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Furman Hall
Sorry, but I don't live in Nashville and have never been to Vanderbilt. The two "Furman Hall" photos that I added were from the Smithsonian and Flickr You might be able to find an online photo that is pre-1923 or otherwise in the public domain. Then you can use a Wikipedia tutorial to find the right form for adding the image to the Wikipedia or Commons universe. Hope this is helpful. By the way, Gelert's 1897 statue depicting a "Wounded American Soldier" was a gold medal recipient at the Tennessee Centennial in Nashville. It shows a bandaged warrior, who cannot be identified as either a Union or Confederate soldier. Perhaps for this reason, it never received the funding to be remade in bronze. There may be a book somewhere with a photo of the plaster version at the 1897 World's Fair. Unfortunately, thus far I've only found a washed-out photocopy. Better than nothing. Pfa (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Novels Collaboration
re: Edith Wharton -- yes, but if we don't add a scholarship category, others can't add to it. Yes, I sometimes get it wrong the first time, but that's what Wikipedia is! You aren't helping anyone by erasing everything and keeping the entry so slim! ( Critic 11)

WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election
Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - July 2009
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Categories
Hi. You've got the process correct up to the stage where you're putting something in the edit window. To create a cat, you need to put in the edit window the name of the category or categories which you want to be the parent of your new category. So in the Dallas County, Alabama example, you want Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Dallas County, Alabama to sit within the equivalent category for the state: i.e. Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Alabama. Also, before the closing square brackets, it is good practice to add a "|" and then the name of the county, because that will ensure it sorts in the correct alphabetical order on the parent category page. So in the edit window for Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Dallas County, Alabama, I have changed it from Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Dallas County, Alabama to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Alabama. Of course you could add more categories in the edit window if there are any other relevant ones; just remember that you are always making a "child" and it needs to link upwards to at least one "parent". Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!)  18:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the talk page at Lahure by removing the redirect template and replacing it with the Disambiguation Project template.  Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  18:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Mississippi pictures
Thanks for writing. I've found the best place to find pictures is on Flickr. Many have been uploaded without copyright protection. Wikipedia Commons also has a lot of old Library of Congress pictures. I wish I had more time to travel and take pictures. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * ], South Yorkshire c.1820, to the well-known 19th-century artist [John Frederick Herring, Sr.] (1795–1865), who at the time, was considered one of England's great Sporting and [[Equestrianism|

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 * | relatives = Andrew Jackson (son-in-law) Donelson Caffery great-grandson Patrick T. Caffery  great-great-great grandson

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 * the Perkins School of Theology at Southern Methodist University and later served as President of Salem College

Marta Domingo article
Thanks for your note. I think that it makes awfully boring reading to have each sentence (more of less) begin with the "In xx year", she.....etc." but when you've expanded, it could probably be broken up into separate paragraphs and be more varied.

The only thing relating to the Israel company is this: Tel Aviv Performing Arts Center, but right now I'm working on a whole series of Italian operas from the primo ottocento. Viva-Verdi (talk) 15:36, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Aqueduc de Roquefavour
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Francis Fontaine
Sorry about that - didn't mean to override. I'm a little more woolly-brained today than I'd like. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:03, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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October 2014
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 * to produce ornate and decorative designs. His work still exists in his family’s estate, Rokeby near Barrytown, New York, the Luxembourg Museum and in private collections across the country.

Heathman Plantation
Hey nice work. I added the photo to the Heathman article, then saw your article go up. I may have another photo someplace. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * In the article, you said it was located in Indianola. Did you mean in Heathman?  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:12, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes. Yesterday I added energy to Mississippi; today, its eulogy. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

A small lesson in political science and terminology - take it or leave it
You are using the term right wing left wing in a way that only holds for contemporary US politics. Size of government has nothing to do with the right/wing left wing system. High taxation is only left wing if it is used for redistribution. Small government is only a trait of contemporary US right wing, not defining for the way the right/left system is used in political science historically or currently. Only the American libertarian right considers Fascism to be left wing. Traditionally right wing is associated with conservatism and authoritarianism and left wing with liberalism and social egalitarianism. Libertarianism draws from both traditional wings because of its left wing focus on individual freedom but right wing because of its anti-egalitarianism. Cox was right wing because he was both an authoritarian and a conservative. Fascism is not left wing because it is not egalitarian, and highly authoritative and conservative. Some fascist movement have had left wing elements in focusing on social redistribution, all though not in favor of egalitarianism, by transfering funds to a favored class of citizens. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Foote, Mississippi
Hey there. I thought "Foote" looked familiar. I came across it when I wrote the Lake Washington (Mississippi) article. Have a look at some of my references for that article. The area has been well documented. Let me see if I can write an article on Foote. If it has a lot of info it may not happen until next weekend, but it's listed in GNIS. Also, I looked for info on Peter Aaron Van Dorn, but found nothing new. I did find one more wiki article which linked to it, and added a blue link. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:53, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I see I mentioned Mount Holly in the Lake Washington article. Magnolia677 (talk) 01:04, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice photo here. If you want me to upload from the Library of Congress let me know.  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I added the photo here. Cheers.

