User talk:Yulia Romero/Archive 6

Happy New Year
Happy New Year! USchick (talk) 17:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy new year. I hope that we can all get through 2011 without falling from the path.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:09, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * All the best in 2011! :) --Microcell (talk) 20:34, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Grand thanks for the picture. Merry Christmas holidays to you as well! Христос ся рождаєть! Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Merry Christmas to you also! Närking (talk) 09:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, happy new year and merry Christmas to you too!  A.h. king  • Talk to me!  09:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Mila Kunis
Boy, your holiday greetings and pretty picture has launched a typical Wikipedia storm. Just goes to show you that no good deed goes unpunished. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I just saw :); thanks for the info since I'm not that regular on wikipedia then in recent history. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  20:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Three Magi
Thanks a lot for the nice picture and greetings. Happy New Year, Merry Christmas, and the bright season of Epiphany (Theophany) - the Three Kings' Day (Three Wise Men or Three Magi) to you!

-- Mibelz 22:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Freedom of the press per country
Category:Freedom of the press per country, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for the Award. It is my first ever! Will keep contributing! :) Invest in knowledge (talk) 12:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

ru\uk
Why did you use template, while Russian and Ukrainian names are different (but similar) ? --Movses (talk) 20:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ukr Тетяна ≠ rus Татьяна (diff)
 * ukr Скалдіна ≠ rus Скалдина (diff)
 * Stupid; I simply forgot...[[File:Animalien-smiley.gif]] I apologise. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  21:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Vles1
RUS: Пишу по-украински и по-русски — в Википедии-RUS, Википедии-UKR. Специализируюсь на мифологии и истории.

Если Вы курируете направление "Википедия-Украина", то помогите (направьте волонтеров для перевода) статей :

1) В Википедии-Рус статья "Тимошенко Юлия" — информацию из неё (о Оранжевой революции; о Премьер-министре 2005; о событиях 2010 года — отмене "Конституции Украины" и "избиении депутатов Верховной Рады 16.12.2010") — очень нужно добавить в "Википедию-Eng".

2) В "Википедии-УКР" статьи по истории-мифологии Украины :

— "Матір Слава" (песня из этой статьи — «Вольная птица»);

— "Блез";

— "Мерлин" (раздел о "Готско-сарматской гипотезе происхождения "легенде о короле Артуре"");

— "Влес (из Влес-Книги)".--Vles1 (talk) 23:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As you probabley founded out by now I have to pass on this invitation... —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  22:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Women's rights in Ukraine
Hi there! I made some small changes to the page about women's wrights and I will like to include some photos and photo montages. Do you have idea for any free photos that might be placed on the page? I would assist you in making those photos if you have time ... http://www.istpravda.com.ua/articles/2010/12/29/11244/ ... Here on this page, there are interesting pictures (Milena Rudnycka), but I am not sure which would licenses suit them. I would also put only free pictures from: Inna Bohoslovska, Hanna Herman, Iryna Akimova, Irina Vannikova and other interesting women politicians ... Please help me with Wikipedia uploading of those photos if you can, thanks! --SeikoEn (talk) 07:40, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * (RUS) Перечисленные вами женщины-политики (Inna Bohoslovska, Hanna Herman, Iryna Akimova, Irina Vannikova) являются "ярыми сторонниками Януковича" и занимаются не расширением "прав женщин Украины", а уничтожают "демократические свободы Украины". Наверно вы знаете, что в Украине с 30.9.2010 — Янукович незаконно (решением Конституционного Суда, что не предусмотрено в Конституции) отменил "действующую Конституцию Украины-2004" и вернул действие Конституции-1996, которая передаёт ему всю власть в Украине. По-сути это анти-Конституционный переворот в Украине.--Vles1 (talk) 11:04, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I think you (SeikoEn) can also benefit from my explanation about wikimedia commons under this thread. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  22:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo Licenses

 * (Russian :) Mariah-Yulia, у меня в статье "Тимошенко" удаляют фотографии; хотя они взяты с сайта Тимошенко (разрешено копирование, использование - при условии ссылки на сайт). Можете помочь : изменить лицензии, и т. п., чтобы фотографии не удалили?--Vles1 (talk) 11:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * (English machine translation:) Mariah-Yulia, exposed "to delete" (does not have sufficient information on its copyright status) my photos in the article "Tymoshenko", although photos taken from "the site of Timoshenko" (allowed to copy, use - with reference to the site). Please help me : to change the license, etc.--Vles1 (talk) 11:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello!

Yes I do know how stop the deletion of these file. We need to get permission from "Батьківщина" to tell wikimedia commons that the pictures on the Батьківщина website are licenced under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported Licence (In short: you are free to distribute and modify the file as long as you attribute http://www.byut.com.ua/). How to do this is explained on Wikimedia Commons here in English and here in Russian.

