User talk:Zackmann08/Archive 5

Help on Unidesk Article Deletion
Hello, I saw that you marked the article I submitted on Unidesk for Speedy Deletion. I am a new Wikipedia author and I am confused by this. I visited numerous US software company articles - Veeam, VMware, Citrix, EqualLogic, Autodesk, Nutanix, to name a few - to see how they were written, and I patterned the Unidesk article after them, including many more references from reputable sources such as industry analysts Gartner and IDC and respected publications such as Inc., Fortune, and Wall Street Journal. The article was very factual and documented the Unidesk history and recent acquisition by Citrix Systems.

Can you please explain why the article was deleted, how it is different from the many other software companies that are documented in Wikipedia, and what changes I need to make to repost the article? Unidesk is used by more than 1,400 companies around the world and raised $47M in venture capital prior to its acquisition by Citrix. It is an important technology company that is universally recognized for inventing a new method of delivering Windows applications, its technology will now be used by millions of people due to the global reach of Citrix, and its history should be recorded.

Thank you, Tom Rose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomroseboston (talk • contribs) 13:31, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There's a sandbox version of the page at User:Tomroseboston/sandbox. Primefac (talk) 14:18, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Elizabeth Crowley article
Hi Zack, thanks for your thanks and your edits at that page. Unfortunately the user is back, and is using a mobile IP, 2604:2000:69D3:B00:D073:7D81:9C45:27AF, now that they are blocked 48 hours, without trying to claim they are someone else, i.e. not a duck. This is even more disturbing as it indicates they don't understand the purposes of their block at all. I'm wondering if you could take a look at the page or at the SPI I started (as a formality) or the still extant noticeboard and weigh in or act if you choose. I don't want to be the only one seemingly witch-hunting the user, but do want my concerns with undue weight on the article addressed. Thanks! JesseRafe (talk) 18:14, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I hate people sometimes... Keep me posted and let me know if I can be helpful. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, hope this is over soon, appreciate your quick action. Always so much formulaic things to do when issues like this crop up. JesseRafe (talk) 18:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * page is protected now. That should help. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I like how much quicker than went than the first ANI... Cheers, JesseRafe (talk) 18:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Infobox basketball season
I saw you closed the TFD for infobox basketball season et al. I relisted the template because I felt more input into the merge all/merge one issue was necessary. While I won't revert your edit, I ask that you consider re-opening it to allow for more input. As an additional note, generally discussions aren't closed early unless they're CSD'd or it's overwhelmingly obvious what should be done. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 02:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * fair enough. Go ahead and revert it. :-) -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * upon further review I really shouldn't have brought that to TFD to being with... infobox basketball season was literally a 99% duplicate of infobox sports season. The only difference was that it added a 4th conference and hardcoded the param. I've merged them all together and checked each transclusion. If an issue is raised it can always be reverted. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:10, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Thank you for your good work, merging redundant infoboxes. Please could you take a look at the backlog in the various sections of Templates for discussion/Holding cell? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * *curls up in a ball and cries* That page is on my radar and I will make those a priority. Thanks!! -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:58, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. If you think that's bad, there are plenty more that need revisiting. For example: Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015 February 19, Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_January_31 and Templates for discussion/Log/2015 January 22. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 01:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ...and the various templates listed in Templates for discussion/Log/2015 March 22. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:19, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Destruction of contributions
This bot destroyed months of work to add U.S. certifications to older articles which had no other notation of their status. Thanks a lot. It looks like input for the decision to remove the parameter across the board in all articles was solicited primarily from editors who are focused on 21st century music which already included international certification boxes. Hundreds of certifications are now missing from many song articles as a result of this bot. Content should not have been destroyed in infoboxes without replacing it! - JGabbard (talk) 13:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , from the BRFA it appears that the conversation happened in multiple places, with overwhelming (unanimous?) consensus, and the removal of the information as a result of getting rid of the parameter discussed a few times (including the BRFA). The certification information can still be found by looking at the history (just find the edit where Certification was removed). It's rather unfortunate that this is coming up after the bot has finished editing, but it's not like the information can never be retrieved. Primefac (talk) 13:18, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, . I found only one conversation on the topic, so I appreciate the additional information. It is good to see that some consideration of this issue was made.  However, the resulting effect of the removal of the parameter is that in song articles where certification boxes are absent, the reader can no longer take note of platinum/gold/silver status at a glance without sifting through the text.  Also, while in most articles the status is mentioned in the body, the prose is at times unclear or ambiguous as to which nation granted the certification. In-line citations in such articles are hit and miss as well, as references were in some cases eliminated from the infoboxes along with the parameter itself. Having to delve into an article's history to determine its status (or lack thereof) is certainly not the answer. I suggest that whosever idea it was to eliminate the parameter should also be willing to rectify all of these resulting issues, preferably by providing such articles with certification boxes. Doing so will not only repair collateral damage, but would also provide consistency of appearance of all song articles which have obtained special status. - JGabbard (talk) 15:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * your incredibly sarcastic tone and lack of WP:AGF makes me not the least bit interested in working with you. I was not involved in the decision to remove the information. That decision was made with overwhelming, nearly unanimous support. I merely executed the bot that was requested. Feel free to take your issue up on the template page. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , I did not intend to come across sarcastically, sorry for that. My issue is not with the removal of the parameter itself, only the seemingly (from my perspective) careless manner with which it was executed. That appears to be your department. - JGabbard (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * statements like "This bot destroyed months of work to add U.S. certifications to older articles which had no other notation of their status. Thanks a lot." are clearly sarcastic. So don't act like that wasn't your intention. Again, it was not "my department". I executed code that was decided upon by others. Bring up your issues there, not here. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've raised a suggestion here, in the hope that this sort of issue can be avoided in the future. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * much appreciated. Thanks. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:41, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Seidel Abel Boanerges
HI Zackmann08, thank you for the suggestion you gave on my page. I shall note them. I see that you agreed my page to be deleted. Can I ask someone else to create this page then? How do I go about that?

