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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).



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 * An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
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Tech News: 2024-14
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Recent changes
 * Users of the reading accessibility beta feature will notice that the default line height for the standard and large text options has changed.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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 * The Wikimedia Foundation has an annual plan. The annual plan decides what the Wikimedia Foundation will work on. You can now read the draft key results for the Product and Technology department. They are suggestions for what results the Foundation wants from big technical changes from July 2024 to June 2025. You can comment on the talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

== On 8 February 1993, Iran Air Tours Flight 962, a Tupolev Tu-154, collided in mid-air with an Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) Sukhoi Su-24 attack aircraft near the Iranian capital of Tehran ==

On 8 February 1993, Iran Air Tours Flight 962, a Tupolev Tu-154, collided in mid-air with an Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) Sukhoi Su-24 attack aircraft near the Iranian capital of Tehran 2.191.133.103 (talk) 11:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

خبر مرگت اول برو خوب مطالعه کن تو خود ویکیپدیا سوانح هوایی ایران بعد بیا ادعای دونستن از شیر مرغ تا جون آدمیزاد بکن ۱۹۹۳ یک فروند سوخو-۲۴ نیروی هوایی ایران با توپولف-۱۵۴ هواپیمایی ایران ایرتور برخورد کرد و ۱۳۴ کشته برجا گذاشت. سوخو با برخورد به دم هواپیمای مسافربری با چرخش زیاد حول محور عمودی به حالت سقوط مطلق در می‌آید. دم هواپیمای توپولف کنده شده و عده‌ای با صندلیهایشان به آسمان پرتاب می‌شوند. در این حادثه اشتباه خلبان سوخو دلیل بروز سانحه اعلام شد. در ۳ فروردین ۱۳۹۰ خورشیدی یک جنگنده سوخو-۲۴ در استان فارس سقوط کرد که ۲ خلبانش از هواپیما بیرون پریدن که چتر یکی از آنان باز نشد که منجر به مرگ آن خلبان شد. در در ۲۴ تیر ۱۳۹۳ خورشیدی، ساعت ۹:۲۰ دقیقه صبح در حوالی روستای قشقاوی در کنار دریاچه بختگان در دهستان خیر از توابع شهرستان استهبان، یک فروند سوخو -۲۴ متعلق به نیروی هوایی ایران سقوط کرد. خلبانان این جنگنده پیش از وقوع این سانحه، با موفقیت ایجکت کردند و هر دو نفر در سلامت کامل با چتر نجات فرود آمدند 2.191.133.103 (talk) 11:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * And what would you like me to do with this information? - ZLEA T \ C 14:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024
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Tech News: 2024-15
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 * Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
 * Octicons-gift.svg A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check.
 * Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-16
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Problems
 * Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked).
 * A new variable  will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made.

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 * Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the  and  tables. Some queries might need to be updated.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Will you help in an infobox
@ZLEA, I've added all units that I were to add in Template:Israel–Hamas war infobox, but it seems kinda squished, tried multiple times to fix it, couldn't, will ya please help, anyways thanks for your kind behaviour that you showed by fixing my USERBOX M Waleed (talk) 15:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * all these units were taken from other articles of the battles, I wrote in edit summary, of you ask for the source of these units M Waleed (talk) 15:29, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Is there a discussion that led to the addition of these units to the infobox? Personally, I think the conflict has grown to the point where it might not be feasible to include a complete list of units in the infobox, and it might be better to move the list to the Israel–Hamas war article itself.  That said, you might also consider creating a content fork, perhaps titled List of units involved in the Israel–Hamas war.  Whatever you decide, you should probably discuss it first at Talk:Israel–Hamas war. - ZLEA T \ C 17:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I put the units in a collapsible format and I think it should be placed as all of the idf is not involved, M Waleed (talk) 00:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * To answer your question, the infobox otherwise looks fine on my device. May I ask what your screen resolution is?  I'll see if I can replicate the problems you are having. - ZLEA T \ C 17:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * the problem is that the titles, Israel Hezbollah conflict and red sea crisis, instead of being in the back start from middle M Waleed (talk) 00:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I see it now. It was caused by a misplaced "}}" which ended the "Inavsion of Gaza Strip:" bullet list after the "Red sea crisis:" section.  It is fixed now.  Let me know if you find any other issues. - ZLEA T \ C 01:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot M Waleed (talk) 02:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @ZLEA, I might sound a bit annoying but can you also fix the units on the side of Hamas, the collapsed list has its title hidden, I Mean it doesn't show up, only [Show] comes but not the title, moreover what I may add is that while you're at it also use the small template for Hamas units as well as units on other fronts. M Waleed (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's fixed now, but I did notice a link to the Lone Wolf disambiguation page among the list of armed groups.  Is this referring to a group called the "Lone Wolves"?  If so, then the link should be changed to reflect that, even if no article currently exists (for example, Lone Wolves (Palestinian group) or similar).  However, if it's referring to lone individuals not affiliated with any group, then it probably should not be grouped with actual armed groups. - ZLEA T \ C 15:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It's referring to Non affiliates and there are many articles of such lone wolf attacks I can provide in a second. M Waleed (talk) 15:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * 2024 Ra'anana attack 2024 Kiryat Malakhi attack etc are examples of lone wolf attacks in this war M Waleed (talk) 15:40, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Unaffiliated individuals should probably be listed separately from armed groups. Perhaps they could be listed in their own section like the Palestine Police currently is. - ZLEA T \ C 15:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll do so M Waleed (talk) 15:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Moreover also convert the size of individual units of Hamas and those of Other theatres to small size M Waleed (talk) 15:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ - ZLEA T \ C 15:52, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks M Waleed (talk) 15:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-17
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Recent changes
 * Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention.
 * You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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 * This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of /vector.js to /vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia.