(As far as I can tell) we need to get "Батьківщина" to send a letter witch looks a lot like letter A (see picture below) and letter B (see picture, in this case "Батьківщина" is more likely to write back in Ukrainian I suppose).

I have known this for a while but never got round to do it because of my poor grasp of Ukrainian (as you probably noticed by now and my Russian is even worse) I did not know if I could get to the right people in the parties organization, in fact I see only phone numbers on there website I don't know if Мартиненко Лілія Вікторівна in Kyiv speaks English but for me it would take ages to explain what I wanted from her... I don't know if you have any contacts within the party, if so it would be handy in this case. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  22:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If I can help with with photo editing, I will do it without a problem, but my Ukrainian and Russian are only for basic communication. These permits were always a problem ... If you manage to upload the new photos I will be glad to be involved in creating new more visual sites, especially when it comes to women: in politics, sport, education or any other field. Mary-Yuly you saw my job and you know what I'm talking about. Best regrads! :-) --SeikoEn (talk) 09:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Mariah-Yulia, thank you!


 * 1) Look (english language — "Official website of Yulia Tymoshenko", http://www.tymoshenko.ua/en/) :


 * License : "Copying or reproducing information on this website is allowed if link to Tymoshenko.UA is provided" — this license is similar to "ShareAlike CC BY-SA 3.0"?


 * http://www.tymoshenko.ua/en/article/x845nunm
 * 2) I've found. To obtain a permissions — should be treated :


 * http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:OTRS


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Volunteer_response_team

--Vles1 (talk) 21:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:OTRS

Yeah I think so on both... but I'm not an expert on "copyrights and wikipedia", I think Zscout370 would be more able to tell if Tymoshenko.UA needs to do more to get there stuff accepted on wikipedia then just write the line "Copying or reproducing information on this website is allowed if link to Tymoshenko.UA is provided" on there website. I am also not sure that they mean that photo's from there website are also allowed to be reproduced... —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  23:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Mariah-Yulia, thank!


 * For SeikoEn. For "articles about Ukrainian women" — can be translated articles from http://uk.wikipedia.org — about singer's : ukr. "Леся Горова"; ukr. "Білозір Оксана" (deputy of Ukrainian parliament) :
 * Lesia Gorova site : http://www.horova.kiev.ua/index.htm; E-mail: horova@i.com.ua;
 * Bilozir Oxana site : http://bilozir.com/
 * http://www.horova.kiev.ua/song/patriot_eng.mp3 — "Patriot", english language.
 * http://www.horova.kiev.ua/song/patriot.mp3 — "Patriot", ukrainian language.
 * http://www.horova.kiev.ua/song/blyz%27ko.mp3 — " Near ".
 * http://www.horova.kiev.ua/song/prograly_Ukrainu.mp3 — Lost the Ukraine, 2009.


 * Also interesting singer - winner of competitions in Russia and Ukraine, the most interesting young singers "Renata Dovhalis" (ukr. "Рената Довгаліс"; rus. "Рената Довгаліс") :
 * http://emusic.md/?string=%D0%E5%ED%E0%F2%E0+%C4%EE%E2%E3%E0%EB%B3%F1&vsearch-action=%CC%F3%E7%FB%EA%E0&search-action=
 * http://fs61.www.ex.ua/get/4213774aa76acef5b4f976ee8efa145a/2980251/%D0%A0.%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%96%D1%81%20%D0%86%20%D1%82%D1%96%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%20%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%8F%20%D0%BF%D1%96%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8F%20%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%27%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B0.mp3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vles1 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

"Parodies against Yanukovych" in Ukraine
1) 17.05.2010 Yanukovych (and President-Russia Medvedev in Kiev) — fell "memorial's wreath".
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPoYDfImnQU — wreath
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acB47rGiVMU&NR=1&feature=fvwp — wreath-2

2) In December-2010 "Russian television" showed film "Yanukovych Almighty" (a parody like "Bruce Almighty").
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wToY1ZgXRCs&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-1r-9-HM — "Yanukovych Almighty".

