User talk:Zereshk/Archive6

Ziyarat
The galleries are a great idea. However, the pictures on the side now overlap the Iran gallery. Could you put the other piccies in galleries? Zora 00:18, 1 April 2006 (UTC) P.S. Looks nice

Persian Gulf
Hey, nice bit digging up the British Residency bits - perhaps will cool off some of the other rhetoric on the page LOL (we can pray) Bridesmill 02:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:40sotoon.jpg
You can revert to your version by clicking (rev) on the image page. Already did that for you since your image looks better. SouthernComfort 07:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Greater Iran
Great work! sorry I have not been active on it.. and yeah I have put down the Dehkhoda CD on the list now! if there's anything else I should think about getting let me know, bedrud --Kash 13:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey I don't think the statement about Airyanem Vaejah being today Afghanistan is wrong. Land of Aryans mentioned in avesta was the Aryan/Iranian expansion (look at the topic) and there is no exact area has been identified with such name, although I have seen it on some Afghan article that its been mentioned the same stuff - but I don't think it can be claimed as such --Kash 22:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I am just saying I don't think any nations e.g. Afghanistan can claim over the Airyanem Vaejah, great work so far by the way --Kash 23:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Your dedication is inspirational :) These places are all speculations though ofcourse, another place worthy of suspicion would be arkaim, thought by some to be the "home of indo-europeans tribe before invasion".. It'd be really interesting if that theory is true, that they all lived together in a land sharing the same language, spiritual beliefs, and festivals. I am not sure if we can ever find out for sure though. In any case if "Eranvaj" of Avesta is the same thing, it'd have been "Iran" wherever it was and thats all that matters! --Kash 23:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Request
Hey Zereshk,

I was wondering if you would join in on the discussion here. There is an argument right now over whether the Pashtuns are of Iranian stock or not. Thanks. BTW, in response to your comment here, I am a bit unclear on what is supposed to be done. What exactly is it? --Khoikhoi 07:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, no problem. Wait, what links? --Khoikhoi 07:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, the pages that link to "Fars". I don't think admin's would usually do this - you might try going to Disambiguation pages with links or ask User:TimBentley to do it. I for one find it to be a laborious task. --Khoikhoi 07:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If you look at TimBentley's contributions it seems that he enjoys it! You think I should give him a barnstar? --Khoikhoi 08:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, sure. --Khoikhoi 08:03, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ;) --Khoikhoi 08:15, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, how's this? --Khoikhoi 08:42, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * De nada. --Khoikhoi 08:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I want to bring something to your attention
The following is directly quoted from what user:Acuman has said about Khoemani.

'''I had seen some literature out there suggesting that Khomenini approved of sex with children and animals. Now someone has added some of these claims into this article. I'm not going to take them out, but the article is going to receive a dispute tag until these information are verified. AucamanTalk 04:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)'''

I have just left him a message about how I beleive that the problems on the Persian Jew articles are his fault and the reaction to his attacks. This is not right. I was reading exchanges with him and I believe another user of Jewish origin that led me to check the Khomeni article. I also looked at his other articles about Iran and human right problmes there. 69.196.139.250 01:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Ayatollah Shirazi, etc.
You are related to Ayatollah Shirazi? I didnt know that! Nor did I know you had relatives with some prominence in the old government. It seems every Iranian I come in contact with in this country seems to have some connection to the old government. I'm not doubting your claim, I'm just observing this phenomena. Could you explain it to me? I have no high class relations though. I'm from a cheap, ordinary middle class Pakistani-American family, with no famous relations, unless if I'm related to like, Mahmud of Ghazni by some long shot coindence or something or some Rajput king, if I had any Hindu ancestors (which I do, but probably of a lower caste). User: Afghan Historian