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 April 2024
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Tech News: 2024-18
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Recent changes


 * The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: . These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences (""). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks.
 * Seven new wikis have been created:
 * a in Betawi
 * a in Kusaal
 * a in Igala
 * a in Karakalpak
 * a in Burmese
 * a in Malay
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 * You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups.
 * Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.

Problems
 * Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using  . This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg JohnOwens · Killiondude · MelanieN · Nihonjoe

Bureaucrat changes
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CheckUser changes
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Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news
 * Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.

Technical news
 * Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.

Miscellaneous
 * This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
 * A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
 * Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election is open until 9 May 2024. Read the voting page on Meta-Wiki and cast your vote here!

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Tech News: 2024-19
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Recent changes
 * The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences (""). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the . More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs".

Future changes
 * A new service will be built to replace Extension:Graph. Details can be found in the latest update regarding this extension.
 * Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "Add a link". This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias. These communities can activate and configure the feature locally.

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MediaWiki message delivery 16:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024
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Tech News: 2024-20
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Recent changes
 * On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list.
 * If you use the user-preference "", then the template-page feature "" will now also work without reloading the page.
 * Kartographer maps can now specify an alternative text via the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> attribute. This is identical in usage to the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> attribute in the image and gallery syntax. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive.
 * The old Guided Tour for the "New Filters for Edit Review" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure.

