User talk:Yosichen/Jewish views on marital relations

Some comments on the page
First of all, I am touched that you asked me for some assistance. I do not have a lot of time right now, but I hope to take a look later in the week.

Some notes:


 * The grammar needs some work. Don't worry about that; I'll be glad to fix the final version. I work with Romanians; I have a lot of experience.
 * I would not mention the attittude of Christinaity, as that is probably as complex as the Jewish one, and we are likely to be burned over it.
 * I'm not sure you characterized the Jewish attitude correctly. It appears that the early rishonim were generally negative, with some postiive views, and the psitive view is considered more practical today. I would probably mention sanctification-thorough-limitation (taharas hamishpacha and arayot), and that the Rambam lists these laws under holiness, and Rashi quoting the medrash
 * If you have it, please look at the introduction of Rav Chavel to the Igeres Hakodesh in Kisvei Haramban. If not, I will try to review it this week-end. He states that the Ramban's view is similar to the Rambam's, and that the Ramban is unlikely, therefore, to have written the Igeres Hakodesh, which has a positive view, although perhaps just for Tzaddikim. (I need to look at it again.) So do not directly ascribe a view from Igeres Hakodesh to the Ramban.
 * You might also be interested in knowing that the Steipler wrote a one-page "sex manual" for newleyweds. I can probably find the source.
 * We need to get some sources as to how applicable the sexual rules. a.k.a., hilchot tzniut (you should mention the name) apply today. Obviously Tahas hamiscpacha does, and certainly prohibitions on "sodomy" and fallatio, and the basic rules, but I am not sure all of the details are recommended today.
 * Of course, reference the other articles, such as tzniut, arayot, and taharas hamishpacha. The latter should be mentioned in the header.
 * Co-incedentally, I am expecting some material this week that may help.Mzk1 (talk) 20:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

One other thing - did you think perhaps to instead replace Judaism and Sexuality? I just removed the entire David and Johnathan part.Mzk1 (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your attention. Since my English was very weak, I can not comment on your stuff. Anyway, I'd be glad if you find time to improve my article. Yosichen (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this because you have trouble with my English, or because you have trouble commenting in Hebrew. If the first, tell me how I can help. I can simplify it, or I can explain it by phone. If the second, please comment in Hebrew. I just don't type well in Hebrew.Mzk1 (talk) 20:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

your request
I am not so knowledgeable about these halochos (I am not yet a chosson, and therefore havent gone thru chosson classes) but from what I do know this is relatively accurate. I would suggest you ask a rov to check this over before publishing it as an article. Regarding grammar and cohesion of the article as a whole, ask an editor who is a buki in grammar.

בהצלחה רבה --Shuliavrumi (talk) 19:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

your request
I am not so knowledgeable about these halochos (I am not yet a chosson, and therefore havent gone thru chosson classes) but from what I do know this is relatively accurate. I would suggest you ask a rov to check this over before publishing it as an article. Regarding grammar and cohesion of the article as a whole, ask an editor who is a buki in grammar.

בהצלחה רבה --Shuliavrumi (talk) 19:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)