Thanks Regularupdates (talk) 18:54, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Good
Template:Infobox German railway vehicle etcetera is very complicated, as we know. (As in: multiple influences). I still think it can be solved, along your line of thought (and so, in steps!). However, it will take time. Let's add patience (says who?). I'm with you in the overall idea. -DePiep (talk) 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox cricket tour
Hi Zack. Your recent-ish edits to this template broke some of the parameters. For example, the team captain one wasn't showing on articles after your change (such as this). I've reverted it for now, but if you can fix it, please change it back. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 11:36, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello Zackmann08
I am new to Wikipedia editing so please bear with me...

I am currently sitting next to Chris Liddell and I am editing his page as per his instructions.

Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

Regards,

George — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeLiddell (talk • contribs) 20:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure where to start. You are removing sourced material and deleting categories from the page. When I tried to explain that to you by leaving messages on your page you just repeatedly undid my changes. The fact that you are sitting next to Chris Liddell only further demonstrates your Conflict of interest. Please read the contents of that link. Please also read Verifiability, not truth. If you continue to edit the page without reading this material and ignoring the multiple warnings that have been given to you, your account will be blocked by an administrator. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@Zackmann08 Yes, I have seen the message now. If I leave all of the existing reference links in place, and only rewrite/reorder the sentences without adding new information - would that be okay? The only addition that I would like to add is an updated photo - is that okay too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeLiddell (talk • contribs) 20:53, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * if you add material it must be cited. You also cannot use the page to promote the subject. Adding a photo would be alright. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@Zackmann08 Thanks for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeLiddell (talk • contribs) 20:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I have added more references where you have left comments, hopefully these are sufficient. I have also removed the irrelevant promotional content. What else should do you think I should edit in order for the page to survive deletion? GeorgeLiddell (talk) 23:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Help on article deletion
I'm sorry to bother you.

I am new to Wikipedia editing,so please give me some help.Recently,I am revising the page of Gavriel Salvendy according to your suggestions.But This page has been deleted.The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. In this regard, I have two questions need your answer:
 * 06:14, 4 January 2017 Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs) deleted page Gavriel Salvendy (Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria G11, G12. Source URL: http://www.ie.tsinghua.edu.cn/salvendy/)
 * 1.Was the page deleted only because of this site(http://www.ie.tsinghua.edu.cn/salvendy/)? Are there other reasons?
 * 2.Can this page recover?

Please tell me what should i do?
 * , the page was deleted for being a copyright violation; content on Wikipedia must be written in the users own words. Given that there were multiple instances of copyrighted material being removed, I am disinclined to undelete the page, even if it is back to the draft space. I suggest you start over at Draft:Gavriel Salvendy. Primefac (talk) 14:04, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Infobox situation
Hey, my mistake as im new to this and tried to make it look better. Is it correct now?

Thanks so much for the information on adding images! I'm learning more every time I make a contribution. I really appreciate the expertise of more experienced users! Nerdgirl33 (talk) 18:37, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Anglican province
Hi, with your work on Template:Infobox Anglican province you have left one link to a disambiguation page in there. But as I am too unfamiliar with the code used, I stay away from it instead of trying to fix it. Could you please take care of the link to Church? The Banner talk 12:13, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * looks like already took care of it. Thanks to both of you! Sorry for the mistake. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:38, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed is fixed. Thanks for the attention. The Banner talk 21:56, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

18-JAN-2017
NaveenNkadalaveni (talk) 07:59, 18 January 2017 (UTC)NaveenNkadalaveni Hi,

Regarding Uttarakaanda wiki page. Since i'm new here i have directly copy pasted some of the sentence from source article. I was not aware of this copy right act. Now i have changed it properly. since the content of that is same across all news papers i have just changed the form of expressing that content. Please let me know in case of any concerns. Thank you for your help. Please do not delete this page. That part of the text is free from copy right since that is universal truth fact.

++In addition to this i could see That News paper website itself copied some of the sentences from existing Wikipedia page Parva (novel), Please check. This Parva (novel) page was created earlier than this website article. In case of any concerns pls leave a massage on my talk page. Thanks for your help :)