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 * In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Two columns of the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> database table (<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> ) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the new <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> table instead (<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> ). In your existing SQL queries:
 * Replace <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> in the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> statement
 * Below that add <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">
 * See T222224 for technical reasoning.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 May 2024
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Tech News: 2024-21
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Recent changes
 * The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title.
 * New changes have been made to the UploadWizard in Wikimedia Commons: the overall layout has been improved, by following new styling and spacing for the form and its fields; the headers and helper text for each of the fields was changed; the Caption field is now a required field, and there is an option for users to copy their caption into the media description.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-22
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Recent changes
 * Several bugs related to the latest updates to the UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons have been fixed. For more information, see T365107 and T365119.
 * Octicons-tools.svg In March 2024 a new addPortlet API was added to allow gadgets to create new portlets (menus) in the skin. In certain skins this can be used to create dropdowns. Gadget developers are invited to try it and give feedback.
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MediaWiki message delivery 00:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Aero Spacelines Mini Guppy and Henschel Projekt P.75
Hey, I was just wondering, I found out that the Mini Guppy article has been deleted, and have found your sandbox for it, are you intending to improve it to meet GNG or are using it for other articles A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I plan on improving it with sources from my university's library. If I can't adequately do that, then I plan on incorporating it into an existing article (in fact, I would not be opposed to merging all Aero Spacelines Guppy aircraft into a single article).  I have yet to get to it as the past few weeks have been crazy for me, so if you wish to work on it, feel free to do so.  I consider my sandbox open to all who wish to contribute. -  ZLEA  T \ C 00:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I do not plan on helping right now, but I am happy to know it is being worked on as I really like the Guppy line of planes. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Same here. I remember when I first saw the prototype Super Guppy at the Pima Air & Space Museum when I was 10 years old.  That was the first time I had heard of or seen the Guppy line, and I want to spot N941NA the next time it flies to Florida. -  ZLEA  T \ C 00:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm planning to eventually go there one day, but that's gonna be a little difficult as I'm on the other side of the country, nice to see someone else who likes the Guppy line as much as I do A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Not trying to spam your notifications or bug you, but I have this one article I made that I want deleted as I think doesn't meet GNG and doesnt have reliable sources Henschel Projekt P.75. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I know of quite a few sources that might have some information on the P.75. I'll be sure to check them out when I go for the Mini Guppy sources. -  ZLEA  T \ C 01:07, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help :) A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I was able to find some sources for the Mini Guppy. I did not find any for the Henschel P.75, though I now realize that I might have been looking in the wrong places, so I will not give up hope on that one just yet. -  ZLEA  T \ C 20:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, it's fine if you can't find many sources on the P.75, as there is a massive sea of WW2 German wind-tunnel designs that never flew, theres actually a website that has them all: Luft46.com, (could'nt add link because its pretty old) A-37Dragonfly (talk) 23:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Theres also List of German aircraft projects, 1939–1945 A-37Dragonfly (talk) 23:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Luft46.com is known to perpetuate debunked myths about German wunderwaffe. It is on the list of common aviation sources to avoid, as is Military Factory.  I'm not saying the P.75 is one of those myths, but Luft46.com should not be used as a source for the article.  I'll keep looking for sources, but you might want to WP:PROD the article in the meantime. -  ZLEA  T \ C 23:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didnt know Luft46 was, but after I put up the P.75 article, I found out military factory was unreliable, but i didnt know how to PROD it, I still dont know, could you help PROD it? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've PRODED the article. I've also restored Aero Spacelines Mini Guppy. -  ZLEA  T \ C 01:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I just saw your PROD attempts. You might want to try Twinkle.  It greatly simplifies PRODing, reverting vandalism, and many other otherwise tedious tasks. -  ZLEA  T \ C 03:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I may use twinkle if I consider becoming a real editor, for now I'm fine with small edits. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:31, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems an admin dePRODed Henschel Projekt P.75. Maybe we can get it draftified until we can get it reworked. -  ZLEA  T \ C 21:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I was actually about to tell you about that, I've found 1 book that lines up with alot of the article, would you say this is a reliable source for the article? https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aircraft_of_the_Luftwaffe_1935_1945/hdQBTcscxyQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Henschel+Project+P.75&pg=PA241&printsec=frontcover A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:24, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This is the only book i've been able to find, don't think it has much hopes of getting to GNG. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like it might be a good source. I could have sworn that I checked that one, but I might be mistaking it for a similarly-titled book. -  ZLEA  T \ C 21:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Im assuming Tvd.im is also an unreliable source too, right? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It appears to be WP:SPS with no evidence that the author is a subject-matter expert, so it's probably unreliable. - ZLEA  T \ C 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, im currently adding the book source wherever possible, for now ive left the old sources in, but if you want me to remove them i can. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I already replaced some of the sources, so you will likely run into an edit conflict. I don't really care what you do with the remaining unreliable sources, you can leave them in for now (you might want to tag them) or replace them with citation needed tags. -  ZLEA  T \ C 21:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I did run into a edit conflict, but as you basically did what I was doing I just discarded my edits. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I also think we should consider removing "Projekt" from the titles of Henschel Projekt P.75 and Henschel Projekt P.87. I have not seen many reliable sources covering these aircraft, but most reliable sources I've seen covering other Projekts from Henschel and other manufacturers do not include "Projekt" in the designation. Since "P" already stands for Projekt, it's as redundant as "ATM machine". - ZLEA  T \ C 00:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree, its not needed, ill actually go remove it now A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've actually found a lot of issues on the P.87 article, no sources at all, no image (least of the concerns), and the name, I also don't know how to change the article name. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * We should probably find some more sources before we commit to page moves. We would have a stronger argument in favor of the moves if we have sources to back them up. -  ZLEA  T \ C 00:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, i've added the same source as the one I used on the P.75 on the P.87 article, I could only find 1 place to cite though, as the rest has alot of info I can't cite because it isn't in my source. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Aircraft_of_the_Luftwaffe_1935_1945/hdQBTcscxyQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Henschel+P.87&pg=PA140&printsec=frontcover A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't have another source, but the source I have for the P.87 actually had more info on it than I thought, maybe even a diagram (I'm really not sure, just there was a diagram on it, but it's probably not worth going after it) A-37Dragonfly (talk) 01:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll also start looking for some sources, But I dont think i will be able to add too many as I don't have a large library near me, so I'll have to stick to online sources or books I can find online. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 00:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Turns out my university's library has a source we can use. It also has a few with brief mentions, but not nearly enough information for our purposes.  Between this and the online sources, I think we might have enough to replace the existing unreliable sources. -  ZLEA  T \ C 03:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The brief mentions sources may not be suited for the article, but when we try to move the pages to remove "projekt", I think those would help, they dont use projekt right? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 19:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * They do not. - ZLEA  T \ C 19:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, are the sources with brief mentions reliable? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 19:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * They are. They just don't cover the P.75 in any detail. -  ZLEA  T \ C 19:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * So we could make a argument showing unreliable sources like Luft 46, Military factory, and TVD.IM use projekt, and reliable ones do not. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 19:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Unreliable sources are not usually taken into account during page moves. I still have yet to see any reliable source use Projekt, so I don't know that removing it would be likely to be challenged. -  ZLEA  T \ C 19:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, so right now its really just adding sources to the P.87 and P.75 articles A-37Dragonfly (talk) 19:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have moved both articles. - ZLEA  T \ C 20:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, thank you A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I just have 1 more thing, its about the Mini Guppy article, there were 2 Turbines versions built, and they both flew but the first turbine, N111AS, crashed in testing, N112AS was never pressed into service I believe, but what happened to it after, was it broken up for scrap like the Pregnant Guppy? Did it continue testing and decided not to be put into service? A-37Dragonfly (talk) 21:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have yet to find any information on the history of N112AS other than its FAA registration details. Many sources claim that only N111AS was built, but that's clearly not true as it was registered with the FAA.  The only other information I have found, as well as what seems to be the only image of the aircraft online, is from this X post, which I have serious doubts about its reliability and accuracy. -  ZLEA  T \ C 22:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, while I was l searching for what happened to N112AS I came across those, Its probably best to assume after the N111AS crash, It was possibly deemed unsafe and scrapped A-37Dragonfly (talk) 23:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * We can't include that in the article without sources, but I do think that's plausible. - ZLEA  T \ C 01:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking about adding it to the article really, I guess we wont be able to know for sure A-37Dragonfly (talk) 02:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you

