User talk:YummyDonutsmmm

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2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks
I added references to the article you created.--71.80.51.24 (talk) 00:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I am following along with your edits.--71.80.51.24 (talk) 22:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, thankyou, but I am in the middle of something. Just try not to conflict. I think you are someone I know.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks


The article 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No reason to think that this is an event with long-term notability.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 05:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It was redirected. It should not be deleted. I will explain later like you said.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

reliable sources, BURDEN, etc.
Please do not re-add information that is speculative or unsupported. Specifically, the "arab spring" and "rioting". tedder (talk) 23:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, it was just redirected though so I am going to fix it back and remove those things you mentioned.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 23:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, it was redirected as I was typing this. Please don't undo the redirect, the other article is written significantly better. Discuss the proper title on the talk page. tedder (talk) 23:50, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, but it might just be better because I was not quite done. Just give me 10 more minutes.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Improve the other article instead. Leave "yours" as a redirect. tedder (talk) 23:53, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ugh, alright, I probably will.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 23:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * And… less than five minutes later, . Really, why does WP need two articles on the same topic? Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 00:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the "yummydonuts" version is poorly written and now contains a pasted copy of the other article. Really, this isn't how it's done. tedder (talk) 00:18, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * And now he's turned the less-sucky article into a redirect to his speculative and unsourced article. sigh Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:08, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Exept that all the speculative stuff is gone other than possibly 1 or 2 headings like what would happen with the articles on the 2011 Egyptian Revolution or 2011 England riots.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 01:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Speculative and unsourced:
 * "the increase in the number of fires each day may indicate copycat incidents." "It is the worst case of arson reported in the area since the 1992 Los Angeles riots." "Some have been arrested on suspision [sic], yet they continue and the attackers have not been caught." "that as a group are ongoing."
 * None of those are headings, and none of those are referenced. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The first is speculative I guess, but well believed, the next two are not cited there but are in the references, and the last is very well know, but not too obvious to be in the article.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 01:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * And now you're claiming there have been —and still no references. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. tedder (talk) 00:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012
Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:06, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks, you may be blocked from editing. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks
Based on its current state, it's pretty clear that 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks needs some serious work. I've started a discussion about how to go forward at Talk:2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks, and you're invited to participate. Thanks in advance, Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 05:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Cut & paste move
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give 2011 Los Angeles arson spree a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. --64.85.214.156 (talk) 14:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

WP:3RR
There is a rule on WP called the three revert rule, it says that an editor is only allowed to make 3 reverting edits to any page in any 24 hour period (the link gives more details on what a revert is and the like). You have made more than that now to 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks, so you should wait until 19:12, 5 January 2012 (UTC) before making any more edits to the article that are a revert of another editor. Mt king  (edits)  23:29, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Please revert your last edit as you have again overstepped the WP:3RR rule. Mt  king  (edits)  21:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Should I just delete the section?--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:39, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes you should revert back to this version. Mt  king  (edits)  21:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I greatly narrowed the section. I am just having trouble with the section not being there. It sure seems relevant. Go check it out.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * and make it clear in the edit sum you are "Self Reverting due to WP:3RR". Mt  king  (edits)  21:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I greatly narrowed the section. I am just having trouble with the section not being there. It sure seems relevant. Go check it out.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I will not re-add the section again until at least tomorrow or when you want me too.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:48, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Please remove the WHOLE section, and then start a talk page discussion, you should also wait longer then 24hs + 2 mins like you did last time as that looks like gaming the system, Mt  king  (edits)  21:51, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought if I wait long enough people would be more okay with me adding it.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:54, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What is that 'out' thing for? Does it automatically form with very long dicussion threads?--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:55, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have to go. If you could do me a favor and make whatever edits you want me to make for that would be great. Thanks and bye!--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 21:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thankyou, I will probably give you a barnstar too when I get to it.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 18:57, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, I voted keep on the deletion page. Cheers, Magister Scienta talk 00:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Mt king  (edits)  02:40, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Belated welcome
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Sockpuppetry case
Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/YummyDonutsmmm for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. <span style='font:1.0em "Apple Garamond","Adobe Garamond Pro",Garamond,serif;color:#369;'>Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 02:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I used to be a major sockpuppeteer, but since before I created that article all I have used is this account and my IP address. I have also created another account, but have not used it; I have it just in case, but I do not know what that case would be. I hope that my history of being a vandal as a sockpuppeteer does not make me a vandal or sockpuppeteer now, I want to turn into a good Wikipedian.--YummyDonutsmmm (talk) 23:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I appreciate that you want to change your approach to Wikipedia editing, but simply creating two further accounts and thus evading your block is not the way to do that. I will refer you to WP:Guide to appealing blocks and WP:STANDARD OFFER for now, but if you are serious about this and have read those guidelines, feel free to ask any questions you have here. Amalthea  15:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Page moves
Hi. Thank you for your contributions. Please do not  make page moves such  as you  did at First Flight High School  until you  have read and fully  understood ‎ both Article titles,  and Moving a page. After that, the best advice is: if you  are not  sure, don't  do  it. If you need help  with anything, don't  hesitate to ask me on  my  talk  page. Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:36, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  00:02, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/2011–12 Los Angeles arson attacks & until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. <span style="text-shadow:gold 0em 0em 0.4em,lightgreen -0.4em -0.4em 0.4em,gold 0.4em 0.4em 0.4em;"> ✍   Mtking  ✉ 08:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)