Oakland College
Is the Oakland Normal Institute article what you are looking for? Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:30, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think so. I replied on your talkpage.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no ideas. I saw that you were looking for Oakland College in Mississippi and I just came across the article about a similar name by accident. Your propsed Oakland College (defunct college) is not a very good title to use as it does not give clarity in distingishing from any other defunct Oakland Colleges. Look at University College, or similar places, for better examples. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:05, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Erwin, Mississippi
On wiki. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

More NRHP
I don't want you to think I'm stalking you, so I'm discussing this here first. Several of your recent additions to the set of NRHP articles have info boxes with missing reference numbers. Not a big deal, and easily corrected. FYI, that list is an automatically generated category, Category:NRHP_infobox_needing_cleanup, and it shows up on the todo list in the WT:NRHP maintenance section. I'm happy to take care of adding this info, and adding the NRHP nomination forms as references where appropriate. The other thing I would normally clean up is the multiple references for minor items, like five references for "it is located in Foote, Washington Country, Mississippi". This seems to me that it impedes readability, and isn't necessary, but it does seem to be your style. Looking at 100's of other NRHP articles, more than one or two references per data item is very unusual. Do you want to normalize to the other similar articles in this space, or are you firm on this? I'd rather see more new NRHP articles than get hung up on this issue, but it is worth discussing. Generic1139 (talk) 16:03, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there Generic1139. I also do edits to NHRP articles and sometimes struggle to find the reference number, even when looking at the nomination form.  Is there an easy way to find that number?  Thanks!  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:52, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * So as not to hijack Zigzig20s' page, I've replied on your talk page. Generic1139 (talk) 18:56, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Wetherbee House (Greenville, Mississippi)
I didn't keep the reference because it didn't add much to the article, and I viewed the nomination form as more authoritative. For example, most of the other references are careful to not state a built-on date, where Pelican simply says built in 1873. The nomination form notes that the property was purchased in 1873, another reference says that the cottage was moved to the current location from the original plantation. None give an authoritative date when the cottage was built.

The original version of the article also had four references for the simple statement of where the property was located. One reference is usually considered sufficient, unless the statement is particularly controversial. If you want to add additional sources, an external links or further reading section might be more appropriate. However, I don't feel strongly about this, feel free to add the pelican reference back in.

A note for future NRHP articles you write - please make sure you add the refnum to the info box, otherwise the article shows up on the list of nrhp infoboxes needing cleanup, which was why I saw the article in the first place. You can find the NRHP number in various ways, in this case it was on the list for the county. You can also usually find properties using the elkman info box generator http://www.elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php, which is good for form and refnum, but the nris-derived data is sometimes iffy. elkman also gave me a pointer to the nomination form (only works for some states), which is always a good thing to reference in an NRHP article. Generic1139 (talk) 02:46, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: citing, I don't mind a [2][3], but I do think [1][2][3][4][5] is over the top for something like the location. Yes, the ref for the first para in Wetherbee got lost in the shuffle, I've added it, and used one of the other references to back up the uncertain claim (the one that says the house may have been moved).

I added a reference in Richmond (Natchez, Mississippi). I think the redlink for Juan St. Germaine should be removed, he isn't particularly notable, he is mentioned peripherally in a doctoral thesis and Natchez court records as Jean St. Germain and once as jean/juan St. Germain, but his only notability seems to be the purchase of this property. Generic1139 (talk) 19:54, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Constance Bumgarner Gee


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 * BLP in which subject is notable for ex-husband, fails Academic notability on her own.

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Resource
You may find this useful. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Listing for deletion
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However, I did not delete the article; the material can certainly be at least merged into the article on the library. It is in no sense an advertisement, and it has sufficient possibility of importance to pass speedy. I will explain to the editor involved what needs to be done.  DGG ( talk ) 01:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Talkpage
Hello, thanks for your suggestion of a page on the National Council for the Humanities. I like the idea.

Hugh L. Foote
I'm just writing the Egremont article now, and came across Hugh L. Foote in the this book. He was very successful and went on to be state senator. Would be a good bio to write. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:41, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Huger Lee Foote?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:43, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I see the bio was written. Question...if you look at p. 39 here, the liniage seems to be: Hezekiah William Foote, father of Huger Lee Foote, father of UNKNOWN Foote, father of Shelby Foote.  Who was Shelby's father?  Magnolia677 (talk) 14:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It might be worth creating a redirect for Hugh... One of Huger Lee Foote's children. Apparently, his name was "Shelby Dade Foote", according to Shelby Foote's page; but they were no longer wealthy or powerful after Huger Lee Foote gambled away the family fortune and thus Shelby's father was simply a minor businessman as far as I can tell. I haven't found any info about Huger Lee Foote's wife or children, so I did not add a "personal life" subsection as I usually do.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:17, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Have a look at Egremont, Mississippi. Hopefully I got all my Foote's straight!  Magnolia677 (talk) 14:38, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Great. I wonder if there is enough to do a page about Wesley Bobo; there is this, this, this, this...Zigzig20s (talk) 16:17, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

