User talk:Zigzig20s/Archive 13

It is always pleasant surprise
to get thanked for an edit, an article, that I did five years ago. I am pleased that you noticed. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:10, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: My pleasure. Happy editing!Zigzig20s (talk) 16:28, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Always. Well mostly.  I am still bit annoyed about the newly created Redirects, which is petty, but I have not breakfast yet. Carptrash (talk) 16:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: Create stubs over the redirects after breakfast and problem solved!Zigzig20s (talk) 17:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * We'll see. For sure there is plenty to do. Carptrash (talk) 17:31, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:23, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Barn Star for you

 * User:Coal town guy: Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 01:37, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for The Jewish Confederates
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Radio Erena
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Karl Hoblitzelle
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Alex Shih: Why isn't it at the top with his picture?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:30, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Jones S. Hamilton
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Frank P. Gates
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Darnell Hunt
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Walter J. Leonard
Mifter (talk) 00:04, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for James Raymond Lawson
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Belated best wishes for a happy 2018
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:55, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It is my opinion that BoringHistoryGuy could well be a candidate for the Category of Wikipedians who wear tiaras, though it is your space so I leave the overtures to you. Carptrash (talk) 18:19, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:Serial Number 54129 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * I nominate Zigzig20s to be Editor of the Week for over 5,000 artcles created. Yes, a lot of stubs and short lists, but in sheer numbers this is phenomonal dedication; almost the only time you ever see them out of articlespace (where >94% of their activity takes place), in fact, is where they're discussing the sources for their next artcle. And that's not counting the > 140,000 non-automated edits. And this has all been going on, under our noses, unnoticed and unrecognised, for ten years.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week: Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   19:25, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your hard work and great edits! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:51, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well done. Good to see all your hard work getting appreciated. Edwardx (talk) 10:00, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

I am wondering why
about why you passed that little documentary on the Denton Confederate Soldier Monument on to me? Were you aware that the photo of the statue at that article was mine? Probably, but i thought I’d ask. Sometime around 2011 I visited Denton, Texas researching what was to become the Pioneer Woman (Friedlander) article. I also visited the courthouse there, a classic Richardson Romanesque pile, and noticed the CSA soldier out front, so I shot him, is my want. I was very excited to watch the documentary and am standing firmly behind Willie, that thing has got to go. But I didn't get a vote on the town council, so it stayed. Thanks, Carptrash (talk) 04:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: I did not realize you were the one who took the picture! The article needs work (infobox, map, more RS). I disagree with you however. I agree with Condoleezza Rice.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:37, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If you find me agreeing with Condoleezza Rice about anything, please put me out of my misery.  She might have been powerful but she never wore a tiara. The United States happily knocked down statues of Hitler and Il Duce following WWII, we knocked over Saddam Hussein statues ourselves and the whole country cheered, we applauded statues of Lenin & Stalin coming down all over Eastern Europe but suddenly when it is our racist history involved we want to hang on to it.  That is because, in my opinion, we want to hang on to racism.  I was in Mempis a decade ago, looking at a statue of Jeff Davis and I realized that I was the only white person in sight.  There was no reason for it to be there.  The black people of Memphis did not need it to remind them of slavery, they probably get reminded of it a dozen times every day. Still, it is interesting about Denton and you and me. Carptrash (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: I think censorship is un-American. I also agree with Alfred Brophy--contextualize the exisiting monuments and build more monuments. Perhaps they could erect a statue of a prominent African-American politician/businessman in front of the Denton Confederate monument for example.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have not tried to track down all the subtle implications of what you are suggesting but how would you feel about a monument to the folks (1) who were willing to die to keep your ancestors enslaved and (2) have not changed their views that much in the last century and a half? As far as censorship being unAmerican, did you cheer when Saddam's statues crumbled? Did you applaud the destruction of Lenin & Marx?  Much less Stalin's statues? Pretty much all American TV (opinion) is heavily censored, no perspective left of center is ever presented.  There will never be a monument built that will convey what it was like to be a slave.  Do you think that Denton TX is going to do something to "balance" what a CSA soldier statue means?  I do not.  So the monuments to racism will stay in place and only lip service will be presented as a counter-balance. Carptrash (talk) 05:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

List of Texas Revolution monuments and memorials
User:Doncram and User:Carptrash: Just created List of Texas Revolution monuments and memorials. Feel free to improve/expand it!Zigzig20s (talk) 02:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Doncram and User:Carptrash: Only two days left to improve it before I can submit it as a DYK nomination.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:43, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Nv8200pa: FYI.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, according to DYK check tool, the article is still tiny ("Prose size (text only): 264 characters (46 words) 'readable prose size'") because the text in list items doesn't get counted. So it's possible to make a five-fold expansion (plus more to get to DYK-required 1500 characters) anytime later, qualifying for DYK eligibility. --Doncram (talk) 03:41, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Menschel
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Menschel
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of List of Mexican-American War monuments and memorials
Hello! Your submission of List of Mexican-American War monuments and memorials at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:26, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this since i'm still figuring out Wikipedia, but thank you. Helping me with the article I've started has been a big help, especially knowing the technical stuff to clean it up and make it look nicer. I wanted to ask a mediocre question on preference. If you could go back and see the last "undo" I've done, and just choose which photo you like in which spot, I'd appreciate it. (I really like both believing they're important, I'm just being persnickety and not wanting things too look confusing.)

