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Proposed deletion of Erzurumlu Ibrahim Hakki


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 * Fails WP:N - no sources, and Google search turns up nothing in English. I cannot read sources in Arabic or Turkish (sorry, I'm English) so if these exist, please add them to the article to prevent deletion.

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Some advice
I see you're having a bit of difficulty getting anything done here at Wikipedia. Can I suggest that you might want to read my advice to new users? It's a good place to start. Regards, TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 20:30, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

More of the same
It's not for us to decide how to interpret history. Recent edits made by you to Hezârfen Ahmed Çelebi and Lycia seem aimed not to more accurately reflect sources, but to favour an interpretation. To be frank, several edits seem motivated by "feelings", personal disposition to the subject; this is something we all struggle with- just a well intended 'heads-up'. Mavigogun (talk) 06:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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Malatya
I would be interested in seeing your sources that state Malatya/Melitene was taken by the Danishmend Turks in 934. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:44, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I got it confused with the final 1101 taking over of the city by the Danishmend Turks. Thank you for enlightening me.Yozer1 (talk) 07:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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Reverts on Hasan_Cemal
I saw your reverts on Hasan_Cemal. On wikipedia, we're picky about living people, anything that's said about them has to have  a reliable source behind it. Your post has what looks to be an opinion piece from a Turkish newspaper. Admittedly, I can't tell if the newspaper is reliable, the piece itself appears to not be reliable. Instead of reverting, may I suggest you place a note on our reliable sources board and ask if this is indeed a reliable source. If you keep reverting, you could be blocked for it. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh  17:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your notification KoshVorlon. It seems that you will accept my contributions to Hasan Cemal if I find a "reliable" source. Sure, I can do that. In fact, I can find numerous sources to justify my case. But there is no need, it is not that important. The source that I had on is admittedly from the pen of another writer. I am fluent in a couple of languages, you will have to take my word for the translation.

As for reverting, may I remind you that my contribution were deleted. I would have thought the person who removed them would be warned of vandalism. Thank you.


 * Yozer1 - thanks for your response, actually, I was able to read the Turkish source you presented with Chrome (I have a translator plugin for it ).   It looks like an opinion piece, and yes, it does talk about Hasan Cemal, but it never uses the word "unappologetic".   If you want that term to be in that article, you'll need a reliable source that says just that  (take a look at  our BLP policy  and you'll see what I mean.    As far as taking your word for it, actually, even if it's in another language, we have speakers of other languages that could verify what the source says.    We almost never take anyone's word for it, we  require a source that says what the entry is saying (the only exception is  anything from our OTRS team  as they deal with non-public information.   I invite you to ask around about this, since I'm not a sysop, nor an admin, nor anything other than an editor, just as you are.   KoshVorlon . We are all Kosh   11:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * KoshVorlon - I see. Thanks again for the valuable info.

Conquest of...
Hallo Yozer, I reverted you because you wrote "Conquest of Istanbul" which is a nonsense and as link points to nothing (red link). Alex2006 (talk) 15:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit-warring and comment removal
You've been warned for edit-warring: if you revert again you can expect to be blocked. Additionally, if you remove other editors' comments again, you may be blocked for disruptive editing. Please use the article talkpage to arrive at a consensus.  Acroterion   (talk)   16:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't do this again. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time because my warning may not have come in time.   Acroterion   (talk)   16:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