National Council on the Humanities
Hi Zigzig20s! I am no longer an administrator here. However, one of the sysops listed here may be able to help you. Sorry I can't be of further assistance! -- Merope 14:59, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank You
Yes, this is the translated title. Thierry Caro (talk) 03:36, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Cargill
I've added a new section, Cargill_family, that should help our readers see who's who in the Cargill/MacMillan family. I'll try to start articles for John Hugh MacMillan and Whitney Duncan MacMillan later today. Edwardx (talk) 12:41, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK nominations
I've just been advised that "according to the new rules that went into effect as of November 21, all nominations, whether self-nominations or nominations of articles by others, require a QPQ review." Alas, this means that if I nominate your articles, I will have to a QPQ review for each nom. I'm okay with the idea of doing that for novice editors on their first DYK-worthy article. However, as I'm sure you'll appreciate, this will much increase my workload for other nominations, and I have limited time for Wikipedia at least until the end of the year. Please look at this list and consider doing your own noms. The first deadline is not for another two days yet. Edwardx (talk) 11:05, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Help with Reince Priebus
Hi Zigzig20s, I'm reaching out to you in the hopes you might be able to help take a look at a correction and some updates that I'm proposing for Reince Priebus's article. I noticed you'd been involved in a brief discussion on the article's Talk page this summer and since you have at least a passing interest in or knowledge of the page, figured you may be interested to help. The main corrections I'm looking for are to Priebus's name, which is given as "Reinhold Reince Priebus" but actually should be "Reinhold Richard Priebus" (Reince is a nickname), and also to clarify his parents' names and occupations. There's a few other changes I'm suggesting as well, to expand the details on his education and career.

In the interests of full disclosure: I'm working on behalf of the RNC and due to that financial conflict of interest I won't make any direct edits to the article. Instead, I've proposed the corrections and updates on the Talk page here. If you're able to review and make the changes as you feel are appropriate, I'd be very grateful. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk &middot; COI) 23:42, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Seeking collaboration
Hi Zigzig20s, I’m currently working on the page for David M. Cote and I’m seeking out guidance from experienced editors to collaborate with. I’ve disclosed my COI on the article talk page, but have yet to receive any responses there. When you have a quick moment, would you mind taking a look at the draft I have on my sandbox? I’d appreciate any feedback or suggestions you might have. Thanks! --FacultiesIntact (talk) 03:58, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Zigzig20s, I've looked into a "personal life" section for Cote, but haven't been able to find any suitable information. I was just wondering if aside from that you had any other suggestions for the article? I'm trying to garner a consensus on my draft before I submit an edit request. Thanks! --FacultiesIntact (talk) 21:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Brighton topics
Hello – hope all is well. You've probably noticed a period of activity from me again, after an extended period of not much happening. Unfortunately my time on WP is going to become very constrained again until well into 2015, I would estimate, as I am committed to certain research and writing projects off-Wiki, plus the preparation of material for publication – all of which will take up a lot of free time. Accordingly, although I've tried to get a few "quick wins" done this week on Brighton-related topics, I will struggle to fit in longer pieces of writing and research such as A.D. Wagner. Having said that, if I find any windows of opportunity, I will try to make a start. (I have to admit that I found writing a biographical article, i.e. Henry Michell Wagner, much more difficult and time-consuming than writing an article on e.g. a building.)

Separately, regarding Brighton and Hove articles in general, I am awaiting the publication of Volume 10 of the Victoria County History of Sussex (see here for more), which is likely to supersede much of the existing literature on "general" topics and provide useful background info for more specific topics. As far as I can tell, it has been "in the early stages of publication" for a little while now, so I don't know how far it is from completion. Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!)  13:58, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for William W. Cargill
 Harrias  talk 12:02, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Hullo!
Thanks for your thanks for my Monegasque missives. I do need to integrate more French sources, but am still flummoxed at how little quality references there are on the principality in general. I've also started work on biographies of notable Monequesges, Alexander Onassis has been up for GA for a while, and I have a few others floating round. I assume the Napoleonic museum closed, and have emailed Monaco's department of culture for a list of public artworks there, but have received no reply. Feel free to hit me with any ideas...Wedding of Rainier III, Prince of Monaco and Grace Kelly, List of people from Monaco modelled after the fearsome NW3 list? Au revoir! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 20:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Quite good, Quite academic Gareth E Kegg (talk) 00:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Global account
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Libraries
Hi – no, Mile Oak Lib has recently moved into new premises, and I haven't been up there since it opened. (Actually I haven't been to Mile Oak for about 5 years: time to go on a trip on the number 1 bus, maybe!!). I believe the new building is completely integrated into the Portslade Aldridge Community Academy school premises, but when I go I'll try to get a photo. Also I need a photo of the *new* Woodingdean library, which replaced the one in my picture about a year ago. Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!)  11:59, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year! Thx for your note about the Almshouses.  I've had a look for more info about the Percy sisters and also Margaret Marriot (all sources I've looked at give that spelling), but with no success.  Hanover Crescent is on my to-do list: I have plenty of material, so should be straightforward.  I have a few pics as well.  Will probably get some more pics of the Almshouses soon, although they are very difficult to photograph because of their position and the traffic on the Lewes Rd.  Regarding the Hanningtons clock photo: this is an interesting one ... it is very difficult to see, even from the street, and to get that pic I had to stand about 50m to the east outside the Royal Pavilion Tavern (approximately) and zoom right in.  I was going to provide you a link to Google Streetview, but you can't see it from there either.  These coordinates are set to the point on the roof where it is – as you can see, it is set a long way back from the roofline, hence the need to stand so far back along Castle Square: 50.82175°N, -0.1391°W  Also, if you have a look at this photo on Flickr (it's one of mine, taken on the same day) and zoom in a bit, you can see part of the decorative surround of the clock.  Look directly above the road sign above the head of the pedestrian second from the right, and just to the left of the Royal Bank of Scotland logo, and where the blue building joins the white building you can just see a curved section of wall with some white writing below it (faintly).  That shows where it is in a wider context.  Next time I'm out in town I'll take some more photos, including round the back in Market Street.   Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  18:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Zigzig20s!


