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Adelaide Park Lands
What you've added doesn't match with what follows it. How about having another go at it and turning it back in to intelligible english?
 * ... Light chose a site spanning the River Torrens, (which runs through the City of Adelaide), and planned the city to fit the topography of the landscape, locating the built form of the city on the rising ground not liable to inundation to the north (North Adelaide) and south (South Adelaide, now known as the CBD[citation needed]) of the River Torrens. North Adelaide north of the Torrens on a gentle hill overlooking the river, its flood plain, and the central business district.


 * What is "the built form of the city"
 * That whole sentence is really clumsy. ''Light chose a site spanning the River Torrens, and planned the city to fit the topography of the landscape, locating the buildings on rising ground not liable to inundation to the north and south of the River Torrens.
 * You have removed mention that North Adelaide is, was and always has been residential.
 * You supply no supporting references. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:04, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * OK. You're in the middle of a work-in-progress. Good on you. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:09, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/maps/series/Adelaide_region_SA_cadastral_7920/map8315bje7920_l4_1963.pdf gives me a single blank page. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding:
 * Colonization Commissioners Dispatch to the Resident Commissioner, and
 * Bills Payable, Colonization Commissioners for South Australia

These are very vague and impossible to trace. Can you please expand them. In particular, some dates would be useful. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:29, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Nuisance edits - warning
This edit is disruptive and unhelpful. Light did not write the article and was never a member of History SA. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:15, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * " " - Too vague to be useful. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:17, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh. I get it. Really? Can you read information that detailed from http://adelaidia.sa.gov.au/panoramas/lights-plan-of-adelaide-1837 ? Yeah, I guess you can Pdfpdf (talk) 12:21, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Disruptive edits - second warning
You are removing accurate information and inserting other dubious and inaccurate information. Please cease adding inaccuracies. Fixing your errors is too much work - the only sensible solution is to revert them. If you continue with disruptive edits your will be reported to WP:ANI. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:00, 20 August 2017 (UTC

I am correcting errors and omissions based on authentic historic primary source evidence. Please Stop disruptive reversion back to erroneous unfactual material.
 * a) Please sign your talk page contributions with ~
 * b) If what you are deleting is in error, why is it supported by references from reliable sources?
 * c) If your "corrections" are based on "authentic historic primary source evidence", why aren't you providing reliable references?
 * Your response is unconvincing. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:00, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

