User talk:Yunshui/Archive 35

Deepak Kalpoe
I was in the process of writing a comment at Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 May 12 when you deleted the article. I reproduce below the comment I was writing, and I wonder if you will be willing to reverse your closure of the discussion, as the result is far from clear and uncontroversial. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * My comment written for the RfD discussion:
 * Keep. I am bewildered by the arguments advanced for deletion. The article Disappearance of Natalee Holloway contains several mentions of Deepak Kalpoe, so anyone searching for information about him will stand a chance of finding what they are looking for via the redirect. That is what a redirect does. That is all that the redirect does. The existence of the redirect merely says "information about the subject that you typed is is available on this article": it does not say anything else at all, and it absolutely certainly does not make any allegation or accusation about him. In fact, if anything, the contrary is so: by far the most likely reason why anyone might search for "Deepak Kalpoe" is that they have heard or read somewhere that he was a suspect in this case, in which case the redirect will take them to an article which tells them that a court ruled that there was no evidence against him, and which explicitly refers to an investigation of a sample from his car as a "false lead". Thus the redirect might well result in removing a reader's suspicions against Deepak Kalpoe; I cannot begin to see how it could possibly create or confirm such suspicions.


 * Having said all that, I take a very different view of earlier versions of the page Deepak Kalpoe, which was a negative unsourced BLP, and I shall delete the earlier versions. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course; I'll take care of it now. Yunshui 雲 水 11:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've left the pre-redirect revisions deleted, however. Yunshui 雲 水 11:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Deepak Sitush and his brother
Don't do that whyile it is at RfD. THat is "Redirets for discussion". So discuss it there, ter is a discussion inprogress there. It is typical now to do whatever one thinks and I uppose one wou claim BRD but since the discssion is open, contrbute to the discussion rather than just being Adolf Hitler. 14:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry? My closure and deletion was a direct response to your request for speedy deletion. Want to perhaps rethink comparing a volunteer administrator on an online encyclopedia doing what you specifically asked him to do with a genocidal dictator? Yunshui 雲 水 14:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Unionfs
Fine with me  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  16:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Deleting a redirect
Dear Yunshui: If this cross-space redirect has only one incoming link from the Cut-and-paste holding pen archive, is it needed? I'm thinking not, but I wanted to check. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 18:14, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Anne. Not sure which redirect you mean (links please!) but assuming it's a standard mainspace page redirecting to user, talk or another inappropriate namespace then I can't see there'd be a problem - just remember to clear the backlink. Yunshui 雲 水 07:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, rookie mistake. Here's the link: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/DragonWave. Of course, now it will link to this page, too.  What do you mean by "clear the backlink"?  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 11:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Backlink = page that links to the page you're on (so everything in What links here?, basically). If you use Twinkle, there's a useful pre-deletion function called Unlink in the menu, which will automatically remove the links on any pages that direct to the page you're nuking. Incidentally, an AFC redirect isn't a valid target for speedy deletion under R2; that criterion only applies to redirects from mainspace (so if the article DragonWave was a redirect to the AFC page it could be deleted, but not the other way around). Yunshui 雲 水 14:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Yunshui. Two things:
 * I've nominated hundreds of pages for deletion in the past, and links to them show up on various talk pages in other places. I can't remember ever seeing one that wasn't a redlink after the deletion.  Knowing that a page which is being discussed has been deleted is often useful to the discussion. This can't be a very widely used feature. Maybe it's intended mainly for redlinks in articles?