 * Thanks. I had actually PRODed the article at the request of the creator as it was entirely sourced from unreliable sources.  I had previously checked my university's library for sources but found nothing, though I still plan to double check because I might have missed some sources. -  ZLEA  T \ C 00:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * My bad, I didn't see that you were talking about Aero Spacelines Mini Guppy. - ZLEA  T \ C 00:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes! I understood what had happened with the P.75. As a general rule, in practice, an individual aircraft type (even an unbuilt one) will almost always pass GNG. It might just be tricky to get to the sources!
 * As for the Mini Guppy, it was PRODed by an IP, but one with an editing pattern that resembles that of a tendentious editor of the distant past. As for carrying out the PROD, I assume good faith, of course, but it should have been manifestly evident to the admin who actually performed the deletion that this was not a PROD candidate! Anyway, I'm just glad it's back where it should be! --Rlandmann (talk) 01:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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Cessna Citation 500
Howdy! Regarding the Cessna name and model number template, the initial Citation model was marketed as the "Citation 500" or "Citation Series 500" before the upgraded Citation I was announced. Many published sources from the early 70s ignore the model number, presumably because there was no other Citation to confuse it with; additionally, many of these aircraft were converted to the full Citation I standard or close to it. However, early 70s Cessna advertising and later sources such as this 1991 Flying article reference the full name. Carguychris (talk) 18:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * While many Cessna aircraft were marketed with their model numbers, the list of names should be for marketing names other than the model numbers. For example, the Cessna 172 was initially marketed only as the "172" before the deluxe model added the "Skyhawk" name.  We don't include "172" in the navbox's list of names even though it was the only designation applied to many early models.  The Model 500 is no different, as "500" is the model number while "Citation I" is a name that was applied to certain aircraft of the type. -  ZLEA  T \ C 18:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I see that you re-added "500" to the list of names. If you feel strongly about including it, then perhaps we should start an RfC about adding all model numbers that were marketed without names to the list of names (which, I'm going to be honest, I would oppose). -  ZLEA  T \ C 18:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Will you help
Ahm, bro do you remember me, you've helped me a couple of times before and I really appreciate it but in my sandbox as I'm translating an article there's been some problem like I don't know how to use sfn properly and before the article goes outta hand I'm seeking your assistance

