User talk:Zagalejo/Archive 2

Michael Jordan
I noticed you stop commenting on the FAC. Quadzilla99 and some other editors such as Abecadare and Warhol (who both copyedited it thoroughly) addressed pretty much every concern there, maybe you can check it out. I'm saying this because I looked at the article today and it's changed radically in the last couple of days and the objectors aren't responding anymore. I'd figure I'd leave you a message since you at least seemed reasonable. Pretty much everything people have complained about is out. Sandy has since changed her vote. I really don't see how people can continue to oppose. Aaron Bowen 00:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Jordan FAC
The Michael Jordan FAC has been re-listed (which was probably a good idea). Thought you'd like to know, here's a quick link. Quadzilla99 17:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons "Plots"
Hi, I took a stab at a complete rewrite of the "Plots" section in the article The Simpsons. I would like to get your comment on it. It is placed in my user space (see User:Maitch/draft2). Basically, it only has to be an overview and should be kept short, so we can't mention everything. --Maitch 20:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. I have eliminated most of the redudant material and renamed the section "Themes". Although the title doesn't fit a 100%, it is better than "Plots". I have now copied my rewrite into the article. I know that I'm not a good copyeditor, so if you could look it over I would appreciate it. Do you think anything is missing now?
 * Btw. Cape Feare is also a FA and Homer's Enemy is in FAC right now. --Maitch 10:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The reason why I don't mention any examples is that I know how it will affect the article in the long run. Let's say you add one example. Then a noob comes along and adds another one. This continues until you end up with a section like the former "Plots" section. In general, I really don't want to be that specific, because this article is basically an overview article. Specifics go into the sub articles. --Maitch 21:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The quote from Matt Groening was in the article before, but I deleted it, because of redundancy. I could move it into the "Themes" section and try and rearrange something, but I think it will be difficult to find primary sources for everything. Another thing is that Wikipedia articles should rely on reliable, published secondary sources wherever possible. Turner is a journalist and says in the beginning of the book that he has done a great deal of research. I know that he sometimes sounds a bit opinionated, so it is hard to figure out if something like this comes from his own mind or from interviews and articles. I could perhaps write that some of the core writing crew comes from SNL and Late Night and find a source for it, but I think that is as far as we can go. --Maitch 20:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You raise some good points. I would say that the pace of The Simpsons is quite high. I'm not sure whether it is a high as Looney Tunes. I just wanted to say the pace is quite high, but come to think of it, it is covered with "dense writing" later on, so we don't really need and it is now removed. I have also inserted the old quote into the "Themes" section and made some minor adjustments. --Maitch 08:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I found this reference, which can be used as a primary source for Rocky & Bullwinkle. I've been doing some research and I don't think it is possible to find primary sources for the rest. --Maitch 20:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The nihilism ref was a mistake I made while fixing some other problem. It is on the next page and it is a direct quote from Al Jean.
 * I don't like the first sentence with a complete quote from Turner. I would paraphrase it. It also uses a few peacock terms, which should be avoided. --Maitch 14:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Another thing is that you don't have to write "Turner writes/notes/says" all the time. That is what references are for. I would remove the last one of those as it is fairly uncontroversial. --Maitch 14:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * We must remember that this is an encyclopedia and not a research paper. --Maitch 20:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * ...but if you wrote the same article for Britannica, you would not use that style. --Maitch 20:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Loyola Academy
Yes, yes, you're quite right. I guess I was caught up in putting back my edits that somebody was deleting as vandalism. Speciate 05:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Donald Stephens
Thanks for your help on Donald Stephens! Kelly Martin (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Toronto Raptors
The Toronto Raptors article has since undergone revamp with contributions from various editors, any additional feedback regarding the FAC nom would be most welcome, thanks. Chensiyuan 14:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Chicagoland
I deleted that controversial part of that first sentence when I split off the census part of the Chicagoland article to its own page. There is one (ONE) anon user who has it in for my attempts to distinguish the poorly defined Chicagoland term from the Bureau of the Census (and hence more encyclopedic) type of page. He does not understand that many people don't like the term Chicagoland, and people from, for example, Michigan City IN, Kenosha WI, and Rockford IL don't consider their towns to be in Chicagoland. My effort is to please everyone, allowing wikipedia users the confidence of a clearly and scientifically defined metro area page AND an informal Chicagoland page. Speciate 22:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Landmark Stubification
I noticed that you have edited Chicago Landmark this week. This week, we are focussing on stubifying the numerous redlinks with a goal of getting over half the redlinks stubified (we began with about 25%). This will improve our chance of getting it approved as a featured list candidate. When reviewing this week's new stub contributing editors your name was absent. You may want to choose a redlink or two from Chicago Landmark and create a stub before this week's project ends so that you can be a part of our drive for featured list status. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I will merge today. WP:CHICOTW ends at midnight (UTC) tomorrow.  You have just over a day left to make roll call. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