 * I was considering deleting the page under G6, rather than R2, as cleanup. The page was historymerged with, and redirected to, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/DragonWave, Inc., which then became an article, so that title is also a redirect. The link back to the page creator is from this second redirect, so that's covered, and the cut and paste archive already has another link that's a redirect to the same article.  The first redirect looked useless to me, but I wasn't sure if there was another reason for keeping it that I hadn't thought of, which is why I asked you. Sorry I didn't explain more fully right away. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I think Unlink is indeed intended to deal with article redlinks - personally I rarely use it, so I'm not too familiar with how it runs. Hadn't realised you were intending to use G6 - in that case, I can't really see any reason to object (nor - more importantly - any reason for anyone else to object); it's not as though the redirect is doing anything useful. Yunshui 雲 水 07:21, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for adoption
Hi Yunshui, I am a bit old user here (more than 6 months experience), but to understand the rules and guidelines properly I am requesting you to adopt me.--Skr15081997 (talk) 09:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know that you need it, to be honest - you're pretty competent already. Are there any particular areas where you feel you need to improve your wiki-skills? Maybe we could operate a slightly less "official" adoption focusing on one or two specific bits of Wikipedia - you're certainly not going to learn anything new by jumping through the hoops of an adoption school. Yunshui 雲 水 09:42, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The WP:MOS appears a bit difficult for me to follow. Part of the problem arises from the fact that I am still learning English(I don't mean a, b, c etc.) and frankly speaking I feel a bit inferior here when someone needs to copyedit the articles which I had created, especially Manta, Manta and Gustav Scholz which I had nominated for DYK. I think my vocabulary is not as large as compared to other regular contributors. I am just a teenager right now and still learning. I felt a bit confident when I started leaving a space after full stops and comma. I want to learn a more about the Manual of style because I want to create and expand good articles, featured articles and lists. I hope you are able to understand my problem.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Trust me, your English is a damn sight better than my Hindi... Okay; in that case I suggest what we do is take an article that's currently in a bit of a state - there's plenty of them out there - and work through the appropriate MOS requirements to bring it up to speed. Do you have any you'd like to suggest? Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I can speak ,write and think in Hindi better than my schoolmates. Even, they know have the similar knowledge and understanding of English like me, but I am zero when it comes to typing in Hindi. SuggestBot gives me suggestions about articles that need cleanup. I think any one of those articles would be good to start with. I would make the article encyclopedic in tone, neutral and try to make sure it follows Manual of style. You can check the article after I have finished and give your suggestions for improvement.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan. Let me know when you've picked something and we can take a look. Who knows, maybe you'll end up creating a GA by accident while you're at it? Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Today in the morning I was searching through the List of American films of 1914 and I saw a redlink The Wrath of the Gods (1914 film). I have made a lot of edits to the article and I would be glad if you make suggestions for improvement. I have really worked a lot on this film's article but never seen the film. I have even nominated it for a DYK.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:57, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try and take a look at it some time this morning. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, here's a point by point review: Most of this is nit-picking - overall the grammar, spelling and style is exceeding good (you've even used semi-colons correctly in a couple of places; most native speakers can't do that!). Nice work, and pretty much compliant with MOS:FILM, too. I'm most impressed. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 10:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * In the third sentence, replacing "The film was released" with "It was released" would avoid the repetition of the phrase, "The film", which is a little grating.
 * "Buddhists" should be capitalised.
 * "Tom Wilson(Frank Borzage)": missing space.
 * In the sentence, "The locals, who have been stirred up..." the phrase "the family" has been used twice - the repetition reads a bit awkwardly.
 * Consider wikilinking "Sakura-Jima" and/or "Kagoshima".
 * "...and decided when possible to use Japanese..." should read "...and decided where possible to use Japanese..."
 * "Approximately 1,000, mostly Japanese, extras were used" should read "Approximately 1,000 extras, mostly Japanese, were used".
 * "January 1914,just": missing space.
 * "...audiences as an heroine..." should read "...audiences as a heroine..." (or ,better in this context: "...audiences as the heroine...").
 * Punctuation: "...films release.[6] on May 1, 1914" should read "...film's release[6] on May 1, 1914" (apostrophe, removed full stop).
 * "large scale" → "large-scale"
 * Thanks for the review, Yunshui. It's quite pleasing to see an article with so much context and sources. I have even added 2 images to it from Commons. Can I use one of these images for DYK, both of them are in public domain(pre-1923) in USA.--Skr15081997 (talk) 10:40, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes; if they're PD there should be no problem using them at DYK. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:30, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Hajimemashite and sorry
Hajimemashite,

I am not sure what I did to offend you but I genuinely say sorry for it. I am not out to offend other people and WP:AGF edit in good faith. If I made a mistake – and I very often – I am sorry. And even if I didn't, I am not here to offend other editors.

I learned a little Japanese some twenty years ago but have forgotten most of it.

Thank you for all your hard work. I did not mean to offend you and apologise sincerely if I accidentally did. Somet imes in black and white things sound a lot harsher than they would face to face. i didn't mean to, and I sincerely apologise: I don't go attacking other editors but sometimes remarks sound very harsh.

Again, my sincere apologies.