Happy New Year! Zigzig20s, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Edwardx (talk) 21:04, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hélène Pastor
Please provide a source that says mdy is standard in Monaco (it isn't). Also, lame move reverting the rest of the edits, especially because the main thing she's famous for is the debacle with her son-in-law. Star Garnet (talk) 09:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No, this is not about "fame." This is about notability. Wikipedia is not a gossip magazine. She was notable in her own right, not because of her son...Zigzig20s (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I also intend to create those red links very soon, so please don't remove them. All those people are very notable. As for time, Monaco is not an English-speaking country, so it is irrelevant here how they write the date in French. It can be translated both ways into English. Your edits are not constructive, that's why they were reverted. If you want to help, feel free to start a page about her father or children (all of whom I am working on). Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Hélène Pastor for deletion == A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hélène Pastor is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Star Garnet (talk) 19:25, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Words fail me if you don't understand why a billionaire heiress and businesswoman is notable. Not only that, but she is part of Monaco's fact-based history that we are trying to cover on Wikipedia, beyond the luxury products that people hear about. One of the real significant players beyond the myth. Would you like to delete every page that explains the real history of Monaco?Zigzig20s (talk) 10:40, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Anders Holch Povlsen
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:08, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Emmanuel Church, West Hampstead
Hi – I've added a couple of links to the bottom of the article, which I/we can use for expansion. Hope to have some time over the next few days. Cheers, Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  17:12, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * In theory there should exist on Wikipedia a list of all listed buildings in each London borough (London Borough of Camden in this case). There was an exercise a couple of years ago to automatically create basic lists of listed buildings by district/borough/etc. which could then be updated and added to by editors.  However it doesn't appear to have included the London boroughs within its scope.  (Note that there are nearly 2,000 listed buildings in Camden, according to my search on the English Heritage website, so if/when "Listed buildings in Camden" is created it would need to be split up into multiple lists for size reasons, like I did with my unfinished Grade II listed buildings in B&H lists.)   Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  21:19, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Photos of Places in Beverly Hills
Great Idea! I'm in Beverly Hills often. I'll take photos of as many places on the wanted list, plus any others you'd like to add. Thanks.... Glenn Glenn Francis (talk) 10:34, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Excellent Idea about taking a photo of the Mayor, especially since she's available publicly for photos every Monday. I'll make it a point to attend one of the "Monday Morning Walks". Thanks.... -Glenn Glenn Francis (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Food Chains
Really, Eva Longoria is famous for being a Democratic fundraiser? Abigail Disney is just an heiress? OK, you rule! Rock on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.210.64.235 (talk) 16:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * In this context, I would say yes.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:15, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Citations? "Fundraiser" and "heiress" do not appear on their respective pages, nor in the reference provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.210.66.73 (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

God Nisanov
Thanks for adding the projects. If you want to add something to the article (and get a co-credit), I'm definitely going to do a DYK on him. Something like "DYK that God is Jewish?" Edwardx (talk) 11:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Tom Love
Great work on Idan Ofer by the way. Tom Love is yet another American "rags to riches" billionaire who started with just a single gas station. Except that when you really start digging, it turns out that his dad was head of a huge oil company. Anyway he dropped out of university twice, and that will make a good DYK hook. Edwardx (talk) 23:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Moïse Lévy de Benzion
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jean-Baptiste Pastor
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Gillian Johnston
I'd suggest turning Gillian Johnston into a disambiguation page (WP:TWODAB doesn't really apply here as there isn't a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. GiantSnowman 14:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * In this case, I would say no - there is no PRIMARYTOPIC. GiantSnowman 14:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation page now created. GiantSnowman 17:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * User:GiantSnowman: Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Polo
Yes! I think I created it when I was working on this article: International Polo Cup, based on photos from the Library of Congress. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Did you apply for one of the free JSTOR accounts?

