User talk:YorunnV

Your submission at Articles for creation: Youth unemployment in China (November 19)
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Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:34, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Youth unemployment in China (November 19)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Herpetogenesis was:

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HᴇʀᴘᴇᴛᴏGᴇɴᴇꜱɪꜱ (talk) 18:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Welcome
Hello, YorunnV and welcome to Wikipedia! It appears you are participating in a class project. If you haven't done so already, we encourage you to go through our training for students.

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We hope you like it here and encourage you to stay even after your assignment is finished! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  13:21, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Essay and original research
Hi! I realized that my note was going to go long, so I wanted to post on your talk page. Essentially, the draft reads like an essay paper where you use available sources to draw your own conclusions. This is something that is fine in classroom settings and almost everywhere else, but isn't really permitted on Wikipedia.

Original research
Basically, we cannot create our own research or draw our own conclusions, as we can only summarize what has been explicitly stated in reliable sources - even if it seems super obvious. So for example, I give the following description:


 * I am looking at an animal with four legs, pointed ears, and a tail. It likes eating meat and lives in my home.

Let's also say that my profile has a picture of a cat. So you assume that the description is of a cat, right? Well... what if I'm actually describing a dog? Or a ferret? There are a lot of animals that could fit that description. I could also have a fox, if I were eccentric enough. As such, we couldn't say "ReaderofthePack has a cat" and at most, could only say that I had an animal in my home. Now let's say that a reliable source wrote about this and said "I think she's describing a cat". We could then say "ReaderofthePack has an animal that (Source) stated describes a cat". If the source went so far as to confirm this for their article, then we could absolutely say "ReaderofthePack has a cat".

Now there are no real high stakes here, but it's different when it comes to Wikipedia articles since people come here for information. As such, it's important to really only summarize what has been explicitly stated. It's super frustrating sometimes admittedly. Other than that, make sure that every major claim has a source and that what is claimed is stated in the source. You also want to avoid writing "if... therefore..." statements.

Studies as sourcing
Something else to be careful of is sourcing. Be extremely cautious when it comes to using research studies as sourcing. It's kind of discouraged because at their core, a research study is original research. Even if it's published through a reputable journal, the study findings are really only accurate for that one specific group that was surveyed and under those specific circumstances. All sorts of factors can dramatically change study results.

For example, a study about hobbies will produce dramatically different results based on factors like age, income levels, cultures, and countries - just to name a few things. That's why it's better to be cautious when using a source to make a blanket statement. Many issues transcend countries, cultures, and so on, but they're still not going to be the exact same.

That's not to say that studies can't be used at all - I would recommend using them for their literature reviews, where the researchers summarize existing literature on the topic. Those can be especially helpful when it comes to "different studies, different findings" situations. I haven't really checked to see if you were using the study information or the literature review in the study sourcing for the claims, but I did want to caution you on this. I'd recommend reviewing WP:MEDRS for an overview of studies as sourcing. This isn't a medical/health related topic so you don't have to be exactly as stringent, but it is a topic where journal articles will be a common source. As such, I recommend reviewing the page.

General stuff
I know this is a lot so I'll stop here - I think you have a very good topic here and one that should be on Wikipedia. It's just one that can easily get picked apart so I wanted to give you a little info since I don't see where others have. This all feels a bit like it's a college/academic paper so I definitely recommend giving the student resources a look over. Even if it's not, there is still a lot of good information there!

Feel free to reach out to me with any questions - I'm not on as often as I once was, but I'm definitely still willing to help! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  14:05, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Youth unemployment in China (November 20)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Vanderwaalforces was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


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Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Youth unemployment in China
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)