User talk:Z.K. HAL

Please, stop edit war in Thriller (album)
The most likely number has been settled as between 51-65 million. It has already been proven that the 100 or so million, Wikipedia has much to do (primary source). Moreover, There sources as The Wall Street Journal indicating that the 100 or so million is a totally arbitrary. There are many sources such as MTV, Rolling Stone or Billboard that assume 100 million, well then it's a matter of explaining this in a note. Regards, Chrishonduras (talk) 00:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Again, I'll explain one thing: these type edits among the "articles" of "Thriller", Michael Jackson or bestseller music lists made believe to many media the album had sold 100 million or more. This is from 2006, never really noticed until half after half confirmed it to consolidate an unprecedented way during the death mediatic of Mr. Jackson. So there are plenty of sources "reliable" to indicate this fact. For example, Rolling Stone from Spain says:

"Thriller by Michael Jackson, is the biggest selling album in history with over 65 million copies certified . So many still dispatching even today that are not entirely clear numbers and even the Guinness Book speaks of numbers greater than 100 million"

What?, 65 million copies certified?. It is totally false. Allmusic speaks of certified copies: 29 million in the U.S. and another 20 in the rest of the world So really, after the death of Jackson if much has certified 47 million. With the other point ("Guinness Book speaks of numbers greater than 100 million") is totally false, because, barely in 2011, says 65 million. Not surprisingly, as it is verifiable means The Irish Times (since 1859 ) Based on Wikipedia without seeing if the information is a lie or not. So while there are many references such as MTV or Billboard to talk about 100 or more million, with a note to the couple is more than enough. It is common sense and Irnore all rules. Thanks for understanding, Chrishonduras (talk) 04:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC) PD: Sorry to write to the race, I have dream

Warnning 1
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Thriller (album). Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Chrishonduras (talk) 17:56, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

RE:
Okay, You see: I have nothing against Mr. Jackson. I'm just being fair. The problem is that it is appropriate to put that "Thriller" has sold between 51 to 65 million copies. Because even after the death of Jackson, the certifications do not reach those numbers, in the US 29 million, outside the US, it has sold over 20 million copies; so also is common sense leave it: has sold between 51 to 65 million copies. While there are sources like MTV indicating that the album has sold 100 million or more, there are also credible sources that indicate that these figures are unrealistic or inflated. Moreover, even in 2012 there are several sources that put the figures at 50 million. We have to present both realities and let the readers decide what to think and what to do with both facts. Therefore, I don’t understand why we have to hide a fact that has reliable sources as well. We don’t have to cherry pick statements, we have to show all that’s in front of us and that actually comes from real sources. I do not know you come of a forum for fans of Michael Jackson or UKMIX but I recommend not be making figures. Thanks for understanding. Best regards, Chrishonduras (talk) 04:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)