Cecil Patteson Nickalls
User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Cecil Patteson Nickalls to Cecil Patteson Nickalls, you can use the move button to move the article to Wikipedia space. I am blocked from moving articles. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Lindon
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Theo Müller
Another one for DYK, if you'd like to contribute. The Interview in Der Spiegel is quite amusing. Edwardx (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Malcolm Orme Little
I think this is the correct guy who won the International Polo Cup in 1886, Malcolm Orme Little so I will make the new article about his son. The article on Malcolm Orme Little doesn't mention polo, what do you think? I will add the reference to his article but only if you agree they are the same person. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:20, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I added it, review it and see if I am correct. If not undo it. That would be one more name from the trophy list solved. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Good find on Richard Lawley, 4th Baron Wenlock! --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Achille Boitel
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Precious
  project assessment

Thank you for quality biographies such as Sigi Ziering, achieved in collaboration as in Achille Boitel, for project assessments, for the mantra "created referenced stub" and Sunshine on a Rainy Day, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

American Studies (journal)
The problem with this article is that it obviously does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NJournals. JSTOR is not a selective database in the sense of NJournals. A notability tag is justified, so that editors are aware that evidence of notability is needed. I haven't been able to find any, others perhaps can. Note that American Studies International was indexed in Scopus, but Scopus now lists it as inactive and doesn't index American Studies. That's unexpected and may actually indicate a problem with this journal. --Randykitty (talk) 14:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * User:Randykitty: I don't know what you want precisely. It's also on Project MUSE apparently. I have heard about the journal from reading the endnotes of countless academic books. Do you want a citation count? I am not sure where to find that.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The only reason I have not yet taken this to AfD is that I think it might be notable. But I cannot find any evidence for that. JSTOR and MUSE is fine, but it doesn't show notability. Have a look at NJournals to see what is needed. Meanwhile, I think it would be unfair compared to other journal articles if we didn't tag this for notability, as most journals with this problem are tagged for notability (not all, I guess, but if not, they should be). --Randykitty (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Randykitty: It seems obscurantist to tag widely read/cited academic journals for notability.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Who says it's widely read and cited? We have to go by reliable sources. As soon as those are found (either in the form of sources discussing the journal or in the form of inclusion in a really selective database), the tag can go. Until then, it should stay. --Randykitty (talk) 15:54, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Randykitty: Have a look in the footnotes of books from your local academic library. I am not sure how else to convince you. Meanwhile, television programs have uncontested Wikipedia pages...Zigzig20s (talk) 15:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That's original research... And, yes, you're right, WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS (how about all those permastubs on tons of obscure sportspeople), but that's not a reason to drop all our criteria. There's millions of articles here on WP, nobody can contest all that need contesting and so I will have to leave television programs to those people that are interested in editing those articles. --Randykitty (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Randykitty: Do you think contacting a library to ask them how we could prove it is a widely cited/significant journal would work? If you're based in the US, you could simply ask a librarian. They might know.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:14, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Librarians are generally not "WP-literate", I don't think that would be very helpful. However, I have edited literally thousands of journal articles (and quite some experience as editor, board member, etc) and have a pretty good idea where to find sources (see a collection of links on my user page, for example). --Randykitty (talk) 16:42, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Randykitty: Do you work for a competing publisher?Zigzig20s (talk) 16:44, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It is not my habit to give out personal information. Suffice to say that I have not even the slightest imaginable COI in this case. --Randykitty (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Randykitty: OK, that's what I was wondering. My suggestion re: librarians is that they may know of specific ways to show that this journal is notable. They may know the journal ranking for example?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have access to every journal ranking possible. This journal is not in any Thomson Reuters database (the major closed ranking service), nor in any open ranking that I can find. --Randykitty (talk) 19:02, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Randykitty: It's (delayed) open access. Is that the reason why it is not indexed? I assume that you have to pay to be indexed and they may have chosen not to do that. I note that with its predecessor it has been published since 1959. Surely the number of times it has been cited (there must be thousands one would think) would meet the criteria for general notability? Philafrenzy (talk) 15:04, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No, OA (whether completely, hybrid, or delayed) has no influence on indexing and only some fake indexing services (Universal Impact Factor, for example) charge any fees to be indexed. As for the citations, it's difficult to say how many there are. If you click the link to GScholar in the notability tag, you'll see several articles that are well cited. However, citation rates drop rapidly and several of the articles listed are from different journals with similar titles (such as American Quarterly). Searching for "American Studies" (i.e., without the disambiguator "journal") is too unspecific. This search gives one heavily cited article, and then rates drop steeply. One would indeed think that a journal that has been around for so long would be notable, but for the life of me, I cannot find any evidence for that. The fact that it is not even in Scopus, even though a predecessor journal was listed in that database, is troubling. --Randykitty (talk) 15:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Interview for The Signpost
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DYK for Robert René Meyer-Sée
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Francesca Hilton
Agreed. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I restored the article to the version before AFD. The article needs to be updated now, obviously. Quarl (talk) 14:11, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice job.Quarl (talk) 02:16, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Quarl: Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:17, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Ducros Plantation
I got 1860 from nris, but changed it to c. 1860 based on the document on the (now cited) Louisiana Office of Cultural Development Division of Historic Developments NRHP database. Generic1139 (talk) 22:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The link for the reference number takes you to the main NPS focus page where you can download the database that matches the reference number to the property name. The browser and advanced search buttons on the left can be used to get more data, and a search page.  That feature has been down for a few days.  It is a government site, hopefully they it will come back, otherwise the NRHP project will need to discuss what to do in its place.  A similar discussion has already started for the refnum link on the county lists.  In the mean time, you can search on this page: http://npsfocus.nps.gov/npsadvancedsearch.do?searchtype=npsadvanced, enter the refnum in the first search field.  In this particular case, though, the nomination form hasn't been digitized yet, but you will see some of the raw data.  The link I provided for the c. 1860 number is what was probably the source for the NRHP nomination. Generic1139 (talk) 22:42, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Limiting Labor
Hey Zigzig, I haven't gotten through all the MUSE applications yet, but while you wait: that particular article is freely available here. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 04:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Nikkimaria: Thank you! I didn't realise that. I'm sure Project MUSE will be useful for other articles.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:32, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

