pyre for the upcoming cremation, which might be more relevant for the date. Since it's quite late and the nom's been closed, maybe you could help decide whether it'd work better as the DYK thumbnail? --Paul_012 (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, this new image is more striking. I'm replacing it in Prep 4. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:25, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm lost.
To create it, do I move the template on this page to this section?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:45, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No I mean. To create it. I need to create mine first, then review someone else's correct? By the way, if I am lost, I bet most editors are too. This really needs to be streamlined. This no doubt explains the long backlog.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:50, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you please check that I nominated it correctly?Zigzig20s (talk) 20:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Now I'm discouraged by the review process.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:28, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I reviewed one. Is this OK please?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:11, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello Zigzig, if you look at this review that I have just done Template:Did you know nominations/Tina Seabrook, you will see that it covers all the aspects of a DYK nomination that need to be checked. In the review you did, only some of these criteria are mentioned. The first thing I do when I am reviewing an article is check when it was created or expanded, and whether it is long enough to qualify for DYK. Then I read the article, or the relevant part of it if it is long, and move on to the other DYK criteria. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Like this?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:04, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You are getting there! Now you need to consider whether the facts mentioned in the hook are also mentioned, both in the article and in the source, and have a citation at the end of the sentence in the article. Sometimes the source is not online, and then you have to accept the fact AGF (in good faith), but in this case the money fact source is online. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Omg. This is too onerous.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:55, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Finally, when you think the nomination meets the criteria, you give it a tick, either if you could check the source, or  if you are accepting the hook AGF. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I hope I'm done now? And this process really needs to be streamlined.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:06, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * do you think this process is really too difficult? When I tried to spell it out on paper, it did seem like an awful lot of rules. But I've been doing it so long that I don't really notice (and I enjoy it, too). How much more can we streamline that laundry list at WP:DYKSG? Yoninah (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think the lede is fine. And regarding Newspapers.com, I was told it was fine to cite it like this. I was going to nominate Whitefoord Russell Cole for DYK (Did You Know that Whitefoord Russell Cole threatened his railroad workers with unemployment and loss of pensions if they went on strike?), but the DYK process is too onerous, difficult, long, discouraging and horrible.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Before anyone needs to do a review they will have had 5 nominations which should get them used to the criteria. Zigzig20s has had 37 DYKs so should be able to manage the process. So no, I don't think it is too difficult, but I think we need to not be too critical when new reviewers are doing their best. I think Zigzig20s will do a better review next time. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I came across as critical. I've been trying to be helpful to new reviewers. Yoninah (talk) 18:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I've expanded the lede, but he opened many theaters which are listed on the National Register of Historic Places and now owned by Disney; plus he paid for an entire campus expansion. I have never done these things; have you? I am a complete nobody but I don't think he was. Anyway, there are lots more RS we could add--but I have to go to work soon.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:19, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The other reviews were given to me as co-nominations. Actually Magnolia added the picture; do you think I should add them to the nomination? They didn't expand the text though.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:21, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the notability to the lead. No, I wouldn't add someone to the DYK credits for adding a picture. If they did substantial editing, though, they could be given a co-credit. Yoninah (talk) 18:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Would you like to nominate Whitefoord please? Apparently you enjoy the process... I do not.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:26, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello!
Thanks for your review, I will address the issues you mentioned. 損齋 (talk) 00:59, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Done, please see Template:Did you know nominations/Khufiyya. 損齋 (talk) 01:59, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Reformation hooks
Yoninah, Gerda Arendt, I noticed that there was a hook slot being reserved in Prep 3 for "Sonne der Gerechtigkeit", so I went to look at it in the Approved page's Reformation set. There was also another hook for a hymn there, for "Es spricht der Unweisen Mund wohl‎", which I found more interesting in terms of its Reformation anniversary subject matter: one of eight hymns from the first hymnal of the Reformation, and also by Luther. So I went with it instead; "Sonne der Gerechtigkeit" doesn't mention "Luther" or the Reformation at all, and its source hymns aren't from the 16th century, but the 18th and 19th centuries. The connection to the Reformation anniversary is tenuous at best, so I felt it was not the best choice for this particular occasion, even with the good story; it can easily run some other day. I wanted to let you know right away, so it didn't come as a surprise later.

