User talk:YooChung

Dong-A University
Hi YooChung!Nice to meet you. Thank you for your edits on Dong-A University. I would like to provide citations for the statements that you tagged. There are a number of statements, however, that I did not write but have heard repeated in conversations over and over again in Busan and Gyeongnam. The statement about Dong-A U. being a top employer is one of those, and another is:

The Dong-A Medical Centre plays a leading medical role in research and treatment in Busan and Gyeongsangnam-do areas.

It would be a shame to get rid of these constructions since they are oft repeated in daily conversations in the local area. However, I agree with you that as it stands right now, they could be described as POV.

Could you please suggest a way to handle statements such as the ones in Dong-A University article and others like them (e.g. Busan National University is the best university in Busan, Nampo-dong has lost popularity as shopping and entertainment area, apples from Seongju are the best, Daegu women are the most beautiful and those from Jeju-do are the toughest, etc)? Such statements are common in Korean articles but in many cases sources cannot be supplied. PLease forgive my note on your talk page but my attempts to engage people in discussion on the Dong-A talk page have been ignored. *^^*. --Mumun 03:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd try to make the statements more factual (not to mention citing sources). E.g., about Dong-A University having a ##-strong alumni network, I would have reworded it as the university simply ## number of alumni as of a certain date.  (Which I didn't since I think the number of alumni may not be interesting information in itself, or at least a number which is doomed to being constantly out of date.  Also, being "known" and having "an extensive presence in society" are really subjective measures.)  Some of the principles I follow are:
 * I accept an organization's claim about simple statistics about the organization itself, unless I have reason to suspect it to be disreputable. Thus I wouldn't need separate cites if the official website includes the information is linked.
 * I want independent sources for comparisons about multiple organizations.
 * I try to edit peacock terms into specific and neutral claims. (When I tried to find sources for some of the statements in Dong-A University's page, I realized that I had no idea what "known alumni network", "well-known archeology department", "leading medical center", etc. really meant.)
 * I try to include sources if I can, not only for verifiability but also for people who wish to further research a subject.


 * So for some of your examples, I would try to:
 * List specific numbers for the museum and don't say that it's well-known. (I'm actually planning to do this based on the information from the museum's website.)
 * Cite recognition by third parties and specific statistics about the influence about the medical center. (I found out that it was branded as SRSI by SBNC, but I can't find the original source due to it being available only commercially in a newspaper site.  This also means that I'm not sure what this entails.)
 * Cite rankings from independent sources for Busan National University.
 * I'd try to find out statistics about the economical output or the number of businesses of a certain type for Nampo-dong which shows decline in popularity.
 * For claims such as Daegu women being the most beautiful or those from Jeju being the toughest, I would reword them as "such and such is a common sentiment among such and such people" and cite at least two sources from newspaper articles or such which treat them as "common" knowledge. (A web search shows the former being apparently a common statement, but I wonder why the heck I've personally never heard of it?  Maybe I need to get out more ...)


 * I would be wary of "common statements" in a certain area, since it's not improbable that they're not common in other areas (or even other people in the same area). If a statement is overtly biased, I would try to edit for neutrality.  If sources cannot be found, I would eventually (for varying values of eventually) delete it.  This is just me, however, though I do strongly feel that biased statements should at least be tagged as biased or unsourced as a reminder.


 * Anyways, I'll try to work on some of the questionable statements when I get time. (Edits by people who actually know the subject matter would be much better, obviously.) YooChung 07:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

commons:User:YooChung
I assert to be the same user as commons:User:YooChung. YooChung 15:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Daejeon Schools
I don't think You should have cut the school section. KAIST is one of the top Korean universities and certainly needs to be mentioned. While there ARE a number of universities in the city, I don't see any-thing wrong with a "laundry list" of them even if that what it comes to. I think all the universities should be listed. Kdammers 02:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll put the links back into their own section, then. YooChung 02:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Paranormal
Hey, I saw you added a 'small' option to this template. Could you tell me what this is, and how to impliment it? I'm still pretty new at wiki-syntax. --InShaneee 06:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * By including  as an option, message boxes are smaller and put to the side.  Compare with small boxes and without small boxes.  WP:TS describes how to use them. YooChung 06:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

JoongAng university evaluation
The 2006 JoongAng university evaluation was mentioned in the Six private universities in South Korea article. If you think that JoongAng is notable, you might want to start an article on it or on the evaluation. There may already be an article about one or both in the Korean Wikipedia. --Eastmain 03:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Joongang Ilbo already has its own page. As for the university evaluation, while it's fine as an independent source, I'm not sure if it's notable by itself to get its own page. YooChung 03:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Please check your email.
Please check your email. It's hard for me to use wikipedia User talk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurhahn (talk • contribs)


 * I do not intend to use email. YooChung 14:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I deleted every article I wrote. I hope this satisfy you. I tried to provoke an edit war but decided to quit. Soon I will remove this message, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurhahn (talk • contribs)

Re:AfD discussion deletion
I was trying to clean up the mess of redirects because at least one of them was actually tagged db-author. I must've zapped the wrong one. Sorry about that. enochlau (talk) 01:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for you images of Daejeon
Happy New Year, YooChung. I appreciate your good pictures and contributions. There has not many pictures of metropolitan cities in South Korea except Seoul. Your pictures are really good in every aspects. I hope you enjoy editing here. Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

PGP-Key
Hello YooChung, the PGP-key you provide on your user-page is expired. Could you please renew it so it can be more usable? :-). --DaB. (talk) 14:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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