SAE incident
Thank you for your messages re the ongoing discussion about how to handle the SAE incident in Wikipedia. I realize it is a heated debate (one I do not wish to enter). My earlier edits concerned the David Boren article in WP. President Boren's decisive action has been widely covered in the media (with interviews on all 3 major TV networks and at least 3 cable stations; editorials have appeared in several newspapers). His role in adjudicating the incident on the campus he directs should at least be mentioned in his article.Mason.Jones (talk) 00:12, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Edward Ernest Green
Greetings Zigzig I'll see if I can find some obituary notices. History is only my subject in passing (as it relates to entomology. Cheers for now Notafly (talk) 19:38, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia email re Newspapers.com signup
HazelAB (talk) 19:51, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Dutch Burgher
Thanks for your note on my talk page and pointing to some interesting articles. I have initiated Dutch Burgher Union of Ceylon. I hope I have to do work more on this. -- Anton Talk  05:23, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Newspapers.com access
Hi Zigzig20s,

You should have full access to Newspapers.com now. HazelAB (talk) 16:41, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Martha Grundy Winder
There's a photo of Martha Grundy Winder. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:57, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Julian A. Chavez
I have never run across an image of Julian A. Chavez or his brother Mariano, but will certainly try to find one in future explorations. Thor Dockweiler (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for God Nisanov
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Sunday Times Rich List 2015
Out tomorrow! Edwardx (talk) 20:32, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Buildings in Beverly Hills
Hi, I got everything on the Pictures Wanted list except Trousdale Estates and the Mayor. Friars Club was Demolished and none of the 3 Bernini stores were on Rodeo Drive - they are all something else. I'll post the photos sometime next week. Glenn Francis (talk) 02:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

If you can find out where a Trousdale Estates sign is, I'll get a pic of it 162.72.22.252 (talk) 03:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Got Your Church and Trousdale 162.72.22.252 (talk) 06:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I've uploaded all the photos for your articles except Temple Emanuel. Thx. Glenn Francis (talk) 07:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll get the Peninsula Beverly Hills, Temple Emanuel, and the Mayor on Monday. Glenn Francis (talk) 13:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Temple Beth Am and Emanuel are uploaded. Didn't attend the Walk because it was raining. thx Glenn Francis (talk) 07:18, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Uploaded Beth Jacob, Peninsula, and 9454 Wilshire. I thought I had the Financial Center but I missed it. I'll get it next time. thx Glenn Francis (talk) 19:41, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Uploaded all photos from the Wanted list. Glenn Francis (talk) 20:23, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Lili didn't really like my pic of her, so she put up her Official Photo and asked me to remove mine, which I did. I didn't go on the Walk today, but I got some photos of Coldwater Canyon Park.Glenn Francis (talk) 17:17, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Do you know the address where the Mulholland Estates Sign is? Glenn Francis (talk) 00:27, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, I'll figure it all out. Glenn Francis (talk) 05:51, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Got everything but Fossil Ridge Park Glenn Francis (talk) 09:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Went on the Walk in BH. Lili knows this photo was for her Wikipedia page, she didn't know there wasn't a photo. Talked awhile with the BH Public Information Manager, Therese Kosterman. She knows about the BH page, but didn't know there were other pages about BH. She'll be glad to assist on anything I need in BH. Got lots of pics of the Walk. We all went into two new locations that opened up, Diptque and Spagatini Restaurant.

The last Walk will be March 23. New Mayor in a couple weeks. They'll have something but it'll be different.

