User talk:Zagalejo/Archive 8

Bosnian/Serbian
He he can be Bosnian player when he never played for Bosnian national team? He is a Serb born in Bosnia where his father (army officer) was stationed, he fled from Bosnia to Serbia at the beginning of war. He was part of Yugoslavia/Serbia and Montenegro NT (was part of the team that won gold medal in Indianapolis, somebody deleted this part from the article). Even simple Google query will confirm that he is Serbian basketball player. We are dealing with vandal(s), not with people who might have different POV. -- Bojan   Talk  03:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Ömer Aşık
My own choice would be "Asik da Sheik"...("da" is Chicago-speak)Buster Seven   Talk  05:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Sasa Pavlovic
I don't know. AFAIK, he has Montenegrin citizenship, but he chose Serbia after dissolution of SCG, but never played for Serbia. -- Bojan   Talk  20:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Chicago Bulls
Regarding this, I don't think the record is broken. Ty Lawson did make 10 threes but he also had a miss. Did someone else break the record that I am not aware of?— Chris! c / t 04:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've restored it.— Chris! c / t 04:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Education
About the education section

It may have been a mess, but why remove the entire section? If you knew some schools weren't in Humboldt Park, then why not just remove those schools? WhisperToMe (talk) 19:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding the map! It will be very helpful :)
 * I know the City of Chicago has official defined boundaries of its "community areas" but I don't know if they are changing for 2011...
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 23:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a pilot study
I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to a short survey. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates only 5 minutes. cooldenny (talk) 20:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Žydrūnas Ilgauskas
Thank you for finishing the update I submitted on his statistics. I didn't consciously leave out his games and games started area, but it makes perfect sense that I did. Happy editing. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 03:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Spud Webb
Hi there, I posted the Daily Show reference which I believe you subsequently removed. I'm new to editing so please bear with me. I believe this is important because it reflects Spud Webb's significance in the culture at large. I had never heard of him, and when I heard this comment on the Daily Show, I wanted to understand what was being said. Once I read about Webb, the comparison to Jon Stewart made perfect sense, even though the two work in completely disparate media. To me, this seems an interesting and culturally significant reference, worthy of documenting. Serena Angel (talk) 18:55, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Is this the right place to respond to your response to me? If not, please let me know how to do it. I understand what you're saying about Spud Webb getting lots of media references. But this one seemed noteworthy to me, because it was it a completely non-sports context - hence showing his work has a wider cultural significance. I'm always interested in cultural phenomena that cross typical boundaries and have wider meaning. So for example, on many Wiki pages, you will find lists of the cultural impacts of things, or their legacy, where references to those things show up in completely different contexts than originally intended. I personally find those kinds of cross-cultural impacts very interesting, and have spent a lot of time reading sections like these on Wiki pages, even for topics I'm only casually interested in.

