User talk:Yoninah/Archive 7

Nuclear policy of the United States
Hello Yoninah,

Thank you for your feedback on the DYK process on my article of the Nuclear policy of the United States, as you will see, the suggested changed have been made. Also the other reviewer, my mentor and I have fixed multiple things on the page including copy, hook, lead, and of course reference formatting. At this point my article should meet all the criteria for the DYK process. When you get a moment please review the article to check and if you feel it passes the DYK criteria, then please pass the article. If you feel it is still lacking, let me know on my talk page and I will try to make the changes in the same day. Shalom Yoninah, Kayz911 (talk) 23:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

David E. Davis
Re: David E. Davis at the Did You Know nominations page, yes, that's great. What do you think of my Alt 2, toned down a bit? Thanks for reviewing the entry! 842U (talk) 12:47, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Susie Fishbein
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Russian police reform DYK
Sorry for forgotting the source for the hook. I have now added it here. Nanobear (talk) 14:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Fab Five
I saw it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Davidka Square
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Yoninah, I saw your note about the square. At the moment it looks much better at night...Hamevin yavin.--Geewhiz (talk) 06:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Henderson Street
Please see my reply. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 20:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Updated it again. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 16:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * +again.  Chzz  ► 20:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your patience with that, and getting what I think is appropriate recognition to a user's first article. Cheers,  Chzz  ► 20:29, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ammiel Hirsch
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

With thanks
Just wanted to say thanks for your kind words in response to my DYK nom of Eveline Hańska. I appreciate your supportive commentary. Have a donut! Scartol •  Tok  20:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Golondrina point
I have finished doing extensive copyediting on the Golondrina point article. It should now (hopefully) be fit for DYK, with your approval. I have also commented on the DYK nom page. Thanks for your reviewing, it is much appreciated, -France3470 (talk) 17:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I see it is now in prep (although the title is not bolded). Thank you for your help. -France3470 (talk) 21:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you note
Many thanks for taking the time to review my DYK submission for Jacqueline Berger and for your kind comments. I see it is now in the queue. Viriditas (talk) 11:46, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

orphan tags do not disqualify DYK nominations (Re: DYK for Wilhelmine Reichard)
While there have been multiple attempts to implement rules disqualifying DYK nominations due to presence of an orphan tag to an article, such attempts have been consistently rejected. This is because such a rule would be built upon three unprovable/faulty reasons:
 * 1) The problem is primarily with the "orphan"ed article (as the "needed" links would never exist in the "orphan"ed article this is clearly false).
 * 2) Appropriate articles exist to allow for incoming links.
 * 3) Addition of new links is possible without violation of core Wikipedia policies such as Neutral point of view.

The article has also been deorphaned. --Allen3 talk 13:10, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Emanuele Fiano
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Template_talk:Did_you_know#Wedding_dress_of_Kate_Middleton
Pls see Template_talk:Did_you_know  Chzz  ► 01:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Request for DYK review
Hi, I was just wondering if you could give Template talk:Did you know a quick one-over. I have asked Dr. Blofeld if it is now up to par, but he has not gotten back to me. Thanks in advance. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Cheers! Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thankyou for the barnstar, much appreciated. I'm glad people have come around to seeing their encyclopedic value.♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yoninah, thank you very much for the appreciation. Very thoughfull barnstar.-- Nvvchar . 04:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK review
I have added necessary prose to the article to take it to 1500 characters. BelloWello (talk) 01:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Prep 3
Your complaint is obviously based upon outdated information. User:Dr pda/prosesize.js shows the article currently contains 2097 characters (345 words) of readable prose size. --Allen3 talk 11:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK reviews
Hey Yoninah. Thanks for the note. I was actually just trying to be helpful. In the case of List of La Sierra University Presidents, it was an old nom that needed to be approved ASAP to keep clearing the backload. In the case of Aman Sveti Stefan, you had suggested an alt hook which, as I understand DYK policy, you couldn't have approved yourself since you wrote it. You therefore needed another reviewer to chime in. Best, 4meter4 (talk) 15:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for David Werdyger
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad
Can't find it. Where it is?♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Norbert M. Samuelson
Was it an accident in reformatting the list of books that you removed the references to the reviews? They're the third party references that show notability for those people, like Hrafn, and NW, who don't believe that WP:PROF is an appropriate guideline. And surely they're relevant information. If you don't like them in the style I wrote them, change them to ordinary references, but I think  indented lists such as the way I did it is much clearer.  DGG ( talk ) 14:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Rabbis categories for renaming
A guten Reb Yona. Asking for your valued opinion on whether to rename Category "Mishnah rabbis" to "Tannaim". Please comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism. Much obliged, as always. Chesdovi (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Chesdovi (talk) 16:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Re DYK Stanislao Gastaldon
See my reply at the DYK page. Let me know if there's still a problem. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:11, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK Ghana Prisons Service
Thanks for the review. I have addressed the concerns you raised. I have suggested a new hook. Hope it is good to go now. Thanks.-- CrossTempleJay     talk 20:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your review. Could you pass your eyes over my other DYK too - National Disaster Management Organization. Thanks looking forward to working closely with you on various WP stuff. Thanks once again.-- CrossTempleJay     talk 21:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have largely corrected all the problems you saw, however, the second reference in the footnote is on a server that is down. I hope it will be back up soon. It is the official page for NADMO and is probably undergoing some maintenance works. I pray you accept it as WP:AGF. Thanks once again.  CrossTempleJay     talk 11:44, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you once again. I accept your hook as good. If you can, please accord the right tag to the DYK. Thank you a lot. You have been very helpful. -- CrossTempleJay     talk 12:37, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