Regards, NaveenNkadalaveni

Tropical Cyclone Infoboxes
Hey man, in the future please note that the tropical cyclone infoboxes template reads maximum sustained winds in knots, not mph. I'm in the process of fixing the revisions. Just thought I'd give you a head's up. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 19:12, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for catching that. What confused me is that the template doesn't display knots at any point. Only mph and km/h. :-\ -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * can you also weigh in on the conversion to using Infobox for that template? -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Autobox24
Hello Zackmann08. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Autobox24, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: clearly claims significance and not unambigous advertising. Thank you.  So Why  21:49, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Current wildfire listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Current wildfire. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Current wildfire redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 21:41, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox order
Hello Zackmann08, I just noticed that you had made a revision to Template:Infobox order on December 19 here. That revision has changed the way that two of the fields display by effectively making those two fields mandatory, whereas they used to be optional before. Specifically, the "awarded_by" and "country" fields only used to display themselves in the infobox if data was entered into those fields. However, after your revision, those two fields now display in the infobox even if no data is entered into either field. The problem is that the Wikipedia articles that use "Template:Infobox order" generally only use one of those two fields, and some Wikipedia articles that use that infobox do not use either of those fields. The result is that there are now lots of Wikipedia articles about orders that display "Awarded by" and "Award of" in the infobox, but there is data in only one or in none of those two fields. For example, if you look at Order of the Holy Spirit, you will see that the infobox displays "Awarded by" on the grey background, even though there is no data in that field. In order to solve this problem, those two fields need to be made optional (as they were before your revision) so that the heading only gets displayed if there is data in that particular field. Since this issue affects every article that uses this template, is there any way that you could possibly correct this? I would greatly appreciate your help, and please post a reply (as soon as you can) and ping me to let me know whether you are able to look into this issue now, or if I should somehow try to correct the template myself. Thanks for your assistance. -- Blairall (talk) 05:12, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that I have fixed this problem. Affected articles may need a WP:NULLEDIT (click Edit, then Save without making any changes). – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:17, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * sorry mate! Been a crazy day... Only just now seeing your message. Great catch. I'm sorry for that mistake. Major props to for jumping right on this! Really appreciate it. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 06:19, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The revision by Jonesey95 seems to have solved this problem, which is great! Thanks for your assistance, and I greatly appreciate your help. -- Blairall (talk) 16:31, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

New Wikiproject!
Hello, Zackmann08! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a new WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox baseball league championship series
This template does NOT include the LDS like it used to. Even though I tried to find a way to put in, I couldn't. Is there a way to put it in to fix the infoboxes that previously had it? Zacchaeusbarbour (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * sorry for the delay. I've been crazy busy the past few days. Let me look into this... -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:17, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * issue should now be resolved. Might require a WP:NULLEDIT to show up... Thank you for bringing this to my attention! -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Tag bombing Philadelphia Bulldogs / Failure to observe WP:BEFORE
I'm not sure what WP:POINT you're trying to make with this edit, tag bombing the page for the Philadelphia Bulldogs. Details regarding the 1994 expansion and Tony Danza are explicitly provided in this source, already in the article. Tony Danza is even mentioned in the quotation cited in the reference within the article. Details regarding ticket sales are listed in this source, helpfully provided at the end of the paragraph. I do acknowledge hat the lack of a source for Bruzer, the lovable bulldog mascot, are needed, but that would hardly appear to be a justification for deletion. There ain't a WP:TROUT big enough for the slap that's needed here. Do you understand policy regarding WP:BEFORE that obligates you to look for sources *before* starting an AfD? Alansohn (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox cycling race report
Just an FYI; the change to a set infobox has caused an issue with the team row of the infobox. I'll use the example of the 2015 Giro d'Italia. Both the team and the teampoints parameters are filled in the infobox text, but only teampoints shows. Craig (talk)  23:43, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for the heads up. Do me a favor and don't make any more changes for a bit. I'm going to look into it right now. Don't want to have edit conflicts. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:47, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. Craig  (talk)  23:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * GREAT catch. Was a pretty weird bug but I got it fixed. If you find any other issues, please let me know. Thanks!!! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:55, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Recent year articles look perfect now (2015 Giro showing both team classifications now), but some older articles such as the 2004 Tour de France (which predates any season-long classifications such as the UCI ProTour, UCI World Tour et al.) are showing, as if the parameter needs to be added to the infobox text, in order for to show as blank i.e. | series             = . Would that not need to be input as {{#if:{{{series|}}} or something along those lines? I must admit templating infoboxes is not my forte!  Craig  (talk)  00:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Another great catch! I've fixed it but let me give you a quick lesson. You CAN use the if syntax... but a much easier solution is just to use the bar `|`. So if you have   (without the bar in series) then if series is not provided you will get the output you saw. However, if you use the bar...   then if series is not supplied it will not display. The bar sets the default. Something you will see a lot in templates is  . What this is saying is "Look for the title param, but if it is empty, then just use {{PAGENAME}} (which is a MAGIC WORD). In our case, we are setting the default to null. Make sense? -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:22, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Makes perfect sense, many thanks for that quick tutorial! Craig  (talk)  00:28, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

{{od}} My pleasure! You ever have questions about templates, feel free to drop me a line. Always happy to help. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Will do, and I shall bear that in mind. Craig  (talk)  00:31, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've made some changes that replicate the how it looked before and if the race had/has no teams. One thing that isn't working is first place, see 1903 Tour de France. Also, did you purposely not set the teams text size as small? BaldBoris 12:47, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Another issue is if a race has no previous or next, the separator still shows. There's still a cache issue 12 hours since my edits. This needs urgent attention, thanks. BaldBoris 01:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've changed the sandbox as the 1903 Tour de France without the link to the next. As can be seen here, the alignment without the jerseys used to be to the far left, but now has it with an empty space. BaldBoris 01:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * {{ping|BaldBoris}} ok. Please re-examine your use of the phrase "urgent attention". The fact that a line shows up in the infobox does not mean it requires urgent attention. This was a rather simple fix that you should have been able to figure out but it has been addressed. -- Zackmann08 ({{sup|Talk to me}}/{{sub| What I been doing }}) 02:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please don't treat me like a fool. "Urgent attention" was referring to the cache problem! The fact that you ignored my initial request to fix first place isn't showing up in 1903 Tour de France (an issue that you have caused) is maybe why I said that. BaldBoris 03:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * {{fixed}} (display of "Winner"). {{U|Zackmann08}}, for complex templates with many transclusions, it is usually best to work only in the sandbox, trying out the sandbox output with a variety of test cases and then trying it in Preview mode in a variety of articles, before deploying changes to the main template. My favorite technique is this:
 * Open the same article in two tabs.
 * Edit the tab on the right, adding "/sandbox" to the template name in question.
 * Click Preview in the tab on the right, then scroll down until the Preview version of the article in the right-hand tab aligns with the saved version of the article in the left-hand tab.
 * Use the shortcut keys in your browser (in mine, it's command-option-right/left arrow) to quickly go back and forth between the two versions, looking for visual differences. I find that this helps me find tiny little differences.
 * If you find a problem, fix it by editing and saving the sandbox (in a third tab), then Preview the right-hand tab again and repeat the process until the articles look the same. Remember to test the sandbox in a variety of articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:02, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * {{ping|Jonesey95}} this isn't my first time... Look at my contribution history. I am also a template editor... I know how to test out templates in a sandbox. This particular template was a disaster. It was horrendously constructed with really poor conditionals. So yes, there were so things that slipped through the cracks. -- Zackmann08 ({{sup|Talk to me}}/{{sub| What I been doing }}) 05:38, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I know it's not your first time making this sort of error; that's why I'm suggesting a better way. Templates that are "disasters" are exactly the best ones to use the above technique on, and infoboxes are particularly easy to test using that technique, since they display all together at the top of the article in a known format.