I was wondering why the November 2 hook is still sitting there unpromoted, since the Prep 5 set is almost full. If it is promoted, I'd definitely move the Amelie hook out of that set so it runs a couple of days later—after the hymnal bounty on October 31 and the lead hook on November 3, waiting until November 4 or 5 for Amelie strikes me as a good idea. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:12, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for taking care of the last hook slot in Prep 3; I think it's a good choice. I moved the Amilie hook to Prep 1 because that's the last open prep set available; it could be moved to a later date. I promoted the November 2 special request to Prep 5. Yoninah (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I was away for rehearsal. I think of the reformation not as an initial kick-off, but an ongoing process, therefore think "Sonne der Gerechtigkeit", written to fight Nazi ideas, and sung at the peace prayers in East Germany, and being an unusual collaboration of writers from three generations, is much more substantial than "Es spricht der Unweisen Mund wohl" which nobody sings today, - only history. Also, two hymns by Luther in one set, really? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thank you for the nice barnstar! Yoninah (talk) 09:19, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Last minute request
Hi Yoninah, My DYK nomination for World tour of Ulysses S. Grant is now in the Staging area and I was hoping it's not too late to add an image of Ulysses S. Grant -- File:Ulysses S. Grant 1870-1880.jpg -- to the template. If this is doable, could you please handle it? It would be much appreciated. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Albert Sidney Johnston (Ney)
Yoninah, I was wondering whether the work done after your last comment on this nomination is sufficient, or if more needs to be done. If you think the article about Johnston needs to be unlinked in the hook, by all means do so. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:50, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Calgary White Hat
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Yoninah: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  Adityavagarwal (talk) 14:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.


 * Thanks, ! Yoninah (talk) 17:47, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Suhayya Abu-Hakima for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Suhayya Abu-Hakima is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Suhayya Abu-Hakima until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Störm  (talk)  19:19, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Khufiyya
Hi, I added a sentence and a reference to make the hook appear in the main article. 損齋 (talk) 00:01, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, Please see the nomination page.損齋 (talk) 02:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Mulungushi Rock of Authority
Thanks for making the Mulungushi Rock of Authority page. I was intrigued by the name while I was editing the Central Province, Zambia article and disappointed that there wasn't more information on it. Tdslk (talk) 03:58, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Yoninah: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  Linguist un Eins uno 21:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.


 * Thanks! Same to you! Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Kimmie Taylor
Thank for promoting this Yoninah. Aren't we going to use the pic? It's quite striking. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * it is, but we really need more bios to fill out the prep sets. I felt the hook stood well on its own. Sorry, Yoninah (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:00, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

WPCan10k article list
I noticed that you added some other editor's articles to the achievements list for The 10,000 Challenge (Canada). Good stuff. The thing is, with multiple signatures per line the list gets a bit bulkier and it's a little more difficult for semi-automated tools to determine which user the article should be credited toward. Also, the article Place D'Youville (Quebec) got listed twice, so I put Jon Kolbert's additions on the same line as PKT's original submission (I should have done that earlier, but have a lot of different things on the go). Since it is a list of improved articles, I don't feel articles should be listed more than once.

I'm not saying you shouldn't list other people's articles, but it could make things a little more complicated the next time the list is analyzed (for awards or what have you). I know the main page is long and a bit daunting for newcomers, which is why I set up this link to add directly to the recent additions list.