AGF ref
The hook ref for James G. Rickards is in an audio file, but it is also transcribed (in part) here. Should I include this in the article? It's a blog post; I normally try to avoid them as sources. Thanks for your interest in my last couple of DYK noms. Did you happen to see the page hits for Bart Chilton? It was just 300 shy of that magic 5,000. I was pleased enough, though. Marrante (talk) 20:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just in case you didn't see it, I wrote my reply to you on my talk page. Marrante (talk) 17:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Genesis Housing Group
Thank you for your feedback insightful. I had not planned to do quite so much work on one article as I prefer to edit and use broad brush rather than do detail work. However on reflection I have now tagged the article for copy editing. Since this was my first have a go at DYK it is interesting to see what it is like, I appreciate the experience.

 User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 21:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Nosson Meir Wachtfogel
The DYK project (nominate) 17:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Norbert M. Samuelson
Materialscientist (talk) 01:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Peter Ochs
I approved your DYK nomination. Its obvious that it meets all the requirements. Can you explain (in simple terms) what is meant by "2x expanded and sourced (BLP)"? I see that often and am not quite sure what it means. Should it not be 5 times expansion? - which your's was. Thanks for helping me understand this.--Doug Coldwell talk 11:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 184 38th Street
Thanks for the review. I think I cleared everything up at DYK:184 38th Street. --GrapedApe (talk) 03:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Ochs
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Israeli Charity
Thank you for your prompt reply to my question. Good for them that they help everyone equally. Perhaps it ought to be mentioned. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 16:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Template_talk:Did_you_know
Thanks for the review. Cites added. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 00:11, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a common misconception. Remember, this is a wiki, and sentences may be moved, added to, and so on. Just few days ago I reviewed a DYK and asked the nom for an ref for the hook inside a para. The para first and last sentence had the same ref, and you'd think the middle, where the hook was from, would have the same one, right? But it was instead another source the nom used, but forgot to add to that para. This is just one of many cases which prove that it is better safe than sorry, and referencing each sentence is the right thing to do. For UZZ, imagine - what if somebody were to add new content to the middle of that para, with a reference - would you then assume that the beginning of that para is referenced with the new, middle-of-the para ref? Or split it into two, thus leaving the first one unreferenced? I hope you see now why each sentence has to have its own reference. Could you restore the refs you removed? Thank you, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 00:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of DYK:W.D. Childers
Hi, just wanted to let you know that I believe I have taken care of the citations for the W.D. Childers article. Thank you for your help, what is the next step in this process? Frank0051 (talk) 00:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I saw you updated the nomination page :-). Is it really going to the front page? When? I would love to take a screen shot. Frank0051 (talk) 00:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for David F. Ford
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:32, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

tense
re your edit the proper tense for historical events is the simple past "he cut" and not the contrived Behind the Music  "he would continue" Active  Banana    (bananaphone  19:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Rabbi Yaakov Weinberg biography article references
Hello