CHICOTW
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Marcus Jordan
I don't have access to it either, but the summary says:"Illinois High School expert Daniel Poneman of IllinoisHSBasketball.com, and Rivals.com writer, has confirmed that Marcus Jordan will be transferring from Loyola Academy to Whitney Young High School." If you want to you can just re-word it and say "reportedly", that's what it says in the Trib article it depends how reliable you think rivals.com is. Maybe reportedly is best until it's officially announced anyway. Quadzilla99 16:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Landmark Stubification
I am writing you because you either (1) edited Chicago Landmark 5 weeks ago when it was the WP:CHICOTW (2) edited it or created a stub last week when we had the stubification drive for it or (3) you nominated an article to be the CHICOTW in the last few days.

I have finally had a chance to take a tally on last week’s stubification effort. Based on my manual count we now have 109 bluelinks on a total of 241 landmarks. Preliminary indications were that for our article to be successful at WP:FLC we would need to eventually rename it (something like List of Chicago Landmarks) and get the majority of the landmarks linked. Based on my cursory count we need to write 12 more articles to get to a majority. It would be great if you might be able to assist by creating a couple stubs to assist in this effort. Here are some of the stubs that were created during last week’s efforts: Black Metropolis-Bronzeville District, Historic Michigan Boulevard District, Arthur H. Compton House & One North LaSalle. Among the articles still redlinked are 2 buildings on this week’s CHICOTW, Magnificent Mile (Perkins, Fellows & Hamilton Office and Studio, Woman's Athletic Club). Recall that each redlink on Chicago Landmark has a footnote to a reference that gives you enough info to create a stub. If you create a new stub please add it to WikiProject_Chicago so that we can keep track of the progress. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Gondola spider
Thanks for the heads up. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 20:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Landmark WP:FLC
You helped us at WP:CHICOTW create and improve List of Chicago Landmarks. This week we have nominated it at Featured list candidates/List of Chicago Landmarks. Feel free to make comments about its candidacy or to come by and help respond to the comments of others. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

WPChi falling on its face?
I hope you have been following along at Featured_list_candidates. If you have, then you may have noticed that the only drawback that seems to have emerged is the number of redlinks in the list. If you check in at WP:WIAFL this should not be a surprise. There is nothing much else really to complain about, IMO. I have said from the initial CHICOTW nomination. Unfortunately, once we worked on the page we found preponderant redlinks. I have always known this would be a problem and asked for help creating stubs. You may recall I encouraged us to spend an [Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chicago/COTW/History/CLstubification entire extra week creating stubs]. This still fell short of getting the majority of articles linked. I continued to suggest that we attempt to create stubs. This whole effort six weeks ago seems to have brought down WP:CHICOTW. Since this attempt to get people to create redlinks for a budding WP:FL people have stopped participating in the CHICOTW. This week marks the fifth week in a row that there has been no significant editorial contribution during the CHICOTW. I would say I am afraid to lose CHIICOTW support by mentioning this, but since NO ONE has come by to help this week, it could not get any worse. If anyone cares about getting an FL at CHICOTW for our past efforts it might be a good idea to express such concern by creating 5 or so stubs from among the redlinks at List_of_Chicago_Landmarks. Since I have already created about 3 dozen I have mentioned on the discussion that I am standing pat with my contribution to this concern. However, if any of you cares, feel free to make some stubs. The 20 minute stub instructions are still available. If you create any such stubs list them at WikiProject_Chicago so that everyone can help you to clean it up. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What is your Ft. King question? TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The person to ask about NRHP stuff is User:Elkman. He is very efficient in reply and very thorough in explaining what is going on.  If that does not work there is a whole WikiProject for NRHP stuff at WP:NRHP.  I will put in a query to Elkman right now. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

More help needed
If you have been following along at WP:FLC you know we need help creating stubs for the List to make it a more useful list and help it achieve WP:FLC status. Since I reminded people of this 7 stubs have been created. We need about 40 more to be safe although we may have a successful candidacy with the article as it stands.