Anyways, something to think about. Oh, I just read Calgary White Hat, really interesting! – Reidgreg (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the ping. I came across the Canada 10,000 Challenge by accident and then decided to write a few articles for it. Since I'm busy over at DYK, I then started listing those other Canada-theme articles that you mentioned. But in both cases, I wasn't sure if I was doing the right thing, because neither I nor the other editors signed up as a member of the challenge. Please advise if non-members can contribute. Also, it seems to me that you can find many more new articles to meet the challenge by doing a Wikipedia new article search. Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You don't have to sign-up as a participant to submit articles (the participant list is more for newsletters and other group notices). I did look for content-creators at the beginning of October and sent out a mass-mailing advertising the challenge – essentially sending to editors who had already written qualifying articles.  But I don't want to drag someone into the challenge if they're not interested.  I appreciate you spreading the word when you notice articles at DYK!  There are a few different 10,000 challenges (see Template:The 100,000 Challenge for a current list).  If it's easier, you can send the link above to Canada-content creators, it gives instructions over the edit window to make it a little easier to add to our list. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 22:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Review of Khufiyya
Hello Yoninah, I haven't heard from you since the last time you asked me about the hook. Do you have more concerns to express on this article? 損齋 (talk) 19:04, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for the reminder; I must have missed that on my watchlist. I updated your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 17:08, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Béatrice Saubin
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Canada 10,000 Challenge award

 * Nice! Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 16:47, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Feels good to have those awards out after several weeks.  Now I just have to worry about raking maple leaves. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:29, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Bonesetter
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Auguste Le Guennant
Yoninah, since Gerda didn't like your proposed ALT3b, what do you think of my suggested ALT3c, which cuts a different fact from my earlier proposal? Gerda hasn't objected to it, so perhaps you could proceed with your promotion? Thanks for taking another look. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:52, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Re:Rabbi's photo
Yes, as a non-free image since it's from Canada and he's deceased. We hope (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Rebecca Cohen Henriquez
A couple hundred years ago, I asked if you'd be interested in helping create an article for this woman. After the Huygens Institute finally wrote a biography on her and I found a database of Dutch newspapers, I finally got it written. She wasn't just knighted once, but twice :) SusunW (talk) 23:58, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/2009 Sky Blue FC season
Hi Yoninah. I wrote another hook for the article. Please check it out and see if the new one looks better. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 22:37, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again ...
I knew that if someone were to step up and review the Dardeen family homicides DYK nom on short notice and get it into the queue, it would be you. Thanks again!

And while I might not have if I had been making the decision, I don't blame you for picking the least gory of the four hooks. Daniel Case (talk) 00:38, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