 * I'm not saying that I'm perfect every time, but too many edits had to be made to this infobox template to get it to where it is now, and many of those problems, like not showing the winner of a race, could easily have been detected with sandbox comparisons or a page of test cases that did not affect mainspace transclusions. You don't have to take my friendly advice, but I think you will find that you get fewer complaints if you do. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

{{od}} {{ping|Jonesey95}} well I appreciate the tips! -- Zackmann08 ({{sup|Talk to me}}/{{sub| What I been doing }}) 05:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * {{ping|Jonesey95}} for what it is worth, your favorite technique is also my favorite... In fact I used it on this template. The problem is that there were some obscure edge cases that broke. -- Zackmann08 ({{sup|Talk to me}}/{{sub| What I been doing }})
 * Yep. Also, one other tip in case you haven't come across it yet. If, despite lots of testing, I really screw up a template (like with a big red error message) and then fix it and want to null-edit all of the articles that transclude it, I use these instructions I wrote for myself. It is impractical and inadvisable for anything over a few hundred transclusions, but it works well in a pinch. I haven't gotten in trouble for acting like a bot yet, but I have occasionally hit an editing rate limit of some sort and been locked out for a while. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:02, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

After Porn Ends 2
Karbonshark is one of the production companies for the film. This page was put up by the company to reference the film. The image is copyrighted by APE2 LLC which covers Karbonshark. Karbonshark (talk) 06:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Still NFL biography infoboxes using highschool parameter
It seems there may be more deprecated parameters out there that the bot missed. Lizard (talk) 21:06, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Most Valuable Player Award (PIHA)
Hello Zackmann08. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Most Valuable Player Award (PIHA), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''just because an article has only red links, it does not mean G8 applies. Please use the appropriate deletion discussion venues.''' Thank you.  So Why  20:39, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * just to be clear, it wasn't just the fact that the article has only red links. It was the fact that these red links were the result of all these pages being recently deleted at WP:AFD. That being said, happy to go the PROD and/or AFD route! Thanks for the note. :-) -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand. But the page itself can exist without the links since the content is not dependent on them. WP:G8 only applies though when the page makes no sense without linking to other pages (like redirects for deleted pages or categories without pages in them). Regards  So Why  22:39, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