S. Si Trew (talk) 13:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Apology accepted; let's say no more about it. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:38, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Apol
thank you for accepting my apology. I don't know what it was I said, you didn't quote it, and sometimes I quote very hard, but those are quotes not me. Sincere thanks for accepting my apology. My family also we have a German history, we can't find the history beyond two generations because all of the records have been destroyed. Not saying the Germans or Japanese or English or anyone is bad: people are people, individuals. Thank God that is all behind us now.

Thank you so much for accepting my apology. It means a lot to me, sincerely. Si Trew (talk) 13:50, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * See three threads up this page. But yes, I'm grateful for the apology and quite happy to say no more about it; let's just get on with editing. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:56, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Personal "Thanks!" for your response to "Help me..."
Thank you, Yunshui, for your help with expanding the /w/ in the locked URL link to the completed Biblical literalist chronology Representative basic version to make it accessible from the Article Talk page. It works! I have already noted my thanks to you on my Talk page, but I especially wanted to come here and thank you personally on your own talk page. I wish you well! Semper Fi! --Encyclopedic researcher (talk) 04:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 08:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for this edit. I keep making that mistake. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk)
 * Easily done (I've been known to make the same mistake myself...). Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 10:41, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Craig
WP:EW clearly explains that "Reverting to enforce certain overriding policies is not considered edit warring. For example, under the policy on biographies of living persons, where negative unsourced content is being introduced, the risk of harm is such that removal is required.". Please carefully re-read this standing Wikipedia guideline. Trisha Borsagi (talk) 12:06, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Reply cut and copied to your talkpage; let's try and keep this conversation in one place. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:15, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * I never suggested that you were. I removed the deletion template from the article - the source was enough to show that it wasn't vandalism - but since the page was little more than a dictionary definition, and there was no more really to be said about the topic, I redirected the page to Pyrroline (since we don't have an article exclusively on 1-pyrroline).
 * By the way, I have more facilty in English than Japanese, and it make life easier for other people reading this page if you write in English too. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:08, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Editing my Front-page
Hi, I would like to not edit my user-front-page. Anybody is welcome to constructively edit subpage though. User:ScotXW t@lk 20:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talkpage. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

User ScotXW and his "wall of shame"
Hello. Do you remember removing this? With messages on his talk page from you and Dennis Brown. Well, ScotXW just put the list back up again, with a defiant edit summary... Thomas.W talk 21:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * See above. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Adoption School Task
Hey Yunshui, I have completed the Markup task from Adoption school.So you can mark and close it.User:Gaurav2192GD 11:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Nicely done - full marks for that! Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of user talk page
I have already read your 'check this page first' and I am still bewildered as why you have deleted a user's talk page. User_talk:Drowninginlimbo. Usually, the only reason talk pages are deleted are in exceptional circumstances, so I'd like to ask what that circumstance was. Courtesy vanishing? Also curious is because the speedy deletion criteria you mentioned specifically prohibited user talk pages from the criteria. Was this just a misclick or an oversight? Tutelary (talk) 19:40, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither; there was a valid reason for removing the page but I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to share it. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 06:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm going to assume that the user wished to leave Wikipedia, and leave it as such. But if/when they do return, I'll request that you restore the talk page as the history is useful in determining what the user has gotten attention for on Wikipedia. But until then, I'll pester you no further. Tutelary (talk) 13:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

About how Your open for Trainees on WP:CVUA
I was Wondering If you could take me up as a Trainee on Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy. Seeing That i failed my Rollback Request (That funny enough You Reviewed) I looked for a Trainer On WP:CVUA to get myself at a starting point for doing Anti-Vandal Work. I got too Failed attempts at Asking because they were too busy in real life to and as i said, I was Wondering if you could take me in as a Trainee. Thanks! Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 05:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that would be a good idea - you're clearly enthusiastic about anti-vandalism and with a bit of help your enthusiasm should be easily channeled into some very productive editing. I've created a CVUA school for you; fel free to move it into your userspace if you want to. Complete the tasks there, let me know when you've done so, and we'll see how we go. I'll also keep an eye on your patrolling when I can, and steer you in the right direction if needs be. Welcome to the CVUA! Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:28, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 07:39, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Captain hair moustache
Hello,yunshui

captain hair moustache is in my invention.my name's fatih çokoy.such a thing is avaible.at least,you must use the file.if you'll dont take,you would delete it.--Ytipoli (talk) 14:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not for things you made up one day. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