Some of you may also be following the success of WP:CHICOTW at WikiProject Chicago/COTW/Good Articles. For the last 4 weeks no one has been very active. Thus, I am fearful that Historic Michigan Boulevard District, Harold Washington Cultural Center, Crown Fountain, & Art Institute of Chicago Building will all fail at WP:GAC when their turns come up. Also, Magnificent Mile did not experience the collaborative spirit. Our reputation as a successful collaboration is at stake. In addition to making stubs for the FLC we need your contribution to our collaborations. I am sorry to pull you away from whatever other wikipleasures you may be experiencing, but we need your help. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

List of Chicago Landmarks FL promotion
Thanks for being among the core group of individual wikipedians who helped List of Chicago Landmarks achieve WP:FL status. You may with to add the following userbox to your userpage --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

List of Chicago Landmarks Template concerns
You may have noticed I made several templates for List of Chicago Landmarks. I am looking for suggestions on additional templates. One I am considering is a Transportation template with Chicago Harbor Lighthouse, Cortland Street Drawbridge, Dearborn Street Station, Garfield Boulevard "L" Station and Overpass, LaSalle Street Cable Car Powerhouse, Michigan Avenue Bridge, & Union Station. Let me know what you think of this one and how you think some of the other listings might be grouped if you have a chance.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Michael Pfleger
You have a really good start to Michael Pfleger. It looks like the kind of article that if you put it through WP:PR and WP:BIOPR where they would tell you to do minor things like beef up the WP:LEAD and then submitted it to WP:GAC it might be successful. If you put it through PR and don't at least get an automated PR let me know.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

New Categories
I noticed you added Category:Art Institute of Chicago, Category:Paintings of the Art Institute of Chicago. In order for the Chicago bot to identify new and newly promoted articles in these categories, it needs to know about them. Add any new Chicago categories WikiProject_Chicago/Bot_Category_List. Also, notify other project members by adding them at WikiProject_Chicago. You could also notify me on my talk page and I will do both for you if you like.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Re
You mean Homer's Phobia? And no concerns at all, good job. Gran2 19:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I just thought it sounded no where near as good, if there is a problem with would again centre, then change that back. But I think the dates are unecessary and in my view actually ruin the visual look of the page (strange I know). If people want to now the dates, they can click the link to the article page. Gran2 21:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it means that no one understood the title. Gran2 22:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons commentary
I noticed your comment at Talk:Homer's Phobia. I was wondering if you had the DVD commentaries for season 7; I need someone to check a fact about "Homerpalooza". 17Drew 04:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, there's a sentence in the Homerpalooza article that states Eric Stefani added the members of No Doubt into a scene, and it was later referenced to the DVD commentary. I copied that over to the No Doubt article, and it was changed today by Eric Keyes (who is indeed a friend of the band).  I'm trying to figure out if someone misunderstood Eric to mean Eric Stefani instead of Eric Keyes, but I don't have access to the reference, so I can't verify anything.  Would you mind checking what the commentary actually says?  17Drew 05:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks for your help. 17Drew 22:21, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Removing the tag
When you removed the deletion tag you inadvertently re-added uncited information that had been deleted previously. Please be more careful in the future. Thanks.Hoponpop69 05:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Smile


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Cubs and Woo Woo
Hello. Thanks for letting me know the reasons for your edits and thanks for EDITING and not UNDOing the changes. I disagree that you feel some things are dubious, but that just means we disagree. I feel the unusaul events section is quite relavent. It is difficult, however, to source a radio conversation, but I will leave a link to the Score's website and the ballhawks site and keep out some of the minor details. The Bartman quote in 2003 section of Cubs was already there, the original author, however, added a fake name to the real one. I just fixed that, but I am kinda in agreement that the quote is not really necessary. As far as Santo, you are right, he's not a HOFer, I didnt realize that the sentence said Hall of Famers, but I still feel he deserves mention. Maybe all those years of Chip Caray calling Santo a future HOFer confused me for a sec. As far as Woo Woo, I need to know which facts you had a problem with.... or which you wanted sourced. As you know its impossible to source everythig, and I do my best not to present unsourced info as fact, rather to present them as allegations.... for example Woo Woo was kicked out of Wrigley for the hula hoop incident, it was discussed on Stern. Thanks again for your diplomacy, I am sure we can work out a mutually agreeable page. Go Cubs!!!!

WJM

Tony Accardo and Loyola Academy
Hmm, I cannot seem to find anything about him and Loyola. Also, I see you removed something about about the Statue of Saint Ignatius. Do you think he's referring to that statue by the guidance center - near the chapel? -- ShadowJester07 ► Talk 03:10, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the one the students call, "Ma"; the kinda heavy-set lady with the whistle, who always yells across the room in a strange voice? I remember in 2005/2006 Dean Heinz said he would be stepping down from his position, and would be replaced by someone with the last name of 'Belmont'. However, the 2007 year book lists him as the current 'Dean of Student Life'. I'll change the field. -- ShadowJester07 ► Talk 09:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, she must be legendary or something. :-p -- ShadowJester07 ► Talk 18:07, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons
As you may or may not have noticed, The Simpsons is an FAC and at the moment, it has overwhelming support and SandyGeorgia, who strongly opposed it's last FAC, has looked over the page and hasn't opposed it, which means she approves. However, since you were the main reason the page was delisted, I figured I should get you to take a look at the page and make sure the page is brilliant enough. -- Scorpion0422 04:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, she made about a dozen edits to the page a couple days ago, so she has looked it over, and she once told me that if she hasn't left any negative comments, then she doesn't oppose promotion. I haven't seen Tony in the last couple of FACs I've participated in, but he could still show up. -- Scorpion0422 22:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And I have responded to your concerns. -- Scorpion0422 22:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, I have responded to your concerns. -- Scorpion0422 00:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Before you go, would "malevolent" be a good word to use, or is it too strong? -- Scorpion0422 00:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your comments on my talk page. I'm not discouraged, but I appreciate it. Those things will happen from time to time. As for being civil, I don't really see any other way. I think that quite a few of us will agree that there's far too much arguing and pettiness on the site and I won't contribute to that if I can help it. Thanks again. - Nascentatheist 19:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Re
A few hours ago apparently, according to the Featured log. Gran2 18:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep when they're there, Raul has passed them. Gimmebot is just being slow (as usual). It on WP:FA and is no longer on WP:FAC. Gran2 18:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure, I mean no article is ever perfect! Gran2 18:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, the userbox doesn't lie, I'm only 15. Thanks for the praise. Gran2 19:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Westinghouse High School (Chicago)
You created an interesting stub for Westinghouse High School (Chicago). The 4th citation does not support the claim. Can you clean up that reference?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I am curious about the 7 players, especially the 3 named (only one of which includes the high school in his bio article). What is your source for who played for Westinghouse? --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I misread it. Nonetheless, the citation does not back upt the three mentioned and only one of them has it in his bio.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Opinion
Did you have any opinion on which articles should be nominated for consideration in the next set of Category:Top-importance Chicago articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chicago/Assessment? We will need to choose 3 or 4 more soon.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Nominations are open. Please nominate any and all that you feel are appropriate.  Your opinion on current nominees would be appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the nominations. Feel free to state your opinion on all nominees as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons
I can't help but notice that you seem to have an expanded knowledge of The Simpsons and have listened to several DVD commentaries. So, I was wondering if you would be interested in giving the Simpsons WP a hand and possibly helping us get some episode articles promoted. It's not that hard, but it's mainly myself and Gran2 doing active work on the project and some more help would be much appreciated. Thanks for the time, Scorpion0422 21:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's one of the pages that I really think should be improved, so if you want to, then I'll help where I can. There is a drive to get season 1 to FT status, but it's kind of dead and myself and Gran have been working on non-season 1 pages. -- 22:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Meetup
I hope the time and place for the Chicago Meetup are convenient. Your reply would be appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Top importance voting
Let the voting begin (see WikiProject_Chicago/Assessment).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:19, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Reviewed content
I am trying to figure out how to rearrange the WikiProject_Chicago section now that we are finding so many articles that have been WP:FA and WP:GA for a long time. I was thinking about three options.


 * 1) Just include the newly discovered articles in the alphabetical list. (the old way)
 * 2) Include the newly discovered articles both in the alphabetical list and in a separate newly discovered list. (the new way)
 * 3) Rearrange the new articles list to be listed by date the article was promoted within WP:CHICAGO instead of the WP promotion date (see here). What do you think?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

A Streetcar Named Marge
Hi, I recently improved the page and submitted it for GA consideration, but I think the plot section needs work. It is a difficult episode to write a plot for, because you need to convey the episode's main concept - Homer is like Stanley and Marge begins to realize that - and still keep it short. So, I was wondering if you could take a look at it, and make any changes that you feel are necessary. Thanks for the time, Scorpion0422 23:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I prefer to think of them as "Canadianisms". Anyway, myself and Gran are looking for pages that could be potential GAs, and we think Streetcar and Homer at the Bat are the two closest, so if you would be willing to help out, it would be much appreciated. -- Scorpion0422 22:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Water Lilies
Should be ok now. I guess I messed up when I tried to first undo the page-move vandalism. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 05:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Alexander Volkov
First of all, he never played for any Israeli club. I know that because I'm....Israeli. If you want I can tell who did play for Hapoel Holon that season...just kidding. Second, If he would have played for Milan there would have been record for it here:http://195.56.77.208/player/?id=VOL-ALE (as you can see he did play for calabria) and here:http://www.batsweb.org/Sport/Basket/Campionato/form1996.htm and there isn't. third and last, he did play for CSKA, but only for one season as you can see here http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ru_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cskabasket.com%2fclub%2f%3fa%3d1985-2002 and builder kiev which still exists today, present day named budivlevnik kiev and BC kiev which he help establish are two different teams. he started his career at the first (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ru_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.budivelnik.kiev.ua%2fist_7.php) and ended at the latter (http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=UKR&PlayerID=37218) I have no Idea where he played in 1996 to 2000. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArnoldPettybone (talk • contribs) 23:52, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Carmelo Anthony
No. Photo is from Ned Dishman. I have contacted him. The only thing i need to do is attribute the image to him. Of course, when i receive a mail back and there's a dispute or something the image will be removed from the page and deleted at once. Many thanks.YahooPix 20:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Like i told you. I've contacted the copyright owner. Will there still be a problem if there's no concern from him? YahooPix 20:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Notability (sports)
I invite you to participate in the discussion of this proposed guideline, right now there is an agruement on the notabilty of NBA Developmental League and Continusonal (spelling) Basketball League players, should one game indicate notabilty, or a whole season, or if they won an all-star or major award. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 04:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting edits removed from article histories
The place to go for that is WP:RFO, although you have to do it by email and sort of get the Foundation to agree with you (I think they might), because Oakley himself hasn't requested it. Daniel Case 04:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Jack McCallum
Go ahead, the old page was an attack page about a different person. --Coredesat 23:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

A Streetcar Named Marge
I think the page is looking very good, do you think it might be ready for an FA run, or should we do a peer review first? -- Scorpion0422 23:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Re.:Misc.Ref Desk:Re.Paranormal and Weapons Use
Got one. It is hdbrp.com/Shooting%20Cases.htm - Louisiana Police, hunters shoot Bigfoot. Place response on Misc. Ref Desk. 205.240.146.131 03:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This may help. Found some contact info. That is "Research@hdbrp.com". 205.240.146.131 18:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Really do appreciate the assisstance. Someone else could've asked the same and/or a similar question, and be really nasty about it. 205.240.146.131 18:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Spanoulis
I don't think it should be deleted, if indeed ment is is the Greek first league, don't remember if this the case right know. He's not an amateur, he plays for a top division team in Greece. maybe the user Sthenel can assist you more, I'm tyed up with eurobasket articles right now. --ArnoldPettybone 02:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * What I could do was a cleanup. I don't have any information. - Sthenel 11:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Smarte Carte
Like I said in the article's talk page, I am not trying to attack the company. These citations could be put to good use in the article, which is not well written as it could be! Mrs.EasterBunny 20:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Are we ready to go?
I think we've added everything we can. I've scoured the internet for more sources and have done google searches of every news/media site I could think of with little luck. It could still use a little polishing, but we can nom it now and fix it as we go along. We likely won't get any peer reviews, besides, an FAC is the best peer review out there. So if you approve, I'll nominate it.

By the way, your help has been VERY much appreciated. All of our other Simpsons FACs (except The Simpsons) have pretty much been efforts by one person, but in this case having three people do the work has worked very well. If your interested in working together on another project, do you have any ideas for the next article we could work on? Homer at the Bat is currently the second closest to FA quality, but perhaps we could work on a new page, like a character, because I would love to see more character articles be improved. -- Scorpion0422 15:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Small update, I MAY have found a useable source, although it's kind of a stretch. The author says "Jean was on board as The Simpsons's show runner in its third and fourth seasons, from 1991-'93 - the halcyon years that featured the episodes When Flanders Failed, Brother Can You Spare Two Dimes? and A Streetcar Named Marge - so he knows his Simpsons lore of yore." which insinuates that it is one of his favourites, although he does not specifically say that. It's a stretch, but CanWest is a HUGE media company in Canada (They own Global, which airs new episodes) and it would be great to have something from one of their writers. -- Scorpion0422 15:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Gran and I will be working on Sideshow Bob next. You can see what we have done so far here. -- Scorpion0422 19:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you should add the ratings info about the episode. I would do it, but I don't have any access to the article. By the way, do you think it would be possible that you could find info for another episode, like the season premiere, so that a comparison can be made? -- Scorpion0422 21:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe, although Kamp Krusty was the premiere and they usually do well. What about Homer the Heretic, which aired the week after? If it did significantly worse, then I think it would be worth mentioning. -- Scorpion0422 21:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it should be mentioned then - the episode did slightly better than Kamp Krusty and considerably better than Homer the Heretic. By the way, thanks for your help in finding the info. -- Scorpion0422 21:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh. For some reason I thought it had more than 12 million. I guess we could add that it did worse than those two. However, it did better than the average season 18 episode. There's one article where Al Jean says the average for the season was 9 million. -- Scorpion0422 03:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you are right there, and maybe a comparison isn't needed, but I still think we should include the ratings since we have a source. The reason there is no info for the other FAs is because we couldn't find any. As for the FAC, I've come to learn that no comments isn't necessarily a bad thing. If anything, it means that none of the regulars oppose the page... Yet. -- Scorpion0422 03:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Arvydas Macijauskas
"Lithuanian SSR" time is over, leave the past behind.

I think you don't know what was like to live under the system.. huh?

WP:SIMPSONS
I've noticed that a lot of people have been signing up for the project, but few have been doing anything for it, so I think from now on I'm going to leave a welcome message for anyone who joins - it would basically just be a "welcome to the project, here are our goals, here's what we've done, here's what were doing, if you need any help, ask ___ or ____" and with luck, that may net a couple good users. I've actually started work on a message here so it could be copied and pasted. It's a work in progress and is far from perfect, so I was wondering if you would mind taking a look and making any changes that you feel are necessary.

As well, I was thinking that perhaps we should try asking everyone to reconfirm their membership (This has been done by severa; WPs, such as WP:OLYMPICS a few months ago). A lot of people have disappeared and if we did that, it would show who is still interested and maybe get a few more people active. What do you think? Thanks for the time, Scorpion0422 01:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've managed to hunt down the WP:OLYMPICS stuff, so if Gran approves, perhaps we could do this by Friday. -- Scorpion0422 02:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that was the quickest promotion I've ever seen.

I'm not sure why there isn't one of these on your main page, but you deserve this one.

The school
Ah - Thank you for the correction :) WhisperToMe 23:50, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron
In view of your Mzoli's efforts, you may be interested in joining Article Rescue Squadron. -- Jreferee    t / c  04:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

King Kong Appears in Edo
Great work finding those book references for this lost film the other day, I wouldn't have thought of searching there. With your two book citations, plus the three online references, it's looking good for this article. I'm waiting for the article to get unlocked so I can add those citations and improve the existing ones. Pufnstuf 00:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: Edit to my talk page
It's fine, I was just a little over zealous and didn't bother to look at what I was doing. KipSmithers T/ C 01:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

loyola
okay, so why not just rearrage the order of the sentences instead of just deleting the whole article? Sorry, but this stuff happened, there doesnt need to be any discussion as to whether or not to include it. If you think anything I wrote sounds too subjective, feel free to change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

There are no names of the minors revealed, and all the information provided is information freely found in the newspaper. If and when any more information becomes available, I will add it to the page, and amend any of current info as need be. I am not discussing whether or not there will be any lasting effects at the school, but rather the public outcry over what many people view as racism at the school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 19:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

If you'd like to add the info from Fox news, feel free. But choosing not to does not mean that we should ignore other info that has been erased. I will leave a disclaimer about these alternative theories, but as the news breaks, it's going up, not being ignored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 20:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

umm.. excuse me, but I dont have to show anything to you before I post it. It's not up for you to decide what happened or didnt happen, just as your opinion on what actually happened is entirely worthless as I am simply typing up the facts as they have been presented to the public. If you want to accuse it of being tabloid journalism, then you can take it up with the Sun-Times, but for now they are a perfectly legitimate source for facts as they have been released on the matter. And as an alum myself, I can safely assume that you left before Dr. Kearney started, so chances are you don't quite know how the school operates much anymore. Again, if you want to dispute any of the claims, feel free to, granted you have the sources to back up your claims, because mine are finely sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 21:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I know what you're saying, that perhaps we dont have all the facts. That's great. But that doesnt mean we should pretend that there currently are no facts. This doesnt need to be swept under the rug because it doesnt hold up to YOUR standards of what should be said about your school. The fact is, there is plenty of information already available to the public, and that info deserves to go up here, as it is related to the topic of 'Loyola Academy'. For the 3rd time now, if anything I put up can be found to be untrue, then by all means take it down, but dont just assume that they arent the facts and take them down because you dont like them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 18:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks pretty solid for now. I'm sure if any more info comes up, one of us will get to adding it pretty quick. And yes, the rally did take place, but it was much smaller than the news articles made it out to be. I'll add a line or two about it into the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 19:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: your last discussion post

fair enough, and I'm sorry if I came off rather rudely. But as I said, I was merely (as best I could) presenting the facts as they have been released. If the family had wanted it to be proven to the public that sexual assault truly had taken place, I cant see why'd they'd drop the complaint simply because the offender got kicked out of school. However, you are right that because of the age and unclear details that we might not want to peer too deeply into the details just yet. But that's exactly why, myself, in my original edits was rather scant on the details, and focusing mainly on the allegations of racism on the part of the school. Because there had been NO inventigations yet, or NO arrests made, and very few details even known or proven, and yet Loyola decides to kick him out based on allegations alone. I wasn't looking to describe what happened between the two students, but rather how many people are viewing it as racism that they kicked him out before them themselves even know what happened.

IMO, though, it seems as though Loyola is becoming much less accepting and much more concerned about their image, when I always thought it was their accepting-ness and how they really lived up to the jesuit values they always preached that made it such a great school. Take, for instance, the fact that they got rid of the CARE program. First time violations of drinking/drug use now get you expelled instead of put into their rehab program. When did you graduate, if you don't mind me asking? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 21:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

My sister goes there now, and as she explained it to me, right now the CARE program has a closed-door policy, and they aren't allowing any new students into it, and that next year they'll be rid of it entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.5.60 (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Stacey King
When you watch some of the Chicago Bulls games during the 1992 and 1993 seasons, you can see Stacey King wear no. 21 instead of no. 34. You can also search for Stacey King at the Getty Images website where he wore no. 21 during the '92 and '93 seasons. i'm sure you'll be convinced.