ANI discussion
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November 2013
You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. I blocked your account for 24 hours for edit warring on Erzurum, Talk:Erzurum, and User talk:Sandstein. In particular, in Talk:Erzurum you made four reverts, and on the two talk pages I mentioned you made no constructive contribution, just reverting edits of other users. This is not an acceptable dispute resolution avenue. Please resort to constructive editing when the block expires. Note that I treat the block as usual and I did not check whether you have any Arbcom restrictions. If you do, the block can be modified by any administrator.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:BRD to see how it's done. Yozer1 made no attempt to discuss it on the talk page and repeatedly removed the talk page discussion I started. Helen  Online  17:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I strongly recommend you follow Helen's advice. It's clear that you don't understand how to constructively interact with other editors and your subterfuge saying that your edit warring opponents did not discuss things on the talk page is pure WP:TE.  If this continues after your block expires, your next block will likely be indefinite.  Toddst1 (talk) 21:34, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I am entitled to my point of view, supported by evidence, as you are to yours.Yozer1 (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Erroneous Turkish Translations
Your interpretation of the Turkish "fetih" as "liberation" instead of the ubiquitous "conquest" is bizarre; the Turks universally proffer "conquest". What is your explanation for this? It seems that either your apprehension of English or Turkish is in error, or you are advocating an atypical personal preference.Mavigogun (talk) 21:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Trying to debate with and satisfy the opposing point of view is not easy. Thank you for your support.Yozer1 (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * What opposing view?  Please cite one instance of "Mehmet the Liberator" - as I can find NOTHING.   Who are these people that call Mehmet The Conqueror "liberator"?   What are their names?   Where are they published?Mavigogun (talk) 22:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ayrı şeylerden bahsediyoruz. "Fall of Constantinople" yerine bir "Conquest of Constantinople" dene, gör kaç kişi karşı çıkıyor.Yozer1 (talk) 12:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * So, no credible references?Mavigogun (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Wake up and do some research. It is a liberation from the tyranny of the Byzantines from a Muslim point of view. E.g.: http://www.alsunna.org/forum/index.php?topic=62.0 or http://www.muslimmotherhoodsg.com/sultan-muhd-alfateh-result-of-islamic-religious-education-from-young/. But as you can see, I have not pursued pushing that label since it might not be considered neutral.Yozer1 (talk) 18:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That settles the issue nicely: the edit was most definitely propaganda.  Wikipedia is not a venue for promoting a political agenda, a particular view, or favoured interpretation- nor is a forum rant a credible source.   YOU should have disdained such a label because YOU assessed that it would advocate a highly marginal partisan point of view.   Unless you are able to report judiciously and faithfully adhere to the tenants of Wikipedia, desisting would be wise. Mavigogun (talk) 20:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * So says a User:Mavigogun who falsely claims trees were cut in the construction of the Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge. Your reference does not mention any trees being cut. In addition, the Italian construction company says the plans never changed during construction. Are you ignoring that point of view and pushing your own Gezi-minded propaganda? Yozer1 (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Please see
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Suggestion
If I were you, I would avoid removing any information that could be construed as disruptive editing. Since the references were there, simply at the end of the following sentence. I have restored the information, including a quote from the source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for adding the rest of the sentence. Now, what would you do if I were to bring you contrary evidence? Yozer1 (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Topic ban from Armenia and Azerbaijan
See the decision at [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=583950980&oldid=583950787 this AE thread]. Let me know if you have any questions. EdJohnston (talk) 20:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


 * A little late, aren't you? Yozer1 (talk) 20:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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 * Your next block may very well have indefinite duration, so I strongly advise you to take the ArbCom enforcement and your topic ban seriously.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you Ymblanter. You would be doing me a favor. I would have more time for other activities in life. The loosers would be Wikipedia users. Yozer1 (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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See here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You call it violation, I call it fixing errors. Yozer1 (talk) 23:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * Is it time to sign-up for a new account? Why bother? Not many people take Wikipedia seriously anyway. Yozer1 (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That would be agianst policy, and the new account would be blocked as well (it's quite easy to detect such things). You can appeal the block if you think you shouldn't have been blocked or if you think the duration is unfair. Either place unblock below, along with your statement, which will be copied over to AE, or email arbcom-appeals-en@lists.wikimedia.org. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  23:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the info. Yozer1 (talk) 14:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * Hello! You are absolutely correct. Except for the Marmaray project which belongs to Istanbul, the rest can go. Thank you for the notice. -Yozer1 (talk) 13:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the info and heads up. -Yozer1 (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Hello, that ban was revised to a one-year period. Thank you, -Yozer1 (talk) 04:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you were blocked for one year (at first indefinitely). The ban is still in effect. EdJohnston is correct and you must undo your comment. Dougweller (talk) 10:08, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * And you edit at Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement‎ certainly seems disruptive (and was reverted by another Arbitrator). Dougweller (talk) 10:11, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about that. How was my edit there 'disruptive'? Please explain your logic. -Yozer1 (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Let's see. You changed the archiving, something you definitely shouldn't touch. You added a closed report on Lecen from 2013. And your own ban report from the same year. Neither of which belonged there. So I can't see how it was anything but disruptive. Dougweller (talk) 10:38, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I did not read the section in the user manual on what can be touched and what cannot, or where things belong and where they do not. Anyway... -Yozer1 (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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Personal attack should be removed
Please remove [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kansas_Bear&diff=prev&oldid=654810198 this personal attack] against User:Kansas Bear. Since you are under a topic ban from WP:ARBAA2, there is no excuse for you to comment on any Armenian matters, or to accuse others of editing with 'Armenian tendencies'. Please remember that your last block was for one year. Don't tempt fate by showing us that you are still continuing with your former ways. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey, hey, you guys are a mafia! How about you warn Kansas Bear for breaking Wikipedia rules and deleting added info without asking for citations. I can provide you all the citations you need. But I sense there is another agenda here. Anyway, Wikipedia is never going to be a credible source of information with users who do not play by the rules and administrators who don't act impartially. And to threaten another user with another ban! Where are other administrators? Are they on break? Do I have to complain to get attention? What a waste of time... -Yozer1 (talk) 08:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement block 2
To enforce an arbitration decision you have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 year. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page:. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.  Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted a procedure instructing administrators as follows: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped." Per my comments above, you were given a chance to fix the situation by reverting your statements that violated your ban from WP:ARBAA2. You declined to remove the statement in which you accused Kansas Bear of having "Armenian tendencies". You made a new edit where you [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kansas_Bear&diff=prev&oldid=654886118 childishly address him as 'Yogi Bear']. Mere insults will probably roll off his back, but your behavior suggests you have no intention of following the rules in this part of the encyclopedia. The only option for us is to repeat your last one-year block. Topic bans have value only for those who understand and are willing to follow them. EdJohnston (talk) 02:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) Yozer1 originally left the comment about Kansas Bear’s Armenian tendencies’ here, at 18:20 on 3 April. This the one that he heads with “Issues with reality.”
 * 2) I invited him to remove the comment here, at 02:16 on 4 April.
 * 3) He replied to my request at 08:17 on 4 April in the thread you can still see at User talk:Yozer1. He did not remove the ‘Armenian tendencies’ comment. At that point I decided that Yozer1 was not going to change his position and issued the block, which occurred at 02:00 on April 5. On his own initiative, Kansas Bear had removed Yozer1's ‘Armenian tendencies’ comment from his own talk page at 00:42 on 5 April.