there is a captain hair moustache's cartoon novel.That's important is made of its.what am I saying who's other...chinesee guy..--Ytipoli (talk) 14:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, after considering your statements for a bit - are you claiming that you are not the creator of the Captain Hair Moustache character, and that it is in fact a published comic book? If that is the case, we might be able to have an article on it - but you would need to provide some independent sources about the comic before it could be considered for inclusion. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

yunshui,hurry up.Let's make it.At once let's create the article then.--85.102.127.173 (talk) 14:47, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I assume this is Ytipoli logged out? If my assumption above is correct - and you haven't yet suggested that it is - then you are welcome to recreate the page. However, please ensure that it contains sufficient content and sources to:
 * identify the subject as a comic book
 * show that it meets the criteria for inclusion
 * If you repost the article in its previous form, it will simply be deleted again. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

YES,THAT'S WAS AN İNVENTED BY FATİH ÇOKOY.(A11: Obviously invented)--85.102.127.173 (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Earlier you claimed to be Fatih Çokoy. Am I then to assume that this comic is in fact something you created? Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

yes,also though I'm fatih çokoy,why not understood you and me.?you would be not read of my comic book?this is not an important.--85.102.127.173 (talk) 15:07, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * In Theory Then that means you have a COI (Conflict of interest) And Should NOT Be creating the page Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 00:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Are you chinesee or japanesee? I dont know but I dont understand at your english.please,no more take it.I dont understand that wikipedia.I'm bored.you create into wikpedia.goodluck.--85.102.127.173 (talk) 15:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Yunshui! :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by XBayshorexTmntxForeverx (talk • contribs) 20:00, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Vanessa Kerry
Hello Yunshui, According to Articles for deletion/Vanessa Kerry, it was previously decided that the article on Vanessa Kerry should be merged into John Kerry's; and hence this article has been nominated for deletion for a second time. As you are not involved in this article, your input and decision would be appreciated. AtheistIranian (talk) 09:06, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that; nothing helps my morning cuppa go down like having to close a heated, multi-page debate... I've closed the discussion as Keep. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 09:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

captain talk a ride
also very good,when I added it users has been deleted of it.yes,I agree.but I had released of comic book.this have only, I have wrote to internet as on JPG picture.But still you didnt put on the wikipedia page.I sorry that before. but I am a cartoonist.I am no notable.but I'm your take,I want again.if I angried you,it can not to be nice.FaTiH cokoy--85.102.127.173 (talk) 16:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

http://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaptan

enter on above the web site.You'll get it.the sources have on it.--85.102.127.173 (talk) 16:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the effort, but none of those websites comes even close to the English Wikipedia's standard for reliable sources; as far as I can tell, their all either websearches or compilers. I think you are going to have to accept that your comic does not meet Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines, and that we will not have an article on it here. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 19:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Captain hair moustache, continued
dear my friend yunshui,

give me a break,no more,I'm bored.--85.102.127.173 (talk) 13:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I assumed from your previous message that you were no longer interested in writing on Wikipedia. However, if you still want to create an article, here's the deal: present me with at least three sources concerning your comic book, and I'll consider restoring the page for you to work on. However, I've wasted more than enough time on you already; if you post here again without such sources, you will simply be ignored. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:17, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * In theory if he was the creator of the comic book (if it even Exists) then he would have a COI with it Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 21:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Image
Sir,Can you help delete this image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ArvindIyer.jpg It is no longer needed.Useless and Belongs to me.Many thanks the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvind_Iyer has been sorted but has a few warnings with grammar etc.only an admin can help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suntug11 (talk • contribs) 14:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't need an admin to help with grammar and content fixes; anyone can do that. You do need an admin to delete the image, but as it stands I can't see a legitimate reason for doing so: it could be shifted to Commons and deleted, of course, but right now I'm about to go offline for the weekend and don't have the time to do that. You might be better off asking for help elsewhere, I'm afraid. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