And again, I've declined your G8 nominations. The only ways that a template can be speedy deleted are after a TFD (via G6), misrepresentations of policy (T2), or hardcoded instances of other templates (T3). Everything else has to go through TFD. In case you were wondering, adding an "unused" criteria (generally requested as T4) is almost a perennial proposal, though you are welcome to start a discussion at WT:CSD about adding it to the list. Primefac (talk) 14:10, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * you are welcome to that opinion (though since you didn't list a particular page I'm not sure what you are refering to) but I have had over 100 Templates CSDed for a combination of G6-Unused and G8-all pages linked deleted via AFD... To name just a few:
 * Template:1993 RHI Murphy Division standings/doc: CSD G8 (db-g8) 17:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:1993 RHI King Division standings/doc: CSD G8 (db-g8) 17:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:1993 RHI Buss Division standings/doc: CSD G8 (db-g8) 17:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:1993 RHI League standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:PIHA5Neutral: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:14, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:16TeamBracket-PIHA: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:15, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:8TeamBracket-RHI: CSD G6 (db-g6) 17:15, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:16TeamBracket-RHI-reseed: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2003–04 MLRH AAA League standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2009–10 RMCRHA Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:17, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2009–10 WCRHL Junior College standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 17:21, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2013–14 PIHA Pro Western Conference standings/doc: CSD G8 (db-g8) 18:24, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2013–14 PIHA Pro Eastern Conference standings/doc: CSD G8 (db-g8) 18:24, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2011–12 MCRHL Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 18:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2009–10 MCRHL Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 18:26, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:1996 RHI Central Division standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 23:40, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 SECRHL Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 SCHL Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 RMCRHA Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 MCRHL Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 GPCIHL Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 ECRHA Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox NCRHA National Championships: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:49, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2015 National Collegiate Roller Hockey Championships – Division I bracket: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014–15 WCRHL Division I standings: CSD G8 (db-g8) 20:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014 MLRH Super League Eastern Division standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2014 MLRH Super League Western Division standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2012–13 Rocky Mountain Collegiate Roller Hockey Association Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2012–13 Southeastern Collegiate Roller Hockey League Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2012–13 Southwest Collegiate Hockey League Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2012–13 Midwest Collegiate Roller Hockey League Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2012–13 Great Plains Collegiate Inline Hockey League Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:2012–13 Eastern Collegiate Roller Hockey Association Division I standings: multiple criteria (G6, G8) 20:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:Inlinehockeyseries-2periods: CSD G8 (db-redirnone) 20:15, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:59, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Lessons from Articles for deletion/New Jersey Rockin Rollers
Take a look at Articles for deletion/New Jersey Rockin Rollers, which closed as a rather clear "Keep", take a look at the article itself, as well as the nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/New Jersey Rockin Rollers. It's apparent that there were ample sources to be added, and they have been. Please understand that AfD is not a freebie; as a nominator you are obligated by WP:BEFORE to look for sources and to work to retain encyclopedic content. U sincerely hope that you will make the required good-faith effort in the future before nominating any other article. Alansohn (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Moved your AFD
Hi. I'm just letting you know that I took the liberty of expanding your AFD nomination and moving it to a new page: Articles for deletion/Multiple Chaz Dowdell films. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated! I support that 100%! Thanks. :-) -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:38, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * did you happen to look at that user's page recently? Passive aggressive much. Oh well. You definitely took the right approach. Kudos! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:42, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes I saw that. Too bad he left in a huff because the policies were against him. He could have probably been a good contributor if he had chosen a different subject to start with. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:21, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * tis a shame. Maybe they'll come back. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that I accidentally clicked a button on Twinkle while reviewing 's contributions and reverted his comment above. I have restored it and apologize for the trouble. Smartyllama (talk) 19:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2
Hello , We now have New Page Reviewers! Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October. The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work! It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to. Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten. This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody,  and
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 * Abuse
 * 1) this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting  in  a community ban.
 * 2) this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in  a community ban.
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Coordinator election
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CSS styling in templates
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Template:Infobox rugby biography
Hi. The behaviour of this template has changed with the revision of 25 January 2017 (diff here) The bug, as I see it, is now evident on the pages Stuart Berry, Federico Anselmi, Shuhei Kubo, (and others) which are all displaying an empty (and unwanted) ru_position parameter. -- Ham105 (talk) 14:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * , I've fixed the issue, so it should start percolating through the system. Primefac (talk) 14:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * sorry for the issue. It was a complicated template and typos do happen. Thanks for catching the issue. as always, thanks for stalking my page and jumping on that! -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Why the updated ACT page has been deleted?
I've updated the ACT information; I do not understand why it has been delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.B.ACT (talk • contribs) 09:10, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * , you cannot simply copy and paste from somewhere on the internet onto Wikipedia. Everything on Wikipedia needs to be written in the author's own words. This is the reason why your edits were reverted. Primefac (talk) 12:55, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me; however half of the updated page was new content written by myself and for the part similar to the ACT Website, I'm working in this organisation and have of course the agreement to "copy paste" some paragraphs. However, if this reason is not sufficient I will write it differently. Could it be possible to restore my version? I spent a lot of time working on it and it reflects what ACT does (not commercial but just information). — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.B.ACT (talk • contribs) 13:39, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * , the issue here is that, while you have written the content for both locations, the ACT has copyrighted their content, which means we cannot use it here as well. You are welcome to have the ACT donate the text to Wikipedia (follow that link), but until that happens you'll have to write it in your own words.
 * As a minor note, if you are working for/being paid by the ACT, please place the paid template on your userpage to disclose that status in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. Primefac (talk) 13:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Zackmann08
KlearanceKlarence (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2017 (UTC) Thank you Zackmann08 for your insights. Appreciated.

Using ZackBot for Infobox song
Hello Zackmann: If you're up for it, I have a new job for ZackBot. Consensus during a recent RfC was remove to the  parameter from Infobox song. I've gone through couple hundred and none have references or use in the field and the info is nearly always in the article text somewhere – in short, it should be an easier task than removing the Certification from infobox single. (BTW, Category:Pages using Infobox single with deprecated certification parameter is now empty, although I'm still finding empty (unused)  fields in infoboxes.)  As last time, Form would need to be removed from the infobox song code (I've already removed it from the documentation) and a "Category:Pages using ... deprecated form parameter" created. I can start a thread at BOTREQ & follow up at BRFA, etc. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:13, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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Page deleted?
Can you please tell me why my wikipedia page was deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astraontheair (talk • contribs) 05:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Answered at User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus. Primefac (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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New Page Review - Newsletter No.4
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Follow-up on current wildfires of 2017
Hello,, it's been a long while. I know you tried to reach out to me when I first began editing on Wikipedia but I hadn't properly addressed myself to you. A lot of the work you do on here inspired me to work hard on article-creating for this years California fire season. I was wondering if you considered my work on the 2017 California Wildfires as well as the individual-incident articles adequate or not. My goal is to create and maintain a properly informed page of incident information for this year. However, I'm not so sure I'm doing my best-- or if my writing is worth Wikipedia's space. Considering how well you worked on last years incidents, I was hoping you could give me some insight on what I should and shouldn't be doing when writing a proper article. Thank you for reading. --DanEverett45 (talk) 09:00, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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Your pictures uploading instructions
Thank you very much for your instructions vis a vis uploading pictures - of which, I must admit, I am totally ignorant. It has been very useful. Could you kindly let me know how do I construct a gallery of pictures within an article? Thank you again, Dr Sarah Fine (sfine8)Sfine8 (talk) 08:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

FYI
If the article hasn't been deleted yet, it's usually easier to use Template:Salt rather than request protection at RFPP. Get's the same job done, but only involves one other person instead of two. Timothy Joseph Wood 20:20, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks! Much appreciated! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:58, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

FEMA Urban Search and Rescue Task Force
See https://www.fema.gov/task-force-locations -- 28 TFs are listed. Some are quite new, like CA-TF8 in San Diego. I have confirmed the 8 CA TFs, and Indiana, which looked a little dubious. Please have citations if you deviate from the FEMA list, or if you add to the history. Let's not have an edit war. Thank you! Laguna CA (talk) 02:44, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft Review
Hey can you please review the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Zaki_Ameer) and move it to the article space. Then I'll add more materials to it. Thanks

Because I don't how to fix image Wikipedia. Ryan Pikachu (talk) 08:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Mathcad edits
Mathcad is a hybrid CAS / numerical equation solver.