Uploaded all new photos, including some Daytime photos of of 9454 Wilshire building, and the Wilshire Beverly Center. I forgot to take photos of Coldwater Canyon Park. Glenn Francis (talk) 11:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm thinking of going on the last Walk With the Mayor this Monday. New Mayor isn't having the Walk but might be doing something. Glenn Francis (talk) 05:43, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Coldwater Canyon Park Photos Uploaded Glenn Francis (talk) 07:29, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, please don't put mine up. I'll write to her PR Person and explain what happened. I was kind of surprised that they put up that photo without proper license. I'll explain thier options: that they can get a release from the Photographer, Have the Photographer post it, use mine, have me or someone take another photo, or no photo at all. What is the best link to send her which explains all this? thx Glenn Francis (talk) 03:01, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Lili's PR person said they own the photo and will get it approved by WikiCommons OTRS. She asked not to do anything to the page pending the approval. Also I put up a photo I once took of The Friars Club Logo. Glenn Francis (talk) 11:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Lili's PR person said Lili doesn't like my picture. Although I offered to take another, she said they were going to go through the process of getting her official one approved by OTRS. That's it as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to pursue it any more than that. Thx. Glenn Francis (talk) 05:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

OK on Mandeville Glenn Francis (talk) 19:34, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 14:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Stephen Minor article
Hi, Zigzig,

It appears that the third wife's birthplace and date of death have been inadvertently substituted for Stephen's. Both Find a Grave and the other source cited -- Order of First Families of Miss. -- show a Greene County birth and a death in November of 1815. &mdash; I've just edited those things accordingly.

Just found your post on my Talk page! Thanks; I came upon the Minors in a circuitous way. (I live in Louisiana & am also interested in S.W. Mississippi.) Floridasand (talk) 10:18, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

In reply to your latest message, I would research on line just as you would! [Where are you located?]

Floridasand (talk) 14:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Beth Am
The Beth Am I deleted was in Cleveland, while the AfDed one was yours. (Another was "childish nonsense, attack".) Looks possible to me - I've not checked the references, but at a quick glance they don't look like Facebook, YouTube and blogs. If it turns out not good, I can always restore it to your user space for a rework. Peridon (talk) 20:05, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That's just a reference to the number of 'articles' whose sources consist of those things - and which are consequently considered to be of no consequence... Peridon (talk) 08:08, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The draft looks fine to me. I would not object to it being recreated. Deb (talk) 15:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks marginal to me - the sixth source, from The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles is pretty much the only in-depth one. But it's probably enough to pass just barely. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:30, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Louis Auguste Say
Dear Zigzig20. Jolly sorry for having mistakenly created Louis Auguste Say as duplicate of Louis Say. I think a redirect page might be OK as there was not much added by any one else but I don't know much about this sort of procedure. If I come across something I can add I will try. Best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 08:09, 24 May 2015 (UTC))

Hilton
OK Glenn Francis (talk) 01:59, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Herman W. Hellman
Thank you for adding a picture to Herman W. Hellman. Feel free to create pages about his children if you can. Do keep me posted on my talkpage please. Thank you. Zigzig20s (talk) 03:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The main requirement for a biography on Wikipedia is notability. I don't know enough about any of them to make a decision about that. The best I could do is a search of the Los Angeles Times archives and see what comes up. I use Proquest through the Los Angeles Public Library and also the Access newspaper archive, also on LAPL. I occasionally write original articles but I find it less effort to add stuff to already existing ones if I find something that interests me. If I find a person who is extraordinarily interesting and they don't have an article, I will often start one but I'm not sure that any of Hellman's kids qualify. Mike Hayes (talk) 09:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi
Hope you are well. Issues off-Wiki mean I have had limited time so far this year, but I have made a start today in the hope that I will have a bit of time next month to get Arthur Wagner up and running. Can't make any promises at the moment, but I'll try my best! Cheers, Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  19:39, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Viscounts & Dukes of Uzės
I suspect it was simply because it was a red link I stumbled over that existed on the French Wikipedia and I had some time to waste on copying it over. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:51, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Charles Vallin
Appreciate your efforts in starting this page. We have to see much more details being included into this article. Hence it is better that the tag stays there --Jishith (talk) 11:56, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Good news
Nice, you could get the point. Have a nice day. --Egeymi (talk) 07:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Mandeville and Shulamit Gallery
Mandeville and Shulamit Gallery Uploaded. You'll have to provide me with the PRECISE location of Francesca's Marker within the cemetary. thx Glenn Francis (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Château de la Fauconnière
I see nothing wrong with creating two articles, if need be. Perhaps move Château de la Fauconnière to a disambiguation page. Wish I could be of more help, sorry. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent - I look forward to seeing what you find. Keep up the good work, and happy editing! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Mount Holly
Thanks for the message. They're not making those old homes anymore. Not sure how anyone could vandalize something like that. Mississippi is a special place. Very peaceful. Lots of history. Lovely, kind people. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 21:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Chateaux and Bastides
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner on your question. How do you define the difference between a chateau and a bas tide? Is it just size? The places I wrote about were more modest, and wouldn't really qualify as chateaux. I think you could either have a separate category for chateaux, or create a new category that includes both chateaux and bastides. Either way, I appreciate your work and am glad that you are doing good work on the architecture of the region. Is there a picture of chateau that you've written about?SiefkinDR (talk) 15:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Images
I am checking all the archives, Corbis, Getty, the Library of Congress, Eastman House, and even eBay, so far none found. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Chatham, Mississippi
Hi there. I found a bit on Chatham Plantation here:, , , ,.