OK.Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suntug11 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Holding tickets
Hey there Yunshui. I'm just popping in here to give you a friendly reminder about the section of the guide on Reservations and note that you've had to have two of your reservations broken by a tool admin this week. I'm guessing that you just get distracted and loose track of it (as I've done that before as well), but when John (broke the most recent upon my request) and Mlperc (broke the other one and closed it) or any other tool admin has to go in and break the reservations, that can be a minor annoyance to them. All that I'm asking is that you "try" to be a little more mindful and remember to break reservations or leave a comment as to why you are holding them in the future. Thanks. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 15:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Crap - I can only apologise profoundly (to John and Mlpearc as well); I had no idea that I'd kept any reservations recently. I'll make a point of ensuring that I properly release tickets I don't intend to action in future. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 19:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I've no idea what you guys are talking about here; I'm guessing it was one of the other admins with "John" in their username. (Maybe we should have a dab page or a category?) If there is anything you would like me to comment on or any other help I can give, please just ping me again. I can't help weighing in though, T13, that I don't think most admins would experience minor annoyance for a minor thing like this appears to be. We are all volunteers doing it for fun, like yourself. --John (talk) 19:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * ,, and would seem the most likely candidates, though there may be others. HTH. --John (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Guess I owe you an apology anyway, then, for dragging you over here fruitlessly. T13's talking about WP:ACC - as the (I think) most recent addition to the team I'm still learning the ropes (just not as well as I thought, it would seem). I'm guessing User:John F. Lewis is the guy I should be crawling to, though - sorry JFL. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 19:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It is alright and it is me :p John F. Lewis (talk) 20:36, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No apologies necessary, Yunshui, it's nice to meet you, or to see you again. I wonder if the other four Johns would care to join me in a new cabal? We would be all-powerful. Naturally, I would be leader as it is my idea. What do you say? We could have a userbox. --John (talk) 20:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I might need to take a trip to WP:CHU... Here you go:

Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:39, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Gee, thanks! I was only joking but now you have done that I will have no option but to secretly start the cabal off. I'll begin by adding the userbox to my user page, as a sort of double bluff. --John (talk) 13:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem - enjoy your secretive John-related cabal dealings. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Cabal? What cabal? on an unrelated note, anyone named John should meet at the Denver Airport at 25:00 on May 32nd. -- John Reaves 14:07, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * 25 O'Clock ? I'll be there. --John (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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I am seeking input on your experience as a mentor to new Wikipedians. This survey is designed to provide insight for the development of a new mentorship support tool on Wikipedia. If you have a moment, please take this survey, it should not take more than 10 minutes of your time to complete.

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Also, if you are able to, I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the following survey to the mentee you worked with:

https://syracuseuniversity.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_4V1quUdMZ1By3Ah

Thank you in advance for your participation, Gabriel Mugar 13:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

TranquilityIsDivine
This is Dragonron, not CensoredScribe.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 14:15, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ryulong; I'll change the templates accordingly. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:16, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I see you beat me to it, much obliged. I've changed the reason in the block log as well. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * He seems to be editing from a range (the last two edits I've found are by IPs here) that was identified previously, but hasn't been reblocked.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 14:38, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

CVUA mentor
Hey! I have been here for almost a year now and with 3,000 mainspace edits. I would like to learn more about how to deal vandalisms in Wikipedia because I have installed Twinkle a couple of weeks ago. Can you be my mentor in CVUA? I specialize in sports-related articles, especially in professional wrestling. Thanks and happy editing! FairyTailRocks 14:11, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? I've created a CVUA page for you (you can move this into your userspace if you'd prefer); have a look through the tasks there and let me know how you get on. Sports and wrestling aren't really my thing, but those articles do get a lot of vandalism, so more competent anti-vandal patrollers in that area would definitely be a good thing. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:16, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you Yunshui! Is there a deadline for answering those questions? FairyTailRocks 05:48, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No deadlines here... Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 06:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Informal mentorship requested
Hello Yunshui! I saw you at the WP:Teahouse and your profile caught my eye because of your O Sensei quote. I have trained Ki Society Aikido for over a decade; it's quite a journey. I like your tone and approach in your responses. I've wanted some mentorship around editing a specific controversial page - it's an alternative medicine "fringe" modality which has attracted a number of editors who are very strict (which is appropriate) but who seem to be more interested in blocking anything that's not right rather than improving the quality of the page. The result is an article that reads poorly, with some factual errors and also some serious omissions. I have educated myself on WP:MEDRS and have concluded that the scientific studies that have been done are not valid for WP health claims because they were published in non-mainstream journals, so I'm not debating that aspect. Presently I've been focusing on locating more secondary sources, mostly books from mainstream publishers, because the article lacked good citations and relied too much on a primary website. I've been slowly adding some better-written content when I feel that I can strongly justify it with my sources - I accept that anything not supported will be reverted. The experienced editors on the page are not ideal collaborators for drafts, though I recognize that some consensus will have to be reached. That's why I'd like a mentor for discussing the issues and working up drafts, so when a change is presented it is already good enough that it doesn't ruffle any feathers. Would you be willing to help me with this? --Karinpower (talk) 03:55, 26 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Karinpower. Rolfing, eh? Not something I've much knowledge of, so I don't know how much use I would be, but I'd certainly be happy to look over any draft changes you have and give my opinion as a Wikipedian. I suggest you use your sandbox to prepare your proposed amendments - then just drop me a link here when you have something that needs looking at and I'll see what I can do. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Yunshui! It may be a couple weeks til I have time to put something together, but I'll let you know! In the meantime, would you be willing to take a few minutes to look at the short article Rolfing and the recent history? I think it will help give you a sense of the dynamic that's happening around this page. I've edited on a handful of other pages and this is the first time I've experienced having the feeling that editors were sometimes more interested in blocking improvements that fine-tuning them. Looking forward to having your neutral perspective; in a sense it's perfect that you aren't very familiar with the topic. --Karinpower (talk) 18:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