Perhaps the Daily Show reference should have gone in a section like that, rather than as an external link?Serena Angel (talk) 05:07, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You can reply to me here, or on your own talk page - whatever is easier for you. People have their own preferences. If you want, feel free to restore the link. I guess it's not that big a deal. Zagal e jo^^^ 05:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for taking the time to explain things to me, this is my first experience participating in Talk pages. I may restore the link, maybe make a cultural references section rather than an external link. I do now understand your thinking in removing it though. Serena Angel (talk) 17:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Hardaway
Why would you delete the image I but on Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.173.11 (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't delete the file myself; someone else did that. But I removed the picture from the article because it didn't appear to be a free image. We can't just use anything that comes from the internet. Most of those pictures are copyrighted. Zagal e jo^^^ 06:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Kobe Bryant – Shaquille O'Neal feud
Hi. It would be great if you can copyedit this article. After some great work by User:Bagumba, the article is adequately sourced and looks pretty complete. I think after some copyediting, it has potential to be GA. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks.— Chris! c / t 00:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Using Bleacher Report
Hey, thanks for your revert on the Luol Deng article where I referenced to Bleacher Report. I had never seen that website, so I wasn't fully aware of the nature of its content and its reliability. Anyway, I already added another source for the same statement. Feel free to check it out to see if it's okay now. I've also expanded some of the sections of each season for Deng. Thanks again! I'll keep my eyes more open for similar situations the next time. Thief12 (talk) 17:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you help me with the Nick Calathes article?
There is so much editing there that is like, "Nick is like so awesome he is the best player ever", and like, "In 2009 he was play good and get and make 2 steal in astonishing game verse Spain" - Also, a lot of things like listing awards won as, "Nick was 4th best in steals", "Nick was third best vote getter." "Nick was best player in game against Panellinios, Iraklis, Peristeri, Ilisiakos, Aris, etc." - And half of the edits are not Wikified at all either, not to mention that they have awful grammar. Then there would be places where there would be unexplained extra spaces for no reason between paragraphs, and then places where there should be a space for grammar and yet was no space. Like edits like, (2009,2010)2010,2011 and other strange edits. I tried my best to go through the article and clean it up, but I am sure I missed some things and probably there are still some problems. But the article was so bad and it was taking forever to fix it. Anyway, because of this, I was wondering if you could watch that article and prevent such edits happening in the future? The people that have been editing it have been doing a really bad job with awful grammar and non-encyclopedic edits like, "Nick is awesome". I really think that article needs to be watched and even if the bad editing does not stop, it should probably be semi-protected for awhile. What do you think?173.216.234.214 (talk) 00:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Durant, Westbrook, and Rose articles
Shouldn't the Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and Derrick Rose articles have this: Category:African American basketball players?  Wayne  Slam 23:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Mike Brown (basketball coach)
Adding coach gives a better description, and should serve as the main page due to the fact that he is the only basketball coach by the name of Mike Brown. By inserting his year of birth, that does not tell me who he is, is he a player or coach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techno31 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Google is very handy!! : ) but does this other Mike Brown have a Wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techno31 (talk • contribs) 02:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Well thank you for enlightening me on the subject. Then I suppose the redirect page Mike Brown (basketball coach) should be deleted, due to it redirecting to Mike Brown (basketball, born 1970).

Hey....me again I think a simple solution to this problem would be that Mike Brown (basketball, born 1970), which in my opinion is an odd name for a Wiki page should be moved to Mike Brown (basketball coach). But I know you have a problem with this, so at the very beginning of the article, this should be added: "This article is about the head coach. For the retired player and assistant coach, see Mike Brown (basketball, born 1963)." Which is already in place there. Let me know what you think, if this is not acceptable to you just let me know. Thanks again. --Techno31 (talk) 01:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Jason Kidd (early life)
Why do you continue to undo my minor adjustments? Those of us who have gone to school with Jason, grew up with him & interact with him know how proud he is to be from Oakland, CA and how much love he has for his elementary school St. Paschal Baylon. The current bio listed for him places far too much emphasis on his being born in the city of San Francisco. I merely adjusted a few words to take the focus off of his birthplace & redirect towards his hometown. Please respect that. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.47.124 (talk) 07:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said in my last edit summary, your changes introduced grammatical problems (ie, a sentence fragment). I don't have a problem with the wording as it stands now, although I don't think the article ever placed undue emphasis on San Francisco to begin with. Zagal e jo^^^ 07:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for responding & I apologize for any grammatical errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.47.124 (talk) 07:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Zagal e jo^^^ 07:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Barea
I have made a suggestion to the Barea nationality issue in the "Talk" page and since you are involved in the discussion, I would like your input. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Im trying to add more infos on the basketball career of Dwight Anderson and correct the errors on his stint in the Philippines, well my sources are from hoop notes, a sports magazine archives dated 1987, never mind if it cant be put in there(Edmon74 06:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC))

