User talk:YumeChaser/Archive 1

October 2008
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Japanese titles
Hi, I've reverted your move on BUT/Aishō since the guidelines at WP:ALBUMCAPS refer to this document for non-English titles. For Japanese titles, it is recommended to preserve capitalization. + m t  19:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Concerning TVXQ
Why was the Japanese taken off and the same symbols from the Chinese used instead? I know they both mean the same but, come on! T.T

とうほうしんき is what I had before. Sorry I just didn't understand why you did that. T.T

~Garfield Turtle Anime~ (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Hajiru


 * Because 東方神起 is the official title they use in Japan, not とうほうしんき. Moon   ( Sunrise ) 01:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok. Thanks for the info. ^_^

~Garfield Turtle Anime~ (talk) 01:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Hajiru

I removed the part on the page about 'the incident with two chinese ladies' because it was a rumor and not an actual fact. =) KARIOSae (talk) 21:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

About your Sandbox
I think it's good that you condensed stuff, but I think you should provide links to the voice actors article! ムー・カオーズ・ルール 03:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule
 * I linked them. Thanks for pointing that out. ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 04:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Like the new signature! ムー・カオーズ・ルール 04:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule
 * There's some sort of glitch with your userbox box. The links don't work, then when you open the top part, you still see the gray part and "Show". わ  ら  う  05:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule
 * I'll have to fix 'em. I knew about the gray part and "Show" but I never knew the links never worked. Thanks and keep on Warau(ing). ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 05:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol I will. It might be my compy, it's a bit old... わ  ら  う  05:40, 17 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule

The bottom part works fine (the "Fun Facts" part), but the top one like goes through the bottom one sort of... a bit? ww わ  ら  う  05:42, 17 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule

List of InuYasha characters‎ refs
Thanks for starting to add refs to the character list. One minor note, though. With manga refs, we need to provide page numbers rather than just chapter numbers, preferably specific page numbers where the referenced events happened. do you have those handy to fill in? -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 15:32, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I would have to go and get them from my friend. ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 18:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

About Ayumi Hamasaki Discography
Yeah, as we all know Days and GREEN are one single, but it is much harder to record positions on Billboard Japan and Legal Downloads for individual tracks when they are listed like that. Also, we don't know if oricon will coun them as two seperate singles. if they do, it will become completely necessary for us to list them as two singles, but even know it is much more organized to list them as two 'tracks' and one 'single', if you catch my drift. i hope you understand what i'm trying to say & understand.

thank you. ^^

December 2008
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 16:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

BoA discography
Why have you delete all the singles and album sales? And I think its useless to add countries like IT, FRA, GER... to the chartbox, because her Japanese products will never chart there. --Shairon (talk) 12:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * All of these were unsourced and I followed the example of these articles, which are featured discographies, such as No Doubt and 50 Cent. If you look at most non-Asian artists discographies you'll see why I changed the chart. Furthermore I didn't delete any singles or albums all of them are still there- minus the sales figures since there is a source for how much she has sold. ( Moon )  and  ( Sunrise ) 12:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * But BoA is a Asian Singer so the discocraphy should be like Kumi Koda discography, Ayumi Hamasaki discography or Namie Amuro discography. The sales in these articles havent got a source too and the reason is here. You only can see the correct sales figures on oricon when you are japanese and have paid for it.--Shairon (talk) 12:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because she's an Asian singer doesn't mean it has to look like that. I know the sales in those articles don't have a source. I'm following the examples of featured discographies, all of which has a source. Also the reason Italy, France and Germany are in the box is because BoA is releasing an all English album which will be released worldwide. ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 12:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Utada Hikaru also released an English album and singles, but she is still a Japanese artist. The new chartbox hasnt as many informations as the older chartbox. At the moment its more away from a featured discographie than before. And how will you get the sources without Oricon? The aim is to give users informations about BoA and not to have a formal chartbox without a piece of knowledge.--Shairon (talk) 13:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Why does it matter where they came from? The sale figures are still in the main articles which are linked, so if anyone wanted to see how much the songs or album has sold or whatever all they have to do is go to that article. The discography is meant to show how many singles the artist has released and what their rank is, that's the aim of the discography. The main article is to give user/vistors information on BoA. The article needs more work, you can't expect it to look like the others in a moment of days. It takes time. ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 13:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

List of Naruto: Shippūden episodes → List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes
Did you do a copy-and-paste move when you moved List of Naruto: Shippūden episodes to List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes, or an actual move? モー モー ?talk to moo 21:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Copy and paste, since List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes redirected to List of Naruto: Shippūden episodes. ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 21:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What about the talk page? And now we need an admin to merge the old page history into the new page history... モー モー ?talk to moo 21:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I moved the talk page and the archive. ( Moon ) and  ( Sunrise ) 21:20, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Can you?
--Efe (talk) 05:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Koda Kumi
Hi Moon-sunrise! I'd be glad to review the article. Please forgive me if I seem harsh or nitpicky at times, as Featured Article requirements are extremely high (see Ayumi Hamasaki's history, which went through three FACs before becoming an FA). But the article looks pretty good, and you seem to have a good grip on WP's policies, so I don't think there will be very many major issues. See you there! Ink Runner (talk) 19:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for noting me. You're not rushing; I (for some strange reason) just didn't have the GA review page on my watchlist so I didn't see the changes. I'll continue reviewing. 19:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Koda Kumi (Part 2)
Oh wow. Congratulations on all the hard work and the (almost) GA! I'm glad to see so many East Asian articles stepping it up, before it was just blocks of incoherent text: Jay Chou, BoA, Namie Amuro, and of course Ayu Hamasaki and now her!

