User talk:ZachGreenfieldSavings

Help me!
Please help me with creating a page for the business I work for. I'm an employee of Greenfield Savings Bank and my most recent assignment was to look in to getting a Wikipedia page set up for our organization. I created a username and started looking into making a page. Then as I was reading the help page I realized that I had a conflict of interest with the subject, my employer, and that would affect how I could create and edit pages in relation to Greenfield Savings Bank. How I understand the Conflict of Interest guidelines is that I declare that I have a Conflict in relation to a page, and that if I have a Conflict I shouldn't create the page. So how do I get started? I'd declare my conflict but the page isn't set up yet, and I can't create it. Should I have some other random person start the process of creating it? I want to make sure I'm as transparent as possible and following the community guidelines. Thank you in advance for any help in this manner!

ZachGreenfieldSavings (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, you need to read both WP:PAID and WP:COI before considering your next steps and it would be best to request the article is created. Your username also violates our policies so you should chose a new one at WP:CHUS After reviewing this guideline. RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) 21:33, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * You may visit Requested Articles to request that others write about your bank, but that process is severely backlogged. If your bank meets the notability criteria written at WP:ORG as shown with independent reliable sources with significant coverage(not press releases, the bank website, staff interviews, or other primary sources), someone will eventually take note of the bank and write about it.  That's what Wikipedia is looking for; we have no interest in what an article subject wants to say about itself. Feel free to show this to your boss or superiors to help them understand.
 * You should declare your conflict of interest and paid editing status on your user page once you change your username. 331dot (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I will add that it is possible to create and submit a draft for an independent review using Articles for Creation. However, I would caution you that it is risky for someone in your position to do that, and although it is possible, most do not succeed because they are too close to the subject.  For you to be successful, you would need to forget everything you know about the bank and only write based on what independent reliable sources state. If your bank is not written about significantly in independent sources, it would not merit an article here at this time.  Not every bank merits an article here. I think your best bet, is to make a request at Requested Articles. 331dot (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Zach, thanks for being open about your connection with the bank, it's appreciated. A couple of things: Actually, your username is fine, you don't need to change it. We don't allow shared "company" accounts, or generic position ones, but specific individuals at companies are ok, if the account is only used by that one person.
 * Secondly, your company has given you a somewhat challenging assignment, a bit like "look into getting a Boston Globe article written about us". Not impossible, but definitely not guaranteed. As the others mentioned, you can't just set up a Wikipedia article for yourself or your organization. It's not like LinkedIn or Facebook. You can't buy your way into the history books, you have to earn it. The criteria for companies to get an article is at WP:ORGCRITE. It's a bit long-winded, but the bottom line is that unless there is an in-depth story about the bank itself in at least two reputably-published books, or news stories with national or state-wide distribution, it will probably not be possible. I did a quick Google search, and unfortunately that's the way it seems. I saw a lot of small stories in The Recorder, but nothing to indicate that the bank is significantly more notable than the average small-town bank. If you can find that - for real, no borderline stuff - leave a message on my talk page and I'll consider making a very basic article, a couple of sentences. It will probably stay that way though. You won't be able to edit it yourself. You'd be able to leave messages on the article's talk page to request edits, but nobody is required to respond to them, and if you request edits that sound in any way promotional, they'll be rejected. Those are the breaks!
 * If you're still interested, you can declare your status as a paid editor by clicking on "User page" at the top left, and adding: . Hope that helps... --IamNotU (talk) 02:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)