adoptee just saying hi
Hi Yunshui - just checking in and saying hi - hope all is well in your world :-) I think I've had my first 'wikibreak'. I didn't plan it! but life just got the better of me. Back though, I think!, and looking forward to puttering around and doing some stuff again. If it's still ok, I may hit you up with some questions as I go along again, so thanks in advance! Cheers, Depthdiver (talk) 20:29, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

And while the subject is open I should probably chip in myself. Nearly got an edit down at UAA two days ago but the guy got blocked for vandalism before I could save the report. I really need to get around to finishing the Reliable Sources, that said that's what's dragging me back, unfinished business, that said Wikipedia is always 'unfinished business' as it's never finished, maybe I need that in my motives. Ah Well, CestLaGaire as I say randomly. Hope it ain't too crazy in your area. MM (I did the who in the whatnow?)  (I did it!) 23:49, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello adoptees. Nice to hear from you both; you're always welcome to drop by this page. There's no deadline on the adoption school, so just get around to it when you can - real life and other wikibusiness always interferes with such things, but it's not as though I torture a kitten to death for every day you don't get it finished.
 * No, really, I don't. The rumours are just vicious lies... Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Just chiming in to say お疲れ様 <3 ♥ Solarra ♥  ♪ Talk ♪  ߷  ♀ Contribs ♀ 07:21, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
 * All in a day's work. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:22, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * :-) :-) Depthdiver (talk) 10:41, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi and a request
Hi Yunshui, I wanted you to see some work which I have done on this article. Please review it for Neutrality.--Skr15081997 (talk) 11:00, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see any glaring issues with it, certainly, although I'll confess I havn't given it a very thorough going over, just a quick read-through. I certainly wouldn't have any qualms about offering it up at WP:GAN in that state; you'll probably have to make some adjustments before it passes but it wouldn't be quick-failed that I can see. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 11:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick review, I admit some more work is needed on the article. I am glad to read that it won't be quick-failed in the present state but since it has now become so dear to me(more than 99% of the content was added by me) I won't nominate it in this state. There's a lot more that has to be added and that will definitely be done.--Skr15081997 (talk) 11:59, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

C i wood
I left a message on the user's talk page. If the user responds appropriately, then... well, okay, I guess you can unblock (with the conditions you previously suggested).