 * Do you know Ayatollah Shirazi's opinion on "ritual purity" in Islam and weather or not it applies to Jews and Christians? --ManiF 06:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Question
Hi Zereshk, can I ask you a question? What do you think of this method of transliteration? Quite frankly, I've never seen it before, and it looks a lot more like Old English rather than what I'm used to. I may be a lot more ignorant on this than you, but I just wanted to know what you think. --Khoikhoi 23:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. You're right, I don't really mind that much either, it's just I was unsure if other's would accept it. --Khoikhoi 00:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Sialk
He didn't do a merge, he just copied the tiny article on the Proto-Elamites into Sialk, which made for a bad join. However, I think the anonIP had a good idea, in that the old Sialk article didn't have much in the way of context. The article needs to be rewritten, that's all. Zora 23:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, here's a good precis: ,. Based on that ref, I'd advise moving the emphasis OFF the ziggurat and instead stick to archaeological site report terminology. Site is called Sialk or Tepe Sialk, on outskirts of the city of Kashan, excavated by X, Y, and Z, now believed to have X years of occupation, from A to B, analyzed in X strata, and a section on each stratum. For a contemporary archaeologist, the ziggurat is not necessarily the most important thing. Girshmann excavated back in the bad old days, when they threw away all the evidence to get the few bits they did want: stuff like pots and statues that could be displayed in museums, inscriptions, and monumental buildings. A modern archaeologist would be just as happy with carbon from a fire or pollen grains. So modern archaeologists are revisiting old, disturbed ground to see if they can wring some evidence out of it. Zora 02:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I am down on Ghirshman (sp?) because he's an example of old-style archaeology at its worst. It has NOTHING to do with nationalism, it has to do with technique. He moved tons of earth and sifted it only for pretty museum-worthy objects. He was interested in monumental architecture and to heck with the houses of the commoners (which might tell you a lot more about the society, but he didn't know that). After he got through with a site, there wasn't all that much left for later archaeologists. Contemporary archaeologists grid, they sometimes excavate with dental picks, and they don't clear the whole site -- they assume that techniques are going to keep improving, and that future archaeologists are going to want an undisturbed section on which to practice their future magic.

For a truly grotesque example of old-style archaeology, take the excavation of Great Zimbabwe, in Rhodesia. Richard Nicklin Hall was convinced that this walled city could only have been built by white immigrants, and excavated the city down to bedrock looking for signs of the immigrants. He threw out ALL the evidence, as "kaffir occupation". We know very little about Great Zimbabwe because of his gross stupidity.

Unfortunately, because of wars and then the Iranian revolution, there has been too little modern scientific archaeology in Iran. Zora 21:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I would regard Ghirshman's conclusions as out-dated. Not necessarily reliable. Too bad there is so little to put his theories in perspective. Zora 22:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Khalid ibn al-Walid
Hi Zereshk,

I thought you and/or someone you know might have some input on the life and career of Khalid ibn al-Walid.

Timothy Usher 06:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Al-Karaji
I'm rather confused by you last revert at Al-Karaji. Did you even look at the article before reverting it? Not only does your edit summary make little sense, but it reintroduce an error which I'll leave as an excercise to to you to spot (and it remvoed some additional material, unrelated to his etnicity, which added, but I guess that's warranted when fighting of Arab nationalists ). —Ruud 23:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * See WP:OWN. Thich fact did I leave out? Ohw... you haven't even edited it for a year and it even managed to get his name wrong, and no I'm not talking about the last part. —Ruud 01:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Really, check the page history. Their version is nearly identical to my first one, so obviously I've got nothing agianst it. —Ruud 01:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Anyway, you reply was evanding my question, which facts did I leave out? And I'll take the courtesy of asking another one. Do I understnad it correctly that you're about as pisses as me with User:ManiF, User:Jidan and User:Zmmz? —Ruud 01:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Persian Alphabet
Hi Zereshk!

I've noticed that you're a native Persian speaker, and I was wonderingif you could help me out with the names of the letters of the Persian alphabet here. conio.h • talk 13:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

There is new activities brewing, user:Acuman is trying to mobilize Arab editors against Iranian editors
Here is a direct quote: '''Watchlist this article and follow some of the things in the discussion page. Same with Persian Gulf naming dispute. AucamanTalk 06:21, 31 March 2006 (UTC)'''

Also here quotes by user:Ahwaz talking to the same editor Acuman is trying to control;

'''If you get into any dispute with the Persian chauvinist gang over content, they will not compromise and start making allegations, the favourite being: anti-Iranian, anti-Persian, Jew, Israeli, separatist, terrorist, "want to break up Iran", and all that crap. They are free to say this without any admin interference. When I tell someone to blow their nose, there is a big furore and the admins take action. Wikipedia is a pile of rubbish and the people that run it are donkeys. The code of conduct is there for powerful gangs to impose their agendas. If five people are against two or three, it does not matter how many times you revert they will always have their point of view imposed on articles. Why spend time on this nonsense? Even the media is now showing up Wikipedia's failings. No serious academic is involved (oh, there's the "genius" Zereshk, who knows everything about nuclear engineering, quantum physics, architecture, philosophy, poetry, religion, linguistics, medicine - you name it, he is the self-appointed expert - and he still finds time to run edit wars and insult people). Ask yourself why. Because no serious academic takes it seriously. It is rubbish.--Ahwaz 11:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)'''