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:M_Waleed/sandbox

Just please correct the references I'll be highly thankful Waleed  (talk) 12:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @ZLEA, what happens is when I click on the references it doesn't lead to anywhere unlike the Russian one from where I'm translating that if you click on refs it takes you to sources section and highlights the ref Waleed  (talk) 14:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I noticed that. I'm currently going through the Template:Sfn documentation and looking for possible issues. -  ZLEA  T \ C 14:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This edit fixed the issue for the Сахарова source. There seems to be an issue with how you were filling the "ref" parameter in Template:Cite web.  Instead of filling it manually, you should use  .  Likewise, the references should follow the  format, with the last name and year being identical to those used in the harvid template. -  ZLEA  T \ C 14:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Could you please do that for me I'll be grateful  Waleed  (talk) 14:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ - ZLEA  T \ C 15:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

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Sorry dude, I bother ya too Much by asking help repeatedly
Well, I live in Pakistan and it just so happens to be that Wikimedia commons is banned here, so I have to upload images directly on english wiki so I've uploaded some files like The source which I give is Hebrew wiki but on Hebrew wiki it has been placed in multiple articles without any issue but on English wiki I've some difficulty in rationale (although I've provided one as Non free but it isn't the right one as IDF logos are somewhat of public domain/have their own fair use policy allowing all articles about IDF) if you can resolve this one image I'll get to know how to do that to others (more than like 20 images) Waleed  (talk) 07:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IAF_Hornet_Squadron_113_Logo.png#mw-jump-to-license


 * This for example is an image by IDF spokesperson unit (same as the source provided by me) and it can be used for all IDF linked pages
 * IAF Squadron 116 Adir.png Waleed  (talk) 07:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not too surprised that you ran into this kind of problem on English Wikipedia. The different Wikipedias each have their own policies and guidelines regarding fair use content, and English Wikipedia happens to be one of the more strict ones (I assume Hebrew Wikipedia is a bit more lenient with fair use rationale).  Unfortunately, I do not have much experience in this area, but I think the people at WP:IMAGEHELP might be able to help you.
 * As for the Commons ban, there may be ways around that. First, is it illegal to bypass the ban?  Second, is it legal to use a VPN in Pakistan?  If the answer to both questions is no, then you might consider using a VPN to access Commons and any other inaccessible Wikimedia projects.  Most open proxy IPs are blocked on sight, however, so you would likely need an IP block exemption to use a VPN (see c:Commons:IP block exemption).  This is how many Chinese Wikipedia editors are able to contribute, so it may work for you as well. -  ZLEA  T \ C 08:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But one thing surprises me here is that the image in my reply although CC 3.0 is able to be put on other pages without any problem so how's that and secondly VPN although legal in Pakistan is temporarily being shut down (Along with Social media) for the upcoming Ashura due to security concerns Waleed  (talk) 09:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @ZLEA, I've put the request on WP:IMAGEHELP and c:Commons:IP block exemption isn't working as commons ain't available here Waleed  (talk) 16:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. You should be able to access the page with a VPN as soon as it's available to you, but until then, here is the English Wikipedia equivalent. -  ZLEA  T \ C 16:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation seeks applicants for the Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). This group will bring technical contributors and Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform. Council members will evaluate and consult on the movement's product and technical activities, so that we develop multi-generational projects. We are looking for a range of technical contributors across the globe, from a variety of Wikimedia projects. Please apply here by August 10.
 * Editors with rollback user-rights who use the Wikipedia App for Android can use the new Edit Patrol features. These features include a new feed of Recent Changes, related links such as Undo and Rollback, and the ability to create and save a personal library of user talk messages to use while patrolling. If your wiki wants to make these features available to users who do not have rollback rights but have reached a certain edit threshold, you can contact the team. You can read more about this project on Diff blog.
 * Editors who have access to The Wikipedia Library can once again use non-open access content in SpringerLinks, after the Foundation contacted them to restore access. You can read more about this and 21 other community-submitted tasks that were completed last week.

Changes later this week
 * This week, dark mode will be available on a number of Wikipedias, both desktop and mobile, for logged-in and logged-out users. Interface admins and user script maintainers are encouraged to check gadgets and user scripts in the dark mode, to find any hard-coded colors and fix them. There are some recommendations for dark mode compatibility to help.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Next week, functionaries, volunteers maintaining tools, and software development teams are invited to test the temporary accounts feature on testwiki. Temporary accounts is a feature that will help improve privacy on the wikis. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page.
 * Editors who upload files cross-wiki, or teach other people how to do so, may wish to join a Wikimedia Commons discussion. The Commons community is discussing limiting who can upload files through the cross-wiki upload/Upload dialog feature to users auto-confirmed on Wikimedia Commons. This is due to the large amount of copyright violations uploaded this way. There is a short summary at Commons:Cross-wiki upload and discussion at Commons:Village Pump.

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)