P.S: I feel bad because I still haven't found anything connecting Willis Polk yet. Benjamin.P.L (talk) 03:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Benjamin.P.L: No problem. What about moving the pictures to the right, as we read from left to right?Zigzig20s (talk) 04:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Zigzig20s: I like the idea of people being able to see them right away, so they're reading and connecting them with the right section. As well not having to scroll much. But I do wanna kinda agree, it is a bit confusing.( I may add one more to even things out.) But I'm not sure, I'll deiced that later.Benjamin.P.L (talk) 04:17, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Benjamin.P.L What about this new version? I think this is fine. By the way, there is no need to ping me when you write on my talkpage; I am only pinging you because I am not replying on your talkpage.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm still a little uncertain, but you're right. It's fine for now until I deiced to add another later.(And Excuse me, I'm still trying to figure this all out. The talk page on replying wasn't very helpful.) 04:32, April 18, 2018.

Thanks!
Thank you for the barnstar! I hope to continue with more Republic of Texas-related articles. Brian Reading (talk) 04:16, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Brianreading: No problem. By the way, you may be interested in List of Texas Revolution monuments and memorials. We may nominate it for DYK if we manage to expand it sufficiently.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:26, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks interesting. I'll check it out, and try to update when I have some time. Brian Reading (talk) 04:30, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lynching of Ephraim Grizzard
Courcelles (talk) 12:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Congrats to the stats! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Too lazy for a new thread: Template:Did you know nominations/Gerd Hatje. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lynching of Samuel Smith
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jefferson Street
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

EJI
I emailed someone; I'll keep you posted. Invitation to come down and see it stands. Drmies (talk) 15:30, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Lynching of Samuel Bierfield
Hi, I was working on this article when it was moved and made an error in trying to get my edits in. Can you help delete Samuel Bierfield, which still exists? It's been a long time since I've deleted an article. Good work with your efforts on lynching articles. I've long worked on this topic and most recently have been working on providing content on total lynchings in the top five counties/parishes in each state reported in EJI's 3rd edition of its Lynching in America, the Summary by County. Sometimes I've also added content about specific lynchings or mass events.Parkwells (talk) 15:57, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Parkwells: Hi. I think it should be a redirect. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:59, 18 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've already moved most of the Franklin Riot description to the Franklin, Tennessee page, but had wanted to provide some background to Bierfield's lynching. I am considering making a separate article on the FR. Just wanted to document some basic information. Thanks for the suggestion on 1967 Nashville Riot and will read that article.Parkwells (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lynching of Amos Miller
Alex Shih (talk) 00:56, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks...
... for creating so many new NRHP articles lately! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Another Believer: No problem. A bit of unpleasant drama over the maps though. I will take a break.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for List of Mexican–American War monuments and memorials
Vanamonde (talk) 05:18, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Elias Polk
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for W. Barklie Henry
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Samuel Clark
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:52, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Outstanding American by Choice
User:Gerda Arendt, User:Yoninah, User:Cwmhiraeth: I don't want to be accused of spreading pro-American propaganda, but I created Outstanding American by Choice a while back and I think it could be interesting to a "wide audience." I was wondering what it would take to turn it into a successful DYK. Would I need to add more referenced content to the paragraph at the top? Or flesh out the bios of each recipient?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:44, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * As you know, you will need about twice as much prose as you currently have (lists don't count), and every item sourced. Shouldn't be too hard, expanding example bios in the lead. Women Disobey ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, it was created on June 21st so would not qualify under the newness rule. It is currently 753 B in length, and that would have to be expanded fivefold for it to qualify under the expansion rule. Only the current lead paragraph is counted for this purpose as bullet points don't count. It's up to you whether you think this achievable. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:42, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Re "interesting to a broad audience"—this is referring to the hook, not the article. Catchy hooks are what you're aiming for. Yoninah (talk) 18:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Yoninah: Good point. I think I would highlight their diversity of origin and occupation in the hook.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:54, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up on Leon GIlbert
Based on your request, I looked up Leon Gilbert, and I found this PDF link on the life of Leon Gilbert, and there's an article in the Tennessean about his nephew selling land to expand Beaman. The PDF has his dates of birth and death, but mentions neither wife nor any children, and it briefly mentions his service in the Tennessee House of Representatives, but not when or for what district.

If you write an article about Leon Gilbert, send me a link so I can see it. The Saxon (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Saxonjf: Thanks for the note. For some reason I am only finding this. I guess we could create a stub, but I am surprised there aren't more obituaries...Zigzig20s (talk) 15:39, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Larry Thomas (political advisor) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Larry Thomas (political advisor) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Larry Thomas (political advisor) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 08:56, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Jessie H. Jones
Zigzig20s: I noticed that you posted a photograph of Sudley Place, the William Jones farm in Tennessee. That section really needed an image. Thank you. I have seen your name tied to history articles. There are some rather obvious gaps in the article, but would you be willing to critique the developed parts and advising me how to take this to a GA? It's possible that without Jones's efforts that there would be no Port of Houston. Thanks, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 17:07, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Oldsanfelipe: Sorry for the delay. I added the picture because I created a stub about his childhood home. I was trying to create as many articles about NRHP-listed buildings in TN as possible, but it ended up creeping me out because their history is not peaceful, to put it mildly. I am interested in Texas but I prefer "forgotten history", "forgotten places" and "forgotten individuals". So if you want to work on historic buildings in small towns or notable farmers/politicians no one remembers, let me know. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Felton Grandison Clark
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Insight Park
Hi. Take a look ar this and let me know if you think it will work: Yours Bob Cummings (talk) 23:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * User:BobCummings: Thanks. I've added the picture to the article. Hopefully others will expand it.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Texas Confederate Museum
You’ll surely want to look at Texas Confederate Museum which I put up today. deisenbe (talk) 01:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)