User talk:Zach Vega/Archive 12

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/KIRIKIRI TOWN
please sir Zach, i plead with you to assist me with my article, KIRIKIRI TOWN. tell me what to do in order for it to be accepted by you sir. thank you. --^^^^ 05:43, 25 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fedricx (talk • contribs)
 * Right now, the biggest issue is that the article is not written in summary style. Get rid of all those street statistics. After that, we'll see where we can go from there. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 11:07, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Pradeep Madhok
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Pradeep Madhok

hi Vega, as suggested i have now added some reliable sources. can you please assist me on how my article will go live?

Shruti Malviya (talk) 09:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * You have good sources, it's just that the article sounds promotional. Terms like "internationally renowned" and "a promoter of drug-free sport and physique" inflict an opinion upon the reader. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 11:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

First Indian Circumnavigation
Thank you for the review of my post: First Indian Circumnavigation. I had a query regarding the reason for the rejection. The existing article i.e. Trishna(yacht) was aimed to give the facts of the boat and its numerous voyages in brief. However, the present post if a important landmark in the nautical history of India and deserves a new page. It was the first occasion when any Indian has circumnavigated the globe in a sailing boat. Would you agree with this? Amreshwar Pratap Singh 09:59, 26 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayepee99 (talk • contribs)
 * You should add information that makes it dramatically different to the Trishna. You have it started in the "Honors and Awards" section, but what did this impact? Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 11:46, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I am sorry, but not understand what you meant. In the present article, the first sentence itself starts by giving a preview of the topic of the article, being the first circumnavigation by an Indian crew in a sailing boat. Are you implying that I shift the contents given in the Honours and Awards in the introductory section at the beginning? Amreshwar Pratap Singh 09:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayepee99 (talk • contribs)


 * Take the "Trishna was given the singular honour of thereafter being transported to New Delhi and displayed on a tableau as pert of the Republic Day Parade, 1987 along the Rajpath" sentence and put it in the lead as well, but still leave it in the "Honors and Awards" sections. That should do it. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 10:06, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the suggestion. Will do. Amreshwar Pratap Singh 10:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayepee99 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for all the help in improving my page and making it fit for publication! It was a long cherished dream! Will try improving the page. Amreshwar Pratap Singh 17:07, 30 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayepee99 (talk • contribs)

I have a query regarding the issues mentioned on the page while accepting the article. It is mentioned that this article is an "orphan" with no links to other pages. I have inserted a number of wikilinks and pipe links on the page. In addition, the article also links to the another article: Trishna (yacht). What else can be done so that this article is not categorized as "orphan"? Thanks. Amreshwar Pratap Singh 17:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayepee99 (talk • contribs)


 * It's not anymore, you just have to remove the label after you put links in. There isn't a bot that comes around and does it. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 20:54, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Gernatt Family of Companies
Hi Zach, Thanks for reviewing my submission. I know my citations section needs some work. I appreciate your time. Thanks, Daniellagreen (talk) 03:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Daniellagreen


 * No problem dude. Just resubmit it when the issues have been solved, and it's all good. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 10:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you kindly Mr. Vega
I am just so pleased when people edit Wikipedia properly that I feel the need to say thanks. I did not expect such a wonderful piece of feedback. Thank you kindly sir!--Soulparadox (talk) 05:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem dude. You contribute a ton to Wikipedia, and you deserve the corresponding amount of recognition for that. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 05:53, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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Article Mahanand Al Zaabi
My article is not being renewed since a long time.... Mahanad is a new player in the team then how can I answer that question of yours What did he do that makes him notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhosniomani20 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You should add a few secondary sources to prove that he's playing, how he joined, and why. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 16:47, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

dab page Lorde - Question
Hey, Zach, thanks for your work on the dab page Lorde. Just a question for you, as I was a little puzzled by the way it was handled. My AfC submission proposing to create the dab page was declined, but then you created the identical page I had proposed (same entries, with only a formatting change to one of the entries). I don't really care (much), since it has exactly the same effect, but I found this a little confusing and figured there must be some technical reason. Could you explain? Thanks. Dwpaul (talk) 01:21, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't let me move your page since the Lorde article was already in place. I had to move the Lorde (singer) article first, but then since that made Lorde a redirect, I had to just place the contents in the article. Since it technically existed at that point, I had no option but to decline it since it would try to automove it if accepted. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 01:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I figured it was something like that.  Thanks for the speedy reply! Dwpaul (talk) 01:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem dude. The move system is a complicated mess when it comes to AFC. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 01:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * But see now comment here and an editor who has reverted your move. Dwpaul (talk) 01:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. I'll try to justify the dab page. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 01:56, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Lorde disambiguation
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Recent review of PDF Cabinet
Dear Zach,

I misunderstood a little bit reason for rejection of my article. Rejection letter stated that my article appeared blank, which it shouldn't as I did save the filled form, anyhow, I noticed that below is the comment that reviewer took out external link because it conflicted with guidelines, which is ok. Now I cannot actually understand how reviewer could take out external link if my article was blank?