As for uploading an image of John Patton Erwin, that's a tough one. I'm a pretty strict follower of copyright rules on the Commons, and everything in the US becomes public domain if it was published before 1923. The link to the image you sent me was a drawing. If it had been a photo, then for sure it would be PD, but because it is a drawing, I'm not sure when it was done. It could have been drawn for a book from the 1940s. I'm looking around for a date. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 22:46, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Holmby Park
I'm not sure... I havent figured it out yet WhisperToMe (talk) 09:24, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Shives, Arkansas
It certainly resembles a ghost town. I'm going to keep looking for more info. It was likely an old river port. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:29, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Alfred Montgomery Shook
Suggestion: Move User:Zigzig20s/Alfred Montgomery Shook to main space, or, if not notable, remove the red link in Col. A.M. Shook House. Or maybe just merge the bio info on Shook into the house article? That's what I'm leaning towards. Generic1139 (talk) 13:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Ashwood Hall
Here is the batch of images:


 * File:Ashwood Hall facade1.jpg
 * File:Ashwood Hall facade2.jpg
 * File:Ashwood Hall facade3.jpg
 * File:Ashwood Hall facade4.jpg

Regards,– Gilliam (talk) 04:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

New York Times citation template
I keep this on my user page, so I don't have to type in the parameters or search for the template. That way in the future, is we decide the date will go before the title of the article, or the other way around, we just have to change the master template page, not each entry. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Familysearch
Registration and use are free, it is the Mormon archive of genealogy. It gives you access to users trees and to amazing things like the WWI and WWII draft registration to find birth dates and missing middle names. The feature is Familytree, and as payback to the Mormons, I add in missing death dates I find in my research. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Francesca Hilton
Don't why you removed my credits for Francesca when there genuine credits that she's been in?? Cullen1987 (talk) 22:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cullen1987:To keep the chronological order: she starred in a movie, then became a photographer and philanthropy executive, then starred in more movies. Also because what you added were not actual movies, but documentaries. The page could do with a filmography table perhaps.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:28, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah a filmography would be good, but the credits I put up we're actual movies that she has appeared in, ' The Dion Brothers' was from 1974 and starred Stacey Keach, also 'Liz: The Elizabeth Taylor Story' was a movie from 1995 that starred Sherilynn Fenn as Elizabeth Taylor Cullen1987 (talk) 22:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cullen1987: Are they listed on IMDB? I could add them back if they are, but we need to keep the chronological order.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah there on imdb it also says she was in the movie 'Cleopatra Jones' as a shoplifter in 1973 and an episode of 'Cannon' called 'Trial by Terror' also from 1973 in which she played Carrie Cullen1987 (talk) 23:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cullen1987: These might be minor roles. I think a filmography table may be better. I will look at it tomorrow. The main thing is to keep the chronological order and not have red links for films which are likely to get deleted if the page is created. They certainly were not mentioned in her obituaries.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:11, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah they were minor roles, but so was her part in 'A Safe Place' she pretty much only in the opening scene of that movie, she was definitely in them I own them all on dvd as I'm a big fan of hers and spoke to her once before she sadly passed about her part in 'The Dion Brothers' you can double check on imdb if you want Cullen1987 (talk) 23:17, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cullen1987: Is it The Gravy Train? Shame you didn't take her picture. I wonder if there are any in the public domain.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:23, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cullen1987: OK, I added two as per IMDB. Not sure that the TV episode needs a mention.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:29, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

That's great thank you, yeah it's called 'The Gravy Train' also known as 'The Dion Brothers' that's the title I have it as on dvd... I no she was such a nice woman was so sad to here that she passed Cullen1987 (talk) 23:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Ashland, Mississippi
Hey ZigZig, over the past few years I've tried to create articles for all the lost Mississippi River towns in Mississippi (see here). I'm currently writing an article about Ashland, Mississippi, which I believe may be very near to Cypress Grove Plantation, which you have written about. Have a look at:
 * p. 181
 * here

I'll try to finish it this week and may include a link to it, or the map, on the Cypress Grove article. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Magnolia677: Great map! Which cities did you create specifically? We would need to find a reference locating Taylor's plantation in Ashland specifically.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Black Warrior Basin
Not a lot of good maps, but some. is already in the Commons. Also, this and this have public domain pics that can be captured. Have a look through and let me know if there's one that looks good. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC)