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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

rmv - unsourced not a venue to publish specific schedules. KVPY article which you just reverted do not have any citation in the result Declaration section.
there is no source that support what is written. therefore i think that such content might be misleading.


 * I'm sorry about that, I'll remove the warning from your talk page. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 22:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I made a mistake.

P-40 variants

 * I am extremely disappointed with your recent changes to the P-40 Variants page and the manner in which this was done. LankhmarJoe (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. However, I had good reasons for what I did.  While the original article did have an abundance of sources, it was written as if it were about operational history, with minimal info about the indevidual variants themselves.  Also, the original article failed to mention several variants including the P-40P and P-40Q.  I changed this article to a true variants article. -  ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 17:06, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Please take a page from your own book. YOU DO NOT OWN THAT ARTICLE EITHER. My understanding of Wikipedia policies is that major changes are normally preceded by discussions with an aim toward achieving consensus. As far as I'm concerned your change was implemented on an almost clandestine basis with a small mention at the bottom of the talk page three days before a total redesign of the page was implemented, which by the way included several errors including the page title.


 * As for the content of the article- the emphasis was not on development history since this information was already on the main P-40 page. I did intend to later add more development history as time allowed, but I thought the actual operational differences between types were what was most missing, again using the Spitfire and FW 190 variant pages as a guideline. The page also emphasized "mass-produced combat variants" as it says on the top of the page, because I felt these were the most significant interest to readers of Wikipedia many of whom have an interest in the combat history. The article was not complete, but it contained the most accurate data on numerous points that are often incorrectly reported about the various subtypes and relied on the most current available sources.


 * Differences on such matters as the emphasis of the article could and should have been resolved before the page was vandalized. LankhmarJoe (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

LankhmarJoe (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I know that I don't own the article, but you are the one acting as if you own it, as you reverted the redesign claiming I vandalized the page. I used the North American P-51 Mustang variants article as a guideline.  As if you focus only on the mass-produced combat variants and cut out the experimental ones, you leave out a lot of great encyclopedic content.  Why in your right mind would you do that?  Why would you leave out the experimental variants?


 * Mass produced combat variants were emphasized because those are the variants people are the most interested in. Giving minor variants that did not see combat or were not even produced the same weight as major combat variants is confusing to the reader.


 * However, that is irrelevant to this discussion. If your issue with the page was the lack of experimental or minor variants you could have easily 1) added them yourself to the existing page, or 2) put in a note or a tag on the page or in the talk page requesting this data be added, and there wouldn't have been any dispute whatsoever. Are you really unable to grasp why deleting an entire (long, detailed, carefully sourced) page that has been actively edited all year and replacing it in it's entirety without any genuine notification to the other editors active on the page would be acceptable? Do you sincerely believe that is in synch with Wikipedia culture of collaboration and mutual respect? I would call this a classic example of uw-delete "Removal of content without adequate explanation" at a bare minimum. I didn't delete any work- I restored the page that had been removed. Your page is something from your sandbox where it still resides- which has only had cursory review by two editors who as far as I know have never been involved in any of the P-40 pages. You made a mistake in replacing the existing content without really reviewing it. Your new content also contained several errors but that is a secondary issue. At this point you need to recognize your mistake in replacing the page outright and then we can begin moving toward a reasonable resolution of the dispute. LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I also noticed that your version of the page lacked sources, something mentioned in the (brief!) review. I suspect that it's because a lot of your data probably comes from a small number of older books which were probably not up to date. There have been a great deal of very persistent mistakes repeated over and over about this particular aircraft, and you need quite a few sources and preferably relatively current ones (a major new source was just released in November for example) in order to do justice to this subject. LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:41, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

P.S. The Spitfire and Fw 190 variants articles focus on the experimental models too. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 01:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * So if I found an omission of a few variants they neglected to include should I delete the whole page and replace it with a completely different one? LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:21, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * No, you improve it, if you need to "delete" the page and write a new one, than it's ok to do so, but bring it up on the wikiproject first. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 16:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Please do not edit the variants page any more I am going to dispute resolution LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have every right to contribute, and again, a lot of your "operations" info was not relevant or in the wrong section. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 15:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018
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Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
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Testing Signature
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
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Administrator changes
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 * R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion).  This is db-redircom; the text is unchanged.
 * G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use db-blankdraft.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
 * Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.

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 * Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length . All accounts must have a password:
 * At least 8 characters in length
 * Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the [//github.com/wikimedia/password-blacklist Password Blacklist library])
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 * User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
 * Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
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Arbitration
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Miscellaneous
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The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019
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Your username
It's a bit odd, by your username apparently is in violation of our policies. I might be wrong, but I and many others view all cap users as a representatives of a specific organization. I'm however aware that you were editing under this name for 2 years, and perhaps nobody raised a concern, but let me know if you won't mind to change a username since its very confusing for me and many others. Thanks.--Biografer (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing it out. According to the article, however, the Free Trade Area of the Americas is a proposed trade agreement, not an organization. -  ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 18:31, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, what does FTAA have to do with your username?--Biografer (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The french abbreviation is ZLÉA. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 18:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. Not that I demand on the username change, but I don't think it will be only me who will see a problem with it in a near future. And yes, while it is maybe not an organization, it still might fall into username violation. For example, you might be a person who proposed the agreement, that automatically will result in COI. :(--Biografer (talk) 18:48, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're trying to say, but my username does have something to do with me, if it's changed, it will most likely be minor. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 19:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I really don't think anyone else will have a problem here. In the first page of admins, I've already found the "all cap users", , , , , , , , , and . See the Strong Law of Small Numbers. There are only 456976 possible four-letter sequences and billions of people, so it's not surprising when any given sequence has been used somewhere before. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:22, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019
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magical 39kg driver!
any chance you'll fix the obvious ever then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I see no error, such info, if true, would not even be relevant in the article. If you feel otherwise, please source your info. -  ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 14:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

"849 kg (1,872 lb) dry and 888 kg (1,958 lb) with driver ballast"

Do you even math? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Ah my bad, thought it said driver AND ballast LOL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Just don't vandalize, whether information is wrong or not, we appreciate improvements, not vandalism. If you see wrong information, fix it, if you can't fix it, notify others on the talk page. - ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 14:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Roger that. Never noticed a talk section until today! Me thinks I need glasses! haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:37, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:
 * 1) First, sign up your group here.
 * 2) Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group.  This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
 * 3) Then ask people what they think about communication processes.  We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki.  Please consider asking these five questions:
 * 4) When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
 * 5) What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
 * 6) What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
 * 7) What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
 * 8) What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
 * 9) Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group.  Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you. Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Kanodar
Is the name that is there the correct one? It's not, according to this page, but maybe I misunderstood. I am concerned, though, that no reference is provided, so people can basically say what they want. ubiquity (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if what I reverted was not vandalism. If you can source the name, there should be no more confusion in the future. -  ZLEA  Talk \ Contribs 21:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09
<section begin="technews-2019-W09"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions.

Changes later this week
 * When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 February. It will be on all wikis from 28 February (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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The Signpost: 28 February 2019
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