69.196.139.250 00:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * They really cant do anything, because we are armed with facts, theyre armed with arguments and polemics. So dont worry too much. The Persian Guld will stay the Persian Gulf, no matter how hard they huff and puff.--Zereshk 01:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Jami
Do you have any Persian sources at your disposal concerning poets such as Jami? I have initiated a neutrality dispute at that article concerning the issue of "pederasty" and if you could help offer other scholarly opinions, it would be much appreciated. SouthernComfort 05:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Persian music
Is it a good idea to merge Persian music into the Music of Iran ? Amir85 07:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Greater Iran (Frye)
You mentioned on some talk page that you had ordered a copy of  Greater Iran by Frye I just thought to ask if you have gone through it and your opinion.


 * I got it. Im through chapter 4 so far. I'm satisfied. The book however is largely an autobiography (how/when/where he met Mossadegh, Corbin, etc). Is your question directed toward the purpose of buying it?--Zereshk 20:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Well somethig like that... In a way I thought it may have something new to support the

greater Iran article... the more sources one can cite to prove that the term's use is a common practice the better ...but bollocks with bios this lot on wiki are wicked more is needed.

LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

 * I should update it.--Zereshk 22:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * $12 a month? khrich. I'm sorry I think I just heard someone being ripped off. HEHE Okay that was lame, but still. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 22:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Still, Its too much. I am not sure how much space u need, but if it is under 100mb, the best place is doteasy.com, $25 a year, Domain and everything else. IT IS THE MOST RELIABLE HOST I KNOW. I have worked with a lot of hosts and this is the best. Also, I read the message before mine, the book you are reading, Greater Iran, I heard a lot about it, what is it about? I read a lot of books on Iran, now I'm reading Gharbzadegi by Jalal Al-Ahmad and after this I'll be reading Iran: Elements of Destiny by Roloff Beny. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 00:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah he is an amazing person. Him and Mr. Ehsan Yarshater are two people I very much respect. I saw Yarshater 2 months ago when he was giving a speech on Iranian languages. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 01:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Jami
Absolutely. Anything you can add to the article would be most excellent. Thank you. SouthernComfort 01:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Arab/Persian
Ohhh. Thank you for telling me that. BTW: Isn't wikipedia addictive? or is it just me? Jidan 03:57, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * LOOOOL. Dude, everybody is here because they have a shitty life. This is how Wikipedia works. Jidan 04:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Habib
Agha, do you know if Habib (khanandeh, of Madar fame) is from Abadan or is he Azari? SouthernComfort 05:10, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Dehkhoda
Hey man, yeah but my mother is gonna be back in a month so I won't have it any ealier. I will put it online or whatever as soon as I get it. In the meantime again if there is anything else that would be cool let me know --Kash 15:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

haha I just read that you are related to the guy! thats pretty cool --Kash 15:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Iranian Azerbaijan
Hey, what do you think about the spelling of Iranian Azerbaijan at that article? Should it be Azerbaijan or Azarbaijan? The first one gets more Google hits. --Khoikhoi 00:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Very interesting, thanks. I guess what we have right now at the Azarbaijan page is fine. Thanks again. --Khoikhoi 02:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at this


A friend's comment: Bush isn't just dangerously incompetent, he's bat-shit insane.