3) "A gangster parody song" (December 2010) : "Rejoice, celebrate, Vitko Yanukovych seized power". --Vles1 (talk) 19:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * http://mir.go2load.com/www.Go2Load.com/music/mp3/TIK_-_Vesela_pIsnya.mp3
 * http://fs73.www.ex.ua/get/0931a1e830e92e94a3eba513b9ec7425/3535534/%D0%A2%D0%86%D0%9A%20-%20%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B0%20%D0%BF%D1%96%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8F.mp3
 * http://www.ex.ua/view/1968770
 * http://yes.cn.ua/video/9538-bude-shhastya-gulyaj-veselis-sogodni-vitka-pri-vlasti.html

FT
There is an interesting letter by Lebedev in the Financial Times today (Friday 21st).--Toddy1 (talk) 17:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Tiakhnybok
Please see my comment: .Faustian (talk) 22:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


 * About Tiagnybok.
 * (machine translation:) During the "presidential elections-2010" — the "main slogan of Tyahnybok" was : "Against All" and "Tymoshenko = Yanukovych" (Tyagnibok participated in the campaign against Tymoshenko). During "the voting day" — Tyagnibok said : "stay at home, not go for elections"!!! **Owing to the campaign "Against all" (led by Yanukovych, together with Yushchenko, Tiahnybok, Gritsenko, Yatsenyuk, Tyhipko) — Yanukovych took office of the President.
 * Tyagnibok, Yatsenyuk, Yushchenko are "helpers of Yanukovych"; they are patriots "only paying lip". The only "truly anti-Yanukovskoyu force" is Yulia Tymoshenko. Tyahnybok, Yatseniuk, Yushchenko (since the presidential elections-2010) are named the "Against all's".
 * (Ukraine : ) На виборах президента-2010 — "головний лозунг Тягнибока" (з яким він об'їхав усю Україну) був "Проти всіх", "Тимошенко та Янукович однакові" (це була "велика кампанія проти Юлії Тимошенко"). Й перед днем голосування — Тягнибок закликав "сидіти вдома, не йти на вибори — бо Янукович такий же як Тимошенко". ** Саме завдяки кампанії "Проти всіх" (яку проводив Янукович разом з Ющенко, Тягнибоком, Гриценком, Яценюком, Тигіпко) — прийшов до влади Янукович. Тому — Тягнибок та Ющенко є рівній мірі "зрадники України", а патріоти вони "лише на словах". Єдиною "дійсно анти-Януковською силою" є Юлія Тимошенко. Тягнибока, Яценюка, Ющенка (починаючи з виборів президента 2010 року) називають "Проти всіхи". --Vles1 (talk) 19:20, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Where did you get that information about Tyahnybok's slogan? I never saw one like that. As far as I know everyone tries to discredit that guy. Ones say he's a Nazi, others - pro-Yanukovych. As far as I follow with Tyahnybok's blog, Svoboda's website, and his interviews on the Ukrainian TV, he never talked about to vote against all, or Tymoshenko, or whatever nonsense you are talking about. That just does not make any sense. I remember how in 1990s everyone talked about Rukh and Vyacheslav Chornovil that they are Nazis as well who will kill all the Jews in Ukraine. A very similar trend I track today as well only after another guy. Why do not you give some confirmed sources for your claims before talking badly about other people.Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If you (Aleksandr Grigoryev) do not know the slogan "against all", then you do not know anything about the "presidential elections-2010 in Ukraine".--Vles1 (talk) 22:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that also in academic circles the notion that "Yanu and friends" are helping "Tyahny" and Svoboda]] to "destroy" "Tymo" and Batkivschyna, as can be seen here. You can read in the book Virtual Politics - Faking Democracy in the Post-Soviet World (by Andrew Wilson, Yale University Press, 2005, ISBN 0-300-09545-7 (round page 190 for instance)) that this is not unthinkable. The Liberal Democratic Party of Russia did also get help from Jeltsin's people in getting seats in the Duma in the 1990's. I'm not saying that this is done now, but Ukrainian politics are dirtier and more criminal then Swedish politics. Unfortunatly you have to keep that in mind.. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  22:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to discussion
Talk:Ukrainian_parliamentary_election,_2012 Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Note from Sundostund
Hi, Mariah-Yulia! I saw that you support Yulia Tymoshenko. I also support her, she's my favorite foreign politician. I like her in every sense. If you ever want to chat with me about her or anything else, left me a note on my talk page. Bye! --Sundostund (talk) 19:06, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've reverted Sundostund's unauthorized change of your userbox related to her. Toddst1 (talk) 02:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mariah-Yulia, I just changed her current picture to the one which is currently the main picture on article Yulia Tymoshenko. I just like it more. Look for yourself - this is my edit: . Of course, you are free to decide which picture will remain. Bye! --Sundostund (talk) 22:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Either way, you have to ask permission before you change others' user pages/subpages. Toddst1 (talk) 01:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Toddst1, I understood your point, so I created my own User:Sundostund/Userbox/Yulia Tymoshenko. It has picture which I like, and I can edit it the way I want, right? --Sundostund (talk) 12:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the way to do it.
 * Apologies for Mariah-Yulia for this having to take place on her talk page. Toddst1 (talk) 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Well did not much minded the change of picture or the discussion about it here... I just was busy with other stuff to answer any questions... Sundostund I tried to send you a e-mail through wikipedia. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  19:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mariah-Yulia, I received your e-mail. Thanks! --Sundostund (talk) 21:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mariah-Yulia, did you received e-mail I send you yesterday? --Sundostund (talk) 14:03, 8 February 2011

Yes I did sorry; for the wait I got distracted... —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  18:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

The Ukraine
Once again, the preference of politicians and civil servants take precedence over everything on Wikipedia. See.

