User talk:Zach Alan

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Proposed deletion of David Spada


The article David Spada has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. red dogsix (talk) 21:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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hello, this is my first wikipedia page and I could use some help. I would like to include a photo of david from http://www.sunpk.com/drag/pyramid%20years/celebrities/pages/007%20david%20spada%20deeelite%20with%20mbimbwe.htm

as well as images of Grace Jones wearing his work http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/mapplethorpe-grace-jones-ar00206 http://www.queerty.com/10-reasons-grace-joness-memoir-will-be-the-gayest-and-greatest-thing-ever-20130919/keith-haring-grace-jones_1

I have no idea how to go about this. also, I don't fully understand the deletion message above? please help. thank you. Zach Alan (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately none of those images are released under a free license that would allow everybody to re-use and modify them for any purpose, including commercial purposes. For living persons it's generally assumed that such a freely-licensed image could be produced (and for Jones we in fact have a free image of her in performance). Thus the non-free content criteria, particularly the first one, will not permit use of those images on Wikipedia.
 * The deletion message was added because the first version of the article did not cite any references, and it was completely unclear how the content could have been verified. Biographies of living persons are a sensitive topic due to the possibility of libel; for those the referencing requirements are particularly strict, and biographies without any references can be tagged for deletion. By now references have been added, and the deletion issue is resolved. Huon (talk) 22:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

thanks - I'll just provide links to those photos then. for some reason the page keeps reverting after I describe what's in the links, but hopefully it's edited acceptably now, and I'll wait for approval to touch up the formatting. Zach Alan (talk) 23:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

once the David Spada page is approved, I'll be able to link to that page from David's name at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_symbols#Freedom_rings, yes? thanks again Zach Alan (talk) 23:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I can't tell if the article is suitable for approval now, or if it will be deleted. I'm constructing this page from the kindness of my heart for a pal who died of AIDS in the 90's, but I'm only going to stick with this for so much longer. thank you in advance. Zach Alan (talk) 23:54, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The David Spada article is live and isn't awaiting any specific approval. It has a couple of problems, though, that you will want to work on. Most importantly, the referencing still needs to be improved. By now you have a list of references, but it's unclear which of them supports which of the draft's claims. For example, "Spada attended Parsons The New School for Design in New York City in the early to mid 1980s, and also taught jewelry there." - which reference would I have to look up in order to verify that? The way to clarify that would be by adding inline citations. I'd suggest to check out the video at WP:Referencing for beginners; it explains how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes for your references. (As a completely unrelated aside, we should refer to article subjects by their last name, unless they're better-known by a stage name; Cmr08 fixed that among other stylistic improvements.) The last paragraph to me reads like a mix of personal opinion, speculation and claims that, while possibly true, probably are extremely hard to find verification for. Unless there are in fact reliable sources confirming that "photos and documentation of his designs are dispersed across the Internet, and widely uncredited" (and here it's not enough to provide examples of his designs, uncredited, on the internet!), it should probably be removed.
 * Yoou can add links to the David Spada article from other articles, but that particular section of the LGBT symbols page doesn't cite any references either; while you're at it, it may be a good idea to recycle the relevant reference from the David Spada article and add it to the symbols article, too. Huon (talk) 00:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)