Feh. DS (talk) 14:09, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Embarrassingly I'd missed the image upload... let's see what he says; if it's reasonable then I'll let him loose and see what happens. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:12, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Another new user
Hi Yunshui, how are you? I trust all is well. Please help this new user. On a quick look, almost all of his/her contributions appears to be vandalism; see here. He recently have also created an article about himself which I tagged for CSD. So, I thought if you can help him. Thanks.  J i m Carter  ( talk ) 15:18, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Doesn't seem to be getting the message, does he... To be honest, I doubt there's anything I can say that's going to change his behaviour (apart from, perhaps, "You have been blocked from editing...") but I'll swing by his talkpage on Monday if he's still going by then. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 21:49, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: User:TheLittleDuke's NLT block
has now deleted the tweets and this comment on his talk page shows that he has rescinded his legal threat. Since you was the blocking admin, this block can now be lifted. —Farix (t &#124; c) 17:00, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The legal threat was part of the reason for blocking, and rescinding it certainly goes some way towards mitigating the necessity for a block. However, I personally am still not convinced that he has any intentions here beyond plugging his company, and I see no sign that he has understood why that isn't acceptable. I am therefore not going to lift the block - other admins who monitor Category:Requests for unblock will review it in their own time. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I've put in a request at WP:ANI for the block to be reviewed. TheLittleDuke has an outstanding unblock request that is two days old with no action take as of yet. —Farix (t &#124; c) 17:05, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm not totally convinced either, but the page in question is salted against recreation, so there's probably not too much further disruption that TheLittleDuke can cause; Yunshui, would you be okay if I unblocked on more-or-less the basis of "sure, why not" (with a long statement I'll write regarding notability as it pertains to Wikipedia, AfC, etc.) ? Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 17:41, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Fine with me; do your stuff. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 21:45, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Some day I'll learn to stop sticking my nose into stuff, but evidently that's not today. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 02:00, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Notice Of Short Inactivity From WP:CVUA And Wikipedia As a whole
I will be Inactive From your mentoring for WP:CVUA and possibly Wikipedia as a whole for a short time (With the exception of the occasional New page patrol). Mostly Because of personal issues and depression. and maybe a little (Gasp) Boredom of Wikipedia. Sorry if i take up space in your User Sub-pages for a month or more. Hope you understand. <span style="background-color: #FFE4B5; font-style: italic; border:2px dotted DarkOliveGreen 	">Dudel250 ChatPROD Log CSD Logs 08:06, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Seeking Adoption
Hi Yunshui, I would like you to admit me into your adoption program. Although I am a bit of an old user I would not say I know my way around entirely. I am part of the welcoming team and I receive a lot of questions from new users, in most cases I'm not in the position to give them the best of answers so what I do is to reconstruct the question on their talk page and place a "help me" tag on it. I find that most of the time the response comes from you and it's usually very good though concise. But anyway that's how you came to my attention and I thank you for all the responses that you give out. I'm an admin hopeful and I believe there are so many lessons here and there you could teach me to becoming a better Wikipedian and a successful admin one day. I am looking forward to drinking from your well of many years of experience and great contributions. Kind Regards... —Sadat ( Masssly ) ❤Talk☮C☺Email☯ 22:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not... you're experienced enough that my adoption school is probably pitched a bit low for your skills, though if you want to make use of one or two sections to test your knowledge you are more than welcome to do so. What might work better would be if you led the way in letting me know what areas you want to improve in - helping new users is certainly a laudable goal, so you might want to pitch in at the Teahouse and the Help desk - just monitoring those pages is a good way to learn the standard solutions to new editors' most common issues. If you're looking to run for adminship at some point in the future, I can point you at the areas you'll need to work in and suggest how to approach them. Or if there's any specific element of Wikipedia's policies that you think you need more explanation on, just say the word. Look forward to working with you. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 09:05, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow that will be great, I really enjoy interacting and helping new users and to be involved with the the Teahouse and the Help desk would suit me perfectly. On my run for adminship later I cant wait for you to point me toward those areas I need to work in. Thank you so much and sorry for my late response.—Sadat ( Masssly ) ❤Talk☮C☺Email☯ 00:38, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Yunshui I'm afraid you might not have noticed my reply, Regards... —Sadat ( Masssly ) ❤Talk☮C☺Email☯ 00:56, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Precious again
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Thank you for quality articles for projects Japan, China and Korea, and catching facts about them, such as Gao Ming, for warning vandals and acting against them, for helping newbies and harmoniously, for adopting and retaining users, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 501st recipient of my Pumpkin Sky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 31 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Two shinies in a single year? I'm touched; thank you! Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:23, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Yunshui/CVUA/Dudel250#Warning and reporting
You are invited to join the discussion at User:Yunshui/CVUA/Dudel250. You know that break i was talking about? Yeah i seem to not be able to take a break from Wikipedia :) Thanks. <span style="background-color: #FFE4B5; font-style: italic; border:2px dotted DarkOliveGreen 	">Dudel250 ChatPROD Log CSD Logs 06:30, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Addictive, isn't it? I've marked your additions - you might want to review them. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 07:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah but the mark you gave here...
 * ::Speaking (or in this case writeing) of Is used for vandalism that doesn't fit into anything else but doesn't fit into
 * As above. is worded more severely than  - why would you use one in preference to the other?