ALthough Creo and Windhcill are by the same company, they solve different problems. Why should they be linked?

Creo: Finite element analysis. Just possible to argue that it is of interest; maybe we should increase te list of FE programs for balance? Windchill: Product Lifecycle Management. Rather harder to explain why this should be linked.

Both of these are already linked through the infobox at the bottom of the page for PTC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendel boy (talk • contribs) 14:16, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:Alpha Phi Alpha articles
For some reason, the changes that you've made to this template include linking to a Zeta Phi Beta Presidents template. I'm not sure why that has been done. A conversion to sidebar shouldn't change where things are linked to, I believe.Naraht (talk) 19:27, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * was a bad copy-and-paste on my part. Fixed it. Thanks!! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:28, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:Zeta Phi Beta articles
I've tried changing the category sort criteria on the Category:Zeta Phi Beta to τ so it won't sort under Z in the category, but I can't figure out how, ideas?Naraht (talk) 21:27, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * it is Cached. Just give it time and it will update. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll check in the morning. (It is about 1800 here)
 * Still not fixed. Ideas?Naraht (talk) 14:21, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for image tips!
Hi Zackmann08,

Thanks for sharing your tips on the proper procedures to include a logo image. I have updated the image as you have suggested.

Thanks again!

-Ricardo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrabago2017 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Colonel Sanders
If the photo isn't added as a thumb, the only thing you see when you pull up his page is the top of his snowy white head and it looks stupid. You then have to click on it to see the whole photo. That doesn't seem right. Clarawolfe (talk) 02:10, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * that is, in fact, wrong. If you had followed the very clear and detailed explanation I left on your page, you would have gotten what it currently looks like. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 03:33, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of Adisa Kabiru
Zackmann08,I am a new user of Wikipedia. I wonder why the article on Mr Adisa Kabiru will be marked for deletion. KIndly advise on what to. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guildanceforever (talk • contribs) 07:12, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Zackman08, no promotion is intended. 12 different references were included to show the notability. The person have done so much in humanitarian services to deserve inclusion in Wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guildanceforever (talk • contribs) 06:31, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Tunku Harun
Hello Zackmann08. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Tunku Harun, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: a member of a notable royal family might be significant themselves, try AFD instead. Thank you.  So Why  15:51, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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Thanks
Ok. Thank you very much such tips. wish you more help in this regard further. Pinakpani (talk) 07:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Ah
Apparently I patrolled the Cerrito thing; I have no recollection of having done so, and may well have misclicked. It's not obviously wrong, so I may well have decided to let it go anyway.

This is not the same as 'reviewed and approved'. DS (talk) 23:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Kovur, Nellore District
Hello,

Kovur is not a village it is the main town you can see on this link.

http://areaprofiler.gov.in/aboutUsIntgeratedPES.do?stateCode=28&lbCode=5729&languageId=1

This is our district official website. ఓయ్ 143 00:42, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the tip. It was my first edit.
 * You betcha! We were all new at one time. I wasn't trying to be critical of you, just trying to help you learn. Best of luck! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

WPDINO
It seems I'll have to take this all to one place to avoid it being moved all across wikipedia, from WT:Teahouse to a friends talk page. I'd like this discussion to end now. I've only been responding with as much negativity as yourself, although it appears to have been jumbled on the talk page of WPDINO because of the speed of your replying and my slowness to edit. You should come to understand a few things first, before I end up having to slog through another heated argument on one of the other templates I edit and monitor.

You come along and add a tag on a template I'm working on to convert the entire thing to a new format. I look and find no policy on this, so I revert and tell you to discuss on the talk page first. At this point I would have no idea that you plan to convert the template yourself, because you just tag it and move on to tag other items. When I bring you back to the talk page you begin to spout that all templates placed on the right of a page should be Sidebar and Infobox, and that the change of format wouldn't affect the look.

At this point I went to the documentation of TL:Sidebar, and I'm looking through for features and parameters. I start out converting, and post the progress on the talk page. It looks nothing like the original template at this point, so I state that (paraphrased) "I strongly doubt this conversion will be worth any amount of my time". It's at this point that you say you will convert it. But I've already gone ahead and found examples of the format I want on other converted templates, on my own, without any direction or help from you or the wiki. So I quickly go into edit and reply that I was wrong and the template looks alright. But wait, you've already gone and added that I'm a "new editor" and need to learn proper manners, and we get in an edit conflict. My comments become garbled in an attempt for me to preserve your replies, so anyone going there now has to look through revisions to see the truth. Saying "there are features I do not want to be changed" is because, the template was specified and agreed upon by the project to look good and act nicely, so I want to keep both the aesthetic and the function. Apparently that means I violated policies? So you go along and claim you were trying to help, and that I can do it on my own and that we need to unify the look, even though the actual visual appearance is supposedly blessed to "look identical" to previously.