Good luck with the Japanese, by the way. I know they use some Chinese characters. Pronounced differently, same meaning. ★ Dasani ★ 03:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Koda Kumi (part 3 :P)
In the GA review I mentioned that the article might benefit from mentioning the style of her songs, or the meanings behind the lyrics, etc. Here are some Oricon articles that you can use as sources. (All of them have to do with Koda.)

(See the GA review for further explanation)

Interviews Oricon interviews usually have stuff on the history of the song, the style, about the lyrics, etc.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/081008_03.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/070627_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/060524_05_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/070912_02.html

http://tv.oricon.co.jp/interview/081224_03.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/071107_03.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/music/60528/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/050622_04.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/061220_02.html

http://contents.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/060726_03_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/050907_01.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/080130_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/060308_02_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/070314_02_movie01.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/060726_03_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/061018_02.html

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/interview/080611_03.html

http://career.oricon.co.jp/news/42907/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/38364/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/music/2795/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/movie/50896/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/music/39825/

Rankings Oricon ranking and rankmusic pages usually have stuff like chart positions, sales, and records (like who's the highest-selling this or that).

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/4076/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/42903/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/8505/

http://contents.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/19351/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/51724/full/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/51589/full/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/23185/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/40468/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/58962/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/music/24578/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/entertainment/51558/full/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/entertainment/53676/full/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/music/51567/full/

http://contents.oricon.co.jp/news/music/54131/full/

http://contents.oricon.co.jp/news/music/39296/

http://contents.oricon.co.jp/news/music/54131/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/12280/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/entertainment/45499/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/22735/

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/special/051221_01.html

Beauty Oricon's beauty section has stuff like fashion polls, who won fashion awards, etc.

http://beauty.oricon.co.jp/news/57753/

http://beauty-cdn.oricon.co.jp/news/60149/

http://beauty-cdn.oricon.co.jp/news/39243/

http://beauty.oricon.co.jp/news/41537/

http://beauty.oricon.co.jp/news/41254/

http://beauty-cdn.oricon.co.jp/news/45268/

SHINee translation.
샤이니 데뷔 2개월만에 첫 예능 외출 `누나와 가상 데이트` = SHINee, 2 Months After Debut, First Entertainment Outing Imaginary Date with Older Sister/Woman. A better translation would be something to the effect of, "SHINee gets their first reality show 2 months after debuting". Hope that helps. SKS2K6 (talk) 03:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For anything up to...I think B class, anyone can label it as such. But for GA and FA classes, you have to go through a nomination process.  See Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment. SKS2K6 (talk) 05:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Nippop
I think it counts as a reliable source, since according to this, "self-published work is acceptable to use in some circumstances, with limitations. For example, material may sometimes be cited which is self-published by an established expert on the topic of the article, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications", and the author, Steve McClure, is a writer for the Japan Times. Ink Runner (talk) 06:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Awards vs. #1s.
What I consider to be notable (for inclusion in an award section) is any "legit" award, like a sales award (including Cyworld's song of the month) or a daesang or bonsang or something. The thing with tv chart #1s is that it's basically inconsistent and based on data like viewer votes, so it's not necessary a notable award for an artist. I do believe, though, that's it's worth mentioning in a song article. Like, "Gee" notes that it went on #1 on Music Bank already. But it doesn't necessarily belong on the artist page (the Girls' Generation page does mention that the song went #1 on various digital charts). I hope that distinction makes sense. SKS2K6 (talk) 05:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Koda Kumi pt IV
Kumi Koda has passed GA. Congratulations, but the journey to FAC has only begun; the rest of the way will be anything but a cakewalk. Ganbatte! Ink Runner (talk) 19:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Naming.
See Naming conventions (Korean). The main problem with that, though, is that it assumes that there is no official English version. In any case where there is a dominant, common, or "official" Romanized version, that should be used. For example, Eugene from S.E.S. should technically be "Yoo-jin" but she goes by "Eugene" so that's what her Wikipedia page is under (Eugene (entertainer)). Another problem is that there could be conflicting or alternate "official" versions, which is what happened for the Wonder Girls.

So, for Shinee, if Taemin is always Taemin and not Temin or Tae Min or Tae-min, then use "Taemin". But if it's inconsistent...well, that's when it goes to a judgment call. You might want to discuss it on the talk page. SKS2K6 (talk) 21:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Shinee looks a LOT better. SKS2K6 (talk) 21:12, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

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TVXQ
Sorry...but these are saying that I wouldn't understand. :T The 4-character sayings are ones that I really don't know. As for the first one, the first translation is literally correct, but I don't know the meaning behind it. :T Sorry again! SKS2K6 (talk) 05:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)