Somehow we have to stop this. Zora 02:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Al-Nafis
Was he Arab or Persian? I have a source here that says he was Persian, but I think he was Arab. So I'm a bit confused. What does the Dehkhoda dictionary say about this? --ManiF 15:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Mashallah was an Arab? Do you have any source regarding his place of birth ( Balkh or Basra?) or ethnicity? --ManiF 02:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Persian assistance
Hi Zereshk, allow me to ask for your Persian assistance. There's a discussion about. Either if it's genuine or forged, we're trying to establish if it purportedly corresponds to Iranian Basijis or Lebanese Hezbollah militias. Can you recognize any possible Persian word on the headbands? Thanks in advance, --Filius Rosadis 19:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * خيلي ممنون for your message! I'm still intrigued by the headbands, could you decipher what do they say? --Filius Rosadis 20:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Pirooz and Narsieh
Hey, could you look up if you have any info on Pirooz and his son Narsieh? they were the son & grandson of Yazdgerd III who apparently lived in China. Oh yeah, apparently we have nukes! how about that! -- - K a s h  Talk 23:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Safavids ancestry
Hi,

Check this out. I think you will like it. I replaced your reference by that link since it is easily verifiable. Thanks.Heja Helweda 03:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Mazanadaranis
It seems Heja has shown me a whole bunch of sources that state that the Mazanadaranis are a separate ethnic group. SC has stated however that that no source says this. What should I do? --Khoikhoi 22:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that was very interesting.


 * BTW, check this out - what should we do about it? --Khoikhoi 23:43, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It's ok, no problem. Cheers, Khoikhoi 23:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Wolf Image
Thank you for the lovely wolf image! It's always wonderful to see a Canis lupus pallipes happy and healthy. Never Cry Wolf 01:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijan
Please look at. Bidabadi 11:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Nazar ill'al-murd
What are your thoughts on this article as regards accuracy and NPOV? SouthernComfort 15:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Zereshk
Thanks for defending Iran's territorial integrity against those who make separatist statements...

Qabusnameh etc.
Please take a look at LGBT rights in Iran. There are statements about Bustan and Golestan and Qabusnameh. Are these statements correct ? I think these are written by some western editors who have no understanding of the language and style of these books and sufi poetry in general ("Moreed/Morad" and Morshed ...). Thanks. --Mitso Bel13:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Bunny Day!
Never Cry Wolf 10:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:ZPP.gif
Thanks for uploading Image:ZPP.gif. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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In particular we need an actual copyright holder for this one. Stan 23:22, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * In general a photo in a brochure is going to be a problem to justify using on WP.  All photos have copyright holders, whether or not the holder is credited by the publication - sometime photographers retain rights, other times they sell their ownership to a publisher. But a brochure generally doesn't mention that kind of detail, and one would have to contact the publisher to find out for sure. But as Fair use says, you can't make a valid fair use rationale without knowing who holds the copyright in the first place. Iranian copyright law might have looser provisions that make WP use legitimate, worth checking into. Stan 04:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Where to seek help?
Salam! I have written the article Asalouyeh, and I am just after somebody to write in the name of this town in Farsi at the start of the article. I do not speak Farsi (let alone write it), and I not sure where to go to get this done?

I also notice you have done studies on architecture in Iran - especially Kashan. When I was living in Tehran, I sometimes went down to the Fin Garden just to get ou of Tehran, relax for the day and drink some tea. Lovely. I also enjoyed day trips to Qazvin, which I notice you also have an interest.

Thanks! --Commking 23:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Somebody's done it. Thanks. --Commking 22:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Iranian Azarbaijan
Hi there,

I just wanted to let you know that user, khoikhoi (MOD) keeps including the very offensive term, "south azerbaijan" on the Iranian Azerbaijan page. We should not let him post this propoganda and false information. That term has no place in an encycolpedia article. It is not relevent to the content. What a few seperatists call that region should not be shown here. If we dont stop this, people will start including the "a#abian gulf" as an alternate name on the Persian gulf page.

KhodahafesDariush4444 04:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

It's official
Iranians are crazy :) -- - K a s h  Talk 10:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Arabs of Iran.jpg listed for deletion
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Brain Scratch
Hey man. I watched the first ten episodes of Ghost in the Shell including SA ones, so far its great but not as impressive as Cowboy bebop, nonetheless I have to see the whole first season to give my final verdict on it.