B. pallida
I hope I didn't come off as snarky; your ALT2a is probably more interesting to a general audience which might not be familiar with behavior-altering parasites, and like I said I'd be happy with either of your suggestions. :) Umimmak (talk) 22:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * no, I didn't think that at all. If you want me to use ALT2a, I will. If not, not. Please advise. Yoninah (talk) 22:59, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Completely up to you as the promoter :) I just didn't want you to promote a hook you didn't think was "non-hooky" just to appease me. Umimmak (talk) 23:01, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. Let's leave it, and if someone at WT:DYK says it's not hooky enough, we can switch it. Yoninah (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Mulungushi Rock of Authority
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Aya Koren
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Order in prep areas
Hi Yoninah, earlier today, I've loaded some hooks into prep area 4. Later, I observed that you've shuffled the order. Is there any specific order that is to be followed or any order of precedence etc.? Also I would like to know what are things to be kept in mind while preparing the area. --Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk •&#32;mail) 10:56, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi,, thanks for helping promote hooks! Basically, we try to follow a biography / non-biography order; that's why I separated the wharf and bat hooks to insert a biography in-between. We also try not to put two hooks from the same country next to each other (e.g. two Indian hooks, or two U.S. hooks). It's nice to have a variety of hooks—not all women hooks, for example (there are a lot of them now), or not all "first" hooks. In choosing the lead image, we try to stagger the images across the sets. For example, "person / building / nature / artwork / person". The last hook in the set should be "quirky" (surprising, funny), to end the set on an upbeat note. Hope that helps! Yoninah (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I should also mention that we generally don't put 2 sports hooks, 2 nature hooks, 2 music hooks, or any other hooks on the same theme, in the same set. Therefore I moved this hook out of Prep 4. Similarly, we don't promote articles by the same editor in the same set. BTW a bio hook is one in which the bolded subject is a biography, and a non-bio is one in which the bolded subject is a non-biography. Best, Yoninah (talk) 17:35, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi again. I notice you've promoted a few image hooks to non-image slots. While we do have many more slots for non-images, if an image is really striking or appealing to our broad readership, please keep it for an image slot. I moved the Polaris hook to the image slot in Prep 6 for this reason. Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh! Thank You. How is the line up of other hooks? Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 01:53, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Everything else in Prep 4 looks good! Yoninah (talk) 12:48, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Mashiach Borochoff House
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Darnell Hunt
Hi. Would you like to nominate Darnell Hunt (a prominent African American intellectual) for DYK please? Or I can try but may need more hand-holding.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:54, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll hold your hand. For your QPQ, choose a nomination by a veteran editor. User:Gerda Arendt always has her sources in order, and if they're all in German, you accept it with the gray AGF tick. Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm already discouraged.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:17, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * what do you need help with? Yoninah (talk) 23:18, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I actually forgot the several steps. Was it you or another editor who told me please--I'd like to find it and try to follow it.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Go to WP:DYKN and type in your article name. Fill in as much as you can and if you have trouble, I'll add to the template once it's posted. (If I do it, it will have my name as nominator.) Yoninah (talk) 23:24, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Darnell Hunt. But now I have to do the awful assessment. I am lost.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:47, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK promotion
I don't think you closed the Template:Did you know nominations/Fatou Kiné Camara nomination when you promoted it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:21, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

FishCenter Live userboxes
if you're interested, I started a series of FishCenter Live userboxes.- 🐦Do☭torWho42 ( ⭐ ) 15:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Album cover
Sorry, but this has to go as non-free. You can use it as non-free for an article about the album, but that would be about it unless a cover is so unusual, it's discussed at length in an article. Example of a cover like that-the "butcher" version; that's why 2 covers are allowed there. We hope (talk) 01:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation! Yoninah (talk) 11:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Weichenwang
Yoninah, have your issues here been settled to your satisfaction, or is there more work to be done? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:13, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Merle Chambers
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Israel Isaac Kahanovitch
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Welcome back! Yoninah (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks a lot for explaining me the rules of DYK. Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Re: Hebrew book pages
I would treat this the same as your previous uploads from the site File:Adadi1.jpg File:Adadi2.jpg but for this one, you'll need to remove the watermark at upper right.We hope (talk) 23:23, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't upload that; someone at the Hebrew Wikipedia did, and I just moved it to Commons. I don't know how to upload or remove a watermark. Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK-since I'm not able to read Hebrew, I need a bit of time here. I've learned that a society in Brooklyn has done the scanning of the old Hebrew books.  From the page, it looks like the book was printed in 1795 and that the author's lifetime was from 1485 to 1580. Is this right? We hope (talk) 23:45, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, the book was printed in 1795. Most sources say the author lived from 1485/6 to 1585. I just posted the article: Shimon Lavi. Yoninah (talk) 23:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Let me take a look at the various tags. I think it can be done We hope (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you so much! Yoninah (talk) 00:19, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * But what I need to know is this-from the article, it seems this is the title page from his Ketem Paz and published in Livorno, Italy in 1794. I will take the page and remove the watermark, upload it here under the PD-1923-abroad license, but I'd like you to take a look at the file to see if the assumptions I just made are correct, and if not, fix the file page. OK? We hope (talk) 00:27, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * sure. But it was published in 1795. Yoninah (talk) 00:31, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That's just the name for the tag-what it says is that the item was published outside of the US before 1923. :) We hope (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2017 (UTC)


 * File:Ketem Paz title page.jpg All-righty. :-) We hope (talk) 01:49, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I appreciate this so much! I edited the description and also added categories. Thank you again! Yoninah (talk) 11:44, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you!
i'll admit, i was confused for a bit by this,until i looked at the history, happens to the best of us.