Sorry I am new to this whole article thing on wiki, thus would like to understand what did I do wrong.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,

Vitalijs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitalijs 1000 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The article is blank. I don't know what happened; it might have been a technical error. Could you try editing the page and placing the content in there? Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 17:11, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Mahnad Al Zaabi
As per your requirements, I have added necessary information on Mahnad Al Zaabi which tell us about how he became notable. I have added a number of refrences too. Will my article be reviewed now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhosniomani20 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Good job! Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 16:59, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

iPhone 5S
Can you allow other longterm editors time to edit sections they added without interupting them please. It's really rude to edit one at a time others work while they are in the middle of doing so. Alos, do not introduce spacing errors, in citations — they lead to spacing issues that then have to be fixed later-on in editing practice. Jimthing (talk) 23:04, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Things can't be left unsourced for too long, especially the middle of an FAC (which is failing, but that's another story). What spacing errors are you referring to? Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 23:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The huge number of single-edits each time on a page make it incredibly difficult for other editors also on the page to re-incorporate their edits into yours, or vice-versa, and also makes tracking who screwed-up a page (e.g. for edit reversions) a lot more difficult. Re. cite spacing: there is no need to leave spaces around citation markup, as it needlessly adds page data size, but more importantly creates false line breaks, which are likely to appear wrongly or need fixing later, when later edits are made to the page, thus are an unnecessary editing practice. Sometimes spacing may appear to look strange during your particular edit, but they cause less issues than adding needless spacing into citations. It's a minor thing many editors don't realise. Thanks. Jimthing (talk) 23:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Couldn't you just use the (prev) function to reincorporate changes? Making minor single-edits is just a style that some editors use. As for citation spacing, I didn't realize that was occurring. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 23:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, but prev function cannot be used where text has been moved about on page in the course of a users' edit, and many other reasons. Sure everyone has their own style of editing, but doing 50 or so tiny edits in a short space of time is not helpful for background site usage reasons, and is highly annoying for other editors also trying to add additional data to the page. Users have access to section edit buttons (so one section can be dealt with in it's entirety) for this very reason. And also the 'preview' button, which should be used to check markup works BEFORE submitting anyway to make sure it is correctly done first time on submission, instead of constantly hitting 'save' in-between tiny edits each time. As previous mentioned; it's clearer to see several changes on a single edit in page history, rather then having to check through hundreds and hundreds of small edits, in order to deal with various issues. It's also bad form, as many trite users use this to make their "edit volume" look artificially high, as they may do say 10 thousand edits on WP over a year, while a really good editor who knows what they are doing and takes time to make deep edits only has a fraction of this amount — why we have the "depth" stat measurement. Jimthing (talk) 00:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Do 10,000 edits really make a difference on 653,022,782? People who edit differently than you aren't inherently bad editors, they just place content differently. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 00:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't say they were "bad editors"—many add good info, as I know you do—but as I clearly explained, it's rather that those editors do not realise how their editing behaviour affects other users trying to edit around them. As well as how the site functions in the background generally (page loading times, overall server load, etc.), which often contributes to site slow downs and page fails. The preview button exists for a reason, as does the section edit button: to help stop these issues by encouraging more effective editor behaviour. Jimthing (talk) 02:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Re-explaining the OS on every model
Why doesn't every Android phone article do that too? ViperSnake151  Talk  05:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know. The editors just didn't add it. Zach Vega  ( talk to me ) 11:05, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank You Zach
Thank you Zach for your help on the Clinton Street Run page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RatsEivom (talk • contribs) 16:46, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Notice
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Hasteur, AFC, and "I didn't hear that". Thank you. Hasteur (talk) 18:21, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Frenchton sources
I noticed you approved Frenchton in the AfC process. I wanted to let you know something i observed - Both sources in the article are user-submitted and unreliable; Dog Breed Info especially is not a reliable source. The breed doesn't seem to have any sort of notability outside of those sites; googling it doesn't turn up recognition by anything. The issue was brought up to WP:DOG here. -- T K K ! bark with me if you're my dog! 05:53, 5 October 2013 (UTC)