a.? b. Because the sources are also wrong. No surprise there lot's of references for South australia regurgitate errors, not sure which one's being referred to, there are so many that are in error or not accurate. c. I thought wikipedia instructed not to use primary source references. Finally found the tilde buried on second screen. Zbunyip (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Dusruptive edits
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Pdfpdf (talk) 09:31, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Zbunyip (talk) 03:35, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Gallipoli Wattle Grove Memorial
I'm new to wikipedia, could you please advise the correct procedure for undoing the reversion? so that the text can be referenced. I know not to load the lengthy quotes, but include the evidence below that my addition has references, but got interrupted before loading them.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/164199308/19110464 Observer Sat 11 Sep 1915 p 44 WATTLE DAY. A Patriotic Effort. —The Governor-General.— ... The Wattle Day League, by its initiative, had caused Adelaide to be the first city in the Commonwealth to erect a memorial to the landing of the troops at Gallipoli, and be had great pleasure in unveiling the obelisk.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/105486179 Daily Herald Tue 17 Aug 1915 p7 WAR DAY BY DAY-NATIONAL MEMORIAL TO AUSTRALIAN HEROISM A WATTLE GROVE PROPOSED http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/105486179?searchTerm=Gallipoli%20memorial%20Grove&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc ... Believing that the gallant deeds of the Australasian Imperial Force which landed near Gaba Tepe, on the Gallipoli Peninsula, on April 25, should be commemorated, Mr. Walter Torode has suggested a splendid method. He has proposed that a portion of the south parklands should be converted into a grove, with an obelisk in the centre. To make the memorial thoroughly national he has suggested that the grove shall be of wattles.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/105486388 Daily Herald Wed 18 Aug 1915 p 3 PROPOSED NATIONAL MEMORIAL Mr. Walter Torode, who is promoting a national memorial to the Australian soldiers, who landed on the Gallipoli peninsula on April 25, has received generous offers of assistance in providing the material for the grove on the parklands which he has designed.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/59419367 The Register Mon 30 Aug 1915 p4 "WATTLE GROVE" AND "OUR BOYS" ... the Patriotic Wattle Grove, which is to be formally opened by his Excellency the Governor-General on Wattle Day, Tuesday. September 7, in the presence of His Excellency Sir Henry Galway and Lady Helen Munro-Ferguson and Lady Galway, all of whom will take part in the ceremony. ...a path leads to the central feature of the design; a pergola-covered obelisk intended to mark the first entrance of Australians into European conflict. Upon this will be placed in raised and burnished letters, an inscription to the effect that it commemorates the achievements of Australasian troops at Gallipoli on April 25. 1915. The unveiling of the memorial will be the principal portion of the ceremonial on Wattle Day; but the other proceedings will be full of significance. The obelisk pergola will be circled by special trees representing each of the Allied nations, and these again by others meant to symbolize the forces of the Imperial Dominions engaged in the war. The planting of these trees will be done by prominent citizens, including a representative of the Federal Government.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/59388746 The Mail Sat 4 Sep 1915 p5 PERSONAL The Governor-General (Sir Ronald Munro-Ferguson ), Lady Helen Munro-Ferguson, Lady Doris Blackwood, and Capt. C. G. Foxton will reach Adelaide by the Melbourne express on Tuesday ... At 3 o'clock the Governor-General will unveil the obelisk in Wattle Grove, south park, in memory of the landing of the Australians at the Dardanelles, and will also dedicate the grove, in which the Governor-General, Her Excellency, Sir Henry, and Lady Galway will each plant a tree.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/26955327 The West Australian (Perth, WA) Wed 8 Sep 1915 p5 WATTLE DAY, SOUTH AUSTRALIAN CELEBRATIONS. GALLIPOLI LANDING MEMORIAL UNVEILED. In the afternoon a distinguished gathering assembled at Wattle Grove, situated in the South Park lands, where the Governor-General unveiled a granite obelisk erected to commemorate the landing of the Australians at Gallipoli. In doing so his Excellency made an impressive speech, in which he paid a fine tribute to the late General Bridges. The State Governor (Sir Henry Galway), the Federal and State president of the Wattle Day League (Mr. W. J. Sowden), the Mayor (Mr. Simpson), the Minister for Home Affairs (Mr. Archibald), the Leader of the State Opposition (Mr. Peake), and the Military Commandant delivered speeches, and all referred to the memorable deeds of the Australians at the Dardanelles. Trees, indicating the six States of the Commonwealth, were planted by, respectively, his Excellency the Governor-General and Lady Helen Munro-Ferguson, Sir Henry Galway, [Lady Galway,] the Premier (Mr. C. Vaughan), and the Mayor.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1557860 The Argus (Melbourne, VIC) Wed 8 Sep 1915 p8 WATTLE DAY IN ADELAIDE. GALLIPOLI LANDING MEMORIAL. ADELAIDE. Tuesday. ... In the afternoon a distinguished gathering assembled at Wattle Grove, situated in the south park lands, where the Governor- General unveiled a granite obelisk erected to commemorate the landing of the Australians at Gallipoli. In doing so, His Excellency made a happy speech, in which he paid a fine tribute to the late General Bridges.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/105489811 Daily Herald Wed 8 Sep 1915 p6 GLORY OF GALLIPOLI WATTLE GROVE MEMORIAL UNVEILED BY GOVERNOR-GENERAL ... It was particularly appropriate that the first official act of the Governor-General should be in connection with Wattle Day, as his interest in and knowledge of forestry was well known the wide world over. (Cheers.) They had also with them, representing the State Parliament, the Premier (Hon. Crawford Vaughan) and the Leader of the Opposition (Hon. A. H. Peake), the Minister of Home Affairs (Mr. Archibald) representing the Federal Government, the heads of the military and naval forces, and the Mayor and other members of the City Council, so that they had a thoroughly representative official gathering to do honor to their Gallipol heroes. The Minister of Defence (Senator Pearce) had been a good friend to the wattle movement from the beginning, and he had sent an apology wishing them every success. Similarly good wishes had been received from the Prime Minister (Mr. Andrew Fisher). ... Mr. Torode ... explained the motif. The pergola at the entrance would in time be covered by wistaria or some suitable flowering climber. A path led them to the central pergola, in time to be covered with roses, under which there was the obelisk of solid granite. The lower part was rough, rugged, and unpolished, and was typical of the rough landing they had to face, and the polished top was emblematical of successful achievement. The deeds of the Australian soldiers were commemmorated in the words:—"Australasian Soldiers, The Dardanelles, April 25, 1915." The distance between posts was 4 ft., typifying the fourth month of the year in which the landing occurred, and the number of trees in each quadrangle (25) represented the date of the month. In the years to come the roses on the pergola would form a wreath to honor annually the achievements of their dear ones. ... A Permanent Reminder [His Excellency the Governor-General] "I think it is a great honour to unveil this memorial to the troops who landed on Gallipoli, for it will ever be a tribute to the gallantry of our boys and the record they have established in worthily maintaining the best traditions of the British arms ... to honour the spirits of the departed what more beautiful grove could there be than a wattle grove, which would be in bloom all the year round?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63191720 The Register Thu 21 Jul 1921 p 8 PERPETUATING HEROISM [Sir William Sowden]... established in the park lands the first memorial to the fallen on Gallipoli.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/122197254 The Gundagai Independent and Pastoral, Agricultural and Mining Advocate (NSW) Thu 20 Apr 1916 p4 Still the Echo. Test of Patriotism. MUST FIND THE MONEY "ANZAC AVENUE" ... Next --Tuesday is Anzac Day ... in the afternoon will, come a public, demonstration at which the flag will be saluted, speeches delivered, and trees planted to commemorate the glorious Australian achievement at Gallipoli on 25th of April of last year. The avenue of trees will run from the Park gate up to Sheridan-street —a 50ft. road of what, in a few years will be the pride of the district. It will be known as 'ANZAC AVENUE,'1 And the boys who fell at Gallipoli will be remembered, too. Inside the Park has been fashioned a Maltese cross, which will be planted with Cootamundra wattle, and a tree will be put down in memory, of each dead hero. As wattle-planting time is not yet with us, the ground for Wattle Grove will be dedicated on Tuesday next by the Mayor, and in June another function will be held, it which the nearest relative of each Gundagai and ex-Gundagai boy who has given his life for us will be asked to plant a tree ...