About your question, I have a brother in Canada doing Ph.d. All the best. Amir85 08:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Mohammad Soleimani
Recently I've been working on Mohammad Soleimani which I think might interest you. Any info you could add would be very appreciated, KI 22:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Iranian Turks
Please have a look -- - K a s h  Talk 23:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Mahan.jpg
Can you please provide further justification why you believe Image:Mahan.jpg falls within the public domain of the United States. According to the template, anything published in the US prior to 1922 is PD, yet I see no evidence to believe that this is the case. Thanks. Pepsidrinka 03:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm, apparently it already says that on the image. Well, since the issue isn't really black/white, I'll assume good faith in you and previous admins who've reviewed the situation and let it be for the time being. In regards to the Timothy_Usher situation, please provide me with a diff. Pepsidrinka 17:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

..
Zereshk can you please reply to the email i sent you regarding moshes rv of the "frye" article. If you didnt come to an agreement, Should not just let his vandalism go unpunished, or he will never stop. Thank you --Darkred 22:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I see, but i meant this article: Richard Nelson Frye. Thanks --Darkred 23:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Shams Tabraiz/Shams Tabrizi
Hi Zereshk,

The Shams Tabraiz article was recently moved to Shams Tabrizi - is there anything incorrect about this? Please see the article talk page, thanks. &mdash;Khoikhoi 23:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks. &mdash;Khoikhoi 06:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Bozorg v. Kabeer
Hi, I was wondering if you could weigh in on this discussion, since I'm by no means an expert on Persian. This seems to me somewhat like the situation use of nam and ismee: if I talk to Persian speakers and say "Nam man Yusif ast" they look at me funny, but when I was looking at the form to apply for an Iranian tourist visa, the space for my name said "Nam." There is obviously a difference between low and high-register varities of Persian using different vocabulary, but I want a real Persian-speaking Iranian to confirm the usage(s) in this case. Would a professor be more likely to say "Koroush Bozorg" while a juice vendor on the street might say "Koroush Kabeer," or would it be more based on the geographic area and not socio-economic status? --Jpbrenna 05:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Kalimi iran.JPG
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Image
I understand that the image is probably free; however, it is still your obligation, as an uploader, to provide the exact source of the image, so that others could verify that it's copyright status, as well as the accuracy of your description of the image. Pecher Talk 15:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm no expert in the image copyright field, but I do believe this user is correct; the image needs to have some hint of where it came from on its page. --InShaneee 15:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You need to translate it to english here. Since this is the english wikipedia, it's suggested that you use english as much as humanly possible so that a wider degree of editors are able to see what you are doing. --InShaneee 16:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that helps, but I'm still not sure why you can't translate the first source (since it's usually good form to say where YOU got the image). --InShaneee 16:19, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Salam nima, I got your email. I think they decided the HP exam for the 10th.--Nightryder84 23:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Geber
Keep an eye on this page, Jidan is disrupting consensus by saying he was Arab. Thanks. &mdash;Khoikhoi 03:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Salam,
 * Please don't get the wrong idea of me. Among all iranian editors, you are the most one I respect, and you have even contributed a lot to arab scientist articles. We discussied this issue long time ago, and although all encyclopedia's say he was arab, for the sake of islamic civilization(or whatever you call it), we settled by just "islamic chemistist", and I respected that consnesus . What has triggered me to mention his ethnicity is the childish/nationalistic behaviour of ManiF. He shoved in "Iranian-born" where ever his name is metnioned, to articles that dont give a shit about his ethnicity. Read this if you want exactly to know what I mean . You have no idea how that pissed me off. IMHO, those kind of users dont help at all the iranian cause. Unfortunatly, I was stupid enough to fall into this ethnic-crap trap. From now on, in all articles where ethnicity is not relevant(not just geber, and not just scientists of unknowm ethnicity), I will delete any mention of ethnicity for both persian and arab scholars, and just put "islamic scientist", since there was no concept of nationality back then. You and others may not like it, but this is the only way to stop this ethnic crap. Tell me what you think of this. jidan 00:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Iran
''copied from Talk:Iran
 * I give up fullheartedly. You can erase all of the article to a stub, so that it can be featured, if that's what WP policies require for featured status. Good luck.--Zereshk 04:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I am sad to see you post that. I hope you change your mind and continue editing Iran. Green Giant 04:48, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Musha'sha
Sorry to bother you - can you please help whether Musha'sha or Mshasha is more correct. Soutern Comfort reverted me, but I am pretty sure that Musha'sha is used in English. Thanks abdulnr 11:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Iranian peoples
Could do with your opinion, apparently Iran is an out-dated term! -- - K a s h  Talk 11:33, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Iranian people
Please take a look at this:, there is a voting going to include azeris in the iranian people list. --Darkred 02:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Cheshm manuscript
You have posted a picture on the wikimedia commons. Can you please provide a bit more information on that manuscript (eg catalogue number). Thanks --Aethralis 07:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)