-- Aunva6talk - contribs 04:25, 8 December 2017 (UTC) 

Your GA nomination of Birds' Head Haggadah
The article Birds' Head Haggadah you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Birds' Head Haggadah for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Usernameunique -- Usernameunique (talk) 16:42, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Inauguration of a Torah scroll
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Inauguration of a Torah scroll you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Katolophyromai -- Katolophyromai (talk) 05:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Inauguration of a Torah scroll
The article Inauguration of a Torah scroll you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Inauguration of a Torah scroll for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Katolophyromai -- Katolophyromai (talk) 21:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Amusement
Hi. Is it normal for another editor to review a DYK I already reviewed as QPQ please?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:07, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No. Usually another editor will step in if a few weeks have gone by with no response from the original reviewer. In this case, I think the other editor didn't see any icon on your review, and therefore went ahead with his own. I've left a note on his talk page asking him to let you finish the review. Yoninah (talk) 17:18, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. By the way I'm not 'new' to Wikipedia, but to the QPQ process... That's probably what you meant.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:02, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't tick the review because there are issues (citations needed).Zigzig20s (talk) 19:44, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I've just added a question mark tick. Is this better please? I still think the DYK process is too complicated--I have nominated a couple more to try to get used to them, but if other editors jump on my reviews, I will get discouraged.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. You should always put a tick on your review. I notice that the other editor wasn't really "jumping on" your review, as much as questioning the existence of the page altogether. If this ends up not passing, you will still be credited for a QPQ. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. By the way, do you like my other nominations? I am trying to bring more diversity to DYK...Zigzig20s (talk) 20:47, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Der Morgenstern ist aufgedrungen
Yoninah, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that Gerda had replied to your review here. As it is an Advent hymn, it should probably be completed and put into the Special occasions section as soon as is feasible. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Wucai
Hi there, I can see you developed the article Doucai once. I have created the new articles wucai and kinrande, so please feel free to expand and add it to the DYK list if you wish. Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 15:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
 * perhaps you mean to ask our resident art expert User:Johnbod, who developed Doucai? Yoninah (talk) 18:49, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

The Kentucky Volunteer
I added the necessary citations to The Kentucky Volunteer, just wanted to let you know — Kaz (talk) 21:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Fountain E. Pitts
Dr. J. W. Morton may very well have been John W. Morton (Tennessee politician), but opium is not mentioned in Morton's obituaries and I have not been able to find a good RS to ascertain it was indeed the same person, so I have not wikilinked it.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:27, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Also do you think Charles P. Fahey is too short for a DYK nomination please?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:31, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Charles P. Fahey is a good length. I removed the stub tag. Yoninah (talk) 10:59, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to all!

 * thank you, and Merry Christmas to you, too! Yoninah (talk) 17:25, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you! Merry Christmas to you, too! Yoninah (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...

 * Season's Greetings to you, too. I really like this image! Best, Yoninah (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
 Merry Christmas !!

Hi, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia! ,

– Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 14:00, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you, and Merry Christmas to you and your family, too! Yoninah (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

HH!

 * Thank you! Happy holidays to you, too! Yoninah (talk) 04:23, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

New Year's resolution: Write more articles for Women in Red!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:13, 27 December 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Undo explanation
Hi, Yoninah. I'm undoing your addition of a link because I believe that's a different magazine. Issues of the British publication you linked to used different typography, and cost sixpence (6D), whereas the one in the DYK image costs 20¢.Also, happy new year! M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:27, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you, I think you're right! And Happy New Year to you, too! Yoninah (talk) 21:47, 31 December 2017 (UTC)