I changed all the obsolete "shemayisrael" references to "chareidi.org" which is the new home of what was formerly at chareidi.shemayisrael.com

You changed them all back to the non-working links. I assume that you did not test out the old links. I am not so familiar with Wikipedia editing and I do not know how to selectively reverse those changes. Would you please check this out put back the revisions to chareidi.org?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mp1233 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK Saltpond Oil Field
Thanks for the review on my DYK. I have corrected the hook. Could you please review it. Thanks. -- CrossTempleJay   →  talk 18:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Carl M. Kuttler, Jr.
Calmer  Waters  06:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:OVERLINK
Thx for your message. Three years ago, we used to link everything in sight. Now practice has changed significantly. In particular, please note the WP:PILLAR that says "WP is not a dictionary". Readers are expected to be able to read English. "Composer" should not be linked unless there's a particular reason for doing so. "England" is a common country name, and the readers do speak English. If you want to visit that article, you can type it into the search box. Having "England" linked in half a million articles is rather pointless, don't you think? And where the town or city comes first, is it normal to link it, but not the less focused, larger geographical name after it. The guideline discourages (1) bunched-up links, (2) less focused links, and (3) links to well-known words unless they are of particular utility to readers. Can you point me to who is "calling for" composer to be linked in leads? Tony  (talk)  09:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Ref tags: once you start reffing just about every sentence and half-sentence, the ref tags become irritating to readers without adding much in the way of verifiability. Often you can get away with retroactive ref tags (end of a paragraph, if it's not unclear, and especially if the claims being referenced are not contentious). "Child took his first composition lessons at the age of 12 with Bernard Barrell.[3] He began attending Keele University in Staffordshire, England, but transferred to Reed College of Portland, Oregon in 1973 in a junior-year exchange program;[3]". The first section goes 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 1, 3, 1, 1, 3, 3 .... I would object to this as an editor. If you're getting your info from two sources in this para, I'd put [1][3] at the end of it and be done. Again, can you point me to instances at GA where reviewers are asking for this? Tony  (talk)  09:17, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

ANI discussions about synagogue deletions
Hi Yoninah: Trust you are well. Because of your expertise in this topic you may be very interested in the discussions at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 09:28, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

fyi
Hi. I know you've already expressed a view, and it of course may not change your view, but I just wanted to let you know that since then I added a number of sources to Agudas Achim Congregation (Alexandria, Virginia), the subject of Articles for deletion/Agudas Achim Congregation (Alexandria, Virginia). Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your kind words.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * And thanks again.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:08, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Costa Rican general election, 2002
I've added some more online refs. Thanks for moving it to the right section as well! Seems a long time since I've been at DYK and I'm sure the most recent used to be at the top! Cheers, Number   5  7  20:42, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph S. Freedman
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Child
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Link in 'Mahane Yehuda'
Regarding the link in the 'Mahane Yehuda' page:

I live in Israel. When I go to the link, I am redirected to: http://www.haaretz.com/, HaAretz's homepage. Furthermore, when I do a search for Kordova's article, "Playing the Market" on the HaAretz site, I get nothing. I even sifted through all of Kordova's articles one by one and still nothing.