The Register Mon 24 Apr 1915 p 4 IN MEMORY OF FALLEN SOLDIERS http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/59631253 and Daily Herald Mon 24 Apr 1916 p 4 IN MEMORY OF FALLEN SOLDIERS http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/124874958 and http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8715555 The Advertiser Mon 24 April 1916 p6 HONOURING THE NATION'S DEAD Last September, when his Excellency the Governor-General and Lady Helen Munro Ferguson were in Adelaide they took a leading-part in the dedication of a wattle grove on the South Park lands, in honor of the heroes of Gallipoli, in whose memory is inscribed a record on the obelisk that forms the central feature of the grove. The trees and shrubs have thriven well under the care of the city gardener and his staff, and a commemorative tablet has been affixed to the pergola through the liberality of Mrs. Harry Bickford. The originator of the idea and of the design of the grove was Mr. W. C. Torode and again, at his suggestion, the committee of the Wattle Day League, at their latest meeting, have decided to provide facilities to-morrow (Anzac Day) for friends and admirers of the departed heroes to show respect for their memory by depositing memorial wreaths or flowers in an enclosure prepared for the purpose under the pergola. It is suggested that the flowers should be left between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., and arrangements have been made for the proper safe-guarding of the wreaths. When the grove was dedicated it was too late in the season for roses to be planted over the pergola, but this pleasant duty is now being performed by Mr. Pelzer and his assistants, and already the grove is beginning to suggest the beauty it will possess when the wattles bloom.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/59633855 The Register Wed 26 Apr 1916 p7 THE GALLANT ANZACS... At Wattle Grove. —At Wattle Grove.— The Wattle Day League, with the hearty co-operation of the City Gardener and his staff, prepared the obelisk under the pergola in Wattle Grove, on the south-west park lands, for the reception of wreaths in memory of soldiers who fell at Gallipoli, to whom the grove and the memorial were dedicated by the Governor-General on September 7, 1915— a fact commemorated by a brass tablet, since erected. The work on Tuesday was done under the superintendence of Mr. Walter C. Torode, the originator and designer of the grove. A number of wreaths were affixed to the obelisk by mothers and other relatives of deceased soldiers, and to each was attached an inscription, some of them of a pathetic nature. In spite of the inclement weather, the grove was visited at intervals during the day by those who were evidently interested in the soldiers whom it was intended to commemorate, and who doubtless felt it their duty to pay due homage to those who had fallen.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139041325 The Tumut and Adelong Times Thu 27 Apr 1916 p2 ANZAC DAY. In celebrating Anzac Day tho Gundagai folk held special church services in the morning, and in the afternoon, a public demonstration at which the flag was saluted, speeches delivered, and trees planted to commemorate the glorious Australian achievement at Gallipoli on 25th April of last year. The avenue of trees will run from the Park gate up to Sheridan-street — a 50ft- road of what, in a few years will be the pride of the district. It will be known as 'Anzac Avenue,' and the boys who fell at Gallipoli will be remembered too. Inside the Park has been fashioned a Maltese cross, which will be planted with Cootamundra wattle, and a tree will be put down in memory of each dead hero. The ground for Wattle Grove will be dedicated on Tuesday next by the Mayor. In June another function will be held, at which the nearest relative of each Gundagai and ex-Gundagai boy who has given his life for us will be asked to plant a tree.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123529453 The Gundagai Times and Tumut, Adelong and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser Tue 30 May 1916 p2 IN HONOUR OF THE ANZACS. DEDICATION OF ANZAC AVENUE. Wattle Grove Planted. An Impressive Ceremony.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/124882884 Daily Herald Wed 14 Jun 1916 p 4 ANZAC SOUVENIR State War Council issued an "Anzac Souvenir," which was an official record of celebrations held in Adelaide on "Anzac Day" to commemorate the landing of the Australians and New Zealand Army Corps on Gallipoli Peninsula on April 25, 1915. The souvenir contains ... references to the celebration at Wattle Grove ... etc. Zbunyip (talk) 03:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Adelaide tribe


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