After our discussion is done, I see you've visited the Teahouse to ask if theres a policy on using Sidebar over anything else, which means that you didn't know of one. So my entire point of removing your tag because of a lack of policy was completely on point. Then my friend I discuss this affair with comes along to post that no-one will die if it's not converted, which both supports and rejects your point of immediate template conversion. You pop over to his talk page just to thank him for responding to me, because "not sure what that person's (my) deal is ... lol". I can't imagine someone so "experienced" can be so rude and offensive behind my back. I'm seriously considering checking to see what rights you have so I can get them revoked. IJReid discuss 06:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * your tone, lack of WP:AGF and personal attacks result in me having zero interest in conversing with you. I'm sorry if you didn't like my approach. Best of luck in your future endeavors and take care. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * In the wake of last nights tragedy in Las Vegas, I'm trying to focus less on the petty things... Last night you and I had a less than cordial conversation. I think you were off base and you probably think I'm a douche. I think we could both agree that in the light of a new day, that situation could have been handled better. I apologize if my actions or comments upset or offended you. I'm not going to address your comments above, not because I'm ignoring you or blowing you off, but I don't think my going through and defending/rationalizing my actions point by point would be constructive. I apologize for my part in not making that a more cordial exchange. I wish you the very best of luck in your future endeavors here on Wikipedia and if I can ever be of assistance to you, don't hesitate to reach out. Hope you have a great Monday. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:51, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Diving templates
Hi, first thanks for your work to improve sport templates, Can u tell me why you reverted my edits without any explanation ? I always prefer a bit of consistency and in this specific sport, I can't see any reason to divide it into two different sections of individual and synchro cuz they are not two different styles or something like that (for example recurve and compound in Archery) Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:36, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not adding an explanation. Consistency is exactly why I was doing this... DivingAt2008SummerOlympics, DivingAt2012SummerOlympics, DivingAt2016SummerOlympics, DivingAt2014CommonwealthGames, DivingAt2010CommonwealthGames, Diving at the 2011 Pan American Games, Diving at the 2015 Pan American Games, etc. all separate them into 2 sections. In fact the ONLY templates that don't separate them are the ones where you have made that change... -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:41, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for the answer, I think consistency between all Olympics templates for example has higher importance than all Diving templates. beside that I don't think those templates are created carefully. for example this one ModernPentathlonAt2008SummerOlympics has a line events . you can't see such things in other templates. I just used this example to say that those templates are not necessarily perfect. Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * well that template only has 2 events... -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:52, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You think that line is necessary ? if yes, why we don't have that "events" thing in other templates. Synchronized swimming also had only two events. Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:59, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You are comparing 2 different things. If the sport only has 2 events I don't care if the "Events" line is there or not... For a sport with 10 events, that are clearly in 2 separate disciplines, then it makes sense. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm just saying that those Olympic templates are changeable. so you are OK if I change all Diving templates making them look similar but not with two separate parts for individual and synchro events ? Mohsen1248 (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Are u now going to revert all my template edits just because you don't like them ? I really can't see any problem here, I actually made the consistant and fixed several problems they had. you still can see a bit of the mess here. I hope you just let it go. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:07, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * And by the way nothing personal, I like and appreciate the way you improved all these templates, I just think This version looks more similar to this one for example. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:13, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * personally I liked it the other way better, but I think it is time to get off my high horse and let you do your thing. If someone else reverts it, perhaps we can have a more in-depth conversation about which approach is better. I just don't like that the men have 2 columns and aren't clearly defined as being separate from the women, but hey, whatever. :-p Also, thank you for catching and fixing a crap ton my mistakes and typos. Keep up the great work! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:30, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Template changes: mixed event?
Hello Zackmann.

Thanks for making the template changes (to use the sidebar template).

I see that "a" parameters go left and "b" parameters go right, useful for separate columns for men and women respectively, but what if there's a mixed event? Is there a way of getting it center-adjusted?

HandsomeFella (talk) 08:30, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * yes there is! See below... Is there a specific template you are looking at? Let me know and I'll help you out. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:00, 4 October 2017 (UTC)




 * That's good news. But I was rather thinking of another possible problem, involving templates like 2013–14 ISU SS men's 500, where there is (currently) no particular grouping in columns. If you check the article 2013–14 ISU Speed Skating World Cup – World Cup 1 – Men's 500 metres (you may have to refresh or purge the page to see the changed template properly), you'll find that it transcludes the template I just mentioned as well as one of those you have changed. With the help of them, the reader can cross-navigate both between the different events of that competition weekend, and between all competitions over that particular distance over the season.
 * Before, both templates had the same width, which I thought was kind of aesthetically nice ... but not after. Is there a way to obtain that again?
 * Oh, and are the V T E links really necessary, or can they be de-selected? The templates are unlikely to change after the season.
 * HandsomeFella (talk) 21:20, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * oy vei... I think there are a couple of issues here... First I think the whole batch of ISU navboxes needs a revamp... that's just my 2 cents, but they are kind of all over the place. I want ping and get some input from her. She is the real brains behind Sidebar games events Regarding the width issue, I would think it would be fairly easy to add a  to the template/module. I'm not sure that it is necessary, but I do see what you are saying about the aesthetics. Another approach would be to merge these templates. Not sure why there are SO many!!! Basically every event has 2 templates on the page. One shows you all the events at the same city/stop (World Cup 1, World Cup 2, etc), while the other links you to all the other city's that the same event took place in. Here's one idea, what if there was just one sidebar for each worldcup? 2013–14 ISU SS WC1, 2013–14 ISU SS WC2, 2013–14 ISU SS WC3, etc. could all be merged with the separate  being the city. That way all the links were displayed in one navbox? See User:Zackmann08/olympics for a proof of concept (NOT complete). This solution would actually merge all templates in Category:2013–14 ISU Speed Skating World Cup templates into one. No more width issue... What do you think? I've had an insanely long day and will be offline most of tomorrow, but let me know your thoughts on the matter. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:28, 5 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the input. After some experimenting, I found out that you can have the results* parameter without the event* parameter, and that solves it. I'll continue experimenting a little more before I go ahead and make the changes. Btw, are there a way to opt out of using the V T E links? As, I mentioned, the content of the templates rarely changes after the season. Could there be an option to avoid those links (with a default of using them, so it will not affect existing usage of the sidebar games box)? HandsomeFella (talk) 10:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * HandsomeFella, there is a (possibly undocumented) width, and I have added the 'hlist' class for bullets. if you don't add name there will be no v-t-e links (see the documentation: Template:Sidebar games events). Frietjes (talk) 14:10, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for your message in my page. I am new in Wikipedia so.. I will follow what you have suggested. Arunkmahara (talk) 05:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Safety edits
Not sure why the safety additions were removed without explanation. Needed those for a masters class and felt they were completely relevant since there is zero safety or gear information on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrisketBasket (talk • contribs) 21:19, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * so just to be clear here, because of a masters class you are taking you added unsourced material to Wikipedia? -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:16, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