When you click on the link, do you get the article? And if so, are you redirected to a different address? If you are redirected, than perhaps the actual redirect address should be used for the 'Mahane Yehuda' page citation so it will work for everybody. Atefrat (talk) 04:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Usually HaAretz is pretty good with archived articles (unlike Jerusalem Post). Maybe the author withdrew the article.  Anyway, TY for the new link. Atefrat (talk) 13:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Chavruta
Materialscientist (talk) 08:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Rami Levi Shivuk Hashikma
Calmer  Waters  00:04, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Shomrim (volunteers)
Thank you for the wonderful editing you did on the Shomrim article. Could you join this conversation as well? We'd like to hear your thoughts. Joe407 (talk) 13:41, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Majid Manteghi
Thank you for your edit on the page Majid Manteghi. Apparently it is not going to fly. Since I'm fairly new in WP, it takes me some time to learn the rules. I've seen many pages from other assistant prof. at WP and I though it might be OK to add this page. I can add 12 Journal papers and more than 30 conference papers to the list but I still think the page wont fly. Now, I don't know how to delete the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majid50 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Shlomo Chanoch Rabinowicz
Thank you for creating this interesting article. When you create beyond-stub articles with inline references, like Shlomo Chanoch Rabinowicz, please consider nominating your work for front page exposure at T:TDYK. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 19:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Thelma Pressman
Thanks for adding this article. DYK needs you. Victuallers (talk) 08:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeshiva Gedola of Carteret
Hi Yoninah: Can you help with citations, RE: Articles for deletion/Yeshiva Gedola of Carteret. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 10:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Either way, you forgot to cast your vote at the AfD. Others have chimed in with good reasons to keep it. You may find what they have to say informative. Best wishes, IZAK (talk) 07:33, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Mentorship and guidance for a zealous deletionist
Hi Yoninah: Your experience in building up and referencing articles in Orthodox Judaism over the years would make your input greatly appreciated at User talk:CapMan07008 for User aka "The Terminator" who has admitted he's new and would welcome guidance. Thanks a lot, IZAK (talk) 06:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion "Crusade" lol...
Dear Yoninah, I thank you for taking out time to guide me, I am relatively inexperienced and can use guidance from experienced users like yourself. As for my AFD nomination, I am only nominating pages for deletion that have been marked as needed for quite some time in same cases over 3 years, and after and even go a google news, scholar, books, and free images search on them to see if I can add something. It's only after I've done this I tag AFD on them for example look at this, I just marked it as needing sources and I'll it as that for a year or so Yeshiva_Rabbi_Chaim_Berlin, on the other hand have you read this Guru_Gobind_Singh_Sikh_Center doesn't read like an Encyclopedia, and no references has been marked as such for over 4 years, and I did a reference search on it and the results were presented when I marked it with an afd Articles_for_deletion/Guru_Gobind_Singh_Sikh_Center.

It's not only Orthodox Judaism article I've marked for deletion, look at my very first contribution, it was a Sikh gurdwara, also I read so much about Hachnasat_Sefer_Torah in all the articles that you think I just deleted them without thinking. Speaking of which can we have this page forward to the Sefer_Torah instead of deleting it?

Back to the point, please let me know what should I do, instead of AFDing, what I see as, bad articles. As for the Judaism articles I will drop them on your talk page and seek your guidance before I AFD them. What about the non-judaism article what do you suppose I do about them. I think you for guiding me, I am new and I know I've already started on the bad foot with several people, but I just wanna help. The Terminator p  t  c  12:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Yoninah,

Verifiability states "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." If I read a lot of these articles like Mesivta_Tiferes_Yisroel It sounds like someone from that Yeshiva wrote about their own Yeshiva. Nonetheless I will drop them on your talk page before doing anything. The Terminator p  t  c  14:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You seem knowledgeable about this stuff. So, I'm gonna discuss them here before afding them.  The Terminator  p  t  c  15:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

English vs. Hebrew/Jewish
I am sure you are aware of this and In ictu oculi's fine attempt to rewrite probelmatic Hebrew references per MOS. Why is this any different from Palestine/Eretz Israel?! Do you wish to use Hebrew/Jewish term for all Jewish subject. That would not go down well. We do not have Placement of kvitels in the Kotel. Chesdovi (talk) 13:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just looked at Land of Israel and it doesn't look as if it was called that by anyone at any time. Chesdovi (talk) 14:00, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Yaakov Yitzchak Rabinowicz
I did not have in mind to add each hasidic rebbe who is called "ha-kadosh". Maybe this is an exception? Chesdovi (talk) 13:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Joe407 (talk) 07:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Chaim Avraham Dov Ber Levine haCohen
Hi. Yes, more will come when I get round to it, but don't let that stop anyone else. Either way for category and other purposes a bio stub needs to be there rather than just a redirect to a mention, even a big mention, in the group he founded. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Jewish template vote
Hi Yoninah: Your wise input would be greatly appreciated at these two votes about the same thing, see: Templates for discussion/Log/2011 September 25 and Categories for discussion/Log/2011 September 25. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

N D Brayer
Nice work. Do you want me to upload or is the current image okay? Chesdovi (talk) 12:17, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Eliezer Shlomo Schik
"'Shick started a new approach to Torah study where one should say the words without focusing on understanding because he will understand in the next world.'" I heard about such a practice in Breslov from my mashgiach, although for a different reason. Chesdovi (talk) 16:12, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mordechai Shlomo Friedman
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:40, 27 November 2011 (UTC)