User talk:Zeng8r/Archives/2015/August

Gaspar
I was recently asked to examine the coins in this Gaspar hand box and took a picture of it. I don't own this, as it wasn't for sale, and have no vested interest it other than personal intrigue. I want to get more REAL information about it and Im sure others are too. I don't know how the Tampa history museum decided the coins were Gasparilla souvenirs but they are VERY clearly colonial macuquinas. I can even tell you where and when they were struck. You don't have to be much of a historian to realize the museum was wrong. Im not saying this this is Gaspar's hand but they are definitely real coins and the current information on the wiki is just plain WRONG. You're the last edit so Im assuming that you are policing it. By the way, the entry in general is extremely biased on the negative side. Whoever wrote, if you, definitely didn't watch all of the news coverage.

I went back and watched the NBC and CBS stories and Harvey Kite-Powell never even says anything about a monkey hand or pirate souvenirs. Also, at the end of the NBC report definitely has an orthopedic surgeon say it looks human but wanted to have a closer analysis of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coinman54 (talk • contribs) 23:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The info comes directly from an article in the Tampa Bay Times in which Harvey Kite-Powell says that the coin were non-precious "mementos" from the 20th Century and that the hand looked like it came from a monkey. You can read it at this link. Did you look over the Wikipedia policy about original research that I linked on your talk page? You might think that the coins are old (and they might be; I have no idea). However, there's a citation to a published quote from an expert who says otherwise. To claim otherwise on Wikipedia would require a contradictory published opinion from a different expert.


 * Also, I'm not sure what you mean when you say that the Jose Gaspar entry is "extremely biased on the negative side". If you're claiming that he really existed, then I have to disagree, as there is no evidence to support that his story is anything more than a colorful myth concocted up by an enterprising advertiser by way of Juan Gomez, who loved to tell tall tales. This exhaustively researched article from the Tampa Bay History Journal was pretty definitive. --Zeng8r (talk) 00:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)