it wasn't unsourced. but I'm not getting into an argument with you on here. Do what you will.

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Please stop!
Hello.

Please stop reverting immediately, or you will be reported.

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Thanks for your comments, Zackmann08. My first page good to have feedback.

Hi
Hi, I would like to thank you earlier but I see that discussion had moved to the archive, I just wanted to be sure you don't mind if I make some small changes on other templates as well, for example I made a small change on Short Track templates, making relay events in one row. Mohsen1248 (talk) 11:03, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks 1000x for the info about pics in the Inbox. I was looking for the formatting info re Infoboxes in the wrong spot. Much appreciated! -- Sam Perkins Sam Perkins (talk) 15:48, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

RE: Thumbs in infobox
My second warning but first noticed. Please keep me posted in future. My intentions are only good and to make this service better.
 * all good. It's all about learning. :-) Please remember to WP:SIGN your post on talk pages. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:11, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

David Oyelowo Profile Picture
Hi Zach,

I work with David Oyelowo. We are trying to change his profile picture. He doesn't like his profile pic that Wiki is currently using. He wants it changed to the one I sent in. Please advise of how I can do this. I have tried through the Commons but it keeps rejecting the photo taken at the AFI Film Festival in 2014.
 * there are a whole list of issues. First of all, you need to read WP:COI. Also you must consult WP:OWN. FInally, regarding the image, you cannot upload an image to wikipedia that you do not have the rights to. The photo taken at the film festival I'm sure you found online and thus you do not have the rights to. If you would like to take a picture of David and upload it, that would be acceptable. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:05, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

OK! just pass by to say thank you and nice to meet you all! :) Looking forward! DanielaBessia

Infobox is not a sidebar
re : no, an infobox is not a navbox (and so: not a sidebar). Please review your other similar edits that have this mistake. Also, you spoiled the style (it was OK before, and so now again).
 * Well, I did take a look and it looks bad. Astonishingly bad. Please review your edits in this. -DePiep (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2017 (UTC) not clarifying nor helpful. So I struck, this late. -DePiep (talk) 22:01, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * is there a reason for the condescending and aggressive tone? I have no problem with you disagree, just don't understand why you needed to approach it that way... -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * not sure what your issue is and why your knee-jerk reaction is to revert an edit without actually doing any investigation. Template:1964 Summer Paralympics IS a sidebar. The fact that it had a  class on it doesn't make it an infobox. Template:2008 Summer Paralympics, Template:2012 Summer Paralympics, Template:2016 Summer Paralympics etc. etc. etc... There isn't a conversation for this. It is just common sense. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:57, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * as for Template:CyclingAt2008SummerParalympicsTimeTrial, again... did you even look at the template? Or just see that it used to have  as a class. The fact that it had that class doesn't make it an infobox. It IS a sidebar/navigational box. All you need to do is look at the other templates in the 2 categories that template is in Category:2008 Summer Paralympics sports navigational boxes & Category:Cycling at the Summer Paralympics navigational boxes. -- Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:01, 28 October 2017 (UTC)


 * See the very first diff here, that caused me being, hmmm, heavily surprised. It caused strange situations I could not understand at first glance. That was me "actually doing any investigation", and you've not objected to that conclusion afaik. From there I looked at some similar edits by you, and I pointed two out. Good to read in the latter cases you did have good reason, but that was not obvious beforehand and as you write here you still have a misunderstanding about the class meaning. In short: when class=infobox it is an infobox, that's how semantics work (same with class=navbox). This is what the section title says. So far this misunderstanding does not lead to issues wrt the two reverts you made in Olympics, but should not be applied to the first case. -DePiep (talk) 09:47, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:Infobox windstorm small
Hi:

I have made some tries to input a "track" image option in this infobox in order to add an image of the track, only when available, at the bottom. I used a similar line as the one you used for the main image but it did not work. Could you help me on that?

Pierre cb (talk) 17:17, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * try that. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:32, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried it on Storm Herwart and nothing showed, unless it takes time for Wiki to incorporate the change to the infobox. I will check later to see if is appear. I work, I had used the wrong parameter before. Pierre cb (talk) 14:26, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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