User talk:Zachaliath

March 2022
Hello Zachaliath. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Tim Gorman, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Zachaliath. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DanCherek (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi DanCherek,
 * Thank you for your message, I was wondering why my edits were being kicked back. I am not being paid directly or indirectly by the impact these edits may or may not have for Tim Gorman. I am a family friend of Tim who has in recent years battled, overcome and still battles a rare type of blood cancer. I offered him my unpaid help to add his updated information from his official website to his wikipedia page. Please allow these edits to be added as I am not doing what you are accusing me of, only helping a senior friend with a technological need.
 * Thank you,
 * Zachaliath Zachaliath (talk) 01:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying and I am sorry to hear about his battle. Your friendship with him still constitutes a conflict of interest, and it is still strongly recommended that you propose changes on the article's talk page instead of editing it directly. Unfortunately, we can't include previously published text lifted from his website without verification from the copyright holder that it is compatibly licensed, but the biography is written rather promotionally and so it's not appropriate for Wikipedia anyway. DanCherek (talk) 01:23, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi again,
 * Tim owns the copyright to this website and information listed so I can work trough that if needed. A little confusing and very subjective that Tim's bio is being labeled as promotional and unacceptable by Wikipedia (or you?) when a quick wiki search of Lady Gaga has a paragraph in her bio that reads below:
 * "Having sold 124 million records as of 2014, Gaga is one of the world's best-selling music artists and the only female artist to achieve four singles that sold at least 10 million copies globally. Her accolades include 12 Grammy Awards, 18 MTV Video Music Awards, 16 Guinness World Records, awards from the Songwriters Hall of Fame and the Council of Fashion Designers of America, and recognition as Billboard's Artist of the Year (2010) and Woman of the Year (2015). She has also been included in several Forbes' power rankings and ranked fourth on VH1's Greatest Women in Music (2012). Time magazine named her one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2010 and 2019 and placed her on their All-Time 100 Fashion Icons list. Her philanthropy and activism focus on mental health awareness and LGBT rights; in 2012, she founded the Born This Way Foundation, a non-profit organization aiming to empower youth, improve mental health, and prevent bullying. Gaga's business ventures include Haus Laboratories, a vegan cosmetics brand that launched in 2019."
 * Does this sound less promotional to you than Tim's bio? Maybe some of this wikipedia "power" is getting to your head... In any case I can suggest these updates to Tim's career and life to the Talk Page. As a gatekeeper, what is your role in taking Tim's website and sourcing what you see as acceptable over to Tim's wiki page to have it current and updated? Can you begin that process?
 * Zach Zachaliath (talk) 01:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)