The people who run the BBC, Chicken Noodle News, and The Times would not know whether the first letter of Dnepropetrovsk was 'A' or 'D' (and yes I have seen that mistake on both English and American websites). The people who send them feeds from Kiev just want to fit in with what the Kiev government wants, and probably 'speak' English as a fifth language (so how would they know what is right or wrong?).

Both variants "The Ukraine" and "Ukraine" are acceptable English. Maybe next year, the Kiev government will decide to drop the "Den" from Den Haag - will you be enforcing this on Dutch Wikipedia? I guess you will.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This has nothing to do with politics... I understand your frustrating with (Ukrainian) politicians but they don't decide what are the names which are most frequently used to refer to a subject in English-language reliable sources. Since almost 100% of all English-language reliable sources written since Ukrainian independence use "Ukraine" instead of "the Ukraine" I think using "the Ukraine" is unacceptable English... Publications like BBC world, CNN, The Times have phased out using "the Ukraine" so "Ukraine" has become British English (we are not in 1972 any-more things do change, maybe "the Ukraine" will make a comeback). Weather they know what there talking about (I have great doubts about that too) is a different subject but has nothing to do with naming policies (if BBC world, CNN, The Times are not considered reliable sources on wikipedia we might as well quit with it altogether...)


 * In my private live I refer to Kyiv as Kyiv, but in wikipedia I do use Kiev so I do not understand why I'm being singled out here... I am not trying to change anything in Ukraine in a direction Oleh Tyahnybok wants to... (you probably call him Oleg Tiahnibok 718smiley.png) nor do I edit wikipedia with a Svobado POV. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  19:25, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You are not being singled out.


 * You made a comment in an edit summary at 16:25. Therefore I made a reply on your talk page. This seemed a better option than edit-warring.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Toddy1, I will back Mariah-Yulia here. While "the" still occurs in English before "Ukraine", news media, academic and geographical sources have phased it out.  Unlike "Kiev", which is still the predominate usage, "the Ukraine" is notably on the decline.  Even in Wikipedia, selecting to keep one instance of "the Ukraine" where the majority of other usages have been changed to simply "Ukraine" seems rather pointless.  --Taivo (talk) 20:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

By the way I have 'copied' some of your user-boxes. I think my copies need more work both on the wording and the colours/fonts.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the "singled out" comments, I interpreted that wrong. For advice on infoboxes you can always e-mail Svobada at vo@svoboda.org.ua, just say you are from Dnipropetrovsk, and don't use Dnepropetrovsk they don't like that... I am a big fan of Monty Python's Flying Circus so this remark was placed here to entertain you. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  21:31, 6 February 2011
 * You have contact with those people? BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg..BadSmiley.svg --Toddy1 (talk) 10:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

No, but I do hang out with Kostyantin Zhevago a lot; he has plenty of time cause he never goes to parliament... —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  18:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for comment
Mariah-Yulia - please can you make appropriate comments on Talk:Kiev.--Toddy1 (talk) 12:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I choose to keep out of "naming discussions" for the time being.. I'm a bit fed up that the explaining of WP:COMMONNAME and other wiki-guidlines is always done with a nationalistic POV in mind... —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  19:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)



Dmytro Firtash is now an editor on wikipedia!
Kha-kha. Dyakuyu for the announcement :) It does seem like that. Especially the Russian-style use of personal adjectives reveals that the editor seems to be from the Eastern Europe. In 2008, the University of Cambridge was founded by Ukrainian program (Cambridge Ukrainian Studies). Her goal - promoting the study of Ukraine to the UK and abroad. Plus it is written as a promotional announcement which contradicts the style of Wikipedia. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I just made a requests for page protection for this page. It seems I finally get a change to battle with Ukrainian oligarchs myself... IT'S ON! Hope I'm not the next Georgiy Gongadze... IP checker tells the editor is from Kyiv. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  16:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Mariah Carey WikiProject
Hello! A Mariah Carey WikiProject has been formed. If you'd like to join, please add your name here. Thank you. – Novice7 (talk) 06:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not want to be associated with Mariah Carey anymore after reading this unsincerely PR move to justify her singing for Libyan dictators. —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  22:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hence I changed my Wikipedia Username. —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  23:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Kolotnytska
You welcome. Gazeta.ua has a Russian mirror BTW, here is the link for that article. 95.132.181.207 (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. My Russian is much worse then my Ukrainian though... Emblem-cool.svg —  Mariah-Yulia  • Talk to me!  16:59, 1 March 2011