Depth chart of Olympiacos B.C.
Is there any way that you can watch that or that you can make it where only user names and not IPs can edit that page (if you can do that)? Because on that depth chart of Olympiacos B.C., anonymous IPs are always changing the depth chart to incorrect versions. They insist on putting the team's starting point guard (Spanoulis) as the team's starting shooting guard. I don't know why they keep doing this, but they do, and it has gone on for about a year. Spanoulis spent the entire season as the starting point guard of Olympiacos B.C., and yet he is always put at shooting guard on that page's depth chart. If you fix it, an anonymous IP (many different ones as well) will quickly change it. I edited it again and said if it continues that I will remove the depth chart and put it for discussion, because it is clearly not right. I don't see how the player that plays point guard every single game, is always listed at shooting guard in the depth chart. It is like if you did a depth chart of the Phoenix Suns and every time Nash was listed as the shooting guard. It makes no sense. There must be a few people using just their IP address that keep doing that on purpose. The depth chart should just be removed if they want to keep switching the positions of the players from what they actually are. Because, basically, it is false information. Should the page be set to only name users to edit, watched and rolled back, or just have the depth chart removed because of this?173.216.234.214 (talk) 09:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I Must Know
It seems to me that you've been watching my contributions and to be honest it's making me uncomfortable. If this is indeed true, I would like to know the actual reason as to why. Beast from da East (talk) 03:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

T arnold90/207.229.178.107
Hmm. According to the SPI it was based on behavioral evidence (which seems pretty convincing). I may have been confusing it with another unblock I also recently declined where someone was requesting a checkuser. Anyway, when we already know their IP address there's really no need to actually checkuser them. Daniel Case (talk) 05:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

BG?
Hey man. I'm 100% behind you on this one. Hell, there was even a time when I'd objected to that kind of edit, but i guess I've kinda fallen to all this rumour-style editing. If you can't beat them, join them I guess... My respect. :D (talk)

Civility
Don't discuss editors without notifying them. Kiefer .Wolfowitz 15:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind note on my talk page. Sometimes I monitor that page, but sometimes I don't! I did read your comments on the that page with attention, and I'll certainly remember your comment and others' comments in the future. Sincerely, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 19:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I was irritated by the others' comments following your comment/question, and I am sorry that I was short with you with the first note.
 * Your question was entirely civil, although perhaps better made on my talk page or at an RFC on my editing---so save it for later, where it should do more damage! ;-)
 * Cheers, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 19:45, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

What the F---?!
About a year ago, I (Marakashotyme) created a Wikipedia page for Juaquin Hawkins. I spent a lot of time on it to make it factual and detailed. I recently visited the page that I created to find that all of my work was essentially gone. I looked back on the revision history and saw that you are the one who edited the article to almost nothing. Why?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.104.109 (talk) 20:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't remember specifically why, but it looks like a lot of material was unsourced. Also, some parts were rather poorly written (although those contributions came from another editor, it seems). I'll restore the bulk of it, but please try to add some more sources when you get a chance. Zagal e jo^^^ 02:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

August 19, 2011
Thanks Zagalejo. I suppose I just should tune it all out -- that's what my wife suggests. But the Wikipedia page is such a prominent hit, I can't let it end with me being a wife-beater. It's strange, last time I went through this -- years ago -- there wasn't this demi priesthood of Wikipedians debating policy like cardinals during the Inquisition discussing whether I needed to be buried or burned. I contributed something to Wikipedia -- even though I feel like I'm digging the grave of professional journalism. The town of Fiesole is in Robert Browning's "Andrea del Sarto:" -- I went to Wikipedia to learn what I could about it, and its appearance in the poem wasn't mentioned. I thought it should be there, so added a line. I admit, I was proud of that. Anyway, thanks for the defense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newzpaperman (talk • contribs) 01:12, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Harold Washington Cultural Center
Thanks for the nudge. Let me know if you think I missed anything. There is not much out there.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Didn't see anything.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
and sorry for the vandalism you cleaned up on Kenwood Academy. I'm in the process of getting 70 students set up for a course under the auspices of the Ambassadors Program and it seems some might need a litte more instruction on what is and isn't OK on Wikipedia. Sgelbman (talk) 13:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Michael Jordan Statue
I can not find any articles on when they fenced in the Michael Jordan Statue. Do you know anything about when this happened.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I posted a talk page query.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Nene Hilario
hey man, can you stop change my edition? i'm brazilian, i have a big brazilian basketball channel on youtube (g4ds) and is very important to be clear with his relationship with brazil national team, thanks.
 * Replied at your talk page. Zagal e jo^^^ 03:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Opinion needed
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chicago.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