 * ...I admit i havent really Used   I hadn't Had much idea about what it was Used for. In fact i only noticed what it was ment to be used for when i read it on the warnings page :(. <span style="background-color: #FFE4B5; font-style: italic; border:2px dotted DarkOliveGreen 	">Dudel250 ChatPROD Log CSD Logs 10:02, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, the key advantage of the templates is that they can be applied to edits which might not actually constitute vandalism in the strictest sense, but are nonetheless disruptive. An example might be the good-faith addition of clearly unencyclopedic or inappropriate content. The template also has a link to the Welcoming Committee, which you might want to offer the user to help them feel more at home. It might help if you can clarify in your own head why disruptive editing differs from vandalism - the two terms cover different, if related, issues. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 10:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

The Brass Armadillo
Hello, I was trying to add an article about The Brass Armadillo, but I wasn't finished. I tried to simply save my work, not knowing that the article would be posted immediately. I was under the impression that until I had a verified account, nothing I wrote would be seen. Also, I forgot the password to the account I originally posted the article with so I had to create this one today. I will be resubmitting the full article again, so it will be similar to the first one which was apparently rejected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamtempletonIII (talk • contribs) 16:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I assume that makes you User:Badbatchbilly. Technically what you're doing would be considered an abuse of multiple accounts, but if we can assume that you won't be returning to your previous account then there should be no problem.
 * The original article was deleted because it did not make any case for the company being notable - the version you have posted under your new account, whilst in need of some editing to remove the promotional language therein, does contain sufficient sources to attest to notability, and so you need have no fear of the page being deleted again on that score. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 21:41, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/120.148.90.195
He/she added "Hardbag" four times on dance-pop page with stylistic origins field, which is not related. 183.171.168.223 (talk) 09:54, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You're both edit-warring - you need to stop and discuss this before blocks start getting handed out. 120...195's contributions don't qualify as vandalism to my eyes, so you need to treat this as a content dispute - take it to the talkpage, please. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 10:07, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Reply of User:Neilvin John Aventurado
Hello yunshui,

I am very sorry that I created again an account. I gave my Wikipedia password to my brother, because he said that he need it to create also an article, but when I need again to open my acct., I can't open because he changed it, and he show me the vandalism he made (including the deletion of the article Manggahan High School, so I'm creating it again.. I also sorry for the vandalism he made. Don't you worry, I'll not ever create again an account and I will not give my password to others.

Can you please also give me tips to creating an article, editing, and how to use Wikipedia wisely?
 * Read this. Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 12:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Er... why? Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * He's saying he gave his password to his brother...instead of having his brother make an account. Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 12:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh right, sorry - I thought we were still discussing Bonkers (I wondered why you'd posted up here...). No need to worry about this one, though, it's long been sorted out. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm a compulsive talk page stalker. It's not a problem. Origamite\(·_·\)(/·_·)/ 13:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Page of Kho Boon Cheng
May i know what is the method i can't create this page in Wikimedia? I really not understand just create a simple introduce person page also will speed deletion. So, can you please don't let this page got any notice and note to be clean and like original also don't have unsuccessful records.

By the way, please explain in my talk page and let me got change to create this page next time. And help me to renew the page without not success records.

Thank you

K.b.cheng (talk) 17:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. We are trying to create an encyclopedia, not a social networking site or CV database. Please do not post an article about yourself on Wikipedia again. You may use your Wikipedia userpage to communicate a limited amount of information about yourself that relates to your work on Wikipedia, but you may not use it to advertise your CV. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 09:11, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Alright, can this page totally delete without any notices? I mean when search on this page Kho Boon Cheng without any notices.

K.b.cheng (talk) 12:10, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * No; that isn't possible, I'm afraid. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:13, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Ya, somebody speedy deletion can totally delete without any notice when search in. Please do it for my page Kho Boon Cheng.

Thanks

K.b.cheng (talk) 07:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC)


 * 'Fraid not. Once a page has been deleted, a search on Wikipedia for that exact page title will always bring up the deleted article page (although it will eventually drop off search engines such as Google or Bing, if that's what you're asking about). The only time this won't happen is if a new page is actually created at that title. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)