 * The responses by Yozer1 seem to assume he is still a regular editor in the ARBAA2 space and is entitled to banter back and forth with User:Kansas Bear about the quality of citations. This reinforces my impression that he doesn't recognize the ban and is simply continuing his old ways, that originally led to the the sanction. The ban was imposed at AE in November 2013 and is still in effect. EdJohnston (talk) 13:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I responded to your warning with respect and removed the comment.
 * You should give ample time to users to respond to your requests. People are not stuck on Wikipedia 24 hours a day. Normal people have jobs and responsibilities and log in to Wikipedia on a regular basis.
 * I though my ban on topic ARBAA2 was also one year long. I made this clear in my comments which I did not get a response to.
 * You have no business interfering in matters concerning, as he claims to be an adult (since he blames me for making childish comments - which I do not agree with) and can handle his own issues. Wait, he did not handle the issue and complained directly to you. Correct?
 * You can be a little more patient and control your anger if you want to be a judge on Wikipedia. Thank God you are not a judge in real life. Otherwise, you would be oppressing many innocent people.
 * Your block is unnecessary since I did not repeat "banter" with Kansas Bear, who by the way deserves an admonishment as well. -Yozer1 (talk) 05:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. My "back and forth banter" with Kansas Bear was not on the quality or need for a citation on an Armenian topic either. Shows how well you follow, or do not follow, my edits. Again, you know what you are doing. You are just biased. -Yozer1 (talk) 06:14, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

How to appeal your AE block
Hello Yozer1. Per your comments above, you desire to appeal the one-year block which I imposed to enforce your existing indefinite topic ban from WP:ARBAA2. Use the Arbitration enforcement appeal template below. Please fill in the fields with the details of your appeal, and I (or another admin) will then copy it over for you to WP:AE. EdJohnston (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Turkish American Community Center


A tag has been placed on Turkish American Community Center requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Jerod Lycett (talk) 16:24, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Appeal
Yozer1: I moved this appeal to Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. If you want to make any further statements, add them below and I or some other admin will move them across to the noticeboard. Use the adminhelp template if you don't get an immediate answer. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 04:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind action. Please accept my apologies as I was having a bad day and one thing lead to another. Let me know if I can be of any assistance in the future. Best regards, -Yozer1 (talk) 05:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not what it used to be, partly due to some fools
To the Wicked and Biased Editors and Administrators:

Here is an article from The Guardian that describes you: And I quote: "Wikipedia editing requires even greater motivation. The people who gain most are almost always the charlatans and liars."

Well said and good riddance!

-Yozer1 (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2015 (UTC)