???
what's the problem with you?? are video games not "so serious" to you that you keep deleting my edits??? JuventiniFan (talk) 06:34, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I left a message at User talk:Footballracer7, which is were your talk page sends me. Zagal e jo^^^ 06:45, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks bro, I'm convinced. You're right. I didn't realize that those articles were Featured Articles and need more care compared to other articles at first. Also you're right, this detail isn't that important compared to others in those articles. Also sorry for my impatientness. JuventiniFan (talk) 07:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Jerome Vered
My mistake; I erroneously included a ToC winnings amount instituted after Vered's appearance. Thanks. 271828182 (talk) 22:41, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Eternal Silence
I doubted the veracity of the claim even as I was putting it in the article. I debated whether to use the language of the source ("first") or just to use your tweak ("early"). Your change seems perfectly fine. IvoShandor (talk) 06:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm working on an article about The Crusader (Taft's other Graceland piece) in my sandbox, it can be found here, if you're interested. I fear it needs a bit more meat so if you know of any sources to use, by all means, do point them out. IvoShandor (talk) 06:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually it's live now at The Crusader (sculpture). No worries if you don't know of any sources, just thought I'd ask since you noticed the other article. Happy editing!IvoShandor (talk) 06:30, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Thanks for your diligent work.IvoShandor (talk) 02:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I will be at the library this week too, so I will take a look as well.IvoShandor (talk) 03:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Diligence
IvoShandor (talk) 22:41, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. :) Zagal e jo^^^ 22:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Mark Landsberger
Thank you Zagalejo.You did a good job in researching my basketball career.The only thing missing is my Greek records.My Greek friend sent me the article about my record in rebounds.That is how i know.I remember i was at 17.9 and the next guy was 15.9.No big deal.I am honest.No need to lie about anything i have done.Thanx again.For your excellent work. Mark Landsberger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baller54 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

LaSalle Thompson
Please quit editing my contributions. I do have one son and I told him I would update my wikipedia page to reflect that, if myself is not proof enough, the Pacers ran a series called Where are they Now in which I talk to a reporter and tell them that I visit Indianapolis frequently to visit my son (who has now moved from Indianapolis to Arkansas). Please respect my personal contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tank4141 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
—Bagumba (talk) 05:54, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

league=both
Since it wasnt documented, I wonder if these are one of the customized changes LOL did for you? And would anyone be using it? If they are, it will literally show "both" next to League in the box. The career stats heading are displayed fine though.—Bagumba (talk) 06:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't remember how that came about. A few months ago, I went through a bunch of articles to add the "stats league" field, and I do remember seeing a few pages where both was being used (and being displayed in the actual infobox). In most cases, I did try to replace both with "ABA and NBA" (or "NBA and ABA".) I might have missed a few, though. I think User:Xaviersc might have used the both feature occasionally. Zagal e jo^^^ 06:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I found the remaining articles that used both. Zagal e jo^^^ 07:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Marshall Rodgers
I am the person who took out the reference to Harry Rogers being his brother and I stated that I did not know that it was true and could not find a source confirming it. I looked pretty hard for one. Thevandaley —Preceding undated comment added 19:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC).

AOL Ripoff?
Thanks for the help.

Best O Fortuna (talk) 03:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Kris Humphries
You don't trust TMZ as a source for the divorce filing but you allow it for the fact that he was scammed out of a few hundred thousand dollars? The eye on basketball blog sources TMZ for its story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.84.48.251 (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed that, too. Zagal e jo^^^ 16:25, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * TMZ can be used as reliable source. The website is run Harvey Levin, a former lawyer who will not allow anything to be put on his website without it being proven right. Flashback to June 25, 2009 at about 4:45 CST, when TMZ was the first to report that Michael Jackson had been pronounced dead, they were also the source CNN and other national news stations used to report the death. Twitter can also be used as a reliable source as well, but ONLY acounts from known experts on the topic being discused. There is a wikipedia policy page regarding that but I'm having trouble finding it.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 17:25, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure but it should be. I think for now, we should let TMZ be allowed in articles because I don't think it gets more reliable then TMZ. Yeah there was some trouble when Michael Jackson died, but since, TMZ has fixed there issues and national news sites and programs have actually started using TMZ has their source.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 17:39, 31 October 2011 (UTC)